McCain gets Social Security - Page 2

Zombo · 07-22-2008, 04:03 PM

[QUOTE=cr726;2633175]He has the right to turn it down. He doesn't need it and he doesn't agree with SS, but yet he takes it. Ok.[/QUOTE]

you're not helping yourself. if he thinks ss is a bad idea, why would he not want to get his money back from something he doesn't want to pay into to begin with???? your argument is backwards.

Zombo · 07-22-2008, 04:07 PM

[QUOTE=cr726;2633669]Maybe he should pay his backtaxes on his property. A family worth over 100 million should be collecting the 23k. You got it.

I am not disgusted. I think it is pretty funny a multi-millionaire needs his SS check. If you pulled the check think he would of noticed?[/QUOTE]

that doesn't matter. it is HIS money. he paid it, so he should get it. only some tree hugging socialist would have issues with someone collecting what is rightfully theirs.

cr726 · 07-22-2008, 04:11 PM

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/United_States_one_dollar_bill,_obverse.jpg/800px-United_States_one_dollar_bill,_obverse.jpg[/IMG]If you look at a dollar bill what does it say on it?

[QUOTE=Zombo;2639817]that doesn't matter. it is HIS money. he paid it, so he should get it. only some tree hugging socialist would have issues with someone collecting what is rightfully theirs.[/QUOTE]

Winstonbiggs · 07-22-2008, 04:24 PM

If you believe the govenments job is wealth distribution we shouldn't have SS or a SS tax. Just means test it and pay it out of the general tax fund.

If your adjusted gross income is more than the average adjusted income for the country as a whole, you shouldn't be able to keep 1 dime of it.

chirorob · 07-22-2008, 04:35 PM

If he paid into it, why should he not collect it?

cr726 · 07-22-2008, 05:07 PM

I am sure you say the same thing when the woman in front of you uses her WIC card.
[QUOTE=chirorob;2639893]If he paid into it, why should he not collect it?[/QUOTE]

Winstonbiggs · 07-22-2008, 05:53 PM

[QUOTE=cr726;2639966]I am sure you say the same thing when the woman in front of you uses her WIC card.[/QUOTE]

Who should decide who gets SS and Medicare? The nice thing about ending the phony Democratic idea that these are paid in programs and it's our money is once they kill that nonesense, they can not only means test it but axempt every one whithout the means from paying into it. We can just call FICA welfare from now on.

chirorob · 07-22-2008, 06:39 PM

[QUOTE=cr726;2639966]I am sure you say the same thing when the woman in front of you uses her WIC card.[/QUOTE]

So your argument against him is that he is rich, and he probably paid too much money into it, so he's not entitled to receive the benefits?

Why do people act like having wealth is a bad thing? If making money is bad, why didn't Obama take all the proceeds from his book and donate to inner city youth in Chicago? There is nothing wrong with making money, and nothing wrong with collecting monies that you paid into.

Look, it's not a good system. But if you want only poor people to collect, why don't you just tell me how much I should give away a year to people who make less money than I do.

chirorob · 07-22-2008, 06:40 PM

[QUOTE=cr726;2639966]I am sure you say the same thing when the woman in front of you uses her WIC card.[/QUOTE]

What does that have to do with McCain collecting money that is owed him?

cr726 · 07-22-2008, 06:44 PM

If you see someone collecting welfare you assume they never paid in and do not deserve it.

[QUOTE=chirorob;2640086]What does that have to do with McCain collecting money that is owed him?[/QUOTE]

cr726 · 07-22-2008, 06:45 PM

Is it possible to pay too much money in SS? Don't think so big guy.

[QUOTE=chirorob;2640085]So your argument against him is that he is rich, and he probably paid too much money into it, so he's not entitled to receive the benefits?

Why do people act like having wealth is a bad thing? If making money is bad, why didn't Obama take all the proceeds from his book and donate to inner city youth in Chicago? There is nothing wrong with making money, and nothing wrong with collecting monies that you paid into.

Look, it's not a good system. But if you want only poor people to collect, why don't you just tell me how much I should give away a year to people who make less money than I do.[/QUOTE]

chirorob · 07-22-2008, 06:50 PM

[QUOTE=cr726;2640092]If you see someone collecting welfare you assume they never paid in and do not deserve it.[/QUOTE]

I never said that. What makes you think I never had to take advantage of WIC, and I've paid plenty in taxes. I just don't understand why you think McCain cashing his Social Security checks is a bad thing. Or why people act like being wealthy is a bad thing.

Phoenixx · 07-22-2008, 06:56 PM

[QUOTE=cr726;2640094]Is it possible to pay too much money in SS? Don't think so big guy.[/QUOTE]

Sure it is.

chirorob · 07-22-2008, 06:59 PM

[QUOTE=cr726;2640094]Is it possible to pay too much money in SS? Don't think so big guy.[/QUOTE]

If by paying in too much you mean that I pay in a lot, and then collect a proportionately small amount back, yeah then I think I'm paying too much.

cr726 · 07-22-2008, 09:12 PM

When did I say it was a bad thing? I simply said the guy doesn't even use his Senate salary because he married money and then add on his comments about SS. That's all.

[QUOTE=chirorob;2640105]I never said that. What makes you think I never had to take advantage of WIC, and I've paid plenty in taxes. I just don't understand why you think McCain cashing his Social Security checks is a bad thing. Or why people act like being wealthy is a bad thing.[/QUOTE]

Zombo · 07-23-2008, 11:24 AM

[QUOTE=cr726;2640424]When did I say it was a bad thing? I simply said the guy doesn't even use his Senate salary because he married money and then add on his comments about SS. That's all.[/QUOTE]

but that makes no sense. someone against social security is not going to then say that everyone else can have his money. it's his, he paid into it even though he didn't want to, so he's going to get his money back when it's time. who cares if he likes it or not. he put the money in, he deserves to get it back.

crazyeffinjetsfan · 07-23-2008, 11:27 AM

[QUOTE=cr726;2633175]He has the right to turn it down. He doesn't need it and he doesn't agree with SS, but yet he takes it. Ok.[/QUOTE]

It's HIS money, he paid into it, why shouldn't he take it?

The Dems are reaching.

ChadLover · 07-23-2008, 12:13 PM

Don't hate the playa, hate the game.

Sharrow · 07-24-2008, 01:52 AM

"Americans have got to understand that we are paying present-day retirees with the taxes paid by young workers in America today," he said. "And that's a disgrace. It's an absolute disgrace, and it's got to be fixed."

If he considers it money he put into it and duly his, then why would he make that statement? He implies that it hurts young working Americans unjustly when old people get paid out of SS yet he takes the check he doesn't need and in his opinion hurts young Americans himself anyway. Thats how I see it, anyway.

Come Back to NY · 07-24-2008, 11:29 AM

[QUOTE=Sharrow;2642561]"Americans have got to understand that we are paying present-day retirees with the taxes paid by young workers in America today," he said. "And that's a disgrace. It's an absolute disgrace, and it's got to be fixed."

If he considers it money he put into it and duly his, then why would he make that statement? He implies that it hurts young working Americans unjustly when old people get paid out of SS yet he takes the check he doesn't need and in his opinion hurts young Americans himself anyway. Thats how I see it, anyway.[/QUOTE]

of course you would see it that way.....

tell you what- give him back all the money he was forced to pay into the system then start to whine....

07-22-2008, 04:24 PM	#24
Winstonbiggs Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,908	If you believe the govenments job is wealth distribution we shouldn't have SS or a SS tax. Just means test it and pay it out of the general tax fund. If your adjusted gross income is more than the average adjusted income for the country as a whole, you shouldn't be able to keep 1 dime of it. Last edited by Winstonbiggs; 07-22-2008 at 04:29 PM.

07-22-2008, 04:03 PM	#21
Zombo Braylon Edwards is a sight for sore eyes after watching this mess of an offense. All League Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Elizabeth, NJ Posts: 3,393	[QUOTE=cr726;2633175]He has the right to turn it down. He doesn't need it and he doesn't agree with SS, but yet he takes it. Ok.[/QUOTE] you're not helping yourself. if he thinks ss is a bad idea, why would he not want to get his money back from something he doesn't want to pay into to begin with???? your argument is backwards.

07-22-2008, 04:07 PM	#22
Zombo Braylon Edwards is a sight for sore eyes after watching this mess of an offense. All League Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Elizabeth, NJ Posts: 3,393	[QUOTE=cr726;2633669]Maybe he should pay his backtaxes on his property. A family worth over 100 million should be collecting the 23k. You got it. I am not disgusted. I think it is pretty funny a multi-millionaire needs his SS check. If you pulled the check think he would of noticed?[/QUOTE] that doesn't matter. it is HIS money. he paid it, so he should get it. only some tree hugging socialist would have issues with someone collecting what is rightfully theirs.

07-22-2008, 04:11 PM	#23
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,272	[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/United_States_one_dollar_bill,_obverse.jpg/800px-United_States_one_dollar_bill,_obverse.jpg[/IMG]If you look at a dollar bill what does it say on it? [QUOTE=Zombo;2639817]that doesn't matter. it is HIS money. he paid it, so he should get it. only some tree hugging socialist would have issues with someone collecting what is rightfully theirs.[/QUOTE]

07-22-2008, 04:35 PM	#25
chirorob Draft the best available player. All Pro Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In transit Posts: 5,801	If he paid into it, why should he not collect it?

07-22-2008, 05:07 PM	#26
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,272	I am sure you say the same thing when the woman in front of you uses her WIC card. [QUOTE=chirorob;2639893]If he paid into it, why should he not collect it?[/QUOTE]

07-22-2008, 05:53 PM	#27
Winstonbiggs Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,908	[QUOTE=cr726;2639966]I am sure you say the same thing when the woman in front of you uses her WIC card.[/QUOTE] Who should decide who gets SS and Medicare? The nice thing about ending the phony Democratic idea that these are paid in programs and it's our money is once they kill that nonesense, they can not only means test it but axempt every one whithout the means from paying into it. We can just call FICA welfare from now on.

07-22-2008, 06:39 PM	#28
chirorob Draft the best available player. All Pro Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In transit Posts: 5,801	[QUOTE=cr726;2639966]I am sure you say the same thing when the woman in front of you uses her WIC card.[/QUOTE] So your argument against him is that he is rich, and he probably paid too much money into it, so he's not entitled to receive the benefits? Why do people act like having wealth is a bad thing? If making money is bad, why didn't Obama take all the proceeds from his book and donate to inner city youth in Chicago? There is nothing wrong with making money, and nothing wrong with collecting monies that you paid into. Look, it's not a good system. But if you want only poor people to collect, why don't you just tell me how much I should give away a year to people who make less money than I do.

07-22-2008, 06:40 PM	#29
chirorob Draft the best available player. All Pro Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In transit Posts: 5,801	[QUOTE=cr726;2639966]I am sure you say the same thing when the woman in front of you uses her WIC card.[/QUOTE] What does that have to do with McCain collecting money that is owed him?

07-22-2008, 06:44 PM	#30
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,272	If you see someone collecting welfare you assume they never paid in and do not deserve it. [QUOTE=chirorob;2640086]What does that have to do with McCain collecting money that is owed him?[/QUOTE]

07-22-2008, 06:45 PM	#31
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,272	Is it possible to pay too much money in SS? Don't think so big guy. [QUOTE=chirorob;2640085]So your argument against him is that he is rich, and he probably paid too much money into it, so he's not entitled to receive the benefits? Why do people act like having wealth is a bad thing? If making money is bad, why didn't Obama take all the proceeds from his book and donate to inner city youth in Chicago? There is nothing wrong with making money, and nothing wrong with collecting monies that you paid into. Look, it's not a good system. But if you want only poor people to collect, why don't you just tell me how much I should give away a year to people who make less money than I do.[/QUOTE]

07-22-2008, 06:50 PM	#32
chirorob Draft the best available player. All Pro Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In transit Posts: 5,801	[QUOTE=cr726;2640092]If you see someone collecting welfare you assume they never paid in and do not deserve it.[/QUOTE] I never said that. What makes you think I never had to take advantage of WIC, and I've paid plenty in taxes. I just don't understand why you think McCain cashing his Social Security checks is a bad thing. Or why people act like being wealthy is a bad thing.

07-22-2008, 06:56 PM	#33
Phoenixx Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fairfield County, CT Posts: 6,870	[QUOTE=cr726;2640094]Is it possible to pay too much money in SS? Don't think so big guy.[/QUOTE] Sure it is.

07-22-2008, 06:59 PM	#34
chirorob Draft the best available player. All Pro Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In transit Posts: 5,801	[QUOTE=cr726;2640094]Is it possible to pay too much money in SS? Don't think so big guy.[/QUOTE] If by paying in too much you mean that I pay in a lot, and then collect a proportionately small amount back, yeah then I think I'm paying too much.

07-22-2008, 09:12 PM	#35
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,272	When did I say it was a bad thing? I simply said the guy doesn't even use his Senate salary because he married money and then add on his comments about SS. That's all. [QUOTE=chirorob;2640105]I never said that. What makes you think I never had to take advantage of WIC, and I've paid plenty in taxes. I just don't understand why you think McCain cashing his Social Security checks is a bad thing. Or why people act like being wealthy is a bad thing.[/QUOTE]

07-23-2008, 11:24 AM	#36
Zombo Braylon Edwards is a sight for sore eyes after watching this mess of an offense. All League Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Elizabeth, NJ Posts: 3,393	[QUOTE=cr726;2640424]When did I say it was a bad thing? I simply said the guy doesn't even use his Senate salary because he married money and then add on his comments about SS. That's all.[/QUOTE] but that makes no sense. someone against social security is not going to then say that everyone else can have his money. it's his, he paid into it even though he didn't want to, so he's going to get his money back when it's time. who cares if he likes it or not. he put the money in, he deserves to get it back.

07-23-2008, 11:27 AM	#37
crazyeffinjetsfan feels like his head is in a popcorn machine. All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Middlesex County, NJ Posts: 3,305	[QUOTE=cr726;2633175]He has the right to turn it down. He doesn't need it and he doesn't agree with SS, but yet he takes it. Ok.[/QUOTE] It's HIS money, he paid into it, why shouldn't he take it? The Dems are reaching.

07-23-2008, 12:13 PM	#38
ChadLover All Pro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Monmouth County Posts: 2,137	Don't hate the playa, hate the game.

07-24-2008, 01:52 AM	#39
Sharrow Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,710	"Americans have got to understand that we are paying present-day retirees with the taxes paid by young workers in America today," he said. "And that's a disgrace. It's an absolute disgrace, and it's got to be fixed." If he considers it money he put into it and duly his, then why would he make that statement? He implies that it hurts young working Americans unjustly when old people get paid out of SS yet he takes the check he doesn't need and in his opinion hurts young Americans himself anyway. Thats how I see it, anyway.

07-24-2008, 11:29 AM	#40
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	[QUOTE=Sharrow;2642561]"Americans have got to understand that we are paying present-day retirees with the taxes paid by young workers in America today," he said. "And that's a disgrace. It's an absolute disgrace, and it's got to be fixed." If he considers it money he put into it and duly his, then why would he make that statement? He implies that it hurts young working Americans unjustly when old people get paid out of SS yet he takes the check he doesn't need and in his opinion hurts young Americans himself anyway. Thats how I see it, anyway.[/QUOTE] of course you would see it that way..... tell you what- give him back all the money he was forced to pay into the system then start to whine....