I think McCain (and the GOP) will lose in a landslide to Obama in the fall

angry jets fan · 04-07-2008, 02:27 PM

unfortunately ...

If anybody thought Bob Dole ran a poor campaign, you will forget it after McCain presidential campaign is over and done with.

bitonti · 04-07-2008, 02:37 PM

Bob Dole is an interesting comparison, both men were far too old to win the general election.

Sourceworx · 04-07-2008, 02:44 PM

[QUOTE=bitonti;2467996]Bob Dole is an interesting comparison, both men were far too old to win the general election.[/QUOTE]

Bob Dole being a weak candidate had little to do with his age. He was an uncharismatic and unexciting candidate.

McCain is much better than Dole in that sense, but he's not in Obama's league.

New York Mick · 04-07-2008, 03:11 PM

[QUOTE=sourceworx;2468010]Bob Dole being a weak candidate had little to do with his age. He was an uncharismatic and unexciting candidate.

McCain is much better than Dole in that sense, but he's not in Obama's league.[/QUOTE]

Thank **** we are voting for the next American President and not the next American Idol.

When the curtain closes the truth comes out, McCain will crash Obama. I think Hillary would have had a better chance against McCain but she crushed herself.

Sourceworx · 04-07-2008, 03:40 PM

[QUOTE=New York Mick;2468081][B]Thank **** we are voting for the next American President and not the next American Idol.[/B]

When the curtain closes the truth comes out, McCain will crash Obama. I think Hillary would have had a better chance against McCain but she crushed herself.[/QUOTE]

I agree.

But charisma goes a long way in any election.

King Ryan · 04-07-2008, 04:00 PM

"100 years of more war in Iraq" and 81% knowing the country needs MAJOR changes definitely speak to your point

mallamalla · 04-07-2008, 04:10 PM

[QUOTE=Tanginius;2468191]"100 years of more war in Iraq" and 81% knowing the country needs MAJOR changes definitely speak to your point[/QUOTE]

McCain never said we will be in Iraq for 100 more years. He said if we had to be there for that long we would.

Obama has charisma, but he is being exposed more and more as a fraud. A lot of Kennedy democrats from the 60's and 70's will not vote for Obama and feel they have a viable option with McCain per his social issues. My entire family is comprised of democrats (grandparetns, parents), and they are all disgusted by Obama. I do think he will pull it out just because of his popularity, but it wont be in a landslide.

bitonti · 04-07-2008, 04:15 PM

[QUOTE=mallamalla;2468218] My entire family is comprised of democrats (grandparetns, parents), and they are all disgusted by Obama.[/QUOTE]

So your family are fans of Hillary? shameful.

MnJetFan · 04-07-2008, 04:19 PM

McCain may be old, but he has a ton of experience and is able to reach across party lines and actually accomplish things. Obama has no experience has had contacts in the past with the underground(terrorists) and a looney minister. Obama is so left wing nobody in the Rebublican Party will vote for any of his programs.

mallamalla · 04-07-2008, 04:36 PM

[QUOTE=bitonti;2468231]So your family are fans of Hillary? shameful.[/QUOTE]

I know, it really is terrible. But they will vote for McCain over Obama.

Question for you since I know you follow Obama:

In the unlikely event Hillary is nominated, who would you vote for if it is Hillary vs. McCain?

jefethegreat · 04-07-2008, 08:34 PM

Well all I can say is the GOP has lost my vote... and I'm not voting for a socialist either... the only viable canidate left in my fiscally conservative, socially liberal mind... [B]Former Republican Congressman from Georgia.... Bob Barr (Libertarian)[/B].... I ain't wasting my vote this year.

bitonti · 04-07-2008, 09:15 PM

[QUOTE=mallamalla;2468269]
In the unlikely event Hillary is nominated, who would you vote for if it is Hillary vs. McCain?[/QUOTE]

I'd vote Hillary just so SNL could be funny again.

Passepartout · 04-08-2008, 01:57 AM

Obama will win over Hilary by a landslide!

asuusa · 04-08-2008, 02:53 PM

If Obama wins, it'll be 4 and out b/c he'll really screw things up.

I don't care for either 'rat candidate, but if we have to have a 'rat prez I'd rather have shrillary!

Maury77 · 04-08-2008, 02:58 PM

[QUOTE=mallamalla;2468269]I know, it really is terrible. But they will vote for McCain over Obama.

Question for you since I know you follow Obama:

In the unlikely event Hillary is nominated, who would you vote for if it is Hillary vs. McCain?[/QUOTE]

Problably Johnny Mac

fukushimajin · 04-08-2008, 03:02 PM

I think a democratic landslide is in the air, but it may not materialize in practice. A gentleman with a bio / talents identical to Obama who was white and named "Robert Smith" would be looking at a crushing victory. As it stands, I think we'll have a barely comfortable win with a few scares during the summer and even a couple on election night.

The Republicans, however, are going to really suffer in the House and Senate -- and deservedly so -- the 2000-2006 majority crowd are among the worst groups ever to serve.

asuusa · 04-08-2008, 03:44 PM

[QUOTE=fukushimajin;2469796]I think a democratic landslide is in the air, but it may not materialize in practice. A gentleman with a bio / talents identical to Obama who was white and named "Robert Smith" would be looking at a crushing victory. As it stands, I think we'll have a barely comfortable win with a few scares during the summer and even a couple on election night.

The Republicans, however, are going to really suffer in the House and Senate -- and deservedly so -- the 2000-2006 majority crowd are among the worst groups ever to serve.[/QUOTE]

Yup, the 'rats took over in '06 and now look at the economy!

BTW, that majority crowd took over in '94 not '00.

2foolish197 · 04-08-2008, 03:46 PM

[QUOTE=angry jets fan;2467981]unfortunately ...

If anybody thought Bob Dole ran a poor campaign, you will forget it after McCain presidential campaign is over and done with.[/QUOTE]
what drugs are you taking?...President McCain..get use to it.

fukushimajin · 04-08-2008, 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=asuusa;2469862]Yup, the 'rats took over in '06 and now look at the economy!

BTW, that majority crowd took over in '94 and not '00.[/QUOTE]

On the first point, you're joking of course. Bush and the Republicans are 100% responsible for the economy --which isn't all bad right? That's what Bush keeps saying anyway. Just as the Dems were 100% responsible for the economy from 1992-2000 as the Clinton budget passed with 0 Republican votes.

Second, right, but the 94'-2000 leadership in the House and Senate was different than during the 2000-2006 period. The latter group (Delay, Frist, Boehner) were much worse.

frostlich · 04-08-2008, 06:18 PM

The GOP really burns my ass on this one. The dems produce BHO as the competition, and the best the GOP can manage is McCain?

The fact this election may be close, or even lost to the likes of BHO should prompt the GOP to take a long, hard look in the mirror.

Of course, McCain's left the reservation so often, you might as well say the dems have it locked up no matter who "wins."

04-07-2008, 02:27 PM	#1
angry jets fan All Pro Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 1,656	I think McCain (and the GOP) will lose in a landslide to Obama in the fall unfortunately ... If anybody thought Bob Dole ran a poor campaign, you will forget it after McCain presidential campaign is over and done with.

04-07-2008, 02:37 PM	#2
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	Bob Dole is an interesting comparison, both men were far too old to win the general election.

04-07-2008, 02:44 PM	#3
Sourceworx Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 13,430	[QUOTE=bitonti;2467996]Bob Dole is an interesting comparison, both men were far too old to win the general election.[/QUOTE] Bob Dole being a weak candidate had little to do with his age. He was an uncharismatic and unexciting candidate. McCain is much better than Dole in that sense, but he's not in Obama's league.

04-07-2008, 03:11 PM	#4
New York Mick Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ft Lauderdale by way of New York Posts: 13,208	[QUOTE=sourceworx;2468010]Bob Dole being a weak candidate had little to do with his age. He was an uncharismatic and unexciting candidate. McCain is much better than Dole in that sense, but he's not in Obama's league.[/QUOTE] Thank **** we are voting for the next American President and not the next American Idol. When the curtain closes the truth comes out, McCain will crash Obama. I think Hillary would have had a better chance against McCain but she crushed herself.

04-07-2008, 03:40 PM	#5
Sourceworx Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 13,430	[QUOTE=New York Mick;2468081][B]Thank **** we are voting for the next American President and not the next American Idol.[/B] When the curtain closes the truth comes out, McCain will crash Obama. I think Hillary would have had a better chance against McCain but she crushed herself.[/QUOTE] I agree. But charisma goes a long way in any election.

04-07-2008, 04:00 PM	#6
King Ryan take a guess Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Montville, NJ Posts: 5,473	"100 years of more war in Iraq" and 81% knowing the country needs MAJOR changes definitely speak to your point

04-07-2008, 04:10 PM	#7
mallamalla Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 714	[QUOTE=Tanginius;2468191]"100 years of more war in Iraq" and 81% knowing the country needs MAJOR changes definitely speak to your point[/QUOTE] McCain never said we will be in Iraq for 100 more years. He said if we had to be there for that long we would. Obama has charisma, but he is being exposed more and more as a fraud. A lot of Kennedy democrats from the 60's and 70's will not vote for Obama and feel they have a viable option with McCain per his social issues. My entire family is comprised of democrats (grandparetns, parents), and they are all disgusted by Obama. I do think he will pull it out just because of his popularity, but it wont be in a landslide.

04-07-2008, 04:15 PM	#8
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	[QUOTE=mallamalla;2468218] My entire family is comprised of democrats (grandparetns, parents), and they are all disgusted by Obama.[/QUOTE] So your family are fans of Hillary? shameful.

04-07-2008, 04:19 PM	#9
MnJetFan All League Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,302	McCain may be old, but he has a ton of experience and is able to reach across party lines and actually accomplish things. Obama has no experience has had contacts in the past with the underground(terrorists) and a looney minister. Obama is so left wing nobody in the Rebublican Party will vote for any of his programs.

04-07-2008, 04:36 PM	#10
mallamalla Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 714	[QUOTE=bitonti;2468231]So your family are fans of Hillary? shameful.[/QUOTE] I know, it really is terrible. But they will vote for McCain over Obama. Question for you since I know you follow Obama: In the unlikely event Hillary is nominated, who would you vote for if it is Hillary vs. McCain?

04-07-2008, 08:34 PM	#11
jefethegreat lovin' America Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 848	Well all I can say is the GOP has lost my vote... and I'm not voting for a socialist either... the only viable canidate left in my fiscally conservative, socially liberal mind... [B]Former Republican Congressman from Georgia.... Bob Barr (Libertarian)[/B].... I ain't wasting my vote this year.

04-07-2008, 09:15 PM	#12
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	[QUOTE=mallamalla;2468269] In the unlikely event Hillary is nominated, who would you vote for if it is Hillary vs. McCain?[/QUOTE] I'd vote Hillary just so SNL could be funny again.

04-08-2008, 01:57 AM	#13
Passepartout Memorial Day! Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seymour TN Posts: 125	Obama will win over Hilary by a landslide!

04-08-2008, 02:53 PM	#14
asuusa All Pro Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,171	If Obama wins, it'll be 4 and out b/c he'll really screw things up. I don't care for either 'rat candidate, but if we have to have a 'rat prez I'd rather have shrillary!

04-08-2008, 02:58 PM	#15
Maury77 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,087	[QUOTE=mallamalla;2468269]I know, it really is terrible. But they will vote for McCain over Obama. Question for you since I know you follow Obama: In the unlikely event Hillary is nominated, who would you vote for if it is Hillary vs. McCain?[/QUOTE] Problably Johnny Mac

04-08-2008, 03:02 PM	#16
fukushimajin All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,130	I think a democratic landslide is in the air, but it may not materialize in practice. A gentleman with a bio / talents identical to Obama who was white and named "Robert Smith" would be looking at a crushing victory. As it stands, I think we'll have a barely comfortable win with a few scares during the summer and even a couple on election night. The Republicans, however, are going to really suffer in the House and Senate -- and deservedly so -- the 2000-2006 majority crowd are among the worst groups ever to serve.

04-08-2008, 03:44 PM	#17
asuusa All Pro Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,171	[QUOTE=fukushimajin;2469796]I think a democratic landslide is in the air, but it may not materialize in practice. A gentleman with a bio / talents identical to Obama who was white and named "Robert Smith" would be looking at a crushing victory. As it stands, I think we'll have a barely comfortable win with a few scares during the summer and even a couple on election night. The Republicans, however, are going to really suffer in the House and Senate -- and deservedly so -- the 2000-2006 majority crowd are among the worst groups ever to serve.[/QUOTE] Yup, the 'rats took over in '06 and now look at the economy! BTW, that majority crowd took over in '94 not '00.

04-08-2008, 03:46 PM	#18
2foolish197 i suspect hanky-panky All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: astoria Posts: 4,528	[QUOTE=angry jets fan;2467981]unfortunately ... If anybody thought Bob Dole ran a poor campaign, you will forget it after McCain presidential campaign is over and done with.[/QUOTE] what drugs are you taking?...President McCain..get use to it.

04-08-2008, 04:22 PM	#19
fukushimajin All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,130	[QUOTE=asuusa;2469862]Yup, the 'rats took over in '06 and now look at the economy! BTW, that majority crowd took over in '94 and not '00.[/QUOTE] On the first point, you're joking of course. Bush and the Republicans are 100% responsible for the economy --which isn't all bad right? That's what Bush keeps saying anyway. Just as the Dems were 100% responsible for the economy from 1992-2000 as the Clinton budget passed with 0 Republican votes. Second, right, but the 94'-2000 leadership in the House and Senate was different than during the 2000-2006 period. The latter group (Delay, Frist, Boehner) were much worse.

04-08-2008, 06:18 PM	#20
frostlich Get it done Shidzik! All League Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,972	The GOP really burns my ass on this one. The dems produce BHO as the competition, and the best the GOP can manage is McCain? The fact this election may be close, or even lost to the likes of BHO should prompt the GOP to take a long, hard look in the mirror. Of course, McCain's left the reservation so often, you might as well say the dems have it locked up no matter who "wins."