Jesse Jackson Jr. was an informant in Blago probe

nuu faaola · 12-17-2008, 02:16 PM

This is pretty interesting.

Looks like "candidate No. 5" has been vindicated after all.

[QUOTE]Jackson, Jr. an informant to Blago investigations
Posted: 07:44 PM ET

[B]Sources close to Rep. Jackson, Jr. told CNN Tuesday that the Illinois congressman has supplied information regarding Gov. Blagojevich to federal law enforcement officials since 2006.
[/B]
SPRINGFIELD, Illinois (CNN) — Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. — who was cited in a criminal complaint against Rod Blagojevich — has been an informant for at least a decade with the U.S. Attorney's office, and has informed on the embattled governor of Illinois, though not in the case currently under investigation, Jackson spokesman Kenneth Edmonds told CNN Tuesday.

In addition, two sources close to Jackson told CNN that, in 2002, Blagojevich — then running for governor of Illinois — solicited a $25,000 campaign donation from Jackson, which he did not get.

At the time, Jackson's wife, Sandi, was a candidate for the job of director of the state's Lottery Commission, a post she did not win, the sources said.

After Blagojevich took office, in early 2003, he told Jackson something to the effect of, "You see what $25,000 would have done?" the sources said.

In 2006, Jackson reported the incident, which he believed to have been an attempt at a shakedown, the sources said.

The report, the sources said, came three three years later because Jackson's memory was jogged by another case — that of developer Tony Rezko, whose fraud and corruption trial included testimony about $25,000 donations to Blagojevich.

Jackson did not endorse Blagojevich in his initial campaign and tried to stay on the sidelines during the governor's re-election bid, one of the sources said.

Blagojevich's office did not return calls seeking comment.[/QUOTE]

Ha Ha Ha · 12-17-2008, 02:41 PM

Feds are idiots for arresting him before he actually committed the bribe.

nuu faaola · 12-17-2008, 03:20 PM

[QUOTE=Vilma;2917335]Feds are idiots for arresting him before he actually committed the bribe.[/QUOTE]

Maybe, but they may have other stuff on him.

They've been gathering dirt on him for years --he was the real target in the trial of Rezko, who is reportedly now singing like a canary-- and the senate-seat stuff just happened last month.

Fitzgerald is pretty smart. I doubt he'd short-circuit his entire case.

Warfish · 12-17-2008, 03:25 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb, and guess the end result of this "case" will have Obama and teh Democrats looking like roses, and only Blago (and perhaps some Republican he may know) as the only badguys.

sackdance · 12-17-2008, 03:31 PM

[QUOTE=Vilma;2917335]Feds are idiots for arresting him before he actually committed the bribe.[/QUOTE]
A buy-and-bust for this pay-to-play potentially may have snared Obama - and no one wanted to see that happen. Yet Obama played it like a moron (sensing a pattern before he's even in office) by declaring that neither he nor his staff had discussed anything with anyone. Yet his chief of staff is on tape 21 times discussing that very issue with the governor's office.

nuu faaola · 12-17-2008, 03:32 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;2917424]I'm going to go out on a limb, and guess the end result of this "case" will have Obama and teh Democrats looking like roses, and only Blago (and perhaps some Republican he may know) as the only badguys.[/QUOTE]

Pat Fitzgerald is a Republican, and he's prosecuted dems and republicans with vigor for years. What in his record suggests he'll pull punches on anyone?

nuu faaola · 12-17-2008, 03:33 PM

[QUOTE=sackdance;2917437]A buy-and-bust for this pay-to-play potentially may have snared Obama - and no one wanted to see that happen. Yet Obama played it like a moron (sensing a pattern before he's even in office) by declaring that neither he nor his staff had discussed anything with anyone. Yet his chief of staff is on tape 21 times discussing that very issue with the governor's office.[/QUOTE]

And Blagojevich is on tape calling Obama a "mutherfu#ker" for not playing his little game, saying all he would get for appointing Obama's favored candidates was "appreciation."

chicadeel · 12-17-2008, 03:55 PM

[QUOTE]-he was the real target in the trial of Rezko, who is reportedly now singing like a canary--[/QUOTE]

..and I'll say it again.
The littlest bird sings the prettiest song.

...and now,
the best is yet to come.

Warfish · 12-17-2008, 04:00 PM

[QUOTE=nuu faaola;2917443]Pat Fitzgerald is a Republican, and he's prosecuted dems and republicans with vigor for years. What in his record suggests he'll pull punches on anyone?[/QUOTE]

His prosecution of Libby when he knew the first, and illegal, leaker was Armitage. A very questionable investiagtion, on a very questionable issue, that seemed far more based in politics than it did in law. I do not expect you to agree.

His ending this investigation in what seems to me to be a VERY early point, before (possibly) ANY actual illegal action took place. I do not expect you to agree.

I don't care which party he claims he votes for, these two issues alone make me question him.

nuu faaola · 12-17-2008, 04:29 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;2917503]His prosecution of Libby when he knew the first, and illegal, leaker was Armitage. A very questionable investiagtion, on a very questionable issue, that seemed far more based in politics than it did in law. I do not expect you to agree.

His ending this investigation in what seems to me to be a VERY early point, before (possibly) ANY actual illegal action took place. I do not expect you to agree.

I don't care which party he claims he votes for, these two issues alone make me question him.[/QUOTE]

He has not ended his investigation of Blagojevich. They are still investigating. They just brought these particular charges early to preempt the sale of the senate seat.

As has been reported, Rezko is still still talking --and he's been in jail during the whole senate episode so obviously he's not talking about that.

PlumberKhan · 12-17-2008, 04:36 PM

[QUOTE=nuu faaola;2917449]And Blagojevich is on tape calling Obama a "mutherfu#ker" for not playing his little game, saying all he would get for appointing Obama's favored candidates was "appreciation."[/QUOTE]

Doesn't matter how many times you say it...the ODS foamers don't care.

Warfish · 12-17-2008, 04:55 PM

[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2917576]Doesn't matter how many times you say it...the ODS foamers don't care.[/QUOTE]

If Blago said that (and I am sure he did) it clearly indicates he spoke with someone claiming to represent Obama. Otherwise, how could he know what (if anything) Obama would offer?

With that said, if Obama did not then come forward to Fitzgerald to report Blago's requests, then Obama (or someone claiming to represent him) did, in fact, do somethign wrong.

But as I said, I can predict that Obama will come out of this looking like roses, cleared of any wrongdoing, and priased for 'helping' to bust Blago.

2foolish197 · 12-17-2008, 04:57 PM

jesse jackson jr is a rat and how ironic since his father is one of the biggest shake-downs artists of our time.these people deserve each other.i just hope obama isn't involved.

Timmy® · 12-17-2008, 05:13 PM

Give up trying to tie Obama to this, he's clean as a whistle. We have a negro president, deal with it.

nuu faaola · 12-17-2008, 05:17 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;2917609]If Blago said that (and I am sure he did) it clearly indicates he spoke with someone claiming to represent Obama. Otherwise, how could he know what (if anything) Obama would offer?

With that said, if Obama did not then come forward to Fitzgerald to report Blago's requests, then Obama (or someone claiming to represent him) did, in fact, do somethign wrong.

But as I said, I can predict that Obama will come out of this looking like roses, cleared of any wrongdoing, and priased for 'helping' to bust Blago.[/QUOTE]

Clearly Rahm Emanuel spoke to the governor's office on Obama's behalf to make recommendations for the seat. That's pretty clear from the indictment and subsequent reports. Obama/Rahm wanted him to pick "candidate No. 1" (later revealed to be Valerie Jarrett). It went nowhere, she dropped out of the running and Blago called Obama a "motherf*cker" as a result.

Now it could mean, as you suggest, that some sort of ask was made and rebuffed.

Or it could mean that Emmanuel preempted such an ask by making it clear from the outset there would be no pay for play.

Or it could be, as has also been rumored, that Rahm himself dropped the dime on Blago.

There are recordings of Rahm chatting with the gov's people. I am sure we will hear about their contents soon enough.

BrooklynBound · 12-17-2008, 07:14 PM

[QUOTE=Timmy-y-y-y;2917632]Give up trying to tie Obama to this, he's clean as a whistle. We have a negro president, deal with it.[/QUOTE]

Enough with the negro stuff, you just sound ridiculous.

sackdance · 12-18-2008, 02:34 AM

[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2917576]Doesn't matter how many times you say it...the ODS foamers don't care.[/QUOTE]
PK - do you realize Obama is either lying or asking the public to swallow a ridiculous assumption - over this matter that should have nothing to do with him?

PlumberKhan · 12-18-2008, 07:51 AM

[QUOTE=sackdance;2918251]PK - do you realize Obama is either lying or asking the public to swallow a ridiculous assumption - over this matter that should have nothing to do with him?[/QUOTE]

No...but I do realize that the ODS afflicted ones are gonna smack their lips about this just like the BDS folks did about Bush lying about the Iraq War, being involved in making NORAD stand down during 9/11, torture, illegally firing judges etc...etc.

This is exactly what I mean when I say there is no difference between left/right. I care about this just as much as I care about Laura Bush killing that guy.

chicadeel · 12-18-2008, 09:36 AM

Blagojevich calls Obama a mother****er and Jackson Sr. wants to cut Obama's nuts off.

You would have to be a fool to believe that they all didn't participate in the game one way or another.

Pawns and Kings,
Pawns and Kings.

FF2® · 12-18-2008, 11:43 AM

[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2917755]Enough with the negro stuff, you just sound ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

No he doesn't.

12-17-2008, 02:16 PM	#1
nuu faaola All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,253	Jesse Jackson Jr. was an informant in Blago probe This is pretty interesting. Looks like "candidate No. 5" has been vindicated after all. [QUOTE]Jackson, Jr. an informant to Blago investigations Posted: 07:44 PM ET [B]Sources close to Rep. Jackson, Jr. told CNN Tuesday that the Illinois congressman has supplied information regarding Gov. Blagojevich to federal law enforcement officials since 2006. [/B] SPRINGFIELD, Illinois (CNN) — Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. — who was cited in a criminal complaint against Rod Blagojevich — has been an informant for at least a decade with the U.S. Attorney's office, and has informed on the embattled governor of Illinois, though not in the case currently under investigation, Jackson spokesman Kenneth Edmonds told CNN Tuesday. In addition, two sources close to Jackson told CNN that, in 2002, Blagojevich — then running for governor of Illinois — solicited a $25,000 campaign donation from Jackson, which he did not get. At the time, Jackson's wife, Sandi, was a candidate for the job of director of the state's Lottery Commission, a post she did not win, the sources said. After Blagojevich took office, in early 2003, he told Jackson something to the effect of, "You see what $25,000 would have done?" the sources said. In 2006, Jackson reported the incident, which he believed to have been an attempt at a shakedown, the sources said. The report, the sources said, came three three years later because Jackson's memory was jogged by another case — that of developer Tony Rezko, whose fraud and corruption trial included testimony about $25,000 donations to Blagojevich. Jackson did not endorse Blagojevich in his initial campaign and tried to stay on the sidelines during the governor's re-election bid, one of the sources said. Blagojevich's office did not return calls seeking comment.[/QUOTE]

12-17-2008, 05:17 PM	#15
nuu faaola All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,253	[QUOTE=Warfish;2917609]If Blago said that (and I am sure he did) it clearly indicates he spoke with someone claiming to represent Obama. Otherwise, how could he know what (if anything) Obama would offer? With that said, if Obama did not then come forward to Fitzgerald to report Blago's requests, then Obama (or someone claiming to represent him) did, in fact, do somethign wrong. But as I said, I can predict that Obama will come out of this looking like roses, cleared of any wrongdoing, and priased for 'helping' to bust Blago.[/QUOTE] Clearly Rahm Emanuel spoke to the governor's office on Obama's behalf to make recommendations for the seat. That's pretty clear from the indictment and subsequent reports. Obama/Rahm wanted him to pick "candidate No. 1" (later revealed to be Valerie Jarrett). It went nowhere, she dropped out of the running and Blago called Obama a "motherfcker" as a result. Now it could mean, as you suggest, that some sort of ask was made and rebuffed. Or it could mean that Emmanuel preempted such an ask by making it clear from the outset there would be no pay for play. Or it could be, as has also been rumored, that Rahm himself dropped the dime on Blago. There are recordings of Rahm chatting with the gov's people. I am sure we will hear about their contents soon enough. Last edited by nuu faaola; 12-17-2008 at 05:27 PM.*

12-17-2008, 02:41 PM	#2
Ha Ha Ha Board Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Brooklyn Heights Posts: 2,459	Feds are idiots for arresting him before he actually committed the bribe.

12-17-2008, 03:20 PM	#3
nuu faaola All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,253	[QUOTE=Vilma;2917335]Feds are idiots for arresting him before he actually committed the bribe.[/QUOTE] Maybe, but they may have other stuff on him. They've been gathering dirt on him for years --he was the real target in the trial of Rezko, who is reportedly now singing like a canary-- and the senate-seat stuff just happened last month. Fitzgerald is pretty smart. I doubt he'd short-circuit his entire case.

12-17-2008, 03:25 PM	#4
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	I'm going to go out on a limb, and guess the end result of this "case" will have Obama and teh Democrats looking like roses, and only Blago (and perhaps some Republican he may know) as the only badguys.

12-17-2008, 03:31 PM	#5
sackdance All Pro Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,882	[QUOTE=Vilma;2917335]Feds are idiots for arresting him before he actually committed the bribe.[/QUOTE] A buy-and-bust for this pay-to-play potentially may have snared Obama - and no one wanted to see that happen. Yet Obama played it like a moron (sensing a pattern before he's even in office) by declaring that neither he nor his staff had discussed anything with anyone. Yet his chief of staff is on tape 21 times discussing that very issue with the governor's office.

12-17-2008, 03:32 PM	#6
nuu faaola All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,253	[QUOTE=Warfish;2917424]I'm going to go out on a limb, and guess the end result of this "case" will have Obama and teh Democrats looking like roses, and only Blago (and perhaps some Republican he may know) as the only badguys.[/QUOTE] Pat Fitzgerald is a Republican, and he's prosecuted dems and republicans with vigor for years. What in his record suggests he'll pull punches on anyone?

12-17-2008, 03:33 PM	#7
nuu faaola All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,253	[QUOTE=sackdance;2917437]A buy-and-bust for this pay-to-play potentially may have snared Obama - and no one wanted to see that happen. Yet Obama played it like a moron (sensing a pattern before he's even in office) by declaring that neither he nor his staff had discussed anything with anyone. Yet his chief of staff is on tape 21 times discussing that very issue with the governor's office.[/QUOTE] And Blagojevich is on tape calling Obama a "mutherfu#ker" for not playing his little game, saying all he would get for appointing Obama's favored candidates was "appreciation."

12-17-2008, 03:55 PM	#8
chicadeel All Pro Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,234	[QUOTE]-he was the real target in the trial of Rezko, who is reportedly now singing like a canary--[/QUOTE] ..and I'll say it again. The littlest bird sings the prettiest song. ...and now, the best is yet to come.

12-17-2008, 04:00 PM	#9
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	[QUOTE=nuu faaola;2917443]Pat Fitzgerald is a Republican, and he's prosecuted dems and republicans with vigor for years. What in his record suggests he'll pull punches on anyone?[/QUOTE] His prosecution of Libby when he knew the first, and illegal, leaker was Armitage. A very questionable investiagtion, on a very questionable issue, that seemed far more based in politics than it did in law. I do not expect you to agree. His ending this investigation in what seems to me to be a VERY early point, before (possibly) ANY actual illegal action took place. I do not expect you to agree. I don't care which party he claims he votes for, these two issues alone make me question him.

12-17-2008, 04:29 PM	#10
nuu faaola All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,253	[QUOTE=Warfish;2917503]His prosecution of Libby when he knew the first, and illegal, leaker was Armitage. A very questionable investiagtion, on a very questionable issue, that seemed far more based in politics than it did in law. I do not expect you to agree. His ending this investigation in what seems to me to be a VERY early point, before (possibly) ANY actual illegal action took place. I do not expect you to agree. I don't care which party he claims he votes for, these two issues alone make me question him.[/QUOTE] He has not ended his investigation of Blagojevich. They are still investigating. They just brought these particular charges early to preempt the sale of the senate seat. As has been reported, Rezko is still still talking --and he's been in jail during the whole senate episode so obviously he's not talking about that.

12-17-2008, 04:36 PM	#11
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,013	[QUOTE=nuu faaola;2917449]And Blagojevich is on tape calling Obama a "mutherfu#ker" for not playing his little game, saying all he would get for appointing Obama's favored candidates was "appreciation."[/QUOTE] Doesn't matter how many times you say it...the ODS foamers don't care.

12-17-2008, 04:55 PM	#12
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2917576]Doesn't matter how many times you say it...the ODS foamers don't care.[/QUOTE] If Blago said that (and I am sure he did) it clearly indicates he spoke with someone claiming to represent Obama. Otherwise, how could he know what (if anything) Obama would offer? With that said, if Obama did not then come forward to Fitzgerald to report Blago's requests, then Obama (or someone claiming to represent him) did, in fact, do somethign wrong. But as I said, I can predict that Obama will come out of this looking like roses, cleared of any wrongdoing, and priased for 'helping' to bust Blago.

12-17-2008, 04:57 PM	#13
2foolish197 i suspect hanky-panky All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: astoria Posts: 4,528	jesse jackson jr is a rat and how ironic since his father is one of the biggest shake-downs artists of our time.these people deserve each other.i just hope obama isn't involved.

12-17-2008, 05:13 PM	#14
Timmy® JI's own Reverend Jim. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 23,469	Give up trying to tie Obama to this, he's clean as a whistle. We have a negro president, deal with it.

12-17-2008, 07:14 PM	#16
BrooklynBound Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,550	[QUOTE=Timmy-y-y-y;2917632]Give up trying to tie Obama to this, he's clean as a whistle. We have a negro president, deal with it.[/QUOTE] Enough with the negro stuff, you just sound ridiculous.

12-18-2008, 02:34 AM	#17
sackdance All Pro Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,882	[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2917576]Doesn't matter how many times you say it...the ODS foamers don't care.[/QUOTE] PK - do you realize Obama is either lying or asking the public to swallow a ridiculous assumption - over this matter that should have nothing to do with him?

12-18-2008, 07:51 AM	#18
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,013	[QUOTE=sackdance;2918251]PK - do you realize Obama is either lying or asking the public to swallow a ridiculous assumption - over this matter that should have nothing to do with him?[/QUOTE] No...but I do realize that the ODS afflicted ones are gonna smack their lips about this just like the BDS folks did about Bush lying about the Iraq War, being involved in making NORAD stand down during 9/11, torture, illegally firing judges etc...etc. This is exactly what I mean when I say there is no difference between left/right. I care about this just as much as I care about Laura Bush killing that guy.

12-18-2008, 09:36 AM	#19
chicadeel All Pro Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,234	Blagojevich calls Obama a mother****er and Jackson Sr. wants to cut Obama's nuts off. You would have to be a fool to believe that they all didn't participate in the game one way or another. Pawns and Kings, Pawns and Kings.

12-18-2008, 11:43 AM	#20
FF2® Believes Sloppy Guy was involved JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 46,093	[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2917755]Enough with the negro stuff, you just sound ridiculous.[/QUOTE] No he doesn't.