The Electoral Map

Tyler Durden · 09-21-2008, 05:29 PM

How is the map going to play out on November 4th?

Here is a website to do the calculation for you.

[url]http://opinionjournal.com/ecc/calculator.htm[/url]

Here is how I can see it play out.

[B]Obama wins:[/B]
Maine
Vermont
New Hampshire
Massachusetts
Connecticut
Rhode Island
New York
New Jersey
Pennsylvania
Delaware
Maryland
Washington D.C.
Illinois
Michigan
Minnesota
Iowa
Wisconsin
Washington
Oregon
Ohio
California
Colorado
Hawaii
New Mexico
[COLOR="Blue"][B]293 Electoral Votes[/B][/COLOR]

[B]McCain wins:[/B]
Indiana
West Virginia
Virginia
North Carolina
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida
Alabama
Tennessee
Kentucky
Mississippi
Louisiana
Texas
Oklahoma
Arkansas
Missouri
North Dakota
South Dakota
Nebraska
Kansas
Montana
Idaho
Utah
Wyoming
Nevada
Arizona
Alaska
[B][COLOR="Red"]245 Electoral Votes[/COLOR][/B]

McCain might pull out Ohio, but even if he does, Obama still wins 273-265.

Warfish · 09-21-2008, 05:46 PM

I'm calling Virginia right now.

Obama wins in a very tight race. NoVA pushes him over McCain.

As Virginia goes, as will go the Nation.

Begun, the Obamunist Revolution, has....

AlbanyJet · 09-21-2008, 05:48 PM

Tyler/Obama voters - please read attached AP-Yahoo/Stanford University poll and tell me what you think. It's pretty recent.

[url]http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20080920/AP.Yahoo.Poll.Obama.Race/[/url]

There's also another poll showing only 44% of American voters saying that Barack Obama is prepared to be President of the USA. The same poll American voters give John McCain 64%. The poll was in USA Today this past week.

These are two very telling polls, IMHO.

Ohio and Pennsylvania are heavily unionized. As are many mid-western states. Unions are heavily involved in the 'get-out-the-vote' operations. Unions like McCain/Palin. I'll find that poll for you if you want but the findings there are similar to the linked poll here.

:jets18

MachineGunFunk · 09-21-2008, 06:19 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;2762608]I'm calling Virginia right now.

Obama wins in a very tight race. NoVA pushes him over McCain.

As Virginia goes, as will go the Nation.

[B]Begun, the Obamunist Revolution, has...[/B].[/QUOTE]

"I don't believe it!"

"That... is why you failed"

AlbanyJet · 09-21-2008, 06:51 PM

[U]Key States Barack Obama Lost To Hillary Clinton:[/U]

Ohio, Michigan, Florida, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Nevada.

In Pennsylvania Obama outspent Hillary 3-1 but lost. He way outspent Hillary in other states and still managed to lose.

And the whole time I was watching the Democratic Primaries I'm thinking to myself "Why would anyone in these states ever vote for a carpet bagger, self-centered, say anything to get elected, hated by most members of her own political party, political w***e, Hillary Clinton?"

Yet she won them? Why?

[url]http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/zito/s_589297.html[/url]

:jets18

Das Ken · 09-22-2008, 03:12 AM

lol... this couldn't have gone in the polls thread?:P

But seriously, I'll go out and say that Obama wins 273-265. McCain can't take Pennsylvania but holds on to Virginia, Florida, Ohio, etc. Barack wins by pulling Colorado, NM and Iowa away from the GOP.

The polls have shown this to be a likely scenario and I simply don't think McCain has a shot at grabbing any of the upper Midwest. Pennsylvania has just enough cities to keep it from going right and the election will hinge on Colorado... which has been moving left for years as the entire hippie/stoner population slowly migrates to the rockies.

And I base this on how things have looked to me in the last few months, not just the last week that has been favorable to the Dems or the week before that where things look peachy for the GOP. My personal belief is that McCain will make an impact at the debates and unless he royally screws up he will most definitely receive a bounce from them. That, however, will fade down the stretch and the question will quickly become whether or not he received enough of a boost to grab the presidency.

BushyTheBeaver · 09-22-2008, 03:57 AM

Republican wins = confederate states
Democrat wins = union states

150 years later we're still fighting the Civil War.

Sharrow · 09-22-2008, 05:15 AM

It's going to suck if McCain wins Pennsylvania. For the last 7 years we've been teasing my brother who lives there about Bush winning Ohio twice. Payback is a *****.

AlbanyJet · 09-22-2008, 07:00 AM

[QUOTE=Sharrow;2763119]It's going to suck if McCain wins Pennsylvania. For the last 7 years we've been teasing my brother who lives there about Bush winning Ohio twice. Payback is a *****.[/QUOTE]

Edit: Michigan/Florida never had priamries.

Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Indiana - all likely McCain/[U]PALIN[/U] states. Florida to McCain, too.

:jets18

bitonti · 09-22-2008, 08:20 AM

[QUOTE=AlbanyJet;2763137]Edit: Michigan/Florida never had priamries.

Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Indiana - all likely McCain/[U]PALIN[/U] states. Florida to McCain, too.

:jets18[/QUOTE]

the AA vote in Philly will carry PA. Michigan is also going Blue.

Indiana goes red, Ohio is a true toss up, likely red. Florida goes red.

fukushimajin · 09-22-2008, 09:01 AM

[QUOTE=bitonti;2763184]the AA vote in Philly will carry PA. Michigan is also going Blue.

Indiana goes red, Ohio is a true toss up, likely red. Florida goes red.[/QUOTE]

I mostly agree, but I'm not so sure about Florida right now -- Palin is a disaster there (especially with older Jews) and when Obama starts running the ads about McCain's previous position on social security -- look out.

Also, AJ, there is no Union that is going to campaign for McCain Palin.

JCnflies · 09-22-2008, 06:22 PM

as of a couple of days ago, all indications were mccain is up in ohio, big, and up close in two or three other states.

Tyler Durden · 09-22-2008, 06:24 PM

[QUOTE=JCnflies;2764671]as of a couple of days ago, all indications were mccain is up in ohio, big, and up close in two or three other states.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.maristpoll.marist.edu/[/url]

[QUOTE][B][SIZE="4"]SUMMARY OF MARIST POLL FINDINGS: [/SIZE][/B]

[QUOTE][SIZE="3"][B]MICHIGAN:[/B][/SIZE]

[url]http://www.maristpoll.marist.edu/MIpolls/MI080919.htm[/url]

[B]BARACK OBAMA LEADS JOHN MCCAIN BY 9 PERCENTAGE POINTS IN THE WAKE OF NATION’S ECONOMIC CRISIS:
[/B]
In a survey conducted entirely after this week’s economic crisis hit, Senator Barack Obama leads Senator John McCain -- 50% to 41% -- among Michigan’s registered voters.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B][SIZE="3"]OHIO:[/SIZE][/B]

[url]http://www.maristpoll.marist.edu/OHpolls/OH080919.htm[/url]

[B]IT’S A TOSSUP: [/B]

44% of Ohio’s registered voters say they support Senator Barack Obama -- the same proportion who backs Senator John McCain. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE][B][SIZE="3"]PENNSYLVANIA:[/SIZE][/B]

[url]http://www.maristpoll.marist.edu/PApolls/PA080919.htm[/url]

[B]TIGHT RACE...EDGE TO OBAMA:[/B]

45% of Pennsylvania’s registered voters support Barack Obama for president while 42% are behind John McCain. Likely voters in the state give Obama the advantage over McCain -- 49% to 44%.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

Come Back to NY · 09-22-2008, 06:26 PM

[QUOTE=JCnflies;2764671]as of a couple of days ago, all indications were mccain is up in ohio, big, and up close in two or three other states.[/QUOTE]

the alien will just use polls which further his cause- as though any of this matters now....

person · 09-22-2008, 06:27 PM

[QUOTE=bitonti;2763184]the AA vote in Philly will carry PA. Michigan is also going Blue.

Indiana goes red, Ohio is a true toss up, likely red. Florida goes red.[/QUOTE]

agreed.

Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania will remain blue states...If Ohio and Florida remain red...the election becomes, in my opinion, about Colorado and New Hampshire.

Come Back to NY · 09-22-2008, 06:33 PM

[QUOTE=person;2764690]agreed.

Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania will remain blue states...If Ohio and Florida remain red...the election becomes, in my opinion, about Colorado and New Hampshire.[/QUOTE]

if Florida remains red, which it will, and Ohio remains red, then it comes down to Colorado with no need for NH....

AlbanyJet · 09-22-2008, 06:35 PM

If John McCain can refrain from being an over-aggressive jerk in the debate on Friday night, Obama will lose the debate & election and these polls can be discarded on the floor.

:jets18

Tyler Durden · 09-22-2008, 06:39 PM

[QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2764685]the alien will just use polls which further his cause- as though any of this matters now....[/QUOTE]

Your pathetic attempt to get under my skin has and will not work. I'm very proud of where I am from, and nothing will change that, and I'm sure you ancestors felt the same. I also grateful to live in this beautiful country and am in currently in the middle of the naturalization process. So piss off.

Tyler Durden · 09-22-2008, 06:40 PM

[QUOTE=AlbanyJet;2764707]If John McCain can refrain from being an over-aggressive jerk in the debate on Friday night, Obama will lose the debate & election and these polls can be discarded on the floor.

:jets18[/QUOTE]

LOL.. it will be that simple?

Come Back to NY · 09-22-2008, 06:43 PM

[QUOTE=Tyler Durden;2764714]Your pathetic attempt to get under my skin has and will not work. I'm very proud of where I am from, and nothing will change that, and I'm sure you ancestors felt the same. I also grateful to live in this beautiful country and am in currently in the middle of the naturalization process. So piss off.[/QUOTE]

still doesn't answer the issue you use polls spoonfed to you by leftist sites to further your cause and dismiss the majority of other polls...never mind the fact this means jacksh!t at this point....

but please- go on with another meaningless rant...

09-21-2008, 05:29 PM	#1
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	The Electoral Map How is the map going to play out on November 4th? Here is a website to do the calculation for you. [url]http://opinionjournal.com/ecc/calculator.htm[/url] Here is how I can see it play out. [B]Obama wins:[/B] Maine Vermont New Hampshire Massachusetts Connecticut Rhode Island New York New Jersey Pennsylvania Delaware Maryland Washington D.C. Illinois Michigan Minnesota Iowa Wisconsin Washington Oregon Ohio California Colorado Hawaii New Mexico [COLOR="Blue"][B]293 Electoral Votes[/B][/COLOR] [B]McCain wins:[/B] Indiana West Virginia Virginia North Carolina South Carolina Georgia Florida Alabama Tennessee Kentucky Mississippi Louisiana Texas Oklahoma Arkansas Missouri North Dakota South Dakota Nebraska Kansas Montana Idaho Utah Wyoming Nevada Arizona Alaska [B][COLOR="Red"]245 Electoral Votes[/COLOR][/B] McCain might pull out Ohio, but even if he does, Obama still wins 273-265. Last edited by Tyler Durden; 09-21-2008 at 05:34 PM.

09-21-2008, 06:51 PM	#5
AlbanyJet All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,623	[U]Key States Barack Obama Lost To Hillary Clinton:[/U] Ohio, Michigan, Florida, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Nevada. In Pennsylvania Obama outspent Hillary 3-1 but lost. He way outspent Hillary in other states and still managed to lose. And the whole time I was watching the Democratic Primaries I'm thinking to myself "Why would anyone in these states ever vote for a carpet bagger, self-centered, say anything to get elected, hated by most members of her own political party, political w**e, Hillary Clinton?" Yet she won them? Why? [url]http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/zito/s_589297.html[/url] :jets18 Last edited by AlbanyJet; 09-21-2008 at 06:54 PM.*

09-21-2008, 05:46 PM	#2
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	I'm calling Virginia right now. Obama wins in a very tight race. NoVA pushes him over McCain. As Virginia goes, as will go the Nation. Begun, the Obamunist Revolution, has....

09-21-2008, 05:48 PM	#3
AlbanyJet All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,623	Tyler/Obama voters - please read attached AP-Yahoo/Stanford University poll and tell me what you think. It's pretty recent. [url]http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20080920/AP.Yahoo.Poll.Obama.Race/[/url] There's also another poll showing only 44% of American voters saying that Barack Obama is prepared to be President of the USA. The same poll American voters give John McCain 64%. The poll was in USA Today this past week. These are two very telling polls, IMHO. Ohio and Pennsylvania are heavily unionized. As are many mid-western states. Unions are heavily involved in the 'get-out-the-vote' operations. Unions like McCain/Palin. I'll find that poll for you if you want but the findings there are similar to the linked poll here. :jets18

09-21-2008, 06:19 PM	#4
MachineGunFunk All Pro Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,176	[QUOTE=Warfish;2762608]I'm calling Virginia right now. Obama wins in a very tight race. NoVA pushes him over McCain. As Virginia goes, as will go the Nation. [B]Begun, the Obamunist Revolution, has...[/B].[/QUOTE] "I don't believe it!" "That... is why you failed"

09-22-2008, 03:12 AM	#6
Das Ken Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Red Bank Posts: 214	lol... this couldn't have gone in the polls thread?:P But seriously, I'll go out and say that Obama wins 273-265. McCain can't take Pennsylvania but holds on to Virginia, Florida, Ohio, etc. Barack wins by pulling Colorado, NM and Iowa away from the GOP. The polls have shown this to be a likely scenario and I simply don't think McCain has a shot at grabbing any of the upper Midwest. Pennsylvania has just enough cities to keep it from going right and the election will hinge on Colorado... which has been moving left for years as the entire hippie/stoner population slowly migrates to the rockies. And I base this on how things have looked to me in the last few months, not just the last week that has been favorable to the Dems or the week before that where things look peachy for the GOP. My personal belief is that McCain will make an impact at the debates and unless he royally screws up he will most definitely receive a bounce from them. That, however, will fade down the stretch and the question will quickly become whether or not he received enough of a boost to grab the presidency.

09-22-2008, 03:57 AM	#7
BushyTheBeaver size matters All League Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,922	Republican wins = confederate states Democrat wins = union states 150 years later we're still fighting the Civil War.

09-22-2008, 05:15 AM	#8
Sharrow Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,710	It's going to suck if McCain wins Pennsylvania. For the last 7 years we've been teasing my brother who lives there about Bush winning Ohio twice. Payback is a *****.

09-22-2008, 07:00 AM	#9
AlbanyJet All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,623	[QUOTE=Sharrow;2763119]It's going to suck if McCain wins Pennsylvania. For the last 7 years we've been teasing my brother who lives there about Bush winning Ohio twice. Payback is a *****.[/QUOTE] Edit: Michigan/Florida never had priamries. Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Indiana - all likely McCain/[U]PALIN[/U] states. Florida to McCain, too. :jets18

09-22-2008, 08:20 AM	#10
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	[QUOTE=AlbanyJet;2763137]Edit: Michigan/Florida never had priamries. Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Indiana - all likely McCain/[U]PALIN[/U] states. Florida to McCain, too. :jets18[/QUOTE] the AA vote in Philly will carry PA. Michigan is also going Blue. Indiana goes red, Ohio is a true toss up, likely red. Florida goes red.

09-22-2008, 09:01 AM	#11
fukushimajin All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,130	[QUOTE=bitonti;2763184]the AA vote in Philly will carry PA. Michigan is also going Blue. Indiana goes red, Ohio is a true toss up, likely red. Florida goes red.[/QUOTE] I mostly agree, but I'm not so sure about Florida right now -- Palin is a disaster there (especially with older Jews) and when Obama starts running the ads about McCain's previous position on social security -- look out. Also, AJ, there is no Union that is going to campaign for McCain Palin.

09-22-2008, 06:22 PM	#12
JCnflies All Pro Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,709	as of a couple of days ago, all indications were mccain is up in ohio, big, and up close in two or three other states.

09-22-2008, 06:24 PM	#13
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	[QUOTE=JCnflies;2764671]as of a couple of days ago, all indications were mccain is up in ohio, big, and up close in two or three other states.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.maristpoll.marist.edu/[/url] [QUOTE][B][SIZE="4"]SUMMARY OF MARIST POLL FINDINGS: [/SIZE][/B] [QUOTE][SIZE="3"][B]MICHIGAN:[/B][/SIZE] [url]http://www.maristpoll.marist.edu/MIpolls/MI080919.htm[/url] [B]BARACK OBAMA LEADS JOHN MCCAIN BY 9 PERCENTAGE POINTS IN THE WAKE OF NATION’S ECONOMIC CRISIS: [/B] In a survey conducted entirely after this week’s economic crisis hit, Senator Barack Obama leads Senator John McCain -- 50% to 41% -- among Michigan’s registered voters. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE][B][SIZE="3"]OHIO:[/SIZE][/B] [url]http://www.maristpoll.marist.edu/OHpolls/OH080919.htm[/url] [B]IT’S A TOSSUP: [/B] 44% of Ohio’s registered voters say they support Senator Barack Obama -- the same proportion who backs Senator John McCain. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE][B][SIZE="3"]PENNSYLVANIA:[/SIZE][/B] [url]http://www.maristpoll.marist.edu/PApolls/PA080919.htm[/url] [B]TIGHT RACE...EDGE TO OBAMA:[/B] 45% of Pennsylvania’s registered voters support Barack Obama for president while 42% are behind John McCain. Likely voters in the state give Obama the advantage over McCain -- 49% to 44%.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

09-22-2008, 06:26 PM	#14
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	[QUOTE=JCnflies;2764671]as of a couple of days ago, all indications were mccain is up in ohio, big, and up close in two or three other states.[/QUOTE] the alien will just use polls which further his cause- as though any of this matters now....

09-22-2008, 06:27 PM	#15
person All Pro Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 975	[QUOTE=bitonti;2763184]the AA vote in Philly will carry PA. Michigan is also going Blue. Indiana goes red, Ohio is a true toss up, likely red. Florida goes red.[/QUOTE] agreed. Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania will remain blue states...If Ohio and Florida remain red...the election becomes, in my opinion, about Colorado and New Hampshire.

09-22-2008, 06:33 PM	#16
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	[QUOTE=person;2764690]agreed. Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania will remain blue states...If Ohio and Florida remain red...the election becomes, in my opinion, about Colorado and New Hampshire.[/QUOTE] if Florida remains red, which it will, and Ohio remains red, then it comes down to Colorado with no need for NH....

09-22-2008, 06:35 PM	#17
AlbanyJet All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,623	If John McCain can refrain from being an over-aggressive jerk in the debate on Friday night, Obama will lose the debate & election and these polls can be discarded on the floor. :jets18

09-22-2008, 06:39 PM	#18
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	[QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2764685]the alien will just use polls which further his cause- as though any of this matters now....[/QUOTE] Your pathetic attempt to get under my skin has and will not work. I'm very proud of where I am from, and nothing will change that, and I'm sure you ancestors felt the same. I also grateful to live in this beautiful country and am in currently in the middle of the naturalization process. So piss off.

09-22-2008, 06:40 PM	#19
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	[QUOTE=AlbanyJet;2764707]If John McCain can refrain from being an over-aggressive jerk in the debate on Friday night, Obama will lose the debate & election and these polls can be discarded on the floor. :jets18[/QUOTE] LOL.. it will be that simple?

09-22-2008, 06:43 PM	#20
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	[QUOTE=Tyler Durden;2764714]Your pathetic attempt to get under my skin has and will not work. I'm very proud of where I am from, and nothing will change that, and I'm sure you ancestors felt the same. I also grateful to live in this beautiful country and am in currently in the middle of the naturalization process. So piss off.[/QUOTE] still doesn't answer the issue you use polls spoonfed to you by leftist sites to further your cause and dismiss the majority of other polls...never mind the fact this means jacksh!t at this point.... but please- go on with another meaningless rant...