TRADE ? ? ? : COLES to JAX ? ? ? - Page 5

Ray Ray19 · 02-23-2008, 04:36 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2383450]Two years ago Cotchery was a friggn' rookie and [B][U]NOT[/U][/B] a #1 WR.

Over the past two seasons, he has demonstrated he has the toughness, abilities and skills to assume the #1 WR position.

The Jets are crazy if they "hang on" to Coles and limit Cotchery's development.[/QUOTE]

Wow, just dumb.

Ruby2 · 02-23-2008, 04:54 PM

I love Jericho as much as the next guy, but he will never be a number 1 receiver. Look at the Redskins game from last year for example. Without LC opposite him, Cotch was not nearly as productive.

WoodyPaige · 02-23-2008, 04:55 PM

[quote=Ruby2;2383900]I love Jericho as much as the next guy, but he will never be a number 1 receiver. Look at the Redskins game from last year for example. Without LC opposite him, Cotch was not nearly as productive.[/quote]
He also had no help at all from the other receivers.

Ruby2 · 02-23-2008, 04:57 PM

[QUOTE=WoodyPaige;2383901]He also had no help at all from the other receivers.[/QUOTE]

Also true, but still, in an ideal situation JC is your #2 guy.

Buzzsaw · 02-23-2008, 04:58 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2383303]"Used to be" a playmaker.

Coles skills have greatly diminished[/QUOTE]

12 months ago he was invited to the probowl. Players like Rod Smith, Tim Brown, Jerry Rice and Keenan McKardell played at a high level into their late 30's.

Trading Coles does not make the Jets a better team, it would be a huge loss.

Buzzsaw · 02-23-2008, 05:01 PM

[QUOTE=copernicus;2383430]He wants big money and is threatening to sit out or pull a "Pete Kendall."

He's been hurt and is over 30.

The smart move would be to trade him and continue the rebuilding.........[/QUOTE]

What "rebuilding"? Fans say this but the actions of the team don't support it. We just traded for Thomas Jones less than a year ago. "Rebuilding teams" don't make moves like that. How about Kimo two years ago? Right or wrong, the FO wants to win now.

Buzzsaw · 02-23-2008, 05:03 PM

[QUOTE=bman;2383322]I hate when fans just want to pile up picks! Picks mean nothing. The draft is a crap shoot. You hope that 4 or 5 guys from the draft even make the team. If they are trading coles for a pick, they better be bringing in Chad Johnson. Coles when healthy will give you 80 catches, 900 yards, 8 td's and he'll play hurt...Can you guarantee that production from a rookie....I doubt it.[/QUOTE]

Thank you. Good to know there's a few fans here that have some knowledge of the game :yes:

Buzzsaw · 02-23-2008, 05:04 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2383332]Exactly. There is no reason not to believe Cotchery can assume the #1 WR position.

Finding a reliable #2 should not be that difficult.

But what the Jets really need, is an effective slot receiver. Brad Smith is not the answer there.[/QUOTE]

How'd the receiving corp look without Coles in the lineup last season? You know nothing about the Jets.

Woody56 · 02-23-2008, 05:08 PM

[QUOTE=Ruby2;2383900]I love Jericho as much as the next guy, but he will never be a number 1 receiver. Look at the Redskins game from last year for example. Without LC opposite him, Cotch was not nearly as productive.[/QUOTE]

5 catches for 90 yards is a good game. Coles also missed the TEN game and Cotch caught 8 for 152

BrooklynBound · 02-23-2008, 05:45 PM

Are the Jets winning the Super Bowl with Coles on the team next year? Obviously not.

We are re-building and Coles does not fit into the long-term plans. Therefore, you deal him for picks.

Ruby2 · 02-23-2008, 06:04 PM

[QUOTE=Woody56;2383930]5 catches for 90 yards is a good game. Coles also missed the TEN game and Cotch caught 8 for 152[/QUOTE]

He also droped a crucial 4th quarter pass against Washington, which was what i was reffering to.

Buzzsaw · 02-23-2008, 06:06 PM

[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2383966]Are the Jets winning the Super Bowl with Coles on the team next year? Obviously not.

We are re-building and Coles does not fit into the long-term plans. Therefore, you deal him for picks.[/QUOTE]

We're rebuilding? We're three offseasons into the M & T era dude. If you're 100% certain on what the teams plans are than I guess I haven't been paying attention because nothing this team does makes sense right now. If we're rebuilding Coles should have been traded a long time ago along with half the other players on the roster.

BrooklynBound · 02-23-2008, 06:08 PM

[QUOTE=Buzzsaw;2383996]We're rebuilding? We're three offseasons into the M & T era dude. If you're 100% certain on what the teams plans are than I guess I haven't been paying attention because nothing this team does makes sense right now. If we're rebuilding Coles should have been traded a long time ago along with half the other players on the roster.[/QUOTE]

OK, I think we should re-build.

JETS_for_life · 02-23-2008, 06:10 PM

[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2383998]OK, I think we should re-build.[/QUOTE]

If we don't get 10 wins minimum this season, I'd include management in the rebuild, scrap the whole thing.

Xmarco · 02-23-2008, 06:19 PM

[QUOTE=JETS_for_life;2384001]If we don't get 10 wins minimum this season, I'd include management in the rebuild, scrap the whole thing.[/QUOTE]

If we get 10 wins this year Mangini goes back to Mangenious unless your counting pre-season too

thebigragu · 02-23-2008, 06:24 PM

[QUOTE=Buzzsaw;2383918]How'd the receiving corp look without Coles in the lineup last season? You know nothing about the Jets.[/QUOTE]

Insane people want to trade coles for picks. Insane 2006 jets mvp. Zero respect

[url]http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/multimedia/192-2006-team-awards-most-valuable-player-laveranues-coles[/url]

BrooklynBound · 02-23-2008, 06:32 PM

[QUOTE=thebigragu;2384008]Insane people want to trade coles for picks. Insane 2006 jets mvp. Zero respect

[url]http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/multimedia/192-2006-team-awards-most-valuable-player-laveranues-coles[/url][/QUOTE]

Only bigots want to keep Coles.

thebigragu · 02-23-2008, 06:35 PM

[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2384017]Only bigots want to keep Coles.[/QUOTE]

Like I said get you're helmet on get on you're horse and start you're crusade , You left wing radical nutjob.

BrooklynBound · 02-23-2008, 06:37 PM

[QUOTE=thebigragu;2384020]Like I said get you're helmet on get on you're horse and start you're crusade , You left wing radical nutjob.[/QUOTE]

Since when am I a left winger?

"you're helmet?" Your a bigot.

thebigragu · 02-23-2008, 06:43 PM

[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2384026]Since when am I a left winger?

"you're helmet?" Your a bigot.[/QUOTE]

And you're a bleeding heart liberal and a waste of space. I wonder if anyone has ever taken you seriously except mom and dad you certifiable lunatic.

02-23-2008, 05:03 PM	#87
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26,340	[QUOTE=bman;2383322]I hate when fans just want to pile up picks! Picks mean nothing. The draft is a crap shoot. You hope that 4 or 5 guys from the draft even make the team. If they are trading coles for a pick, they better be bringing in Chad Johnson. Coles when healthy will give you 80 catches, 900 yards, 8 td's and he'll play hurt...Can you guarantee that production from a rookie....I doubt it.[/QUOTE] Thank you. Good to know there's a few fans here that have some knowledge of the game :yes: Last edited by Buzzsaw; 02-23-2008 at 05:10 PM.

02-23-2008, 04:36 PM	#81
Ray Ray19 Not a SOJF Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 13,956	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2383450]Two years ago Cotchery was a friggn' rookie and [B][U]NOT[/U][/B] a #1 WR. Over the past two seasons, he has demonstrated he has the toughness, abilities and skills to assume the #1 WR position. The Jets are crazy if they "hang on" to Coles and limit Cotchery's development.[/QUOTE] Wow, just dumb.

02-23-2008, 04:54 PM	#82
Ruby2 Patron and Grapefruit Juice Bitchess!!! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jerseystrong Posts: 17,094	I love Jericho as much as the next guy, but he will never be a number 1 receiver. Look at the Redskins game from last year for example. Without LC opposite him, Cotch was not nearly as productive.

02-23-2008, 04:55 PM	#83
WoodyPaige All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 7,167	[quote=Ruby2;2383900]I love Jericho as much as the next guy, but he will never be a number 1 receiver. Look at the Redskins game from last year for example. Without LC opposite him, Cotch was not nearly as productive.[/quote] He also had no help at all from the other receivers.

02-23-2008, 04:57 PM	#84
Ruby2 Patron and Grapefruit Juice Bitchess!!! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jerseystrong Posts: 17,094	[QUOTE=WoodyPaige;2383901]He also had no help at all from the other receivers.[/QUOTE] Also true, but still, in an ideal situation JC is your #2 guy.

02-23-2008, 04:58 PM	#85
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26,340	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2383303]"Used to be" a playmaker. Coles skills have greatly diminished[/QUOTE] 12 months ago he was invited to the probowl. Players like Rod Smith, Tim Brown, Jerry Rice and Keenan McKardell played at a high level into their late 30's. Trading Coles does not make the Jets a better team, it would be a huge loss.

02-23-2008, 05:01 PM	#86
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26,340	[QUOTE=copernicus;2383430]He wants big money and is threatening to sit out or pull a "Pete Kendall." He's been hurt and is over 30. The smart move would be to trade him and continue the rebuilding.........[/QUOTE] What "rebuilding"? Fans say this but the actions of the team don't support it. We just traded for Thomas Jones less than a year ago. "Rebuilding teams" don't make moves like that. How about Kimo two years ago? Right or wrong, the FO wants to win now.

02-23-2008, 05:04 PM	#88
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26,340	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2383332]Exactly. There is no reason not to believe Cotchery can assume the #1 WR position. Finding a reliable #2 should not be that difficult. But what the Jets really need, is an effective slot receiver. Brad Smith is not the answer there.[/QUOTE] How'd the receiving corp look without Coles in the lineup last season? You know nothing about the Jets.

02-23-2008, 05:08 PM	#89
Woody56 Purifying myself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka All League Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island Posts: 3,076	[QUOTE=Ruby2;2383900]I love Jericho as much as the next guy, but he will never be a number 1 receiver. Look at the Redskins game from last year for example. Without LC opposite him, Cotch was not nearly as productive.[/QUOTE] 5 catches for 90 yards is a good game. Coles also missed the TEN game and Cotch caught 8 for 152

02-23-2008, 05:45 PM	#90
BrooklynBound Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,550	Are the Jets winning the Super Bowl with Coles on the team next year? Obviously not. We are re-building and Coles does not fit into the long-term plans. Therefore, you deal him for picks.

02-23-2008, 06:04 PM	#91
Ruby2 Patron and Grapefruit Juice Bitchess!!! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jerseystrong Posts: 17,094	[QUOTE=Woody56;2383930]5 catches for 90 yards is a good game. Coles also missed the TEN game and Cotch caught 8 for 152[/QUOTE] He also droped a crucial 4th quarter pass against Washington, which was what i was reffering to.

02-23-2008, 06:06 PM	#92
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26,340	[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2383966]Are the Jets winning the Super Bowl with Coles on the team next year? Obviously not. We are re-building and Coles does not fit into the long-term plans. Therefore, you deal him for picks.[/QUOTE] We're rebuilding? We're three offseasons into the M & T era dude. If you're 100% certain on what the teams plans are than I guess I haven't been paying attention because nothing this team does makes sense right now. If we're rebuilding Coles should have been traded a long time ago along with half the other players on the roster.

02-23-2008, 06:08 PM	#93
BrooklynBound Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,550	[QUOTE=Buzzsaw;2383996]We're rebuilding? We're three offseasons into the M & T era dude. If you're 100% certain on what the teams plans are than I guess I haven't been paying attention because nothing this team does makes sense right now. If we're rebuilding Coles should have been traded a long time ago along with half the other players on the roster.[/QUOTE] OK, I think we should re-build.

02-23-2008, 06:10 PM	#94
JETS_for_life Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,091	[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2383998]OK, I think we should re-build.[/QUOTE] If we don't get 10 wins minimum this season, I'd include management in the rebuild, scrap the whole thing.

02-23-2008, 06:19 PM	#95
Xmarco '13 Mission statement:Blow this whole Effin Program up Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,732	[QUOTE=JETS_for_life;2384001]If we don't get 10 wins minimum this season, I'd include management in the rebuild, scrap the whole thing.[/QUOTE] If we get 10 wins this year Mangini goes back to Mangenious unless your counting pre-season too

02-23-2008, 06:24 PM	#96
thebigragu Downright Brilliant All Pro Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Staten Island Posts: 7,870	[QUOTE=Buzzsaw;2383918]How'd the receiving corp look without Coles in the lineup last season? You know nothing about the Jets.[/QUOTE] Insane people want to trade coles for picks. Insane 2006 jets mvp. Zero respect [url]http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/multimedia/192-2006-team-awards-most-valuable-player-laveranues-coles[/url]

02-23-2008, 06:32 PM	#97
BrooklynBound Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,550	[QUOTE=thebigragu;2384008]Insane people want to trade coles for picks. Insane 2006 jets mvp. Zero respect [url]http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/multimedia/192-2006-team-awards-most-valuable-player-laveranues-coles[/url][/QUOTE] Only bigots want to keep Coles.

02-23-2008, 06:35 PM	#98
thebigragu Downright Brilliant All Pro Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Staten Island Posts: 7,870	[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2384017]Only bigots want to keep Coles.[/QUOTE] Like I said get you're helmet on get on you're horse and start you're crusade , You left wing radical nutjob.

02-23-2008, 06:37 PM	#99
BrooklynBound Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,550	[QUOTE=thebigragu;2384020]Like I said get you're helmet on get on you're horse and start you're crusade , You left wing radical nutjob.[/QUOTE] Since when am I a left winger? "you're helmet?" Your a bigot.

02-23-2008, 06:43 PM	#100
thebigragu Downright Brilliant All Pro Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Staten Island Posts: 7,870	[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2384026]Since when am I a left winger? "you're helmet?" Your a bigot.[/QUOTE] And you're a bleeding heart liberal and a waste of space. I wonder if anyone has ever taken you seriously except mom and dad you certifiable lunatic.