Matsui, Possible season ending surgery.

JV51 · 07-15-2008, 04:55 PM

Per M&Md.

ChadLover · 07-15-2008, 05:00 PM

That's a downer

JV51 · 07-15-2008, 05:02 PM

Maybe Yanks try and acquire Holliday? Ibanez? Bay?

ChadLover · 07-15-2008, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JV51

Maybe Yanks try and acquire Holliday? Ibanez? Bay?

Maybe...

Heard today that Mets turned down Holliday for Beltran?

JV51 · 07-15-2008, 05:06 PM

Rumor and like I said in another thread, I wouldn't trade Beltran for Fuentes, Holliday and Taveras.

Bay Ridge Jet · 07-15-2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChadLover

Maybe...

Heard today that Mets turned down Holliday for Beltran?

Link?

That would be so awful

Tony Danza · 07-15-2008, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Ridge Jet

Link?

That would be so awful

Heard the deal was Beltran and F-Mart for Holliday and Willy Taveras in the SI article. This one is a little different.

http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/15/b...lliday-market/

IM3 · 07-15-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Ridge Jet

Link?

That would be so awful

Awful?

Much easier to find a COF than a CF, most of Beltran's bvalue can't be found in the box score. His D is so effortless. We are not a better team with Holliday than Beltran

Bay Ridge Jet · 07-15-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by IM3

Awful?

Much easier to find a COF than a CF, most of Beltran's bvalue can't be found in the box score. His D is so effortless. We are not a better team with Holliday than Beltran

Awful for the Mets.

Holliday slugs .200 less on the road. I dont want him at his inflated value.

chad101 · 07-15-2008, 05:58 PM

No way we trade Beltran. Find out the deal with Church (although they probably know but won't tip their hands due to ongoing trade talks) and see if we can get a Juan Riveria, Marcus Thames type.

Ruby2 · 07-15-2008, 05:58 PM

So the Rox wont pay Holliday, but they will pay Beltran? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Pure bs speculation.

chad101 · 07-15-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruby2

So the Rox wont pay Holliday, but they will pay Beltran? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Pure bs speculation.

Well if the rumor was true the Rockies also get Felix Martinez. That is a big difference.

Rockies supposedly also want Niese from the Mets or Kennedy from the Yanks in a Fuentes deal.
Both NY clubs are not interested in those deals.
Kennedy gave up 4 runs in his last AAA start so Rasner's spot appears safe for now.

Ruby2 · 07-15-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chad101

Well if the rumor was true the Rockies also get Felix Martinez. That is a big difference.

Rockies supposedly also want Niese from the Mets or Kennedy from the Yanks in a Fuentes deal.
Both NY clubs are not interested in those deals.
Kennedy gave up 4 runs in his last AAA start so Rasner's spot appears safe for now.

Well that is a really big difference considering that Felix Martinez doesn't exist

chad101 · 07-15-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruby2

Well that is a really big difference considering that Felix Martinez doesn't exist

True. Fernando.

Tony Danza · 07-15-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chad101

Well if the rumor was true the Rockies also get Felix Martinez. That is a big difference.

Rockies supposedly also want Niese from the Mets or Kennedy from the Yanks in a Fuentes deal.
Both NY clubs are not interested in those deals.
Kennedy gave up 4 runs in his last AAA start so Rasner's spot appears safe for now.

Rasner is just as bad, they are screwed.

JeffWeaverFan · 07-15-2008, 09:50 PM

The Yankee offense was having trouble with Matsui. The funny thing that despite having Ponson and Rasner in the rotation, the pitching isn't the problem this year. It's the offense. Losing Matsui for the year (if that's the case), is going to just make sure that it doesn't get better.

DevsJetsYanks88 · 07-16-2008, 01:50 AM

Well this is a big blow if it is the case. He was having a very good year. Offense isn't looking good right now.

nyctomjetsfan · 07-16-2008, 06:55 PM

The Yankee FO needs to make the decision if the season is worth saving...

If the FO thinks the season is worth saving then they have to go after a big bat either Holliday or Teixeira...I prefer Teixeira for a number of reasons but i wouldn't mind either one...

Tyler Durden · 07-16-2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nyctomjetsfan

The Yankee FO needs to make the decision if the season is worth saving...

If the FO thinks the season is worth saving then they have to go after a big bat either Holliday or Teixeira...I prefer Teixeira for a number of reasons but i wouldn't mind either one...

It's not IMO

It's time for this team to get younger and build around a small core of veterans and young players.

A-Rod
Jeter
Posada
Rivera
Wang
Cano
Joba

I wouldn't mind letting the other veterans walk and or trade them.

nyctomjetsfan · 07-16-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyler Durden

It's not IMO

It's time for this team to get younger and build around a small core of veterans.

For the first time i agree with you...

It's time to rebuild, i don't think one big bat will make this a championship team...This team simply has way too many problems...If Cashman can get the Nady/Marte deal down for something reasonable then go ahead but other than that just play out the rest of the season with what you got...

07-15-2008, 04:55 PM	#1
JV51 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 11,025	Matsui, Possible season ending surgery. Per M&Md.

07-15-2008, 05:00 PM	#2
ChadLover All Pro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Monmouth County Posts: 2,137	That's a downer

07-15-2008, 05:02 PM	#3
JV51 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 11,025	Maybe Yanks try and acquire Holliday? Ibanez? Bay?

07-15-2008, 05:06 PM	#5
JV51 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 11,025	Rumor and like I said in another thread, I wouldn't trade Beltran for Fuentes, Holliday and Taveras.

07-15-2008, 05:58 PM	#10
chad101 Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,463	No way we trade Beltran. Find out the deal with Church (although they probably know but won't tip their hands due to ongoing trade talks) and see if we can get a Juan Riveria, Marcus Thames type.

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Ruby2 Patron and Grapefruit Juice Bitchess!!! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jerseystrong Posts: 17,012	So the Rox wont pay Holliday, but they will pay Beltran? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Pure bs speculation.

07-15-2008, 09:50 PM	#16
JeffWeaverFan All Pro Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 8,484	The Yankee offense was having trouble with Matsui. The funny thing that despite having Ponson and Rasner in the rotation, the pitching isn't the problem this year. It's the offense. Losing Matsui for the year (if that's the case), is going to just make sure that it doesn't get better.

07-16-2008, 01:50 AM	#17
DevsJetsYanks88 All Pro Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Jersey Posts: 7,409	Well this is a big blow if it is the case. He was having a very good year. Offense isn't looking good right now.

07-16-2008, 06:55 PM	#18
nyctomjetsfan Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,113	The Yankee FO needs to make the decision if the season is worth saving... If the FO thinks the season is worth saving then they have to go after a big bat either Holliday or Teixeira...I prefer Teixeira for a number of reasons but i wouldn't mind either one...