Al Qaida Suspects Sue Boeing, With ACLU's Help

DeanPatsFan · 06-03-2007, 08:14 AM

[url]http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2007/ss_terror_06_01.asp[/url]

[quote]Friday, June 1, 2007 New Look for WorldTribune.com. Why?

Al Qaida suspects sue Boeing, with ACLU's help
WASHINGTON — Boeing has been sued by suspected Al Qaida operatives transported by the CIA to Arab countries for interrogation and torture.

The American Civil Liberties Union has filed a federal lawsuit against Boeing subsidiary Jeppesen Dataplan on behalf of three Al Qaida suspects transported by the CIA under the so-called "extraordinary rendition program."

The suit charged that Jeppesen helped the CIA transport the three plaintiffs to secret locations in Egypt and Morocco, where the company knew they would undergo torture, Middle East Newsline reported.

"American corporations should not be profiting from a CIA rendition program that is unlawful and contrary to core American values," ACLU executive director Anthony Romero said. "Corporations that choose to participate in such activity can and should be held legally accountable."

The plaintiffs named in the suit in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California, were Binyam Mohamed, Abou Elkassim Britel and Ahmed Agiza. Britel and Mohamed were said to have been flown by the CIA to Morocco. Agiza was taken to Egypt.

The suit said Jeppesen, based in San Jose, Calif., has been a key provider of flight and logistical support services for CIA aircraft in the rendition program. Since December 2001, the suit said, Jeppesen provided flight and logistical support to at least 15 CIA aircraft that conducted 70 rendition flights.

Jeppesen was said to have provided aircraft crew and flight planning services for the CIA program. The subsidiary also ensured customs clearance and security for CIA aircraft and crew.

"Jeppesen's services have been crucial to the functioning of the government's extraordinary rendition program," ACLU staff attorney Steven Watt said. "Without the participation of companies like Jeppesen, the program could not have gotten off the ground."

The suit was filed under the Alien Tort Statute, which permits aliens to bring claims in the United States for alleged violations that involve American citizens or assets. The statute accounts for torture.

In 2002, Mohamed, an Ethiopian national, was transported to Morocco, where he spent 18 months in prison in what the suit asserted included torture by the intelligence services of the North African kingdom. In 2004, he was taken by the CIA to a secret U.S. detention facility in Kabul, Afghanistan, and then to the U.S. Naval Station at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where he remains.

Britel was flown from Pakistan to Morocco in 2002. He was said to have remained in Morocco. Agiza was taken from Sweden to Egypt and remains in detention.

"For the first five weeks after his arrival in Egypt, Mr. Agiza was detained incommunicado," the suit said. "During his time and for some 10 weeks thereafter, he was repeatedly and severely tortured and denied meaningful access to consular officials, family members and lawyers."[/quote]

Liberals LOVE America......

HDCentStOhio · 06-03-2007, 08:38 AM

[QUOTE=DeanPatsFan][url]http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2007/ss_terror_06_01.asp[/url]

Liberals LOVE America......[/QUOTE]
Got to love the ACLU. Doing their best to defend terrorists, racists and child molestors.
Keep in mind that Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a Clinton appointee, is now on the Supreme Court. Confirmed 96-3, despite refusing to answer questions about her personal views on various issues. If only Chuckie Schmukie Schumer treated Alito and Roberts the same way the Republicans treated Ginsburg.

Warfish · 06-03-2007, 10:39 AM

You know, the ACLU just kills me.

They kill me because I SUPPORT The ideal and concept of what they do, defending the Civil Liberties and Rights of American Citizens as a part of keeping our Government honest and fair. There is no way anyone of any intellect or political stripe could be against THAT.

But......(and it's always the "But" thats kills ya)......

They have taken that honorable goal/purpose, and twisted it to an unimaginable extreme. They no longer work to defend Americans and their Rights. They no longer even seem to work to just defend our existing and historical rights. They have become, IMO, militant....working to exapnd rights beyond both their historical, and logical, limits. They work to support non-Americans, and seem to not care what is good for America (the Nation who gives them all their rights in the first place), but instead have the same kind of (to me) utopian and unrealistic "Universal Fairness" ideal that we Americans owe the rest of teh world the same rights we have, without any of the work or sacrifice Americans served in the past to get. It is this idea more than any other that seperates me from today's Liberals. While I love the concepts of Universal Fairness, or even Socialism/Communism (who doesn;t want a society where everyone has plenty and all are happy and equal, right?) but I am realistic enough to know that these ideas don't work in the real world.

Ah, I oculd go on all day long on this, but eh. I think the ACLU is needed......if only they would go back to their original purpose instead of continuing this horrid path they'd gone down.

CanadaSteve · 06-03-2007, 01:15 PM

One of the main reasons I would not consider living in the United States (no offence guys) can be summed up in four letters:

[SIZE=7]A. C . L . U. [/SIZE]

Come Back to NY · 06-03-2007, 01:29 PM

why call themselves the "American" C.L.U.????....none of these camel jockey's were American's

JetsFan2012 · 06-03-2007, 02:10 PM

[QUOTE=CanadaSteve]One of the main reasons I would not consider living in the United States (no offence guys) can be summed up in four letters:

[SIZE=7]A. C . L . U. [/SIZE][/QUOTE]

None taken, I don't blame you.

06-03-2007, 03:22 PM

founded by commies/atheists and other assorted fruits and nuts
no group with "American" in its name has done
more to destroy America

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JetFanTransplant · 06-03-2007, 07:20 PM

[QUOTE=Come Back to NY]why call themselves the "American" C.L.U.????....none of these camel jockey's were American's[/QUOTE]

Trying to catch A CLU.

HDCentStOhio · 06-03-2007, 08:13 PM

No one coming to the defense of the ACLU?
The lawsuit itself seems frivolous to me. Just clogging up the court system to try to make a political point, although there is no point to be had.

06-03-2007, 08:14 AM	#1
DeanPatsFan Lib Free Or Die..... All Pro Annoying Chowd Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,166	Al Qaida Suspects Sue Boeing, With ACLU's Help [url]http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2007/ss_terror_06_01.asp[/url] [quote]Friday, June 1, 2007 New Look for WorldTribune.com. Why? Al Qaida suspects sue Boeing, with ACLU's help WASHINGTON — Boeing has been sued by suspected Al Qaida operatives transported by the CIA to Arab countries for interrogation and torture. The American Civil Liberties Union has filed a federal lawsuit against Boeing subsidiary Jeppesen Dataplan on behalf of three Al Qaida suspects transported by the CIA under the so-called "extraordinary rendition program." The suit charged that Jeppesen helped the CIA transport the three plaintiffs to secret locations in Egypt and Morocco, where the company knew they would undergo torture, Middle East Newsline reported. "American corporations should not be profiting from a CIA rendition program that is unlawful and contrary to core American values," ACLU executive director Anthony Romero said. "Corporations that choose to participate in such activity can and should be held legally accountable." The plaintiffs named in the suit in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California, were Binyam Mohamed, Abou Elkassim Britel and Ahmed Agiza. Britel and Mohamed were said to have been flown by the CIA to Morocco. Agiza was taken to Egypt. The suit said Jeppesen, based in San Jose, Calif., has been a key provider of flight and logistical support services for CIA aircraft in the rendition program. Since December 2001, the suit said, Jeppesen provided flight and logistical support to at least 15 CIA aircraft that conducted 70 rendition flights. Jeppesen was said to have provided aircraft crew and flight planning services for the CIA program. The subsidiary also ensured customs clearance and security for CIA aircraft and crew. "Jeppesen's services have been crucial to the functioning of the government's extraordinary rendition program," ACLU staff attorney Steven Watt said. "Without the participation of companies like Jeppesen, the program could not have gotten off the ground." The suit was filed under the Alien Tort Statute, which permits aliens to bring claims in the United States for alleged violations that involve American citizens or assets. The statute accounts for torture. In 2002, Mohamed, an Ethiopian national, was transported to Morocco, where he spent 18 months in prison in what the suit asserted included torture by the intelligence services of the North African kingdom. In 2004, he was taken by the CIA to a secret U.S. detention facility in Kabul, Afghanistan, and then to the U.S. Naval Station at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where he remains. Britel was flown from Pakistan to Morocco in 2002. He was said to have remained in Morocco. Agiza was taken from Sweden to Egypt and remains in detention. "For the first five weeks after his arrival in Egypt, Mr. Agiza was detained incommunicado," the suit said. "During his time and for some 10 weeks thereafter, he was repeatedly and severely tortured and denied meaningful access to consular officials, family members and lawyers."[/quote] Liberals LOVE America......

06-03-2007, 08:38 AM	#2
HDCentStOhio longing for the days of Ronald Reagan Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Long Island & Section 337 Posts: 4,859	[QUOTE=DeanPatsFan][url]http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2007/ss_terror_06_01.asp[/url] Liberals LOVE America......[/QUOTE] Got to love the ACLU. Doing their best to defend terrorists, racists and child molestors. Keep in mind that Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a Clinton appointee, is now on the Supreme Court. Confirmed 96-3, despite refusing to answer questions about her personal views on various issues. If only Chuckie Schmukie Schumer treated Alito and Roberts the same way the Republicans treated Ginsburg.

06-03-2007, 10:39 AM	#3
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	You know, the ACLU just kills me. They kill me because I SUPPORT The ideal and concept of what they do, defending the Civil Liberties and Rights of American Citizens as a part of keeping our Government honest and fair. There is no way anyone of any intellect or political stripe could be against THAT. But......(and it's always the "But" thats kills ya)...... They have taken that honorable goal/purpose, and twisted it to an unimaginable extreme. They no longer work to defend Americans and their Rights. They no longer even seem to work to just defend our existing and historical rights. They have become, IMO, militant....working to exapnd rights beyond both their historical, and logical, limits. They work to support non-Americans, and seem to not care what is good for America (the Nation who gives them all their rights in the first place), but instead have the same kind of (to me) utopian and unrealistic "Universal Fairness" ideal that we Americans owe the rest of teh world the same rights we have, without any of the work or sacrifice Americans served in the past to get. It is this idea more than any other that seperates me from today's Liberals. While I love the concepts of Universal Fairness, or even Socialism/Communism (who doesn;t want a society where everyone has plenty and all are happy and equal, right?) but I am realistic enough to know that these ideas don't work in the real world. Ah, I oculd go on all day long on this, but eh. I think the ACLU is needed......if only they would go back to their original purpose instead of continuing this horrid path they'd gone down.

06-03-2007, 01:15 PM	#4
CanadaSteve Liked the draft picks....meat and potatoes. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 6,524	One of the main reasons I would not consider living in the United States (no offence guys) can be summed up in four letters: [SIZE=7]A. C . L . U. [/SIZE]

06-03-2007, 01:29 PM	#5
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	why call themselves the "American" C.L.U.????....none of these camel jockey's were American's

06-03-2007, 02:10 PM	#6
JetsFan2012 Waterboy Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 0	[QUOTE=CanadaSteve]One of the main reasons I would not consider living in the United States (no offence guys) can be summed up in four letters: [SIZE=7]A. C . L . U. [/SIZE][/QUOTE] None taken, I don't blame you.

06-03-2007, 03:22 PM	#7
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06-03-2007, 07:20 PM	#8
JetFanTransplant Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: On some beach... somewhere... Posts: 3,735	[QUOTE=Come Back to NY]why call themselves the "American" C.L.U.????....none of these camel jockey's were American's[/QUOTE] Trying to catch A CLU.

06-03-2007, 08:13 PM	#9
HDCentStOhio longing for the days of Ronald Reagan Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Long Island & Section 337 Posts: 4,859	No one coming to the defense of the ACLU? The lawsuit itself seems frivolous to me. Just clogging up the court system to try to make a political point, although there is no point to be had.