Webb Says McCain Is Impugning Patriotism of Iraq Debate Foes

Jetdawgg · 04-16-2007, 02:16 PM

[QUOTE]By Nicholas Johnston
April 13 (Bloomberg) -- Democratic Senator James Webb accused Republican John McCain of questioning the patriotism of those who disagree with him on Iraq and ``hiding behind the troops as political justification'' for a misguided policy.

``I think that John McCain has been impugning people's patriotism and I really regret that he is doing that,'' Webb, of Virginia, said on Bloomberg Television's ``Political Capital with Al Hunt,'' scheduled to air today. ``I'm very disappointed in him.''

McCain, in a speech before the Virginia Military Institute April 10, said passage of the spending measures was a victory for America's enemies. ``Democratic leaders smiled and cheered,'' he said. ``What were they celebrating? Defeat? Surrender? In Iraq, only our enemies were cheering.''

Webb and McCain, 70, are both decorated Vietnam War veterans who have sharply different views on Iraq.

In the television interview, Webb said McCain had approached him on the Senate floor and said lawmakers should avoid the type of personal attacks that occurred during congressional debates about the Vietnam War 30 years ago.

Since that conversation, Webb said McCain has been ``consistently'' attacking those who disagree with him about the war.

``I don't believe it is in anybody's interest for members of the Senate to be impugning the other side's patriotism or, by the way, hiding behind the troops as political justification for what we are doing,'' said Webb, a former U.S. Marine.

House and Senate

The House and Senate have approved almost $100 billion in emergency funding for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq that includes timelines for U.S. troops to leave Iraq by next year. President George W. Bush has said he would veto any spending legislation that restricts military deployments.

A McCain spokeswoman didn't immediately return a call seeking comment.

Webb, 61, said that Bush's decision to increase the number of troops in Baghdad hasn't made discernible progress in curbing violence in Iraq. He also said that extended deployment for U.S. forces, as long as 15 months in Iraq with only one year home between tours, is damaging the military.

``I do not think the strategy justifies what they are doing to the troops,'' he said.

Webb said a recent trip by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to Syria, which has been criticized by Bush, wasn't a mistake and that diplomatic efforts are required to bring peace to the region.

Webb said he hasn't spoken to Bush since the two discussed Iraq at a reception for new lawmakers last year. ``But I have been working with people in the administration and I have got a, I think, a very positive and cordial relationship with them.''

He particularly praised Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

To contact the reporter on this story: Nicholas Johnston in Washington at [email]njohnston3@bloomberg.net[/email] [/QUOTE]

Last Updated: April 13, 2007 16:01 EDT

[url]http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aTE7TSru46uo[/url]

Keeping McCain straight

Come Back to NY · 04-16-2007, 02:44 PM

typical leftist ignorance which is commonplace for dumbdawg....

speak out against the government= partiotism.....

speak out against those who question the government= questioning one's patriotism....

an old and tired theory.... :rolleyes:

Jetdawgg · 04-16-2007, 02:49 PM

[QUOTE=Come Back to NY]typical leftist ignorance which is commonplace for dumbdawg....

speak out against the government= partiotism.....

speak out against those who question the government= questioning one's patriotism....

an old and tired theory.... :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]``I do not think the strategy justifies what they are doing to the troops,'' he said. [/QUOTE]

Great strategy Mr. Bush....that is supporting our troops. If anything is unpatriotic it is the lack of strategy by this admin. Something that fewer and fewer Americans support. Hopefully you too can catch on

jets5ever · 04-16-2007, 03:10 PM

Thanks for this thread. Can you please make sure to start a new thread every time you read a story in which a Democrat criticizes a Republican? That would be awesome.

Warfish · 04-16-2007, 03:10 PM

[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]Hopefully you too can catch on[/QUOTE]

[SIZE=1][COLOR=Silver]The Whisper....is getting.....whisperier........[/COLOR][/SIZE]

Jetdawgg · 04-16-2007, 03:15 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish][SIZE=1][COLOR=Silver]The Whisper....is getting.....whisperier........[/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

How about you coming up with something original?

It is pitiful of you to mock me?

Jetdawgg · 04-16-2007, 03:16 PM

[QUOTE=jets5ever]Thanks for this thread. Can you please make sure to start a new thread every time you read a story in which a Democrat criticizes a Republican? That would be awesome.[/QUOTE]

How about you getting some guts and becoming a [B]Marine[/B]?

When that happens (pfffft) then I will consider

Warfish · 04-16-2007, 03:18 PM

[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]It is pitiful of you to mock me?[/QUOTE]

You are entitled to that opinion.

Of course, many here find the things you post and the opinions you express, the silly threats you make, your repeated use of the word "Marine" to excuse and/or promote your positions, and of course the reasonable questions you dodge (and dodge, and dodge, and dodge....) to be the REAL "pitiful" thing on this forum.

Now, can we PLEASE get back to the all important whisper? Thanks. :yes:

JetFanTransplant · 04-16-2007, 03:25 PM

[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]How about you getting some guts and becoming a [B]Marine[/B]?

When that happens (pfffft) then I will consider[/QUOTE]

How about acting like a marine and not an axxhole. I NEVER met a Marine that touts himself like you do. Hardly a trait that is admirable.

And don't give me crap about enlisting... My grandfather, my father, my uncles, my brother and my cousins have served or is serving in damn near every US conflict since WWI so I DONT HAVE TO.

JetsFan2012 · 04-16-2007, 03:25 PM

[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]How about you getting some guts and becoming a [B]Marine[/B]?

When that happens (pfffft) then I will consider[/QUOTE]

hoo-rah!

Jetdawgg · 04-16-2007, 03:26 PM

Again, I would much rather be called 'Marine' than dumb, lib-tard, etc.

You will never call yourself anything as great as 'Marine'. Just keep crying....

JetsFan2012 · 04-16-2007, 03:26 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish][SIZE=1][COLOR=Silver]The Whisper....is getting.....whisperier........[/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

hahaha, whisperier

JetsFan2012 · 04-16-2007, 03:27 PM

[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]Again, I would much rather be called 'Marine' than dumb, lib-tard, etc.

You will never call yourself anything as great as 'Marine'. Just keep crying....[/QUOTE]

Hopefully one day I can call myself a father and role model. That's 1000x better than just a Marine, IMO.

JetFanTransplant · 04-16-2007, 03:28 PM

[QUOTE=pauliec]hahaha, whisperier[/QUOTE]
What?

[IMG]http://www.directhearing.co.uk/Concha.png[/IMG]

04-16-2007, 02:16 PM	#1
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	Webb Says McCain Is Impugning Patriotism of Iraq Debate Foes [QUOTE]By Nicholas Johnston April 13 (Bloomberg) -- Democratic Senator James Webb accused Republican John McCain of questioning the patriotism of those who disagree with him on Iraq and ``hiding behind the troops as political justification'' for a misguided policy. ``I think that John McCain has been impugning people's patriotism and I really regret that he is doing that,'' Webb, of Virginia, said on Bloomberg Television's ``Political Capital with Al Hunt,'' scheduled to air today. ``I'm very disappointed in him.'' McCain, in a speech before the Virginia Military Institute April 10, said passage of the spending measures was a victory for America's enemies. ``Democratic leaders smiled and cheered,'' he said. ``What were they celebrating? Defeat? Surrender? In Iraq, only our enemies were cheering.'' Webb and McCain, 70, are both decorated Vietnam War veterans who have sharply different views on Iraq. In the television interview, Webb said McCain had approached him on the Senate floor and said lawmakers should avoid the type of personal attacks that occurred during congressional debates about the Vietnam War 30 years ago. Since that conversation, Webb said McCain has been ``consistently'' attacking those who disagree with him about the war. ``I don't believe it is in anybody's interest for members of the Senate to be impugning the other side's patriotism or, by the way, hiding behind the troops as political justification for what we are doing,'' said Webb, a former U.S. Marine. House and Senate The House and Senate have approved almost $100 billion in emergency funding for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq that includes timelines for U.S. troops to leave Iraq by next year. President George W. Bush has said he would veto any spending legislation that restricts military deployments. A McCain spokeswoman didn't immediately return a call seeking comment. Webb, 61, said that Bush's decision to increase the number of troops in Baghdad hasn't made discernible progress in curbing violence in Iraq. He also said that extended deployment for U.S. forces, as long as 15 months in Iraq with only one year home between tours, is damaging the military. ``I do not think the strategy justifies what they are doing to the troops,'' he said. Webb said a recent trip by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to Syria, which has been criticized by Bush, wasn't a mistake and that diplomatic efforts are required to bring peace to the region. Webb said he hasn't spoken to Bush since the two discussed Iraq at a reception for new lawmakers last year. ``But I have been working with people in the administration and I have got a, I think, a very positive and cordial relationship with them.'' He particularly praised Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. To contact the reporter on this story: Nicholas Johnston in Washington at [email]njohnston3@bloomberg.net[/email] [/QUOTE] Last Updated: April 13, 2007 16:01 EDT [url]http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aTE7TSru46uo[/url] Keeping McCain straight

04-16-2007, 02:44 PM	#2
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	typical leftist ignorance which is commonplace for dumbdawg.... speak out against the government= partiotism..... speak out against those who question the government= questioning one's patriotism.... an old and tired theory.... :rolleyes:

04-16-2007, 02:49 PM	#3
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	[QUOTE=Come Back to NY]typical leftist ignorance which is commonplace for dumbdawg.... speak out against the government= partiotism..... speak out against those who question the government= questioning one's patriotism.... an old and tired theory.... :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]``I do not think the strategy justifies what they are doing to the troops,'' he said. [/QUOTE] Great strategy Mr. Bush....that is supporting our troops. If anything is unpatriotic it is the lack of strategy by this admin. Something that fewer and fewer Americans support. Hopefully you too can catch on

04-16-2007, 03:10 PM	#4
jets5ever Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 11,692	Thanks for this thread. Can you please make sure to start a new thread every time you read a story in which a Democrat criticizes a Republican? That would be awesome.

04-16-2007, 03:10 PM	#5
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]Hopefully you too can catch on[/QUOTE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=Silver]The Whisper....is getting.....whisperier........[/COLOR][/SIZE]

04-16-2007, 03:15 PM	#6
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	[QUOTE=Warfish][SIZE=1][COLOR=Silver]The Whisper....is getting.....whisperier........[/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE] How about you coming up with something original? It is pitiful of you to mock me?

04-16-2007, 03:16 PM	#7
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	[QUOTE=jets5ever]Thanks for this thread. Can you please make sure to start a new thread every time you read a story in which a Democrat criticizes a Republican? That would be awesome.[/QUOTE] How about you getting some guts and becoming a [B]Marine[/B]? When that happens (pfffft) then I will consider

04-16-2007, 03:18 PM	#8
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]It is pitiful of you to mock me?[/QUOTE] You are entitled to that opinion. Of course, many here find the things you post and the opinions you express, the silly threats you make, your repeated use of the word "Marine" to excuse and/or promote your positions, and of course the reasonable questions you dodge (and dodge, and dodge, and dodge....) to be the REAL "pitiful" thing on this forum. Now, can we PLEASE get back to the all important whisper? Thanks. :yes:

04-16-2007, 03:25 PM	#9
JetFanTransplant Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: On some beach... somewhere... Posts: 3,735	[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]How about you getting some guts and becoming a [B]Marine[/B]? When that happens (pfffft) then I will consider[/QUOTE] How about acting like a marine and not an axxhole. I NEVER met a Marine that touts himself like you do. Hardly a trait that is admirable. And don't give me crap about enlisting... My grandfather, my father, my uncles, my brother and my cousins have served or is serving in damn near every US conflict since WWI so I DONT HAVE TO.

04-16-2007, 03:25 PM	#10
JetsFan2012 Waterboy Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 0	[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]How about you getting some guts and becoming a [B]Marine[/B]? When that happens (pfffft) then I will consider[/QUOTE] hoo-rah!

04-16-2007, 03:26 PM	#11
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	Again, I would much rather be called 'Marine' than dumb, lib-tard, etc. You will never call yourself anything as great as 'Marine'. Just keep crying....

04-16-2007, 03:27 PM	#13
JetsFan2012 Waterboy Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 0	[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]Again, I would much rather be called 'Marine' than dumb, lib-tard, etc. You will never call yourself anything as great as 'Marine'. Just keep crying....[/QUOTE] Hopefully one day I can call myself a father and role model. That's 1000x better than just a Marine, IMO.

04-16-2007, 03:28 PM	#14
JetFanTransplant Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: On some beach... somewhere... Posts: 3,735	[QUOTE=pauliec]hahaha, whisperier[/QUOTE] What? [IMG]http://www.directhearing.co.uk/Concha.png[/IMG]