McCain's "Spiritual Guide" Wants America to Destroy Islam

blast2blaze · 05-08-2008, 05:30 PM

[url]http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/38133-mccain-s-spiritual-guide-wants-america-to-destroy-islam[/url]

wow

Jetsrush · 05-08-2008, 05:43 PM

[QUOTE=blast2blaze;2529956][url]http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/38133-mccain-s-spiritual-guide-wants-america-to-destroy-islam[/url]

wow[/QUOTE]

:zzz::zzz::zzz:

intelligentjetsfan · 05-08-2008, 05:45 PM

it will be funny to watch as this story about this lunatic picks up steam over the summer. watch as the same phonies that have done everything possible to brainwash Americans to think Obama and wright are one in the same, back peddle with this story.

And before these hypocrites make excuses, all you have to know is that, unlike Obama, McCain actively[B] sought [/B]the recommendation of that nut job, Hagee.

cr726 · 05-08-2008, 06:19 PM

Just goes to show you the most outspoken and politically active pundits are self serving, money and power hungry idiots. They use religion to make themselves important.

They have no place in politics.

PlumberKhan · 05-08-2008, 06:38 PM

[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;2529974] McCain actively[B] sought [/B]the recommendation of that nut job, Hagee.[/QUOTE]

Come on now.

Actively seeking the endorsement of a crazed preacher who blames 9/11 on America certainly isn't as bad as getting married by a crazed preacher who blames 9/11 on America. I mean...hello.

Obama belonged to his church for 20 years! That's crazy! And then Obama had the audacity to say that he didn't agree with EVERYTHING Wright said. How very typical of a politician.

It's definitely a whole lot different than McCain actively seeking the endorsement of a preacher whom he shares no common veiws with, strictly for the purpose of scoring points with a voting base with no intentions whatsoever of actually forming policy that mirrors their veiws. That's different. That's Washington outsider-ish. What a maverick. What a breath of fresh air.

He's anti-anti-anything-everything-nothing.

2foolish197 · 05-08-2008, 07:04 PM

[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;2529974]it will be funny to watch as this story about this lunatic picks up steam over the summer. watch as the same phonies that have done everything possible to brainwash Americans to think Obama and wright are one in the same, back peddle with this story.

And before these hypocrites make excuses, all you have to know is that, unlike Obama, McCain actively[B] sought [/B]the recommendation of that nut job, Hagee.[/QUOTE] i'm cutting you off until you change that stupid, pretentious name that a psychologist would have a field day with that you gave yourself.i'll miss you.

2foolish197 · 05-08-2008, 07:05 PM

[QUOTE=cr726;2530000]Just goes to show you the most outspoken and politically active pundits are self serving, money and power hungry idiots. They use religion to make themselves important.

They have no place in politics.[/QUOTE]yeah he sounds a little ripe but what are his connections to McCain.spiritual adviser?

2foolish197 · 05-08-2008, 07:06 PM

[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2530017]Come on now.

Actively seeking the endorsement of a crazed preacher who blames 9/11 on America certainly isn't as bad as getting married by a crazed preacher who blames 9/11 on America. I mean...hello.

Obama belonged to his church for 20 years! That's crazy! And then Obama had the audacity to say that he didn't agree with EVERYTHING Wright said. How very typical of a politician.

It's definitely a whole lot different than McCain actively seeking the endorsement of a preacher whom he shares no common veiws with, strictly for the purpose of scoring points with a voting base with no intentions whatsoever of actually forming policy that mirrors their veiws. That's different. That's Washington outsider-ish. What a maverick. What a breath of fresh air.

He's anti-anti-anything-everything-nothing.[/QUOTE]does McCain have any history with this guy?

David Harris · 05-08-2008, 07:22 PM

McCain shouldn't be judged on his association with this nutjob anymore than Obama should be judged on his association with his nutjob.

Both relationships show poor decision making but it's stupid to hate on someone for what other people say or do.

PlumberKhan · 05-08-2008, 07:29 PM

[QUOTE=2foolish197;2530047]does McCain have any history with this guy?[/QUOTE]

Doesn't matter. He sought the endorsement of a man who blames 9/11 on America.

No matter how you slice it...he willingly associated with a crazed preacher...just as Obama has.

Either it's wrong or it's not. Rationalizing it makes you see just as looney as those who wish to rationalize Obama's association with Wright.

McCain knowingly AND willingly sought the endorsement of him. Willingly.

2foolish197 · 05-08-2008, 07:31 PM

[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2530082]Doesn't matter. He sought the endorsement of a man who blames 9/11 on America.

No matter how you slice it...he willingly associated with a crazed preacher...just as Obama has.

Either it's wrong or it's not. Rationalizing it makes you see just as looney as those who wish to rationalize Obama's association with Wright.

McCain knowingly AND willingly sought the endorsement of him. Willingly.[/QUOTE]
if thats the case i agree with you...

intelligentjetsfan · 05-08-2008, 07:31 PM

[QUOTE=2foolish197;2530041]i'm cutting you off until you change that stupid, pretentious name that a psychologist would have a field day with that you gave yourself.i'll miss you.[/QUOTE]

But I love the name you gave yourself.

2foolish197 · 05-08-2008, 07:33 PM

[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;2530087]But I love the name you gave yourself.[/QUOTE]
you didn't say you'll miss me...

intelligentjetsfan · 05-08-2008, 07:35 PM

[QUOTE=2foolish197;2530090]you didn't say you'll miss me...[/QUOTE]

I will. I do enjoy the debates as I know its all in good fun.

2foolish197 · 05-08-2008, 07:37 PM

[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;2530093]I will. I do enjoy the debates as I know its all in good fun.[/QUOTE]hmmm...

Maury77 · 05-08-2008, 08:00 PM

[QUOTE=David Harris;2530071]McCain shouldn't be judged on his association with this nutjob anymore than Obama should be judged on his association with his nutjob.

Both relationships show poor decision making but it's stupid to hate on someone for what other people say or do.[/QUOTE]

I agree. But then again, I am not going to vote for McCain because he tried to ban mixed martial arts 10 years ago. Yes, I am that out of my f*cking mind.

MnJetFan · 05-08-2008, 08:55 PM

[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;2529974]it will be funny to watch as this story about this lunatic picks up steam over the summer. watch as the same phonies that have done everything possible to brainwash Americans to think Obama and wright are one in the same, back peddle with this story.

And before these hypocrites make excuses, all you have to know is that, unlike Obama, McCain actively[B] sought [/B]the recommendation of that nut job, Hagee.[/QUOTE]

Obama spent 20 years in a church with this man and a number of years with admitted murderer. WTF is the difference.

Smashmouth · 05-08-2008, 09:05 PM

These Presidential races are getting way the hell out of control. So much so that people dont even concentrate on the issues anymore. The concentrate on the trash. Good way to elect a president.:rolleyes:

intelligentjetsfan · 05-08-2008, 09:07 PM

[QUOTE=MnJetFan;2530204]Obama spent 20 years in a church with this man and a number of years with admitted murderer. WTF is the difference.[/QUOTE]

I think that this nonsense of judging a candidate's ability to be a commander in chief based on who he talked to in church or who he sat next to at a board meeting is ignorant. I feel the same way about McCain seeking the endorsement of that racist, hagee. They are both non-stories manipulated to play on prejudice and ignorance.

But it will be hilarious in the summer and fall when the media turns their attention off of one idiotic story and to this idiotic one. What will be hilarious to watch will be all the mouth pieces on Fox Propaganda and EIB Klan Network as they tell us that the Rev. hagee situation is not important...[I]but[/I] still pay attention to rev. Wright. And then log on here to read the puppets mouth the same sentiments. :zzz::zzz::zzz:

intelligentjetsfan · 05-08-2008, 09:22 PM

[QUOTE=Smashmouth;2530217]These Presidential races are getting way the hell out of control. So much so that people dont even concentrate on the issues anymore. The concentrate on the trash. Good way to elect a president.:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

smashmouth, its done on purpose in the classic "divide and conquer" strategy. We have people running to their own corners instead of coming to the middle to find common ground. Instead of working together in the best interest of the country, we are purposely divided as a population. repubs vs dems, blacks vs whites, males vs females, old vs young, religion vs religion and so on.

So we fight with each other, all the while taking our attention away from the people who have corrupted our country. God forbid, we discussed issues. We are trained through the 'dumbed-down" process of the main stream media to have short attention spans and to focus on gossip and nonsense. This is what passes as news in 2008. Instead of examing the role of the federal reserve in contributing to our national debt, we are fed stories about why a candidate doesn't wear a lapel pin or who he shared a coke with in 1978 :zzz::zzz: Instead of the media raising an honest debate about why we find ourselves in these same type of wars and nation building, we are given stories about a candidate who talked to someone who knew someone that committed a crime in 1967. Then the media uses the excuse that its all part of the "vetting" process. But the only thing that gets 'vetted' out is the public trust in the process and the people.

05-08-2008, 05:30 PM	#1
blast2blaze All Pro Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Elmont, NY Posts: 1,059	McCain's "Spiritual Guide" Wants America to Destroy Islam [url]http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/38133-mccain-s-spiritual-guide-wants-america-to-destroy-islam[/url] wow

05-08-2008, 09:07 PM	#19
intelligentjetsfan All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,307	[QUOTE=MnJetFan;2530204]Obama spent 20 years in a church with this man and a number of years with admitted murderer. WTF is the difference.[/QUOTE] I think that this nonsense of judging a candidate's ability to be a commander in chief based on who he talked to in church or who he sat next to at a board meeting is ignorant. I feel the same way about McCain seeking the endorsement of that racist, hagee. They are both non-stories manipulated to play on prejudice and ignorance. But it will be hilarious in the summer and fall when the media turns their attention off of one idiotic story and to this idiotic one. What will be hilarious to watch will be all the mouth pieces on Fox Propaganda and EIB Klan Network as they tell us that the Rev. hagee situation is not important...[I]but[/I] still pay attention to rev. Wright. And then log on here to read the puppets mouth the same sentiments. :zzz::zzz::zzz: Last edited by intelligentjetsfan; 05-08-2008 at 09:14 PM.

05-08-2008, 09:22 PM	#20
intelligentjetsfan All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,307	[QUOTE=Smashmouth;2530217]These Presidential races are getting way the hell out of control. So much so that people dont even concentrate on the issues anymore. The concentrate on the trash. Good way to elect a president.:rolleyes:[/QUOTE] smashmouth, its done on purpose in the classic "divide and conquer" strategy. We have people running to their own corners instead of coming to the middle to find common ground. Instead of working together in the best interest of the country, we are purposely divided as a population. repubs vs dems, blacks vs whites, males vs females, old vs young, religion vs religion and so on. So we fight with each other, all the while taking our attention away from the people who have corrupted our country. God forbid, we discussed issues. We are trained through the 'dumbed-down" process of the main stream media to have short attention spans and to focus on gossip and nonsense. This is what passes as news in 2008. Instead of examing the role of the federal reserve in contributing to our national debt, we are fed stories about why a candidate doesn't wear a lapel pin or who he shared a coke with in 1978 :zzz::zzz: Instead of the media raising an honest debate about why we find ourselves in these same type of wars and nation building, we are given stories about a candidate who talked to someone who knew someone that committed a crime in 1967. Then the media uses the excuse that its all part of the "vetting" process. But the only thing that gets 'vetted' out is the public trust in the process and the people. Last edited by intelligentjetsfan; 05-08-2008 at 09:33 PM.

05-08-2008, 05:43 PM	#2
Jetsrush Drunk All League Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dump, Staten Island Posts: 2,771	[QUOTE=blast2blaze;2529956][url]http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/38133-mccain-s-spiritual-guide-wants-america-to-destroy-islam[/url] wow[/QUOTE] :zzz::zzz::zzz:

05-08-2008, 05:45 PM	#3
intelligentjetsfan All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,307	it will be funny to watch as this story about this lunatic picks up steam over the summer. watch as the same phonies that have done everything possible to brainwash Americans to think Obama and wright are one in the same, back peddle with this story. And before these hypocrites make excuses, all you have to know is that, unlike Obama, McCain actively[B] sought [/B]the recommendation of that nut job, Hagee.

05-08-2008, 06:19 PM	#4
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,272	Just goes to show you the most outspoken and politically active pundits are self serving, money and power hungry idiots. They use religion to make themselves important. They have no place in politics.

05-08-2008, 06:38 PM	#5
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,013	[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;2529974] McCain actively[B] sought [/B]the recommendation of that nut job, Hagee.[/QUOTE] Come on now. Actively seeking the endorsement of a crazed preacher who blames 9/11 on America certainly isn't as bad as getting married by a crazed preacher who blames 9/11 on America. I mean...hello. Obama belonged to his church for 20 years! That's crazy! And then Obama had the audacity to say that he didn't agree with EVERYTHING Wright said. How very typical of a politician. It's definitely a whole lot different than McCain actively seeking the endorsement of a preacher whom he shares no common veiws with, strictly for the purpose of scoring points with a voting base with no intentions whatsoever of actually forming policy that mirrors their veiws. That's different. That's Washington outsider-ish. What a maverick. What a breath of fresh air. He's anti-anti-anything-everything-nothing.

05-08-2008, 07:04 PM	#6
2foolish197 i suspect hanky-panky All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: astoria Posts: 4,528	[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;2529974]it will be funny to watch as this story about this lunatic picks up steam over the summer. watch as the same phonies that have done everything possible to brainwash Americans to think Obama and wright are one in the same, back peddle with this story. And before these hypocrites make excuses, all you have to know is that, unlike Obama, McCain actively[B] sought [/B]the recommendation of that nut job, Hagee.[/QUOTE] i'm cutting you off until you change that stupid, pretentious name that a psychologist would have a field day with that you gave yourself.i'll miss you.

05-08-2008, 07:05 PM	#7
2foolish197 i suspect hanky-panky All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: astoria Posts: 4,528	[QUOTE=cr726;2530000]Just goes to show you the most outspoken and politically active pundits are self serving, money and power hungry idiots. They use religion to make themselves important. They have no place in politics.[/QUOTE]yeah he sounds a little ripe but what are his connections to McCain.spiritual adviser?

05-08-2008, 07:06 PM	#8
2foolish197 i suspect hanky-panky All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: astoria Posts: 4,528	[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2530017]Come on now. Actively seeking the endorsement of a crazed preacher who blames 9/11 on America certainly isn't as bad as getting married by a crazed preacher who blames 9/11 on America. I mean...hello. Obama belonged to his church for 20 years! That's crazy! And then Obama had the audacity to say that he didn't agree with EVERYTHING Wright said. How very typical of a politician. It's definitely a whole lot different than McCain actively seeking the endorsement of a preacher whom he shares no common veiws with, strictly for the purpose of scoring points with a voting base with no intentions whatsoever of actually forming policy that mirrors their veiws. That's different. That's Washington outsider-ish. What a maverick. What a breath of fresh air. He's anti-anti-anything-everything-nothing.[/QUOTE]does McCain have any history with this guy?

05-08-2008, 07:22 PM	#9
David Harris All Pro Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Murray Hill Posts: 7,094	McCain shouldn't be judged on his association with this nutjob anymore than Obama should be judged on his association with his nutjob. Both relationships show poor decision making but it's stupid to hate on someone for what other people say or do.

05-08-2008, 07:29 PM	#10
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,013	[QUOTE=2foolish197;2530047]does McCain have any history with this guy?[/QUOTE] Doesn't matter. He sought the endorsement of a man who blames 9/11 on America. No matter how you slice it...he willingly associated with a crazed preacher...just as Obama has. Either it's wrong or it's not. Rationalizing it makes you see just as looney as those who wish to rationalize Obama's association with Wright. McCain knowingly AND willingly sought the endorsement of him. Willingly.

05-08-2008, 07:31 PM	#11
2foolish197 i suspect hanky-panky All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: astoria Posts: 4,528	[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2530082]Doesn't matter. He sought the endorsement of a man who blames 9/11 on America. No matter how you slice it...he willingly associated with a crazed preacher...just as Obama has. Either it's wrong or it's not. Rationalizing it makes you see just as looney as those who wish to rationalize Obama's association with Wright. McCain knowingly AND willingly sought the endorsement of him. Willingly.[/QUOTE] if thats the case i agree with you...

05-08-2008, 07:33 PM	#13
2foolish197 i suspect hanky-panky All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: astoria Posts: 4,528	[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;2530087]But I love the name you gave yourself.[/QUOTE] you didn't say you'll miss me...

05-08-2008, 07:35 PM	#14
intelligentjetsfan All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,307	[QUOTE=2foolish197;2530090]you didn't say you'll miss me...[/QUOTE] I will. I do enjoy the debates as I know its all in good fun.

05-08-2008, 07:37 PM	#15
2foolish197 i suspect hanky-panky All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: astoria Posts: 4,528	[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;2530093]I will. I do enjoy the debates as I know its all in good fun.[/QUOTE]hmmm...

05-08-2008, 08:00 PM	#16
Maury77 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,084	[QUOTE=David Harris;2530071]McCain shouldn't be judged on his association with this nutjob anymore than Obama should be judged on his association with his nutjob. Both relationships show poor decision making but it's stupid to hate on someone for what other people say or do.[/QUOTE] I agree. But then again, I am not going to vote for McCain because he tried to ban mixed martial arts 10 years ago. Yes, I am that out of my f*cking mind.

05-08-2008, 08:55 PM	#17
MnJetFan All League Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,302	[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;2529974]it will be funny to watch as this story about this lunatic picks up steam over the summer. watch as the same phonies that have done everything possible to brainwash Americans to think Obama and wright are one in the same, back peddle with this story. And before these hypocrites make excuses, all you have to know is that, unlike Obama, McCain actively[B] sought [/B]the recommendation of that nut job, Hagee.[/QUOTE] Obama spent 20 years in a church with this man and a number of years with admitted murderer. WTF is the difference.

05-08-2008, 09:05 PM	#18
Smashmouth Smashing....um.....Mouths. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas Via Brooklyn NY Posts: 3,159	These Presidential races are getting way the hell out of control. So much so that people dont even concentrate on the issues anymore. The concentrate on the trash. Good way to elect a president.:rolleyes: