The Mike and The Mad Dog "Joba needs to be a reliever" stupidity is in full swing

Tyler Durden · 03-05-2008, 06:21 PM

God these two are lost.

Tony Danza · 03-05-2008, 06:27 PM

Got to love Sweeney shooting back at Mad dog and mimicking him. God these clowns just love digging holes. Mike is such a know it all fool

Mike: So your saying Jobba was supposed as good or better prospect than Hughes? What were they saying two years ago?

Sweeney: He wasn't drafted yet.

Mike:..........

Tyler Durden · 03-05-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Danza

Got to love Sweeney shooting back at Mad dog and mimicking him. God these clowns just love digging holes. Mike is such a know it all fool

Mike: So your saying Jobba was supposed to be a better prospect than Hughes? What were they saying two years ago?

Sweeney: He wasn't drafted yet.

Mike:..........

LOL... I was screaming that at my radio!

Tyler Durden · 03-05-2008, 06:32 PM

If you think Joba should be used as only a reliever, to take over for Mariano one day, that's fine... I disagree, but whatever...

But these two idiots think it's moronic to put Joba back in a starters role, something he's been his whole baseball life. These two clowns have never seen Joba start, but they are soo damn sure they know better than the Yankee organization and scouts around baseball what they have in Joba.

An ace pitcher is more valuable than a 8th inning/closer.

Tyler Durden · 03-05-2008, 06:34 PM

Also according to Mike, the Yankees are using him as a starter because they didn't get Santana.

mudcat21 · 03-05-2008, 06:52 PM

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An ace pitcher is more valuable than a 8th inning/closer

Who said he is an ace starter? Was he ever an ace starter even in college or the minors? You guys kill me with the ratings.

Chrisrud · 03-05-2008, 06:59 PM

It is impossible to listen to the two of them. They are arrogant as it gets.

DevsJetsYanks88 · 03-05-2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mudcat21

Who said he is an ace starter? Was he ever an ace starter even in college or the minors? You guys kill me with the ratings.

9-2 with a 2.45 era and 135 SO in 88 innings last year in the minors seems pretty good to me. What would you prefer POTENTIAL ace starter?

Chrisrud · 03-05-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mudcat21

Who said he is an ace starter? Was he ever an ace starter even in college or the minors? You guys kill me with the ratings.

He was the driving force behind Nebraska's College World Series appearance a few years back and pretty much dominated every level he faced as a starter last season.

Tony Danza · 03-05-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mudcat21

Who said he is an ace starter? Was he ever an ace starter even in college or the minors? You guys kill me with the ratings.

He was a starter. Whether or not he was an ace is questionable. That fact is he pitched very well last year and they would be crazy NOT to try him as a starter.

A dominant starter > dominant reliever

DevsJetsYanks88 · 03-05-2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrisrud

It is impossible to listen to the two of them. They are arrogant as it gets.

Is it just me or have they gotten more ignorant and unbearable to listen to over the past year or two? I used to be able to handle listening to them without getting pissed off.

Chrisrud · 03-05-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DevsJetsYanks88

Is it just me or have they gotten more ignorant and unbearable to listen to over the past year or two? I used to be able to handle listening to them without getting pissed off.

Yea they are brutal. They act as if nobody else can make a point besides them. Francessa acts as if he is an insider. He is no insider. Whenever he says a little birdie told him something he gets it right from the newspaper. He is a joke.

Tyler Durden · 03-05-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mudcat21

Who said he is an ace starter? Was he ever an ace starter even in college or the minors? You guys kill me with the ratings.

What do you think is more valuable?

An ace pitcher is Joba's ceiling.. He has the potential to be a #1 pitcher. These ratings are from from scouts, the Yankee organization, as well as other organizations, BA, BP, you know.. people who do it for a living. I understand they aren't always right, but it is all we have to go by.

Chrisrud · 03-05-2008, 07:17 PM

I think for this season Joba is more valuable in an 8th inning role. I have never seen him start at the big league level. I know what he can do as a reliever and he is pretty damn dominant.

But then again I sure would want him for 200+ innings instead of 70

IM3 · 03-05-2008, 07:21 PM

Mike and the Mad Dog are the best in the buisness. Don't hate.

Chrisrud · 03-05-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ikeyman3

Mike and the Mad Dog are the best in the buisness. Don't hate.

I agree. But their arrogance is sometimes too much to take. Basically they were telling Sweeney not to be the Yankees' lackey, but be theirs.

Tyler Durden · 03-05-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrisrud

I think for this season Joba is more valuable in an 8th inning role. I have never seen him start at the big league level. I know what he can do as a reliever and he is pretty damn dominant.

But then again I sure would want him for 200+ innings instead of 70

I agree that for this season Joba is more suited for the bullpen, but sometimes you need sacrifice for the big picture. I don't think we should be playing with Joba, if you want him to start, than start him...

Tyler Durden · 03-05-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrisrud

I agree. But their arrogance is sometimes too much to take. Basically they were telling Sweeney not to be the Yankees' lackey, but be theirs.

Boomer and Carton are way better. Both Mets fans. Carton HATES the Yankees but at least he is funny, and not stupid like those two.

I'm Hank ya seee.

IM3 · 03-05-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrisrud

I agree. But their arrogance is sometimes too much to take. Basically they were telling Sweeney not to be the Yankees' lackey, but be theirs.

Their show is great, they treat Sweeney and their producers/screeners like ****.

DevsJetsYanks88 · 03-05-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ikeyman3

Mike and the Mad Dog are the best in the buisness. Don't hate.

About a year ago I would agree. I just really have a hard time listening to them now a days. I'd prefer to listen to listen to a guy like Brandon Tierney.

03-05-2008, 06:32 PM	#4
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	If you think Joba should be used as only a reliever, to take over for Mariano one day, that's fine... I disagree, but whatever... But these two idiots think it's moronic to put Joba back in a starters role, something he's been his whole baseball life. These two clowns have never seen Joba start, but they are soo damn sure they know better than the Yankee organization and scouts around baseball what they have in Joba. An ace pitcher is more valuable than a 8th inning/closer. Last edited by Tyler Durden; 03-05-2008 at 06:37 PM.

03-05-2008, 06:34 PM	#5
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	Also according to Mike, the Yankees are using him as a starter because they didn't get Santana. Last edited by Tyler Durden; 03-05-2008 at 06:40 PM.

03-05-2008, 06:21 PM	#1
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	The Mike and The Mad Dog "Joba needs to be a reliever" stupidity is in full swing God these two are lost.

03-05-2008, 06:27 PM	#2
Tony Danza All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,696	Got to love Sweeney shooting back at Mad dog and mimicking him. God these clowns just love digging holes. Mike is such a know it all fool Mike: So your saying Jobba was supposed as good or better prospect than Hughes? What were they saying two years ago? Sweeney: He wasn't drafted yet. Mike:..........

03-05-2008, 06:59 PM	#7
Chrisrud Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,279	It is impossible to listen to the two of them. They are arrogant as it gets.

03-05-2008, 07:17 PM	#14
Chrisrud Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,279	I think for this season Joba is more valuable in an 8th inning role. I have never seen him start at the big league level. I know what he can do as a reliever and he is pretty damn dominant. But then again I sure would want him for 200+ innings instead of 70

03-05-2008, 07:21 PM	#15
IM3 SMH Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 22,491	Mike and the Mad Dog are the best in the buisness. Don't hate.