Hillary/Obama seems like Pennington/Clemens

jetstream23 · 04-22-2008, 03:35 AM

Man, this thing just won't end. It is seriously like a Pennington/Clemens situation....Hillary was the early party favorite and the veteran, then came Obama but he hasn't been able to distinguish himself and distance himself in the competition. So, when it looked to be all over for Hillary a few weeks ago she somehow gets new life and piles the time and money into PA for a comeback attempt.

Assuming Hillary wins in PA by a decent but not huge margin I just don't see this thing ending any time soon. Like Pennington, she just won't fade away easily. By June, Hillary and Obama will have mangled each other. If I were a Dem I'd want to see the DNC or someone else work behind the scenes to help these two realize that the last man/woman standing is going to be so battered that the National election will be made that much tougher.

A couple of months ago I felt that the country was swinging to Obama generally. He had momentum and that "new car smell" to him. He was energizing the youth and polls showed that he would win a general election against any of the Rep. candidates (McCain, Romney, etc. at the time). Now, Hillary has been doing the work that the Republicans could have only dreamed of...engaging Obama directly and voraciously, making him address issues and topics so often that he's starting to slipup, make stupid comments and is seriously losing his luster. Polls now seem to show McCain no longer trailing Obama if the election were held today.

I think this is a classic case where one of these two could win the battle at the expense of eventually losing the war. (no Iraq war pun intended :D )

PlumberKhan · 04-22-2008, 07:29 AM

Ken Mehlmen and Mr. Rove are now official unofficial advisors to the McCain campaign. Thusly(lol), Clinton will be the nominee and if Obama cherishes his career in the Dem party, he will graciously accept the position as veep and run again in 2016.

BTW, some set of shriveled raisins McCain has...hire the guy that accused you of rolling over for the North Vietnamese and who was behind the push polling that suggested you fathered your adopted daughter illegitamately. Clinton has a bigger set than this frail fossil.

jetstream23 · 04-22-2008, 04:15 PM

[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2494030]Ken Mehlmen and Mr. Rove are now official unofficial advisors to the McCain campaign. Thusly(lol), Clinton will be the nominee and if Obama cherishes his career in the Dem party, he will graciously accept the position as veep and run again in 2016.

BTW, some set of shriveled raisins McCain has...hire the guy that accused you of rolling over for the North Vietnamese and who was behind the push polling that suggested you fathered your adopted daughter illegitamately. Clinton has a bigger set than this frail fossil.[/QUOTE]

Maybe it actually takes a pair of brass ones to hire the guy that spent so much time working against you. Johnny Damon becomes a Yankee, Eric Mangini goes to the Jets....just the most recent case of a hired gun I think.

PlumberKhan · 04-22-2008, 04:25 PM

[QUOTE=jetstream23;2495141]Maybe it actually takes a pair of brass ones to hire the guy that spent so much time working against you. Johnny Damon becomes a Yankee, Eric Mangini goes to the Jets....just the most recent case of a hired gun I think.[/QUOTE]

Do you think Steinbrenner would have hired Damon if Damon said he liked to frequent Minneapolis bath stalls and was a closet Sox fan? :D

I see you point...there is a certian advantage to hiring someone who's former job was to exploit your weaknesses...he'll help you protect them.

JetPotato · 04-22-2008, 04:31 PM

Pennington > Clinton
Clemens > Pennington
Obama > Clinton
Poop > Clinton

Knowing the above, true or false: Pennington > Poop.

jetstream23 · 04-22-2008, 04:33 PM

[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2495168][B]Do you think Steinbrenner would have hired Damon if Damon said he liked to frequent Minneapolis bath stalls and was a closet Sox fan?[/B] :D

I see you point...there is a certian advantage to hiring someone who's former job was to exploit your weaknesses...he'll help you protect them.[/QUOTE]

What do you mean "if"? :P

piney · 04-22-2008, 05:57 PM

does this analogy make McCain Testeverde?

Smashmouth · 04-22-2008, 07:46 PM

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CaliJetsFan · 04-23-2008, 12:55 AM

Im so sick of the Democrats at this point...its been going on forever. Its really stupid the way they give delegates to the loser. this wouldve been over a long time ago and saved alot of money if it was winner take all similar to what the republicans do. Clinton wins by double digits and only gains 6 delegates wtf? I mean is all the money and time really worth 6 delegates? there has to be a better system right? :huh:

04-22-2008, 03:35 AM	#1
jetstream23 recovering from turf toe Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ (New Jets Stadium Section 246) Posts: 31,730	Hillary/Obama seems like Pennington/Clemens Man, this thing just won't end. It is seriously like a Pennington/Clemens situation....Hillary was the early party favorite and the veteran, then came Obama but he hasn't been able to distinguish himself and distance himself in the competition. So, when it looked to be all over for Hillary a few weeks ago she somehow gets new life and piles the time and money into PA for a comeback attempt. Assuming Hillary wins in PA by a decent but not huge margin I just don't see this thing ending any time soon. Like Pennington, she just won't fade away easily. By June, Hillary and Obama will have mangled each other. If I were a Dem I'd want to see the DNC or someone else work behind the scenes to help these two realize that the last man/woman standing is going to be so battered that the National election will be made that much tougher. A couple of months ago I felt that the country was swinging to Obama generally. He had momentum and that "new car smell" to him. He was energizing the youth and polls showed that he would win a general election against any of the Rep. candidates (McCain, Romney, etc. at the time). Now, Hillary has been doing the work that the Republicans could have only dreamed of...engaging Obama directly and voraciously, making him address issues and topics so often that he's starting to slipup, make stupid comments and is seriously losing his luster. Polls now seem to show McCain no longer trailing Obama if the election were held today. I think this is a classic case where one of these two could win the battle at the expense of eventually losing the war. (no Iraq war pun intended :D )

04-22-2008, 07:29 AM	#2
PlumberKhan HAIL SATAN! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,081	Ken Mehlmen and Mr. Rove are now official unofficial advisors to the McCain campaign. Thusly(lol), Clinton will be the nominee and if Obama cherishes his career in the Dem party, he will graciously accept the position as veep and run again in 2016. BTW, some set of shriveled raisins McCain has...hire the guy that accused you of rolling over for the North Vietnamese and who was behind the push polling that suggested you fathered your adopted daughter illegitamately. Clinton has a bigger set than this frail fossil.

04-22-2008, 04:15 PM	#3
jetstream23 recovering from turf toe Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ (New Jets Stadium Section 246) Posts: 31,730	[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2494030]Ken Mehlmen and Mr. Rove are now official unofficial advisors to the McCain campaign. Thusly(lol), Clinton will be the nominee and if Obama cherishes his career in the Dem party, he will graciously accept the position as veep and run again in 2016. BTW, some set of shriveled raisins McCain has...hire the guy that accused you of rolling over for the North Vietnamese and who was behind the push polling that suggested you fathered your adopted daughter illegitamately. Clinton has a bigger set than this frail fossil.[/QUOTE] Maybe it actually takes a pair of brass ones to hire the guy that spent so much time working against you. Johnny Damon becomes a Yankee, Eric Mangini goes to the Jets....just the most recent case of a hired gun I think.

04-22-2008, 04:25 PM	#4
PlumberKhan HAIL SATAN! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,081	[QUOTE=jetstream23;2495141]Maybe it actually takes a pair of brass ones to hire the guy that spent so much time working against you. Johnny Damon becomes a Yankee, Eric Mangini goes to the Jets....just the most recent case of a hired gun I think.[/QUOTE] Do you think Steinbrenner would have hired Damon if Damon said he liked to frequent Minneapolis bath stalls and was a closet Sox fan? :D I see you point...there is a certian advantage to hiring someone who's former job was to exploit your weaknesses...he'll help you protect them.

04-22-2008, 04:31 PM	#5
JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,209	Pennington > Clinton Clemens > Pennington Obama > Clinton Poop > Clinton Knowing the above, true or false: Pennington > Poop.

04-22-2008, 04:33 PM	#6
jetstream23 recovering from turf toe Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ (New Jets Stadium Section 246) Posts: 31,730	[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2495168][B]Do you think Steinbrenner would have hired Damon if Damon said he liked to frequent Minneapolis bath stalls and was a closet Sox fan?[/B] :D I see you point...there is a certian advantage to hiring someone who's former job was to exploit your weaknesses...he'll help you protect them.[/QUOTE] What do you mean "if"? :P

04-22-2008, 05:57 PM	#7
piney hip deep in dirty diapers All League Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,618	does this analogy make McCain Testeverde?

04-22-2008, 07:46 PM	#8
Smashmouth Smashing....um.....Mouths. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas Via Brooklyn NY Posts: 3,159	[url]

04-23-2008, 12:55 AM	#9
CaliJetsFan :( All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Covina, Ca Posts: 1,737	Im so sick of the Democrats at this point...its been going on forever. Its really stupid the way they give delegates to the loser. this wouldve been over a long time ago and saved alot of money if it was winner take all similar to what the republicans do. Clinton wins by double digits and only gains 6 delegates wtf? I mean is all the money and time really worth 6 delegates? there has to be a better system right? :huh: