Murphklecko's take on this election/Future.

murphklecko73 · 10-21-2008, 02:10 PM

I have a 18 year old son graduating high school this june. He really does not know what he wants to do either go to college ( he has not picked a major), go into the services ( army, marines, navy) or possibly just get a job. I do not like the Service part ( with the shape of everything who would want their kid to go over seas with all the shyt that is going on ) or the work part. What is he going to do, be a waiter, work in a retail store???? But he really has no direction as far as what he wants to do with a career. I explained to him he can take liberal arts and accumulate credits till he figures it out but I do not think he really wants to do that. Now I speak to him about the upcoming election... Out of the mouth of babe my parents would say he tells me the first election he can vote he is skipping. His excuse is the If Obama wins there is a good chance some White supremest will try or succeed in assassinating him and Biden would be president. ( he know nothing about Biden). If McClain is wins he is to old to run the country and is most likely going to kick the bucket and the a barbie doll is going to run the country.. Now before you crap on me for going thru the trouble of typing all of this out, I DO NOT AGREE WITH THESE STATEMENTS.. But it does bring up a very interesting point of view, the view of this countries youth.... I mean it is scary. This is coming from a mind mannered kid who is being raised in a upper middle class household with mostly Democratic beliefs...We are a very strong union family for 3 generations...It is just something to think about. He has explained to me they speak about this in school all the time and many kids and evidentally teachers feel the same way....

chesapeakejet · 10-21-2008, 02:30 PM

He should talk to my daughter (or maybe he shouldn't ;) ), she is anything but undecided. Raised in a Middle Income Moderate Republican household, she just voted by absentee ballot for Obama. Her future is into Marine Biology and she believes in protecting our environment for our own good. And even though she and I don't see eye to eye on everything, I am very proud of her ideals, passion and commitment. I have a close friend whose 2 sons go to a private college. They are all very conservative Republicans and my friend goes on and on about how his sons are making money day trading in the stock market. I had to chuckle and when he asked me why, I told him "My daughter is working hard so that your rich sons can have a place to fish."

Call me old and delusional, but I'll take principles and ideals over materialistic greed anyday. :)

murphklecko73 · 10-21-2008, 03:43 PM

I totally agree. I myself look at things very pessimistically since the crash of Enron..On the 23rd of this month I would be retiring from the big E...I lost all of my $$$$$ plus 16 years of hard earned work....I will probably never see a dime of what I am owed.. ( The class action suit is a joke) Instead of being set at 43 and working towards a 2nd pension i started over 5 years ago.....It makes me sick to think about what my 2 kids are going to have to deal with...

chesapeakejet · 10-21-2008, 03:44 PM

[QUOTE=murphklecko73;2816797]I totally agree. I myself look at things very pessimistically since the crash of Enron..On the 23rd of this month I would be retiring from the big E...I lost all of my $$$$$ plus 16 years of hard earned work....I will probably never see a dime of what I am owed.. ( The class action suit is a joke) Instead of being set at 43 and working towards a 2nd pension i started over 5 years ago.....It makes me sick to think about what my 2 kids are going to have to deal with...[/QUOTE]

Sorry to hear that. That really sucks. :(

murphklecko73 · 10-21-2008, 03:46 PM

Yea Thursday if I am a little moody around here do not be alarmed it is me just venting............

bitonti · 10-21-2008, 04:04 PM

everyone is a little retarded at 18 years of age. I know I was.

JetsFan2012 · 10-21-2008, 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=bitonti;2816838]everyone is a little retarded at 18 years of age. I know I was.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but most people grow out of it.

;)

bitonti · 10-21-2008, 04:32 PM

[QUOTE=pauliec;2816863]Yeah, but most people grow out of it.

[/QUOTE]

hey i walked into that one - i set em up you knock em down

NIGHT STALKER · 10-21-2008, 06:13 PM

[QUOTE=murphklecko73;2816624]I have a 18 year old son graduating high school this june. He really does not know what he wants to do either go to college ( he has not picked a major), go into the services ( army, marines, navy) or possibly just get a job. I do not like the Service part ( with the shape of everything who would want their kid to go over seas with all the shyt that is going on ) or the work part. What is he going to do, be a waiter, work in a retail store???? But he really has no direction as far as what he wants to do with a career. I explained to him he can take liberal arts and accumulate credits till he figures it out but I do not think he really wants to do that. Now I speak to him about the upcoming election... Out of the mouth of babe my parents would say he tells me the first election he can vote he is skipping. His excuse is the If Obama wins there is a good chance some White supremest will try or succeed in assassinating him and Biden would be president. ( he know nothing about Biden). If McClain is wins he is to old to run the country and is most likely going to kick the bucket and the a barbie doll is going to run the country.. Now before you crap on me for going thru the trouble of typing all of this out, I DO NOT AGREE WITH THESE STATEMENTS.. But it does bring up a very interesting point of view, the view of this countries youth.... I mean it is scary. This is coming from a mind mannered kid who is being raised in a upper middle class household with mostly Democratic beliefs...We are a very strong union family for 3 generations...It is just something to think about. He has explained to me they speak about this in school all the time and many kids and evidentally teachers feel the same way....[/QUOTE]

Murph, I think I met you last year at one of the 16H tailgates. The only advice I can give you is have your son stay clear of the military in the next few years...especially the Army and the Marines.

VincenzoTestaverde · 10-21-2008, 06:45 PM

I feel for your son if he enlists in the Army or Marines and McSame wins the election. Get ready for at least 2-3 deployments to Iraq in the next 4 years.

murphklecko73 · 10-21-2008, 06:48 PM

of course I am trying to sway him away from the services at this point in time. but we will see what happens...It just scared me to think that allot of kids think the way he is about the election and the candidates.

NIGHT STALKER · 10-21-2008, 06:48 PM

[QUOTE=VincenzoTestaverde;2817050]I feel for your son if he enlists in the Army or Marines and McSame wins the election. Get ready for at least 2-3 deployments to Iraq in the next 4 years.[/QUOTE]

2-3 years in Iraq??? Got news for you...an Obama win ensures a draft...bank it!

murphklecko73 · 10-21-2008, 06:59 PM

Do you guys feel majority of your guys/gals feel like my son does?????they are actually expecting someone to try to assassinate Obama,that is sooo crazy that it is expected....it is scary. I personally do not like either guy but i guess I will go for the lesser of two evils as they say.... I am just shocked that kids are thinking like this in school

VincenzoTestaverde · 10-21-2008, 07:00 PM

[QUOTE=NIGHT STALKER;2817056]2-3 years in Iraq??? Got news for you...an Obama win ensures a draft...bank it![/QUOTE]

Uh.. ok.

cr726 · 10-21-2008, 08:20 PM

It is def. a tough time to be a parent, if there is a easy time. I will speak from my experience, when I was 18 I did not know what I wanted to do at all. I worked in the Summer as a laborer and decided I will be going to college ASAP.
Your son's experience will hopefully steer him into a job he really wants to do or he will continue to work towards attaining a job he wants to do.

[QUOTE=murphklecko73;2816624]I have a 18 year old son graduating high school this june. He really does not know what he wants to do either go to college ( he has not picked a major), go into the services ( army, marines, navy) or possibly just get a job. I do not like the Service part ( with the shape of everything who would want their kid to go over seas with all the shyt that is going on ) or the work part. What is he going to do, be a waiter, work in a retail store???? But he really has no direction as far as what he wants to do with a career. I explained to him he can take liberal arts and accumulate credits till he figures it out but I do not think he really wants to do that. Now I speak to him about the upcoming election... Out of the mouth of babe my parents would say he tells me the first election he can vote he is skipping. His excuse is the If Obama wins there is a good chance some White supremest will try or succeed in assassinating him and Biden would be president. ( he know nothing about Biden). If McClain is wins he is to old to run the country and is most likely going to kick the bucket and the a barbie doll is going to run the country.. Now before you crap on me for going thru the trouble of typing all of this out, I DO NOT AGREE WITH THESE STATEMENTS.. But it does bring up a very interesting point of view, the view of this countries youth.... I mean it is scary. This is coming from a mind mannered kid who is being raised in a upper middle class household with mostly Democratic beliefs...We are a very strong union family for 3 generations...It is just something to think about. He has explained to me they speak about this in school all the time and many kids and evidentally teachers feel the same way....[/QUOTE]

cr726 · 10-21-2008, 08:21 PM

I am surprised by your answer or should I say surprised that feel that way.

Your draft prediction is pretty funny.

[QUOTE=NIGHT STALKER;2817009]Murph, I think I met you last year at one of the 16H tailgates. The only advice I can give you is have your son stay clear of the military in the next few years...especially the Army and the Marines.[/QUOTE]

FF2® · 10-21-2008, 09:36 PM

[QUOTE=murphklecko73;2817075]Do you guys feel majority of your guys/gals feel like my son does?????they are actually expecting someone to try to assassinate Obama,that is sooo crazy that it is expected....it is scary. I personally do not like either guy but i guess I will go for the lesser of two evils as they say.... I am just shocked that kids are thinking like this in school[/QUOTE]

We all have to try and remeber what we were like at that age.

murphklecko73 · 10-21-2008, 10:14 PM

yea I guess so, but it is hard to get by now with the economy the way it is can you imagine just starting out now.

BushyTheBeaver · 10-21-2008, 10:28 PM

[QUOTE=murphklecko73;2817388]yea I guess so, but it is hard to get by now with the economy the way it is can you imagine just starting out now.[/QUOTE]

This isn't a bad time to be starting out. There are a lot of ways your son could go. Working for a few years could let him save a little money, learn the value of school, and enter it more mature and ready to learn. Or he could mix working with some courses at the local community college. One thing a lot of people don't think about--if you put off full-time college until you're 21 you're no longer a dependent of your parents and you should qualify for much better financial aid.

Stan Blinka · 10-21-2008, 10:32 PM

Although my kid is only 17 it's kinda refreshing to hear his thoughts on the election.

10-21-2008, 02:10 PM	#1
murphklecko73 Praying for a win Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Troop 16H MEMBER Posts: 2,511	Murphklecko's take on this election/Future. I have a 18 year old son graduating high school this june. He really does not know what he wants to do either go to college ( he has not picked a major), go into the services ( army, marines, navy) or possibly just get a job. I do not like the Service part ( with the shape of everything who would want their kid to go over seas with all the shyt that is going on ) or the work part. What is he going to do, be a waiter, work in a retail store???? But he really has no direction as far as what he wants to do with a career. I explained to him he can take liberal arts and accumulate credits till he figures it out but I do not think he really wants to do that. Now I speak to him about the upcoming election... Out of the mouth of babe my parents would say he tells me the first election he can vote he is skipping. His excuse is the If Obama wins there is a good chance some White supremest will try or succeed in assassinating him and Biden would be president. ( he know nothing about Biden). If McClain is wins he is to old to run the country and is most likely going to kick the bucket and the a barbie doll is going to run the country.. Now before you crap on me for going thru the trouble of typing all of this out, I DO NOT AGREE WITH THESE STATEMENTS.. But it does bring up a very interesting point of view, the view of this countries youth.... I mean it is scary. This is coming from a mind mannered kid who is being raised in a upper middle class household with mostly Democratic beliefs...We are a very strong union family for 3 generations...It is just something to think about. He has explained to me they speak about this in school all the time and many kids and evidentally teachers feel the same way.... Last edited by murphklecko73; 10-21-2008 at 02:13 PM.

10-21-2008, 06:48 PM	#12
NIGHT STALKER a bandwagon Jets fan since 1963 All Pro Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,031	[QUOTE=VincenzoTestaverde;2817050]I feel for your son if he enlists in the Army or Marines and McSame wins the election. Get ready for at least 2-3 deployments to Iraq in the next 4 years.[/QUOTE] 2-3 years in Iraq??? Got news for you...an Obama win ensures a draft...bank it! Last edited by NIGHT STALKER; 10-21-2008 at 06:52 PM.

10-21-2008, 02:30 PM	#2
chesapeakejet is a geek who loves football boardgames. Schluberator & Gadfly ® Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 24,503	He should talk to my daughter (or maybe he shouldn't ;) ), she is anything but undecided. Raised in a Middle Income Moderate Republican household, she just voted by absentee ballot for Obama. Her future is into Marine Biology and she believes in protecting our environment for our own good. And even though she and I don't see eye to eye on everything, I am very proud of her ideals, passion and commitment. I have a close friend whose 2 sons go to a private college. They are all very conservative Republicans and my friend goes on and on about how his sons are making money day trading in the stock market. I had to chuckle and when he asked me why, I told him "My daughter is working hard so that your rich sons can have a place to fish." Call me old and delusional, but I'll take principles and ideals over materialistic greed anyday. :)

10-21-2008, 03:43 PM	#3
murphklecko73 Praying for a win Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Troop 16H MEMBER Posts: 2,511	I totally agree. I myself look at things very pessimistically since the crash of Enron..On the 23rd of this month I would be retiring from the big E...I lost all of my $$$$$ plus 16 years of hard earned work....I will probably never see a dime of what I am owed.. ( The class action suit is a joke) Instead of being set at 43 and working towards a 2nd pension i started over 5 years ago.....It makes me sick to think about what my 2 kids are going to have to deal with...

10-21-2008, 03:44 PM	#4
chesapeakejet is a geek who loves football boardgames. Schluberator & Gadfly ® Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 24,503	[QUOTE=murphklecko73;2816797]I totally agree. I myself look at things very pessimistically since the crash of Enron..On the 23rd of this month I would be retiring from the big E...I lost all of my $$$$$ plus 16 years of hard earned work....I will probably never see a dime of what I am owed.. ( The class action suit is a joke) Instead of being set at 43 and working towards a 2nd pension i started over 5 years ago.....It makes me sick to think about what my 2 kids are going to have to deal with...[/QUOTE] Sorry to hear that. That really sucks. :(

10-21-2008, 03:46 PM	#5
murphklecko73 Praying for a win Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Troop 16H MEMBER Posts: 2,511	Yea Thursday if I am a little moody around here do not be alarmed it is me just venting............

10-21-2008, 04:04 PM	#6
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	everyone is a little retarded at 18 years of age. I know I was.

10-21-2008, 04:22 PM	#7
JetsFan2012 Waterboy Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 0	[QUOTE=bitonti;2816838]everyone is a little retarded at 18 years of age. I know I was.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but most people grow out of it. ;)

10-21-2008, 04:32 PM	#8
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	[QUOTE=pauliec;2816863]Yeah, but most people grow out of it. [/QUOTE] hey i walked into that one - i set em up you knock em down

10-21-2008, 06:13 PM	#9
NIGHT STALKER a bandwagon Jets fan since 1963 All Pro Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,031	[QUOTE=murphklecko73;2816624]I have a 18 year old son graduating high school this june. He really does not know what he wants to do either go to college ( he has not picked a major), go into the services ( army, marines, navy) or possibly just get a job. I do not like the Service part ( with the shape of everything who would want their kid to go over seas with all the shyt that is going on ) or the work part. What is he going to do, be a waiter, work in a retail store???? But he really has no direction as far as what he wants to do with a career. I explained to him he can take liberal arts and accumulate credits till he figures it out but I do not think he really wants to do that. Now I speak to him about the upcoming election... Out of the mouth of babe my parents would say he tells me the first election he can vote he is skipping. His excuse is the If Obama wins there is a good chance some White supremest will try or succeed in assassinating him and Biden would be president. ( he know nothing about Biden). If McClain is wins he is to old to run the country and is most likely going to kick the bucket and the a barbie doll is going to run the country.. Now before you crap on me for going thru the trouble of typing all of this out, I DO NOT AGREE WITH THESE STATEMENTS.. But it does bring up a very interesting point of view, the view of this countries youth.... I mean it is scary. This is coming from a mind mannered kid who is being raised in a upper middle class household with mostly Democratic beliefs...We are a very strong union family for 3 generations...It is just something to think about. He has explained to me they speak about this in school all the time and many kids and evidentally teachers feel the same way....[/QUOTE] Murph, I think I met you last year at one of the 16H tailgates. The only advice I can give you is have your son stay clear of the military in the next few years...especially the Army and the Marines.

10-21-2008, 06:45 PM	#10
VincenzoTestaverde laughing at the Pledge Against America Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 9,162	I feel for your son if he enlists in the Army or Marines and McSame wins the election. Get ready for at least 2-3 deployments to Iraq in the next 4 years.

10-21-2008, 06:59 PM	#13
murphklecko73 Praying for a win Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Troop 16H MEMBER Posts: 2,511	Do you guys feel majority of your guys/gals feel like my son does?????they are actually expecting someone to try to assassinate Obama,that is sooo crazy that it is expected....it is scary. I personally do not like either guy but i guess I will go for the lesser of two evils as they say.... I am just shocked that kids are thinking like this in school

10-21-2008, 07:00 PM	#14
VincenzoTestaverde laughing at the Pledge Against America Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 9,162	[QUOTE=NIGHT STALKER;2817056]2-3 years in Iraq??? Got news for you...an Obama win ensures a draft...bank it![/QUOTE] Uh.. ok.

10-21-2008, 08:20 PM	#15
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,295	It is def. a tough time to be a parent, if there is a easy time. I will speak from my experience, when I was 18 I did not know what I wanted to do at all. I worked in the Summer as a laborer and decided I will be going to college ASAP. Your son's experience will hopefully steer him into a job he really wants to do or he will continue to work towards attaining a job he wants to do. [QUOTE=murphklecko73;2816624]I have a 18 year old son graduating high school this june. He really does not know what he wants to do either go to college ( he has not picked a major), go into the services ( army, marines, navy) or possibly just get a job. I do not like the Service part ( with the shape of everything who would want their kid to go over seas with all the shyt that is going on ) or the work part. What is he going to do, be a waiter, work in a retail store???? But he really has no direction as far as what he wants to do with a career. I explained to him he can take liberal arts and accumulate credits till he figures it out but I do not think he really wants to do that. Now I speak to him about the upcoming election... Out of the mouth of babe my parents would say he tells me the first election he can vote he is skipping. His excuse is the If Obama wins there is a good chance some White supremest will try or succeed in assassinating him and Biden would be president. ( he know nothing about Biden). If McClain is wins he is to old to run the country and is most likely going to kick the bucket and the a barbie doll is going to run the country.. Now before you crap on me for going thru the trouble of typing all of this out, I DO NOT AGREE WITH THESE STATEMENTS.. But it does bring up a very interesting point of view, the view of this countries youth.... I mean it is scary. This is coming from a mind mannered kid who is being raised in a upper middle class household with mostly Democratic beliefs...We are a very strong union family for 3 generations...It is just something to think about. He has explained to me they speak about this in school all the time and many kids and evidentally teachers feel the same way....[/QUOTE]

10-21-2008, 08:21 PM	#16
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,295	I am surprised by your answer or should I say surprised that feel that way. Your draft prediction is pretty funny. [QUOTE=NIGHT STALKER;2817009]Murph, I think I met you last year at one of the 16H tailgates. The only advice I can give you is have your son stay clear of the military in the next few years...especially the Army and the Marines.[/QUOTE]

10-21-2008, 09:36 PM	#17
FF2® Believes Sloppy Guy was involved JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 46,164	[QUOTE=murphklecko73;2817075]Do you guys feel majority of your guys/gals feel like my son does?????they are actually expecting someone to try to assassinate Obama,that is sooo crazy that it is expected....it is scary. I personally do not like either guy but i guess I will go for the lesser of two evils as they say.... I am just shocked that kids are thinking like this in school[/QUOTE] We all have to try and remeber what we were like at that age.

10-21-2008, 10:14 PM	#18
murphklecko73 Praying for a win Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Troop 16H MEMBER Posts: 2,511	yea I guess so, but it is hard to get by now with the economy the way it is can you imagine just starting out now.

10-21-2008, 10:28 PM	#19
BushyTheBeaver size matters All League Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,922	[QUOTE=murphklecko73;2817388]yea I guess so, but it is hard to get by now with the economy the way it is can you imagine just starting out now.[/QUOTE] This isn't a bad time to be starting out. There are a lot of ways your son could go. Working for a few years could let him save a little money, learn the value of school, and enter it more mature and ready to learn. Or he could mix working with some courses at the local community college. One thing a lot of people don't think about--if you put off full-time college until you're 21 you're no longer a dependent of your parents and you should qualify for much better financial aid.

10-21-2008, 10:32 PM	#20
Stan Blinka Strip Club in TAMPA time! All Pro Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Winter Springs, Fl Posts: 1,348	Although my kid is only 17 it's kinda refreshing to hear his thoughts on the election.