1986 (question for Yankee-Jet fans) - Page 3

LSJF · 01-23-2008, 10:38 AM

yankee fan...will be rooting for big blue! rooted for mets in '86

JetsFanatic · 01-23-2008, 07:00 PM

[QUOTE=Sean Ryan;2330236][B]You are not a good Yankee fan, no matter what the situation is... if you are rooting for the Red Sox. No ifs or buts.[/B]

If I was alive I would of been on the Mets bandwagon without a question.[/QUOTE]

Ridiculous statement. Trust me, I was there.

chirorob · 01-23-2008, 07:13 PM

[QUOTE=newjakecity;2330206]I know some people on this board hate the Giants. Although I root against the Giants so the Jets can be the better team and not be upstaged (and not to mention I am aching with jealousy this week ;) ), I personally don't hate the Giants. Most of the Giant fans I know respect that I'm a Jet fan and vice versa. However, reading this board, I know there are plenty of people who know douchebag Giant fans as well. And of course we've all experienced the Pats* fans on this board (diehard and front runner alike).

I was trying to think of a parallel to this Giant-Patriot super bowl. And then I wondered how it must have been for Yankee fans back in 1986 when the Mets and Bastan (mispelled on purpose ;) ) were in the world series (I was only 7 and lived in Virginia at this time).

Which team did you find yourself rooting for that year, the other New York team or Boston? Did you find yourself rooting more or less intensly that year or this year?[/QUOTE]

It was the worst. I had a much stronger hatred for Mets fans than I do now. I actually wanted Boston to win, although now I'm glad they didn't.

What made it worse was the Yanks were good that year, finished second to Boston. And the Jets started 10-1 before falling to 10-6. Then they lost in Clevland in what was a horrible game.

In retorspect, I'm glad the Jets lost, because no way they beat the Giants, and that would have been unbearable.

Tyler Durden · 01-23-2008, 07:15 PM

[QUOTE=JetsFanatic;2331999]Ridiculous statement. Trust me, I was there.[/QUOTE]

It's not my fault you are weak. Mets fans hurt your feelings? Awww. Good Yankee fans [B][U]never[/U][/B] root for the Red Sox, ever.

chirorob · 01-23-2008, 07:16 PM

[QUOTE=kennyo7;2330266]No you would not. If you were alive, you would realize that the arrogance of the Mets fans in 1986 was so bad you would root against them no matter what. The Mets owned NY baseball in the late 1980s. It was torture for a Yankees fan. You dont understand that b/c you were fortunate to be a Yankee fan at a time when the Yanks won everyyear and where the Mets are second class citizens. It was tough being a Yankees fan in those years of Andy Hawkins, Dave LaPoint and Tim Leary[/QUOTE]

That was how I felt at the time. The Red Sox rivalry was not nearly what it is now. To be honest, I didnt' really hate the Sox until they beat us in the playoffs. I actually disliked Toronto more at the time.

But the Mets were so arrogant. And their fans were so arrogant. Really, considering the talent on that team, they should have one more than just 1 ring.

chirorob · 01-23-2008, 07:17 PM

[QUOTE=Sean Ryan;2332022]It's not my fault you are weak. Mets fans hurt your feelings? Awww. Good Yankee fans [B][U]never[/U][/B] root for the Red Sox, ever.[/QUOTE]

Dude, I like you, but you weren't there. The Red Sox vs. Yanks rivalry was not what it was today. And the Mets fans were just so damn hateable. Just like they say we Yankee fans are now.

Tyler Durden · 01-23-2008, 07:19 PM

[QUOTE=chirorob;2332026]Dude, I like you, but you weren't there. The Red Sox vs. Yanks rivalry was not what it was today. And the Mets fans were just so damn hateable. Just like they say we Yankee fans are now.[/QUOTE]

It didn't matter to other Yankee fans in this very thread who where there at the time, they where strong enough not to root for the Red Sox! Good for them.

CTM · 01-23-2008, 07:24 PM

[QUOTE=Sean Ryan;2332028]It didn't matter to other Yankee fans in this very thread who where there at the time, they where strong enough not to root for the Red Sox! Good for them.[/QUOTE]

You were just twinkle in daddies eye when this was all going on no?

Wtf do you know?

Boston was more of a joke then a rival before the Yanks collapse in 2004 to any Yankee fan that I know..

And yes, we did the Boston Sucks chant in the Bronx back then, but we really meant it then :D

chirorob · 01-23-2008, 07:26 PM

[QUOTE=Sean Ryan;2332028]It didn't matter to other Yankee fans in this very thread who where there at the time, they where strong enough not to root for the Red Sox! Good for them.[/QUOTE]

Good for them. I think with the Mets it was more personable. You didn't chat with people online, it was just the people you knew. I didn't know 1 Red Sox fan. But I knew and saw everyday 30+ Mets fans. Had to listen to them talk everyday.

I think half the rivalry isn't hatred of a team, but of its fans. And I didn't have any Red Sox fans to hate, but there were plenty of Mets fans.

CTM · 01-23-2008, 07:28 PM

[QUOTE=chirorob;2332034]Good for them. I think with the Mets it was more personable. You didn't chat with people online, it was just the people you knew. I didn't know 1 Red Sox fan. But I knew and saw everyday 30+ Mets fans. Had to listen to them talk everyday.

I think half the rivalry isn't hatred of a team, but of its fans. And I didn't have any Red Sox fans to hate, but there were plenty of Mets fans.[/QUOTE]

Great point. Something that is lost on the kiddies, I think. The internet has really changed everything...

Tyler Durden · 01-23-2008, 07:30 PM

[QUOTE=CTM;2332033]You were just twinkle in daddies eye when this was all going on no?

Wtf do you know?

Boston was more of a joke then a rival before the Yanks collapse in 2004 to any Yankee fan that I know..

And yes, we did the Boston Sucks chant in the Bronx back then, but we really meant it then :D[/QUOTE]

I know I don't let Mets fans, or even Red Sox fans under my skin. The Red Sox are our rival, have been before any of us where born, have been before the Mets where a twinkle in Mr. Shea's eyes, and that is a fact.

Rooting against the Mets vs the Orioles in '69 is one thing, rooting for them against the Red Sox in '86 is a different story.

Buzzsaw · 01-23-2008, 07:34 PM

[QUOTE=kennyo7;2330254]I rooted for the Red Sox. I hated the 1986 Mets. The team was easy to hate. They were arrogant and full of A-holes. As much as i hated to see Boston win the series, i couldnt bear to see those jerks from flushing win it all[/QUOTE]

I'm not a Mets fan (Dodgers) but I sure loved watching those Met teams back when I was a kid. I was 11 or 12 when they won the '86 series. Doc and Straw were two of my favorite non-Dodger players. Those young guys were so talented.

CTM · 01-23-2008, 07:37 PM

[QUOTE=Sean Ryan;2332040]I know I don't let Mets fans, or even Red Sox fans under my skin. The Red Sox are our rival, have been before any of us where born, have been before the Mets where a twinkle in Mr. Shea's eyes, and that is a fact.[/QUOTE]
Again, at that point it had been nearly 70 years since they last won a WS. The Yanks on the other hand had won more then 20 in that same 70 year period. The Red Sox were a punchline, not a rival

Tyler Durden · 01-23-2008, 07:38 PM

[QUOTE=CTM;2332048]Again, at that point it had been nearly 70 years since they last won a WS. The Yanks on the other hand had won more then 20 in that same 70 year period. The Red Sox were a punchline, not a rival[/QUOTE]

Yet they where in the World Series. Come one... I wish I was there for this...

Almost as good as the Yankees winning it.

[IMG]http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/041025/041025_buckner_hmed_12p.hmedium.jpg[/IMG]

Jets Things · 01-23-2008, 07:40 PM

I'm a Yankee fan, but this was a GREAT book about the '86 Mets.
[IMG]http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0060507322.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg[/IMG]

CTM · 01-23-2008, 07:40 PM

[QUOTE=Sean Ryan;2332051]Yet they where in the World Series. Come one... I wish I was there for this...

[IMG]http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/041025/041025_buckner_hmed_12p.hmedium.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

I saw it live (on TV)

Hey, who do you consider the Jets biggest rival?

Tyler Durden · 01-23-2008, 07:41 PM

[QUOTE=CTM;2332054]I saw it live (on TV)

Hey, who do you consider the Jets biggest rival?[/QUOTE]

Dolphins, but you can't compare that to Yankees/Red Sox.

RutgersJetFan · 01-23-2008, 07:53 PM

[QUOTE=CTM;2332054]I saw it live (on TV)
[/QUOTE]

No way!

Snell · 01-23-2008, 08:15 PM

I am a Jets/Yankee fan and have been since I was a kid. I rooted for the Mets that year, no way I would root for Boston ever. It's the same scenario now with the Giants Pats.

CTM · 01-23-2008, 08:18 PM

[QUOTE=RutgersJetFan;2332066]No way![/QUOTE]

Way!

01-23-2008, 07:30 PM	#51
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	[QUOTE=CTM;2332033]You were just twinkle in daddies eye when this was all going on no? Wtf do you know? Boston was more of a joke then a rival before the Yanks collapse in 2004 to any Yankee fan that I know.. And yes, we did the Boston Sucks chant in the Bronx back then, but we really meant it then :D[/QUOTE] I know I don't let Mets fans, or even Red Sox fans under my skin. The Red Sox are our rival, have been before any of us where born, have been before the Mets where a twinkle in Mr. Shea's eyes, and that is a fact. Rooting against the Mets vs the Orioles in '69 is one thing, rooting for them against the Red Sox in '86 is a different story. Last edited by Tyler Durden; 01-23-2008 at 07:35 PM.

01-23-2008, 07:38 PM	#54
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	[QUOTE=CTM;2332048]Again, at that point it had been nearly 70 years since they last won a WS. The Yanks on the other hand had won more then 20 in that same 70 year period. The Red Sox were a punchline, not a rival[/QUOTE] Yet they where in the World Series. Come one... I wish I was there for this... Almost as good as the Yankees winning it. [IMG]http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/041025/041025_buckner_hmed_12p.hmedium.jpg[/IMG] Last edited by Tyler Durden; 01-23-2008 at 07:40 PM.

01-23-2008, 10:38 AM	#41
LSJF Brother, Where You Been? Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 1,385	yankee fan...will be rooting for big blue! rooted for mets in '86

01-23-2008, 07:00 PM	#42
JetsFanatic When you listen to the fans, you sit with the fans! Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,930	[QUOTE=Sean Ryan;2330236][B]You are not a good Yankee fan, no matter what the situation is... if you are rooting for the Red Sox. No ifs or buts.[/B] If I was alive I would of been on the Mets bandwagon without a question.[/QUOTE] Ridiculous statement. Trust me, I was there.

01-23-2008, 07:13 PM	#43
chirorob Draft the best available player. All Pro Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In transit Posts: 5,801	[QUOTE=newjakecity;2330206]I know some people on this board hate the Giants. Although I root against the Giants so the Jets can be the better team and not be upstaged (and not to mention I am aching with jealousy this week ;) ), I personally don't hate the Giants. Most of the Giant fans I know respect that I'm a Jet fan and vice versa. However, reading this board, I know there are plenty of people who know douchebag Giant fans as well. And of course we've all experienced the Pats* fans on this board (diehard and front runner alike). I was trying to think of a parallel to this Giant-Patriot super bowl. And then I wondered how it must have been for Yankee fans back in 1986 when the Mets and Bastan (mispelled on purpose ;) ) were in the world series (I was only 7 and lived in Virginia at this time). Which team did you find yourself rooting for that year, the other New York team or Boston? Did you find yourself rooting more or less intensly that year or this year?[/QUOTE] It was the worst. I had a much stronger hatred for Mets fans than I do now. I actually wanted Boston to win, although now I'm glad they didn't. What made it worse was the Yanks were good that year, finished second to Boston. And the Jets started 10-1 before falling to 10-6. Then they lost in Clevland in what was a horrible game. In retorspect, I'm glad the Jets lost, because no way they beat the Giants, and that would have been unbearable.

01-23-2008, 07:15 PM	#44
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	[QUOTE=JetsFanatic;2331999]Ridiculous statement. Trust me, I was there.[/QUOTE] It's not my fault you are weak. Mets fans hurt your feelings? Awww. Good Yankee fans [B][U]never[/U][/B] root for the Red Sox, ever.

01-23-2008, 07:16 PM	#45
chirorob Draft the best available player. All Pro Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In transit Posts: 5,801	[QUOTE=kennyo7;2330266]No you would not. If you were alive, you would realize that the arrogance of the Mets fans in 1986 was so bad you would root against them no matter what. The Mets owned NY baseball in the late 1980s. It was torture for a Yankees fan. You dont understand that b/c you were fortunate to be a Yankee fan at a time when the Yanks won everyyear and where the Mets are second class citizens. It was tough being a Yankees fan in those years of Andy Hawkins, Dave LaPoint and Tim Leary[/QUOTE] That was how I felt at the time. The Red Sox rivalry was not nearly what it is now. To be honest, I didnt' really hate the Sox until they beat us in the playoffs. I actually disliked Toronto more at the time. But the Mets were so arrogant. And their fans were so arrogant. Really, considering the talent on that team, they should have one more than just 1 ring.

01-23-2008, 07:17 PM	#46
chirorob Draft the best available player. All Pro Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In transit Posts: 5,801	[QUOTE=Sean Ryan;2332022]It's not my fault you are weak. Mets fans hurt your feelings? Awww. Good Yankee fans [B][U]never[/U][/B] root for the Red Sox, ever.[/QUOTE] Dude, I like you, but you weren't there. The Red Sox vs. Yanks rivalry was not what it was today. And the Mets fans were just so damn hateable. Just like they say we Yankee fans are now.

01-23-2008, 07:19 PM	#47
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	[QUOTE=chirorob;2332026]Dude, I like you, but you weren't there. The Red Sox vs. Yanks rivalry was not what it was today. And the Mets fans were just so damn hateable. Just like they say we Yankee fans are now.[/QUOTE] It didn't matter to other Yankee fans in this very thread who where there at the time, they where strong enough not to root for the Red Sox! Good for them.

01-23-2008, 07:24 PM	#48
CTM Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Not bababooey and I resent the implication Posts: 21,029	[QUOTE=Sean Ryan;2332028]It didn't matter to other Yankee fans in this very thread who where there at the time, they where strong enough not to root for the Red Sox! Good for them.[/QUOTE] You were just twinkle in daddies eye when this was all going on no? Wtf do you know? Boston was more of a joke then a rival before the Yanks collapse in 2004 to any Yankee fan that I know.. And yes, we did the Boston Sucks chant in the Bronx back then, but we really meant it then :D

01-23-2008, 07:26 PM	#49
chirorob Draft the best available player. All Pro Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In transit Posts: 5,801	[QUOTE=Sean Ryan;2332028]It didn't matter to other Yankee fans in this very thread who where there at the time, they where strong enough not to root for the Red Sox! Good for them.[/QUOTE] Good for them. I think with the Mets it was more personable. You didn't chat with people online, it was just the people you knew. I didn't know 1 Red Sox fan. But I knew and saw everyday 30+ Mets fans. Had to listen to them talk everyday. I think half the rivalry isn't hatred of a team, but of its fans. And I didn't have any Red Sox fans to hate, but there were plenty of Mets fans.

01-23-2008, 07:28 PM	#50
CTM Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Not bababooey and I resent the implication Posts: 21,029	[QUOTE=chirorob;2332034]Good for them. I think with the Mets it was more personable. You didn't chat with people online, it was just the people you knew. I didn't know 1 Red Sox fan. But I knew and saw everyday 30+ Mets fans. Had to listen to them talk everyday. I think half the rivalry isn't hatred of a team, but of its fans. And I didn't have any Red Sox fans to hate, but there were plenty of Mets fans.[/QUOTE] Great point. Something that is lost on the kiddies, I think. The internet has really changed everything...

01-23-2008, 07:34 PM	#52
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26,293	[QUOTE=kennyo7;2330254]I rooted for the Red Sox. I hated the 1986 Mets. The team was easy to hate. They were arrogant and full of A-holes. As much as i hated to see Boston win the series, i couldnt bear to see those jerks from flushing win it all[/QUOTE] I'm not a Mets fan (Dodgers) but I sure loved watching those Met teams back when I was a kid. I was 11 or 12 when they won the '86 series. Doc and Straw were two of my favorite non-Dodger players. Those young guys were so talented.

01-23-2008, 07:37 PM	#53
CTM Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Not bababooey and I resent the implication Posts: 21,029	[QUOTE=Sean Ryan;2332040]I know I don't let Mets fans, or even Red Sox fans under my skin. The Red Sox are our rival, have been before any of us where born, have been before the Mets where a twinkle in Mr. Shea's eyes, and that is a fact.[/QUOTE] Again, at that point it had been nearly 70 years since they last won a WS. The Yanks on the other hand had won more then 20 in that same 70 year period. The Red Sox were a punchline, not a rival

01-23-2008, 07:40 PM	#55
Jets Things All Pro Join Date: May 2003 Location: 742 Evergreen Terrace Posts: 9,405	I'm a Yankee fan, but this was a GREAT book about the '86 Mets. [IMG]http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0060507322.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg[/IMG]

01-23-2008, 07:41 PM	#57
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	[QUOTE=CTM;2332054]I saw it live (on TV) Hey, who do you consider the Jets biggest rival?[/QUOTE] Dolphins, but you can't compare that to Yankees/Red Sox.

01-23-2008, 07:53 PM	#58
RutgersJetFan Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 29,953	[QUOTE=CTM;2332054]I saw it live (on TV) [/QUOTE] No way!

01-23-2008, 08:15 PM	#59
Snell Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 419	I am a Jets/Yankee fan and have been since I was a kid. I rooted for the Mets that year, no way I would root for Boston ever. It's the same scenario now with the Giants Pats.

01-23-2008, 08:18 PM	#60
CTM Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Not bababooey and I resent the implication Posts: 21,029	[QUOTE=RutgersJetFan;2332066]No way![/QUOTE] Way!