True Christians Against Christmas

long island leprechaun · 12-10-2008, 06:11 PM

You know, every good idea those pesky athiests come up with to attack those superstitious Christians seems to come from the horse's mouth.... Sorry, guys, you'll have to put away all that tinsel and those flashing lights. It's all off limits to a true Christian....

[url]http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/christm3.htm[/url]

BrooklynBound · 12-10-2008, 06:21 PM

Christmas is a materialistic sham. It would be heaps better if gifts weren't part of the equation.

Thanksgiving >>> Christmas

cr726 · 12-10-2008, 07:47 PM

Now that you are over 20 and have no kids. Christmas is about the kids. Let them believe there are good people in world, besides their parents.

[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2904120]Christmas is a materialistic sham. It would be heaps better if gifts weren't part of the equation.

Thanksgiving >>> Christmas[/QUOTE]

BrooklynBound · 12-10-2008, 07:53 PM

[QUOTE=cr726;2904220]Now that you are over 20 and have no kids. Christmas is about the kids. Let them believe there are good people in world, besides their parents.[/QUOTE]

For most Americans, it's about getting sh*t. Gimme gimme gimme. No one can deny how materialistic our society has become. We rack up credit card debt for short-term gratification. Christmas is that personified.

cr726 · 12-10-2008, 07:56 PM

I can't argue with you, but once you have kids it changes.

[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2904239]For most Americans, it's about getting sh*t. Gimme gimme gimme. No one can deny how materialistic our society has become. We rack up credit card debt for short-term gratification. Christmas is that personified.[/QUOTE]

BrooklynBound · 12-10-2008, 08:03 PM

[QUOTE=cr726;2904248]I can't argue with you, but once you have kids it changes.[/QUOTE]

And not necessarily for the better. I think we'd be better off with another Thanksgiving instead of Christmas.

long island leprechaun · 12-10-2008, 08:19 PM

Hey, BB, Christmas has another name: "stimulus package!" :D

cr726 · 12-10-2008, 08:23 PM

Did you love T-day as a 8 year old kid? Sitting around with grown ups and eating?

[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2904263]And not necessarily for the better. I think we'd be better off with another Thanksgiving instead of Christmas.[/QUOTE]

BrooklynBound · 12-10-2008, 08:34 PM

[QUOTE=cr726;2904301]Did you love T-day as a 8 year old kid? Sitting around with grown ups and eating?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, getting **** for Christmas made me such a better person.

ReleasetheAnimal · 12-10-2008, 08:37 PM

[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2904322]Yeah, getting **** for Christmas made me such a better person.[/QUOTE]

Man, you are no fun.

cr726 · 12-10-2008, 08:40 PM

What are you talking about? I asked a simple question and it has nothing to do with being a better person.

Wow.

[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2904322]Yeah, getting **** for Christmas made me such a better person.[/QUOTE]

BrooklynBound · 12-10-2008, 08:43 PM

[QUOTE=cr726;2904331]What are you talking about? I asked a simple question and it has nothing to do with being a better person.

Wow.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I loved it at the time. But I was a kid, and didn't know jack ****. If kids ruled the world, we'd sit around all day watching cartoons.

Enjoying presents as a kid doesn't mean that Christmas wouldn't be better off with less materialism.

FF2® · 12-10-2008, 09:10 PM

There's nothing wrong with a few gifts for kids. But people overdo it. Ruins everything.

sackdance · 12-10-2008, 09:23 PM

[QUOTE=FF2®;2904388]But people overdo it. Ruins everything.[/QUOTE]
This also aptly describes the 1000th religious thread in a Politics/World Events forum. Unlike probably most every media outlet and discussion forum on the Internet, JI seems far more interested in the "War Against Christmas, version 20.08" than in the intrigue surrounding a governor caught by the FBI trying to sell the seat of a President-elect.

We have a decided plurality that agrees with the concept separation of church and state; wouldn't a separate forum for religion be a relief?

CanadaSteve · 12-10-2008, 09:25 PM

[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2904338]Yes, I loved it at the time. But I was a kid, and didn't know jack ****. If kids ruled the world, we'd sit around all day watching cartoons.

Enjoying presents as a kid doesn't mean that Christmas wouldn't be better off with less materialism.[/QUOTE]

Who says it can't be? My wife and I limit the amount we spend on our kids, we make sure we give more to those in need at this time of year, we spend Xmas Eve at my in-laws farm, have Christmas brunch with family followed by Xmas dinner, and then the family goes up to the cottage to spend the whole week together.

MANY people (especially in Europe) do not focus on the material aspects of Xmas...that is a North American phenomenon invented to sell more goods at cheap prices...it was keeps us all going don't you know!

BrooklynBound · 12-10-2008, 09:27 PM

[QUOTE=sackdance;2904424]This also aptly describes the 1000th religious thread in a Politics/World Events forum. Unlike probably most every media outlet and discussion forum on the Internet, JI seems far more interested in the "War Against Christmas, version 20.08" than in the intrigue surrounding a governor caught by the FBI trying to sell the seat of a President-elect.

We have a decided plurality that agrees with the concept separation of church and state; wouldn't a separate forum for religion be a relief?[/QUOTE]

I hope I'm not lumped in here. People absolutely have the right to act like greedy simpletons in a pagan fashion.

BrooklynBound · 12-10-2008, 09:28 PM

[QUOTE=CanadaSteve;2904426]Who says it can't be? My wife and I limit the amount we spend on our kids, we make sure we give more to those in need at this time of year, we spend Xmas Eve at my in-laws farm, have Christmas brunch with family followed by Xmas dinner, and then the family goes up to the cottage to spend the whole week together.

MANY people (especially in Europe) do not focus on the material aspects of Xmas...that is a North American phenomenon invented to sell more goods at cheap prices...it was keeps us all going don't you know![/QUOTE]
There are certainly exceptions. I was speaking on a macro basis. I still think all of these things could be accomplished without gifts. Look at the Thanksgiving drives.

32green · 12-10-2008, 09:57 PM

[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2904239]For most Americans, it's about getting sh*t. Gimme gimme gimme. No one can deny how materialistic our society has become. We rack up credit card debt for short-term gratification. Christmas is that personified.[/QUOTE]

You and me have to get drunk.

BrooklynBound · 12-10-2008, 10:28 PM

[QUOTE=32green;2904491]You and me have to get drunk.[/QUOTE]

Any time man. I may be an ornery ol' crank online, but that's because I don't want it to bleed into the rest of my life.

Speaking of, it really is a b*tch that co-workers Facebook you now. There's some things on there they probably wouldn't approve of.

Tucker134 · 12-11-2008, 12:39 AM

[QUOTE=cr726;2904220]Now that you are over 20 and have no kids. Christmas is about the kids. Let them believe there are good people in world, besides their parents.[/QUOTE]

true that!

12-10-2008, 06:11 PM	#1
long island leprechaun Don't mess with Angel Eyes. All Pro Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: greenwich village, NYC Posts: 7,254	True Christians Against Christmas You know, every good idea those pesky athiests come up with to attack those superstitious Christians seems to come from the horse's mouth.... Sorry, guys, you'll have to put away all that tinsel and those flashing lights. It's all off limits to a true Christian.... [url]http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/christm3.htm[/url]

12-10-2008, 06:21 PM	#2
BrooklynBound Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,550	Christmas is a materialistic sham. It would be heaps better if gifts weren't part of the equation. Thanksgiving >>> Christmas

12-10-2008, 07:47 PM	#3
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,329	Now that you are over 20 and have no kids. Christmas is about the kids. Let them believe there are good people in world, besides their parents. [QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2904120]Christmas is a materialistic sham. It would be heaps better if gifts weren't part of the equation. Thanksgiving >>> Christmas[/QUOTE]

12-10-2008, 07:53 PM	#4
BrooklynBound Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,550	[QUOTE=cr726;2904220]Now that you are over 20 and have no kids. Christmas is about the kids. Let them believe there are good people in world, besides their parents.[/QUOTE] For most Americans, it's about getting sh*t. Gimme gimme gimme. No one can deny how materialistic our society has become. We rack up credit card debt for short-term gratification. Christmas is that personified.

12-10-2008, 07:56 PM	#5
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,329	I can't argue with you, but once you have kids it changes. [QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2904239]For most Americans, it's about getting sh*t. Gimme gimme gimme. No one can deny how materialistic our society has become. We rack up credit card debt for short-term gratification. Christmas is that personified.[/QUOTE]

12-10-2008, 08:03 PM	#6
BrooklynBound Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,550	[QUOTE=cr726;2904248]I can't argue with you, but once you have kids it changes.[/QUOTE] And not necessarily for the better. I think we'd be better off with another Thanksgiving instead of Christmas.

12-10-2008, 08:19 PM	#7
long island leprechaun Don't mess with Angel Eyes. All Pro Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: greenwich village, NYC Posts: 7,254	Hey, BB, Christmas has another name: "stimulus package!" :D

12-10-2008, 08:23 PM	#8
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,329	Did you love T-day as a 8 year old kid? Sitting around with grown ups and eating? [QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2904263]And not necessarily for the better. I think we'd be better off with another Thanksgiving instead of Christmas.[/QUOTE]

12-10-2008, 08:34 PM	#9
BrooklynBound Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,550	[QUOTE=cr726;2904301]Did you love T-day as a 8 year old kid? Sitting around with grown ups and eating?[/QUOTE] Yeah, getting **** for Christmas made me such a better person.

12-10-2008, 08:37 PM	#10
ReleasetheAnimal is living in a van down by the river. All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wilton, CT Posts: 2,745	[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2904322]Yeah, getting **** for Christmas made me such a better person.[/QUOTE] Man, you are no fun.

12-10-2008, 08:40 PM	#11
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,329	What are you talking about? I asked a simple question and it has nothing to do with being a better person. Wow. [QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2904322]Yeah, getting **** for Christmas made me such a better person.[/QUOTE]

12-10-2008, 08:43 PM	#12
BrooklynBound Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,550	[QUOTE=cr726;2904331]What are you talking about? I asked a simple question and it has nothing to do with being a better person. Wow.[/QUOTE] Yes, I loved it at the time. But I was a kid, and didn't know jack ****. If kids ruled the world, we'd sit around all day watching cartoons. Enjoying presents as a kid doesn't mean that Christmas wouldn't be better off with less materialism.

12-10-2008, 09:10 PM	#13
FF2® Believes Sloppy Guy was involved JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 46,223	There's nothing wrong with a few gifts for kids. But people overdo it. Ruins everything.

12-10-2008, 09:23 PM	#14
sackdance All Pro Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,889	[QUOTE=FF2®;2904388]But people overdo it. Ruins everything.[/QUOTE] This also aptly describes the 1000th religious thread in a Politics/World Events forum. Unlike probably most every media outlet and discussion forum on the Internet, JI seems far more interested in the "War Against Christmas, version 20.08" than in the intrigue surrounding a governor caught by the FBI trying to sell the seat of a President-elect. We have a decided plurality that agrees with the concept separation of church and state; wouldn't a separate forum for religion be a relief?

12-10-2008, 09:25 PM	#15
CanadaSteve Liked the draft picks....meat and potatoes. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 6,514	[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2904338]Yes, I loved it at the time. But I was a kid, and didn't know jack ****. If kids ruled the world, we'd sit around all day watching cartoons. Enjoying presents as a kid doesn't mean that Christmas wouldn't be better off with less materialism.[/QUOTE] Who says it can't be? My wife and I limit the amount we spend on our kids, we make sure we give more to those in need at this time of year, we spend Xmas Eve at my in-laws farm, have Christmas brunch with family followed by Xmas dinner, and then the family goes up to the cottage to spend the whole week together. MANY people (especially in Europe) do not focus on the material aspects of Xmas...that is a North American phenomenon invented to sell more goods at cheap prices...it was keeps us all going don't you know!

12-10-2008, 09:27 PM	#16
BrooklynBound Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,550	[QUOTE=sackdance;2904424]This also aptly describes the 1000th religious thread in a Politics/World Events forum. Unlike probably most every media outlet and discussion forum on the Internet, JI seems far more interested in the "War Against Christmas, version 20.08" than in the intrigue surrounding a governor caught by the FBI trying to sell the seat of a President-elect. We have a decided plurality that agrees with the concept separation of church and state; wouldn't a separate forum for religion be a relief?[/QUOTE] I hope I'm not lumped in here. People absolutely have the right to act like greedy simpletons in a pagan fashion.

12-10-2008, 09:28 PM	#17
BrooklynBound Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,550	[QUOTE=CanadaSteve;2904426]Who says it can't be? My wife and I limit the amount we spend on our kids, we make sure we give more to those in need at this time of year, we spend Xmas Eve at my in-laws farm, have Christmas brunch with family followed by Xmas dinner, and then the family goes up to the cottage to spend the whole week together. MANY people (especially in Europe) do not focus on the material aspects of Xmas...that is a North American phenomenon invented to sell more goods at cheap prices...it was keeps us all going don't you know![/QUOTE] There are certainly exceptions. I was speaking on a macro basis. I still think all of these things could be accomplished without gifts. Look at the Thanksgiving drives.

12-10-2008, 09:57 PM	#18
32green The original road-kill pus slurper. MMMmmm pus. Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The depths of Despair. Posts: 37,672	[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2904239]For most Americans, it's about getting sh*t. Gimme gimme gimme. No one can deny how materialistic our society has become. We rack up credit card debt for short-term gratification. Christmas is that personified.[/QUOTE] You and me have to get drunk.

12-10-2008, 10:28 PM	#19
BrooklynBound Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,550	[QUOTE=32green;2904491]You and me have to get drunk.[/QUOTE] Any time man. I may be an ornery ol' crank online, but that's because I don't want it to bleed into the rest of my life. Speaking of, it really is a b*tch that co-workers Facebook you now. There's some things on there they probably wouldn't approve of.

12-11-2008, 12:39 AM	#20
Tucker134 Let's go Isles! All League Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 2,986	[QUOTE=cr726;2904220]Now that you are over 20 and have no kids. Christmas is about the kids. Let them believe there are good people in world, besides their parents.[/QUOTE] true that!