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Energy Guzzled by Al(Fraud)Gore’s Home in Past Year Could Power 232 Homes for a Month
[url]http://tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=764[/url]
[QUOTE]Energy Guzzled by Al Gore’s Home in Past Year Could Power 232 U.S. Homes for a Month Gore’s personal electricity consumption up 10%, despite “energy-efficient” home renovations NASHVILLE - In the year since Al Gore took steps to make his home more energy-efficient, the former Vice President’s home energy use surged more than 10%, according to the Tennessee Center for Policy Research. “A man’s commitment to his beliefs is best measured by what he does behind the closed doors of his own home,” said Drew Johnson, President of the Tennessee Center for Policy Research. “Al Gore is a hypocrite and a fraud when it comes to his commitment to the environment, judging by his home energy consumption.” In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month. In February 2007, An Inconvenient Truth, a film based on a climate change speech developed by Gore, won an Academy Award for best documentary feature. The next day, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research uncovered that Gore’s Nashville home guzzled 20 times more electricity than the average American household. After the Tennessee Center for Policy Research exposed Gore’s massive home energy use, the former Vice President scurried to make his home more energy-efficient. Despite adding solar panels, installing a geothermal system, replacing existing light bulbs with more efficient models, and overhauling the home’s windows and ductwork, Gore now consumes more electricity than before the “green” overhaul. Since taking steps to make his home more environmentally-friendly last June, Gore devours an average of 17,768 kWh per month –1,638 kWh more energy per month than before the renovations – at a cost of $16,533. By comparison, the average American household consumes 11,040 kWh in an entire year, according to the Energy Information Administration. In the wake of becoming the most well-known global warming alarmist, Gore won an Oscar, a Grammy and the Nobel Peace Prize. In addition, [b]Gore saw his personal wealth increase by an estimated $100 million thanks largely to speaking fees and investments related to global warming hysteria. “Actions speak louder than words, and Gore’s actions prove that he views climate change not as a serious problem, but as a money-making opportunity,” Johnson said. “Gore is exploiting the public’s concern about the environment to line his pockets and enhance his profile.”[/b] The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, a Nashville-based free market think tank and watchdog organization, obtained information about Gore’s home energy use through a public records request to the Nashville Electric Service. The Tennessee Center for Policy Research is an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research organization committed to achieving a freer, more prosperous Tennessee through the ideas of liberty. Visit TCPR online at: [url]www.tennesseepolicy.org[/url].[/QUOTE] |
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Now that's An Inconvenient Truth right there.
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What a really bad article title.....
It should stick with apples to apples, and not try to overplay their case: [QUOTE]Energy Guzzled by Al Gore’s Home in Past Year Could Power 19 and 1/3 Homes for a Year.[/QUOTE] Much better. But this statement I DO agree with: [QUOTE]“Actions speak louder than words, and Gore’s actions prove that he views climate change not as a serious problem, but as a money-making opportunity,” Johnson said. “Gore is exploiting the public’s concern about the environment to line his pockets and enhance his profile.”[/QUOTE] |
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so refresh my memory what office does Al Gore hold?
why not start a thread about Dan Quayle? Who really cares what ex-VPs do with their lives, whether they are hypocrates or not. |
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[QUOTE=bitonti;2589483]so refresh my memory what office does Al Gore hold?[/quote]
I believe it's called "Senior Influential Democrat, Former Democrat VP, Democratic Power Broker and High Lord Climate Change Evangelist". [QUOTE=bitonti;2589483]Who really cares what ex-VPs do with their lives, whether they are hypocrates or not.[/QUOTE] Who cares? Almost every single registered Democrat, to start with. The Media, second. Hollywood, third. And quite a few Moderates too. Al Gore is the unquestionable face of the "War on Climate Change". Don't get mad at me because your poster boy for Climate Change responsabillity is a dishonest hypocrite. |
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fish you are overrating Gore's impact, even among democrats.
He made a movie, and won the Nobel prize - but end of the day his endorsement was meaningless. He's an egomaniac with no real power. |
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[QUOTE=bitonti;2589540]fish you are overrating Gore's impact, even among democrats.
He made a movie, and won the Nobel prize - but end of the day his endorsement was meaningless. He's an egomaniac with no real power.[/QUOTE]But he invented the internet! |
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[QUOTE=nationalist88;2589550]But he invented the internet![/QUOTE]
let me go one step further, he's also a loser. Does anyone care what Kerry or Dole says? What Dukakis says? no they are losers too. If Al Gore was a better quality human being, more likable etc, he might have been President and maybe this thread would be relevant. But he lost and he's a sideline player. Why not start a thread about Rush Limbaugh's drug addiction? They have about the same relevance. |
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I would be curious to know what Gores house uses in terms of energy compared to a home of similar size....
you can't really compare a large house like his to a 2 bedroom racnh...right? I get it that he could live in a smaller home, but the fact is he doesn't...so does his house use less energy than other homes of comprable size. that would be how to tell if he was truly a fraud.... |
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[QUOTE=bitonti;2589540]fish you are overrating Gore's impact, even among democrats.
He made a movie, and won the Nobel prize - but end of the day his endorsement was meaningless. He's an egomaniac with no real power.[/QUOTE] We'll have to agree to disagree then my friend. Best as I can tell, Gore still holds plenty of sway, and is plenty famous, respected and listened to in mancy circles. |
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What he is tryinng to say is Al Gore is a fraud pushing a bullcrap topic to make money and scare people. The scary thing is people really believe it!
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[QUOTE=MnJetFan;2589615]What he is tryinng to say is Al Gore is a fraud pushing a bullcrap topic to make money and scare people. The scary thing is people really believe it![/QUOTE]
that is propbably just a ridiculous claim...I mean, how is he making more money with this that he wouldn't be making on the run of the mil ex-politician book writing and lecture giving route? |
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What a fraud...
He should be publicly tar and feather'd |
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[QUOTE=piney;2589561]I would be curious to know what Gores house uses in terms of energy compared to a home of similar size....
you can't really compare a large house like his to a 2 bedroom racnh...right? I get it that he could live in a smaller home, but the fact is he doesn't...so does his house use less energy than other homes of comprable size. that would be how to tell if he was truly a fraud....[/QUOTE] House to house is irrelevant. The article is about to the energy consumption he is responsible for. You can't equate the gas consumption of a Hummer to a moped either, but you can certainly question the irresponsibility of one's choices. |
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[QUOTE=OrangeJet;2589641]House to house is irrelevant. The article is about to the energy consumption he is responsible for. You can't equate the gas consumption of a Hummer to a moped either, but you can certainly question the irresponsibility of one's choices.[/QUOTE]
house to house is exactly what this article was focusing on.. and the fact remains...if Al Gore decided to live in a smaller home and use less energy, would it have any impact at all? not really...so if he takes steps to limit his own consumption from what it could be compared to someone with a comparable lifestyle and he can influence more people like that to make the same adjustments..isn't that better? I mean, Gore could limit his own consumption by 80% by doing something no other wealthy person would do, which is live modestly, or he could limit his consumption by 15% and influence 1000 other wealthy people to do the same thing...therefore a larger net energy savings is achieved... so I think house to house is not irrelevant, unless Gore has made no effort in making his own home more energy efficient. |
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Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity...
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I'm sure fat al planted three dozen trees as carbon offsets, which he purchased from his company, to ease his conscience....
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[QUOTE=piney;2589685]house to house is exactly what this article was focusing on..
and the fact remains...if Al Gore decided to live in a smaller home and use less energy, would it have any impact at all? not really...so if he takes steps to limit his own consumption from what it could be compared to someone with a comparable lifestyle and he can influence more people like that to make the same adjustments..isn't that better? I mean, Gore could limit his own consumption by 80% by doing something no other wealthy person would do, which is live modestly, or he could limit his consumption by 15% and influence 1000 other wealthy people to do the same thing...therefore a larger net energy savings is achieved... so I think house to house is not irrelevant, unless Gore has made no effort in making his own home more energy efficient.[/QUOTE] I'm liberal but I totally disagree. Gore should be going out of his way to make his house as earth friendly as possible, solar panels, wind power, generate his own power, whatever. He set himself up for this attack and only has himself to blame. |
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[QUOTE=piney;2589685]not really...so if he takes steps to limit his own consumption from what it could be compared to someone with a comparable lifestyle and he can influence more people like that to make the same adjustments..isn't that better?[/QUOTE]
The trouble with this theory is that Gore is demanding, rather stridently, that WE must (not should, but must) change our lifestyles (us, the small-time plebs) in order to "stop Climate Change and save the World". So it's not just people of "comparative lifestyles" involved. Gore i demanding we plebs amke many small, but expensive and inconvenient changes to our pleb lives, whilst he consumes more energy that 20 other people. Worse yet, he makes money off the whole concept of Carbon Credits with some of his variety ofl personal holdings. I cannot image you don't see the inherant harm in that level of hypocricy. |
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[QUOTE=DeanPatsFan;2589361][url]http://tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=764[/url][/QUOTE]
Gore is the definition of a complete hypocrite!!!!! |
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[QUOTE=Warfish;2589953]The trouble with this theory is that Gore is demanding, rather stridently, that WE must (not should, but must) change our lifestyles (us, the small-time plebs) in order to "stop Climate Change and save the World".
So it's not just people of "comparative lifestyles" involved. Gore i demanding we plebs amke many small, but expensive and inconvenient changes to our pleb lives, whilst he consumes more energy that 20 other people. Worse yet, he makes money off the whole concept of Carbon Credits with some of his variety ofl personal holdings. I cannot image you don't see the inherant harm in that level of hypocricy.[/QUOTE] the porblem is, I have never seen Gore make any demands like you so dramatically point out. I see him saying that the population, as a whole, must do what they can to reverse the tide, but I have not seen one thing (and I have seen his movie) that supports your claim of his demanding people to change their lifestyle. He has given tips on how everyday americans can adjust their lifestyle to help aid the cause of global warming, I mean, that list of things that runs down the screen aren't demands, they are suggesttions. He has tried to be forceful in how governments can change things, that may be where his demand is, but not everyday people. Mind you, I do not believe in his "doom and gloom" prediction at all...I believe in finding alt sources and cutting down on energy consumption in order to save money..that is it.... I just find it funny how someone somewhere said Gore commanded his subjects to use on sheet of toilet paper, yet he lives in the lap of luxary running his own personal energy grid.... I don't mind the criticism, but lets not blow things out of proportion.... |
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