question for mets and yankees fans.

[neckdemon]

well, since both mets and yankees fans have a fondness for this player i thought it might make for a decent discussion without any rivalry induced animosity. so question is, do you think david cone gets consideration for the hall of fame?

[IM3]

Year Ag Tm  Lg  W   L   G   GS  CG SHO  GF SV   IP     H    R   ER   HR  BB   SO  HBP  WP  BFP  IBB  BK  ERA *lgERA *ERA+ WHIP
+--------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+------+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+-----+---+---+-----+-----+----+-----+
 1986 23 KCR AL   0   0  11   0   0   0   5  0   22.7   29   14   14   2   13   21   1   3   108   1   0  5.56  4.27   77 1.853
 1987 24 NYM NL   5   6  21  13   1   0   3  1   99.3   87   46   41  11   44   68   5   2   420   1   4  3.71  3.80  102 1.319
 1988 25 NYM NL  20   3  35  28   8   4   0  0  231.3  178   67   57  10   80  213   4  10   936   7  10  2.22  3.21  145 1.115
 1989 26 NYM NL  14   8  34  33   7   2   0  0  219.7  183   92   86  20   74  190   4  14   910   6   4  3.52  3.26   92 1.170
 1990 27 NYM NL  14  10  31  30   6   2   1  0  211.7  177   84   76  21   65  233   1  10   860   1   4  3.23  3.76  116 1.143
 1991 28 NYM NL  14  14  34  34   5   2   0  0  232.7  204   95   85  13   73  241   5  17   966   2   1  3.29  3.65  111 1.191
 1992 29 TOT     17  10  35  34   7   5   0  0  249.7  201   91   78  15  111  261  12  12  1055   7   1  2.81  3.61  128 1.250
         NYM NL  13   7  27  27   7   5   0  0  196.7  162   75   63  12   82  214   9   9   831   5   1  2.88  3.47  120 1.241
         TOR AL   4   3   8   7   0   0   0  0   53.0   39   16   15   3   29   47   3   3   224   2   0  2.55  4.11  161 1.283
 1993 30 KCR AL  11  14  34  34   6   1   0  0  254.0  205  102   94  20  114  191  10  14  1060   2   2  3.33  4.55  137 1.256
 1994 31 KCR AL  16   5  23  23   4   3   0  0  171.7  130   60   56  15   54  132   7   5   690   0   1  2.94  5.00  170 1.072
 1995 32 TOT AL  18   8  30  30   6   2   0  0  229.3  195   95   91  24   88  191   6  11   954   2   1  3.57  4.66  130 1.234
         TOR AL   9   6  17  17   5   2   0  0  130.3  113   53   49  12   41  102   5   6   537   2   1  3.38  4.72  140 1.182
         NYY AL   9   2  13  13   1   0   0  0   99.0   82   42   42  12   47   89   1   5   417   0   0  3.82  4.58  120 1.303
 1996 33 NYY AL   7   2  11  11   1   0   0  0   72.0   50   25   23   3   34   71   2   4   295   0   1  2.88  5.05  176 1.167
 1997 34 NYY AL  12   6  29  29   1   0   0  0  195.0  155   67   61  17   86  222   4  14   805   2   2  2.82  4.43  158 1.236
 1998 35 NYY AL  20   7  31  31   3   0   0  0  207.7  186   89   82  20   59  209  15   6   866   1   0  3.55  4.47  126 1.180
 1999 36 NYY AL  12   9  31  31   1   1   0  0  193.3  164   84   74  21   90  177  11   7   827   2   1  3.44  4.48  130 1.314
 2000 37 NYY AL   4  14  30  29   0   0   0  0  155.0  192  124  119  25   82  120   9  11   733   3   0  6.91  5.07   73 1.768
 2001 38 BOS AL   9   7  25  25   0   0   0  0  135.7  148   74   65  17   57  115  10   9   614   4   0  4.31  4.53  105 1.511
 2003 40 NYM NL   1   3   5   4   0   0   0  0   18.0   20   13   13   4   13   13   0   0    85   1   0  6.50  4.24   65 1.833
+--------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+------+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+-----+---+---+-----+-----+----+-----+
 17 Yr WL% .606 194 126 450 419  56  22   9  1 2898.7 2504 1222 1115 258 1137 2668 106 149 12184  42  32  3.46  4.16  120 1.256

He's gonna fall short.

[tooooon88]

money pitcher....great guy....no shot at HOF

[RMJK]

I say no also. He had some very good years but also had some bad ones. And his era is 3.4 lifetime.

[Bill Parcells]

no

[neckdemon]

yeah unfortunately i believe he falls short as well. such a shame cause he is one of my favorite players from back then. i don't think i can remember another player who had such amazing movement on his pitches.

[chesapeakejet]

If he hadn't of shown off "his cone" in the bullpen, maybe he'd have more serious consideration.

[neckdemon]

Originally Posted by chesapeakejet

If he hadn't of shown off "his cone" in the bullpen, maybe he'd have more serious consideration.

lol. did they ever prove that?

[K-Met57]

i think the HOF if the place you go to when you can say that for like 6,7 or 8 years you were the best of the second best at your position...cone has never done that....besides for a pitcher 194 wins isnt going to cut it. I would be curious to see if Tommy Glavine makes it on his first try...great pitcher...but never even the top pitcher on his team...john franco another guy..#1 in saves but prob wont make it. What do you guys think about those 2?

[C130guy]

not good enough for the hall of fame

[Elon]

Originally Posted by emslave

i think the HOF if the place you go to when you can say that for like 6,7 or 8 years you were the best of the second best at your position...cone has never done that....besides for a pitcher 194 wins isnt going to cut it. I would be curious to see if Tommy Glavine makes it on his first try...great pitcher...but never even the top pitcher on his team...john franco another guy..#1 in saves but prob wont make it. What do you guys think about those 2?

Glavine...yes
Cone......no
Franco...no

[neckdemon]

Originally Posted by emslave

i think the HOF if the place you go to when you can say that for like 6,7 or 8 years you were the best of the second best at your position...cone has never done that....besides for a pitcher 194 wins isnt going to cut it. I would be curious to see if Tommy Glavine makes it on his first try...great pitcher...but never even the top pitcher on his team...john franco another guy..#1 in saves but prob wont make it. What do you guys think about those 2?

i think glavine is a first ballot hall of famer. if he makes 300, which it looks like he probably will, then it's a definite no-brainer.

[JetBidi]

David Cone was a great pitcher and had some fantastic years for both the Mets and the Yankees. With this being said, he will not make the Hall Of Fame.