OT: Fireplace Etiquette Help Needed

SAR I · 12-07-2008, 11:06 PM

For the past 12 years I've had a fireplace screen that was one of those non-installed, stand-up folding types. Just sort of stands up on its own, bends in two spots, simple. Looked like this:

[IMG]http://www.gascoals.net/Portals/1/Pilgrim%2010-13-05/FS8-3430.jpg[/IMG]

Today I put in an installed screen/glass door combo that allows no airspace, locks nice and tight, keeps all the cinders from jumping out, you get the idea. Looks like this:

[IMG]http://www.fireplaceguys.com/Fireplace_Doors/portland_5700_bs__2_.jpg[/IMG]

Question: When the fire dies out, what do you do with a fully-installed glass door system?

With my old cheap folding screen, I'd get a pitcher of water and douse the hot embers to cool them off, wait an hour, and close the flu. Didn't want any sparks to fly out accidentally when I went to sleep.

Do I have to do the same thing with the new glass door install? Or does simply shutting the glass doors tight and leaving the flu open eliminate the stress of a problem after we're all asleep? Instead of putting some water on them, let them burn out naturally, up the open flu, shut it down in the morning?

TIA

SAR I

Jets Things · 12-07-2008, 11:09 PM

Close the doors, let the embers die out on their own, close the flue in the morning.

SAR I · 12-07-2008, 11:10 PM

[QUOTE=Jets Things;2899502]Close the doors, let the embers die out on their own, close the flue in the morning.[/QUOTE]

Really that simple?

SAR I

32green · 12-07-2008, 11:13 PM

[QUOTE=SAR I;2899505]Really that simple?

SAR I[/QUOTE]

Works for me.

Jets Things · 12-07-2008, 11:14 PM

[QUOTE=SAR I;2899505]Really that simple?

SAR I[/QUOTE]

Used to do it all the time when I had the installed doors. Moved in August and fireplace is too big for built-in doors so we have a huge screen and I still let the embers burn out and close the flue in the morning.

JetsFan2012 · 12-07-2008, 11:16 PM

SAR, you actually build a fire yourself, and stress out about stray embers? How... pedestrian.

[IMG]http://www.showroom411.com/Media/Category/Gas%20Fireplace.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.jdswallow.com/060~Fireplaces/Top_Vent_Gas_Fireplace.jpeg[/IMG]

Gas fireplace. On and off with a flick of a switch. As long as you can move your index finger, you can "build" a fire, and extinguish it just as quickly. The heat comes out evenly and comfortably warm through the front vents.

SAR I · 12-07-2008, 11:18 PM

[QUOTE=Jets Things;2899513]Used to do it all the time when I had the installed doors. Moved in August and fireplace is too big for built-in doors so we have a huge screen and I still let the embers burn out and close the flue in the morning.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=32green;2899512]Works for me.[/QUOTE]

If the embers are still smoldering a bit and I'd prefer to close the flue so as to avoid a bit of a draft, is that okay?

SAR I

SAR I · 12-07-2008, 11:21 PM

[QUOTE=pauliec;2899518]SAR, you actually build a fire yourself, and stress out about stray embers? How... pedestrian.

Gas fireplace. On and off with a flick of a switch. As long as you can move your index finger, you can "build" a fire, and extinguish it just as quickly. The heat comes out evenly and comfortably warm through the front vents.[/QUOTE]

While things like washing my own car or cutting my own grass are beneath me, there's something rugged about making a fire, getting the wood, piling it on, jostling it a bit, and putting it out. Something very earthy about it. From the moment I purchase the shrink wrapped wood and the Duraflame logs at the grocery store to the moment I close the flue and say 'good night', it's like I'm a woodsman out with the grizzlies.

SAR I

Vinny Patrollie · 12-07-2008, 11:21 PM

[QUOTE=SAR I;2899524]If the embers are still smoldering a bit and I'd prefer to close the flue so as to avoid a bit of a draft, is that okay?

SAR I[/QUOTE]
To answer that properly, you need to measure the exact distance between your big toe and the embers. Report back.

JetsFan2012 · 12-07-2008, 11:22 PM

[QUOTE=SAR I;2899533]While things like washing my own car or cutting my own grass are beneath me, there's something rugged about making a fire, getting the wood, piling it on, jostling it a bit, and putting it out. Something very earthy about it. From the moment I purchase the shrink wrapped wood and the Duraflame logs at the grocery store to the moment I close the flue and say 'good night', it's like I'm a woodsman out with the grizzlies.

SAR I[/QUOTE]

Indeed, you're a regular Davey Crockett.

Jets Things · 12-07-2008, 11:25 PM

[QUOTE=SAR I;2899524]If the embers are still smoldering a bit and I'd prefer to close the flue so as to avoid a bit of a draft, is that okay?

SAR I[/QUOTE]

Don't close it all the way until morning. Leave it open a crack at the least.

12-07-2008, 11:26 PM

Is this some twisted metaphor for the NY Jets team?

For the past 12 years I've had a [B]Jets team[/B] that was one of those non-installed, stand-up folding types. Just sort of stands up on its own, bends in two spots, simple. Looked like this:

[IMG]http://www.newyorkjets.com/image_assets/1012/robertson_dewayne.jpg[/IMG]

Today I put in an installed combo that allows no airspace, locks nice and tight, keeps all the cinders from jumping out, you get the idea. Looks like this:

[IMG]http://www.carolinagrowl.com/Images/mugs/jenkins-kris.jpg[/IMG]

Question: When the fire dies out, what do you do with a fully-installed glass door system?

With my old cheap folding screen, I'd get a pitcher of water and douse the hot embers to cool them off, wait an hour, and close the flu. Didn't want any sparks to fly out accidentally when I went to sleep.

Do I have to do the same thing with the new install? Or does simply shutting the doors tight and leaving the flu open eliminate the stress of a problem after we're all asleep? Instead of putting some water on them, let them burn out naturally, up the open flu, shut it down in the morning?

SAR I · 12-07-2008, 11:30 PM

[QUOTE=pauliec;2899537]Indeed, you're a regular Davey Crockett.[/QUOTE]

The hard part is picking these puppies up by those little cloth handles. That can really wreck the manicure.

[IMG]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2155/2263054339_0a1c773680.jpg[/IMG]

SAR I

SAR I · 12-07-2008, 11:31 PM

[QUOTE=Vinny Patrollie;2899534]To answer that properly, you need to measure the exact distance between your big toe and the embers. Report back.[/QUOTE]

Someone tell Patrollie that I thought that was funny. Would do so myself, if I were talking to him.

SAR I

SAR I · 12-07-2008, 11:32 PM

[QUOTE=bandwagon;2899545]Is this some twisted metaphor for the NY Jets team?

For the past 12 years I've had a [B]Jets team[/B] that was one of those non-installed, stand-up folding types. Just sort of stands up on its own, bends in two spots, simple. Looked like this:

[IMG]http://www.newyorkjets.com/image_assets/1012/robertson_dewayne.jpg[/IMG]

Today I put in an installed combo that allows no airspace, locks nice and tight, keeps all the cinders from jumping out, you get the idea. Looks like this:

[IMG]http://www.carolinagrowl.com/Images/mugs/jenkins-kris.jpg[/IMG]

[/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n114/srubenst/laughter.gif[/IMG]

Now [I]that's [/I]funny. Made a rough night better. Gracias.

SAR I

Dcat · 12-07-2008, 11:52 PM

[QUOTE=SAR I;2899524]If the embers are still smoldering a bit and I'd prefer to close the flue so as to avoid a bit of a draft, is that okay?

SAR I[/QUOTE]

NO. Carbonmonoxide from those embers. Can be harmful or worse. Close the flue in the morning. That's how I've always done it with screen or glass doors.

Timmy® · 12-08-2008, 07:11 AM

[QUOTE=Dcat;2899575]NO. Carbonmonoxide from those embers. Can be harmful or worse. Close the flue in the morning. That's how I've always done it with screen or glass doors.[/QUOTE]

Good advice. I live in a log cabin with fireplaces and a wood burning furnace.Never close the flue while a fire is still smoldering. Carbon monoxide could build up.

As for leaving it open a crack, I don't know. I say wait until next morning just to be on the safe side. Otherwise, make sure you've got carbon monoxide detectors throughout the house.

Timmy® · 12-08-2008, 07:17 AM

[QUOTE=pauliec;2899518]IMG]

Gas fireplace. On and off with a flick of a switch. [/QUOTE]

Pshaw-gas fireplaces are for unmanly homos

JETranger 206B · 12-08-2008, 07:26 AM

Leave the flue open, close the doors and any vents on them. The closed doors should pretty much eliminate any drafts.

Johnny Bravo · 12-08-2008, 07:51 AM

SAR my friend, you have disappointed me. I would think you would have had one of these.

[IMG]http://spln.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p2267081dt.jpg[/IMG]

12-07-2008, 11:06 PM	#1
SAR I is excitedly looking forward to December22, the last home game, The Rexecution Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 38,694	OT: Fireplace Etiquette Help Needed For the past 12 years I've had a fireplace screen that was one of those non-installed, stand-up folding types. Just sort of stands up on its own, bends in two spots, simple. Looked like this: [IMG]http://www.gascoals.net/Portals/1/Pilgrim%2010-13-05/FS8-3430.jpg[/IMG] Today I put in an installed screen/glass door combo that allows no airspace, locks nice and tight, keeps all the cinders from jumping out, you get the idea. Looks like this: [IMG]http://www.fireplaceguys.com/Fireplace_Doors/portland_5700_bs__2_.jpg[/IMG] Question: When the fire dies out, what do you do with a fully-installed glass door system? With my old cheap folding screen, I'd get a pitcher of water and douse the hot embers to cool them off, wait an hour, and close the flu. Didn't want any sparks to fly out accidentally when I went to sleep. Do I have to do the same thing with the new glass door install? Or does simply shutting the glass doors tight and leaving the flu open eliminate the stress of a problem after we're all asleep? Instead of putting some water on them, let them burn out naturally, up the open flu, shut it down in the morning? TIA SAR I

12-07-2008, 11:09 PM	#2
Jets Things All Pro Join Date: May 2003 Location: 742 Evergreen Terrace Posts: 9,406	Close the doors, let the embers die out on their own, close the flue in the morning.

12-07-2008, 11:10 PM	#3
SAR I is excitedly looking forward to December22, the last home game, The Rexecution Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 38,694	[QUOTE=Jets Things;2899502]Close the doors, let the embers die out on their own, close the flue in the morning.[/QUOTE] Really that simple? SAR I

12-07-2008, 11:13 PM	#4
32green The original road-kill pus slurper. MMMmmm pus. Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The depths of Despair. Posts: 37,672	[QUOTE=SAR I;2899505]Really that simple? SAR I[/QUOTE] Works for me.

12-07-2008, 11:14 PM	#5
Jets Things All Pro Join Date: May 2003 Location: 742 Evergreen Terrace Posts: 9,406	[QUOTE=SAR I;2899505]Really that simple? SAR I[/QUOTE] Used to do it all the time when I had the installed doors. Moved in August and fireplace is too big for built-in doors so we have a huge screen and I still let the embers burn out and close the flue in the morning.

12-07-2008, 11:16 PM	#6
JetsFan2012 Waterboy Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 0	SAR, you actually build a fire yourself, and stress out about stray embers? How... pedestrian. [IMG]http://www.showroom411.com/Media/Category/Gas%20Fireplace.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.jdswallow.com/060~Fireplaces/Top_Vent_Gas_Fireplace.jpeg[/IMG] Gas fireplace. On and off with a flick of a switch. As long as you can move your index finger, you can "build" a fire, and extinguish it just as quickly. The heat comes out evenly and comfortably warm through the front vents.

12-07-2008, 11:18 PM	#7
SAR I is excitedly looking forward to December22, the last home game, The Rexecution Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 38,694	[QUOTE=Jets Things;2899513]Used to do it all the time when I had the installed doors. Moved in August and fireplace is too big for built-in doors so we have a huge screen and I still let the embers burn out and close the flue in the morning.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=32green;2899512]Works for me.[/QUOTE] If the embers are still smoldering a bit and I'd prefer to close the flue so as to avoid a bit of a draft, is that okay? SAR I

12-07-2008, 11:21 PM	#8
SAR I is excitedly looking forward to December22, the last home game, The Rexecution Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 38,694	[QUOTE=pauliec;2899518]SAR, you actually build a fire yourself, and stress out about stray embers? How... pedestrian. Gas fireplace. On and off with a flick of a switch. As long as you can move your index finger, you can "build" a fire, and extinguish it just as quickly. The heat comes out evenly and comfortably warm through the front vents.[/QUOTE] While things like washing my own car or cutting my own grass are beneath me, there's something rugged about making a fire, getting the wood, piling it on, jostling it a bit, and putting it out. Something very earthy about it. From the moment I purchase the shrink wrapped wood and the Duraflame logs at the grocery store to the moment I close the flue and say 'good night', it's like I'm a woodsman out with the grizzlies. SAR I

12-07-2008, 11:21 PM	#9
Vinny Patrollie wicked smaht and onto your tricks Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,894	[QUOTE=SAR I;2899524]If the embers are still smoldering a bit and I'd prefer to close the flue so as to avoid a bit of a draft, is that okay? SAR I[/QUOTE] To answer that properly, you need to measure the exact distance between your big toe and the embers. Report back.

12-07-2008, 11:22 PM	#10
JetsFan2012 Waterboy Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 0	[QUOTE=SAR I;2899533]While things like washing my own car or cutting my own grass are beneath me, there's something rugged about making a fire, getting the wood, piling it on, jostling it a bit, and putting it out. Something very earthy about it. From the moment I purchase the shrink wrapped wood and the Duraflame logs at the grocery store to the moment I close the flue and say 'good night', it's like I'm a woodsman out with the grizzlies. SAR I[/QUOTE] Indeed, you're a regular Davey Crockett.

12-07-2008, 11:25 PM	#11
Jets Things All Pro Join Date: May 2003 Location: 742 Evergreen Terrace Posts: 9,406	[QUOTE=SAR I;2899524]If the embers are still smoldering a bit and I'd prefer to close the flue so as to avoid a bit of a draft, is that okay? SAR I[/QUOTE] Don't close it all the way until morning. Leave it open a crack at the least.

12-07-2008, 11:26 PM	#12
bandwagon Edit Status Guest Posts: n/a	Is this some twisted metaphor for the NY Jets team? For the past 12 years I've had a [B]Jets team[/B] that was one of those non-installed, stand-up folding types. Just sort of stands up on its own, bends in two spots, simple. Looked like this: [IMG]http://www.newyorkjets.com/image_assets/1012/robertson_dewayne.jpg[/IMG] Today I put in an installed combo that allows no airspace, locks nice and tight, keeps all the cinders from jumping out, you get the idea. Looks like this: [IMG]http://www.carolinagrowl.com/Images/mugs/jenkins-kris.jpg[/IMG] Question: When the fire dies out, what do you do with a fully-installed glass door system? With my old cheap folding screen, I'd get a pitcher of water and douse the hot embers to cool them off, wait an hour, and close the flu. Didn't want any sparks to fly out accidentally when I went to sleep. Do I have to do the same thing with the new install? Or does simply shutting the doors tight and leaving the flu open eliminate the stress of a problem after we're all asleep? Instead of putting some water on them, let them burn out naturally, up the open flu, shut it down in the morning?

12-07-2008, 11:30 PM	#13
SAR I is excitedly looking forward to December22, the last home game, The Rexecution Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 38,694	[QUOTE=pauliec;2899537]Indeed, you're a regular Davey Crockett.[/QUOTE] The hard part is picking these puppies up by those little cloth handles. That can really wreck the manicure. [IMG]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2155/2263054339_0a1c773680.jpg[/IMG] SAR I

12-07-2008, 11:31 PM	#14
SAR I is excitedly looking forward to December22, the last home game, The Rexecution Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 38,694	[QUOTE=Vinny Patrollie;2899534]To answer that properly, you need to measure the exact distance between your big toe and the embers. Report back.[/QUOTE] Someone tell Patrollie that I thought that was funny. Would do so myself, if I were talking to him. SAR I

12-07-2008, 11:32 PM	#15
SAR I is excitedly looking forward to December22, the last home game, The Rexecution Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 38,694	[QUOTE=bandwagon;2899545]Is this some twisted metaphor for the NY Jets team? For the past 12 years I've had a [B]Jets team[/B] that was one of those non-installed, stand-up folding types. Just sort of stands up on its own, bends in two spots, simple. Looked like this: [IMG]http://www.newyorkjets.com/image_assets/1012/robertson_dewayne.jpg[/IMG] Today I put in an installed combo that allows no airspace, locks nice and tight, keeps all the cinders from jumping out, you get the idea. Looks like this: [IMG]http://www.carolinagrowl.com/Images/mugs/jenkins-kris.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n114/srubenst/laughter.gif[/IMG] Now [I]that's [/I]funny. Made a rough night better. Gracias. SAR I

12-07-2008, 11:52 PM	#16
Dcat I think I see one Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 8,095	[QUOTE=SAR I;2899524]If the embers are still smoldering a bit and I'd prefer to close the flue so as to avoid a bit of a draft, is that okay? SAR I[/QUOTE] NO. Carbonmonoxide from those embers. Can be harmful or worse. Close the flue in the morning. That's how I've always done it with screen or glass doors.

12-08-2008, 07:11 AM	#17
Timmy® JI's own Reverend Jim. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 23,479	[QUOTE=Dcat;2899575]NO. Carbonmonoxide from those embers. Can be harmful or worse. Close the flue in the morning. That's how I've always done it with screen or glass doors.[/QUOTE] Good advice. I live in a log cabin with fireplaces and a wood burning furnace.Never close the flue while a fire is still smoldering. Carbon monoxide could build up. As for leaving it open a crack, I don't know. I say wait until next morning just to be on the safe side. Otherwise, make sure you've got carbon monoxide detectors throughout the house.

12-08-2008, 07:17 AM	#18
Timmy® JI's own Reverend Jim. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 23,479	[QUOTE=pauliec;2899518]IMG] Gas fireplace. On and off with a flick of a switch. [/QUOTE] Pshaw-gas fireplaces are for unmanly homos

12-08-2008, 07:26 AM	#19
JETranger 206B Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Jersey shore Posts: 2,010	Leave the flue open, close the doors and any vents on them. The closed doors should pretty much eliminate any drafts.

12-08-2008, 07:51 AM	#20
Johnny Bravo SNUBBED! Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 10,693	SAR my friend, you have disappointed me. I would think you would have had one of these. [IMG]http://spln.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p2267081dt.jpg[/IMG]