McCain Does Not Care About the Lives of People?

Warfish · 04-09-2008, 01:22 PM

[QUOTE]"McCain was a fighter pilot, who dropped laser-guided missiles from 35,000 feet. He was long gone when they hit. What happened when they [the missiles] get to the ground? He doesn't know. You have to care about the lives of people. McCain never gets into those issues." Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-WV[/QUOTE]

Opinions?

JetFanTransplant · 04-09-2008, 01:25 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;2471700]Opinions?[/QUOTE]

Yeah he was so safe and "long-gone" after dropping his laser guided missiles that he got shot down and help captive at the Hanoi Hilton for years.

Sure, he doesn't care about life. :rolleyes:

SanAntonio_JetFan · 04-09-2008, 01:26 PM

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but laser-guided missles weren't used operationally until 1968. McCain was shot down on Oct. 26, 1967. So, I doubt he ever fired any laser-guided missles.

Jetfan_Johnny · 04-09-2008, 01:27 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;2471700]Opinions?[/QUOTE]

That is absolutely absurd. Becuase he was a fighter pilot during a war he doesn't car about people. That statement is ridiculous.

Wouldn't that say that any veteran who fired at the enemy doesn't car about the lives of people????

Mavrik · 04-09-2008, 01:33 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;2471700]Opinions?[/QUOTE]

Sounds like he just basically implied that anyone serving in the military in a combat role doesn't give a s*** about other people. Is that right?

JerseyJet2007 · 04-09-2008, 01:35 PM

Oh he cares. Didn't he reject an offer to leave Vietnam let's not forget that.

Jetfan_Johnny · 04-09-2008, 01:36 PM

[QUOTE=Mavrik;2471728]Sounds like he just basically implied that anyone serving in the military in a combat role doesn't give a s*** about other people. Is that right?[/QUOTE]

Thats how i read it.

JerseyJet2007 · 04-09-2008, 01:37 PM

[QUOTE=Mavrik;2471728]Sounds like he just basically implied that anyone serving in the military in a combat role doesn't give a s*** about other people. Is that right?[/QUOTE]

Unless your a leftist.

bitonti · 04-09-2008, 01:39 PM

the guy already apologized for the statement - before this thread was started

It was obviously a foolish statement.

But I will say this much McCain is well known to have a crazy temper. I don't know if we need another hot head in charge.

[IMG]http://www.sahbasucks.com/images/mccain-angry.jpg[/IMG]

MnJetFan · 04-09-2008, 01:39 PM

When was this? The man suffered for years in a POW camp, while Obama did drugs and Hillary lied!

JerseyJet2007 · 04-09-2008, 01:40 PM

[QUOTE=bitonti;2471746]the guy already apologized for the statement - before this thread was started

It was obviously a foolish statement.

But I will say this much McCain is well known to have a crazy temper. I don't know if we need another hot head in charge.

[IMG]http://www.sahbasucks.com/images/mccain-angry.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

A temper as opposed to the biggest Liberal ever running? I'll take my chances with Johnny Mac.

Jetfan_Johnny · 04-09-2008, 01:41 PM

[QUOTE=bitonti;2471746]the guy already apologized for the statement - before this thread was started

It was obviously a foolish statement.

But I will say this much McCain is well known to have a crazy temper. I don't know if we need another hot head in charge.

[IMG]http://www.sahbasucks.com/images/mccain-angry.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

You can't just running spewing ridiculous statements especially about the military service of John McCain of all people and then turn around and issue an apology as if it makes it ok.

kennyo7 · 04-09-2008, 01:45 PM

He doesnt care about people in general or he didnt care about the people he was dropping bombs on at the time he was doing so?

Big difference.

kennyo7 · 04-09-2008, 01:46 PM

[QUOTE=Jetfan_Johnny;2471754]You can't just running spewing ridiculous statements especially about the military service of John McCain of all people and then turn around and issue an apology as if it makes it ok.[/QUOTE]

Why? Dubya accused him of fathering an illegitimate black child in 2000, then appologized. That was ok?

JerseyJet2007 · 04-09-2008, 01:47 PM

[QUOTE=kennyo7;2471771]Why? Dubya accused him of fathering an illegitimate black child in 2000, then appologized. That was ok?[/QUOTE]

Dubya himself accused McCain? It came out of his mouth?

Mavrik · 04-09-2008, 01:47 PM

Funny that a man claiming that "you have to care for the lives of others" voted yes to allowing the govt. to designate terror suspects as enemy combatants and have their rights to habeas corpus removed.

Another "Do as I say, not as I do" politician.

bitonti · 04-09-2008, 01:49 PM

[QUOTE=Jetfan_Johnny;2471754]You can't just running spewing ridiculous statements especially about the military service of John McCain of all people and then turn around and issue an apology as if it makes it ok.[/QUOTE]

don't forget neither Obama nor Hillary made this statement

If this effects Jay Rockafeller's re-election bid that's fair.

Read the Political Forum all day long you'll find surrogates making crazy statements ("we need more white people" for example) but very rarely will the candidates themselves make these statements.

The American people don't care about surrogates they care about individuals.

bitonti · 04-09-2008, 01:50 PM

[QUOTE=JerseyJet2007;2471774]Dubya himself accused McCain? It came out of his mouth?[/QUOTE]

just as Dubya didn't accuse McCain directly, Obama or Hillary didn't accuse McCain directly - surroagates, it's all surrogates.

Jetfan_Johnny · 04-09-2008, 01:50 PM

[QUOTE=kennyo7;2471771]Why? Dubya accused him of fathering an illegitimate black child in 2000, then appologized. That was ok?[/QUOTE]

Hardly the same a challenging his military service.

But if you follow Rockefeller's logic GWB is a great person because he dodged the war so he must actually care about peoples lives.

JerseyJet2007 · 04-09-2008, 01:52 PM

[QUOTE=bitonti;2471782]just as Dubya didn't accuse McCain directly, Obama or Hillary didn't accuse McCain directly - surroagates, it's all surrogates.[/QUOTE]

Right. Problem is your other post didn't say indirectly. You made it sound like it came out of Bush's mouth. I called you out on it beause I knew the facts. But to someone with no info on the situation that would have looked like Bush said it his damn self. THATS NOT TRUE AT ALL

04-09-2008, 01:22 PM	#1
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	McCain Does Not Care About the Lives of People? [QUOTE]"McCain was a fighter pilot, who dropped laser-guided missiles from 35,000 feet. He was long gone when they hit. What happened when they [the missiles] get to the ground? He doesn't know. You have to care about the lives of people. McCain never gets into those issues." Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-WV[/QUOTE] Opinions?

04-09-2008, 01:25 PM	#2
JetFanTransplant Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: On some beach... somewhere... Posts: 3,735	[QUOTE=Warfish;2471700]Opinions?[/QUOTE] Yeah he was so safe and "long-gone" after dropping his laser guided missiles that he got shot down and help captive at the Hanoi Hilton for years. Sure, he doesn't care about life. :rolleyes:

04-09-2008, 01:26 PM	#3
SanAntonio_JetFan Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,481	Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but laser-guided missles weren't used operationally until 1968. McCain was shot down on Oct. 26, 1967. So, I doubt he ever fired any laser-guided missles.

04-09-2008, 01:27 PM	#4
Jetfan_Johnny All Pro Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,535	[QUOTE=Warfish;2471700]Opinions?[/QUOTE] That is absolutely absurd. Becuase he was a fighter pilot during a war he doesn't car about people. That statement is ridiculous. Wouldn't that say that any veteran who fired at the enemy doesn't car about the lives of people????

04-09-2008, 01:33 PM	#5
Mavrik All Pro Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 1,753	[QUOTE=Warfish;2471700]Opinions?[/QUOTE] Sounds like he just basically implied that anyone serving in the military in a combat role doesn't give a s*** about other people. Is that right?

04-09-2008, 01:35 PM	#6
JerseyJet2007 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 235	Oh he cares. Didn't he reject an offer to leave Vietnam let's not forget that.

04-09-2008, 01:36 PM	#7
Jetfan_Johnny All Pro Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,535	[QUOTE=Mavrik;2471728]Sounds like he just basically implied that anyone serving in the military in a combat role doesn't give a s*** about other people. Is that right?[/QUOTE] Thats how i read it.

04-09-2008, 01:37 PM	#8
JerseyJet2007 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 235	[QUOTE=Mavrik;2471728]Sounds like he just basically implied that anyone serving in the military in a combat role doesn't give a s*** about other people. Is that right?[/QUOTE] Unless your a leftist.

04-09-2008, 01:39 PM	#9
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	the guy already apologized for the statement - before this thread was started It was obviously a foolish statement. But I will say this much McCain is well known to have a crazy temper. I don't know if we need another hot head in charge. [IMG]http://www.sahbasucks.com/images/mccain-angry.jpg[/IMG]

04-09-2008, 01:39 PM	#10
MnJetFan All League Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,302	When was this? The man suffered for years in a POW camp, while Obama did drugs and Hillary lied!

04-09-2008, 01:40 PM	#11
JerseyJet2007 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 235	[QUOTE=bitonti;2471746]the guy already apologized for the statement - before this thread was started It was obviously a foolish statement. But I will say this much McCain is well known to have a crazy temper. I don't know if we need another hot head in charge. [IMG]http://www.sahbasucks.com/images/mccain-angry.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] A temper as opposed to the biggest Liberal ever running? I'll take my chances with Johnny Mac.

04-09-2008, 01:41 PM	#12
Jetfan_Johnny All Pro Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,535	[QUOTE=bitonti;2471746]the guy already apologized for the statement - before this thread was started It was obviously a foolish statement. But I will say this much McCain is well known to have a crazy temper. I don't know if we need another hot head in charge. [IMG]http://www.sahbasucks.com/images/mccain-angry.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] You can't just running spewing ridiculous statements especially about the military service of John McCain of all people and then turn around and issue an apology as if it makes it ok.

04-09-2008, 01:45 PM	#13
kennyo7 All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,404	He doesnt care about people in general or he didnt care about the people he was dropping bombs on at the time he was doing so? Big difference.

04-09-2008, 01:46 PM	#14
kennyo7 All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,404	[QUOTE=Jetfan_Johnny;2471754]You can't just running spewing ridiculous statements especially about the military service of John McCain of all people and then turn around and issue an apology as if it makes it ok.[/QUOTE] Why? Dubya accused him of fathering an illegitimate black child in 2000, then appologized. That was ok?

04-09-2008, 01:47 PM	#15
JerseyJet2007 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 235	[QUOTE=kennyo7;2471771]Why? Dubya accused him of fathering an illegitimate black child in 2000, then appologized. That was ok?[/QUOTE] Dubya himself accused McCain? It came out of his mouth?

04-09-2008, 01:49 PM	#17
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	[QUOTE=Jetfan_Johnny;2471754]You can't just running spewing ridiculous statements especially about the military service of John McCain of all people and then turn around and issue an apology as if it makes it ok.[/QUOTE] don't forget neither Obama nor Hillary made this statement If this effects Jay Rockafeller's re-election bid that's fair. Read the Political Forum all day long you'll find surrogates making crazy statements ("we need more white people" for example) but very rarely will the candidates themselves make these statements. The American people don't care about surrogates they care about individuals.

04-09-2008, 01:50 PM	#18
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	[QUOTE=JerseyJet2007;2471774]Dubya himself accused McCain? It came out of his mouth?[/QUOTE] just as Dubya didn't accuse McCain directly, Obama or Hillary didn't accuse McCain directly - surroagates, it's all surrogates.

04-09-2008, 01:52 PM	#20
JerseyJet2007 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 235	[QUOTE=bitonti;2471782]just as Dubya didn't accuse McCain directly, Obama or Hillary didn't accuse McCain directly - surroagates, it's all surrogates.[/QUOTE] Right. Problem is your other post didn't say indirectly. You made it sound like it came out of Bush's mouth. I called you out on it beause I knew the facts. But to someone with no info on the situation that would have looked like Bush said it his damn self. THATS NOT TRUE AT ALL