Schecter on Shmoozer: No Cowher for Jets - Page 2

cornjulio21 · 12-30-2008, 01:03 AM

No disrespect to Adam Schefter, but even if Cowher has already accepted the Jets job, neither side would reveal it for awhile. :

The Jets would want maximum PR. This would get announced just before a playoff game for hype.

Coaches don't publicly pine for jobs of coaches just canned.

The Jets have to interview Token. (Which is more demeaning to minorities IMO)

This job is perfect for Cowher considering his family situation. I guess he could consider Jax, but this gig lines up great for him.

If Cowher really wants to coach again me thinks he walks into being the highest paid coach in the NFL.

I say a deal gets done.

chrisjets23 · 12-30-2008, 01:04 AM

Just because rookie HC's have failed here in the past, doesn't mean we should avoid hiring one again. There are retreads who could end up sucking here too. Hire the best candidate, bottom line. You could make the argument that besides Cowher, Spagnuolo is the 2nd best candidate out there.

SBIII · 12-30-2008, 01:19 AM

Adam Shefter is the best guy for inside info.

Untouchable · 12-30-2008, 01:26 AM

[B]The Jets have asked permission to interview Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo for their head-coaching opening.
At least on paper, Spags is the quintessential head coach. His players love him, he looks the part, and he's awesome at in-game adjusting. He'd also be the antithesis to Eric Mangini, who backed off blitzing late in the '08 season. Spagnuolo is willing to bring pressure from any position on any given play.[/B]

Again, I don't mind Spags one bit as a fallback option.

Varjet · 12-30-2008, 01:33 AM

Cowher has an once in a lifetime opportunity to accumulate really great wealth by extorting a Woody Johnson desperate to sell his PSLs.

There would be a far greater "spread" between a TV gig and coaching than usually attainable.

He would have to look himself in the mirror long and hard to turn down that type of money, and the security it would provide for his family. My guess is that the desperate Jets could and would pay him that type of money.

JMHO.

JamaicanJetFan · 12-30-2008, 01:37 AM

I'm a little baffled that we haven't heard ANYTHING about Rex Ryan

BlueDevilJet29 · 12-30-2008, 03:50 AM

[QUOTE=JamaicanJetFan;2942421]I'm a little baffled that we haven't heard ANYTHING about Rex Ryan[/QUOTE]

Well the Ravens are preparing for a playoff game and Ryan can't interview with anyone until Baltimore loses.

The only reason we're hearing about Spagnuolo is because the Giants have a bye. It might be better for us if the Ravens lose early. Beat the Phins this week then lose in the divisional round. I want Ryan to at least get a chance at an interview here.

jets80 · 12-30-2008, 05:40 AM

ESPN scroll says Cowher is interested in the NY Jets Job...

Savage69 · 12-30-2008, 08:03 AM

[QUOTE=Once A Titan;2942339] Gruden would be a thought or someone like him.[/QUOTE]

We did have someone like him..Mangini had the team at 8-3 and blew it and Gruden had the Buc's at 9-3 and blew it..:yes:

FloridaJet · 12-30-2008, 08:09 AM

[quote=Varjet;2942417]Cowher has an once in a lifetime opportunity to accumulate really great wealth by extorting a Woody Johnson desperate to sell his PSLs.

There would be a far greater "spread" between a TV gig and coaching than usually attainable.

He would have to look himself in the mirror long and hard to turn down that type of money, and the security it would provide for his family. My guess is that the desperate Jets could and would pay him that type of money.

JMHO.[/quote]

Exactly..BS walks and money talks..:yes:

FloridaJet · 12-30-2008, 08:17 AM

[quote=Savage69;2942528]We did have someone like him..Mangini had the team at 8-3 and blew it and Gruden had the Buc's at 9-3 and blew it..:yes:[/quote]

Agree but one slight difference Their last four losses were to Carolina, Atlanta, San Diego, and Oakland. Three of these teams are quite good. (and Oakland was playing way better than we played them). Just saying...

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sameoldjets · 12-30-2008, 08:24 AM

it's been one day. maybe cowher is the guy and maybe he isn't. no doubt that tannenbaum will be talking to him. but don't forget there are a number of assistants who are worthy of consideration on playoff teams. it would be foolish of the jets to put all their hopes on cowher at such an early stage. moreover, even though they would probably load up the wheelbarrow for cowher they aren't going go that far. another point to consider is how long they intend on keeping the coach or giving him a chance to deliver a champion. cowher had two sb appearances in about 10 seasons with the steelers. is that enough?

PatsFanTX · 12-30-2008, 08:27 AM

[QUOTE=jetswinbaby!;2942318]I'm still holding out hope because none of the "experts" thought Favre would be a Jet either.[/QUOTE]

And where did Favre get you?

scott dierking II · 12-30-2008, 08:29 AM

Schefter is the best in the business, bar none.

Jets4life335 · 12-30-2008, 09:16 AM

[QUOTE=Savage69;2942528]We did have someone like him..Mangini had the team at 8-3 and blew it and Gruden had the Buc's at 9-3 and blew it..:yes:[/QUOTE]

The thing about Tampa is people said how the Defense started quitting on the team after Monte Kiffin announced after the season he would be going to take the Defensive Coordinator Job at Tennessee under his son Lane Kiffin.

bitonti · 12-30-2008, 09:18 AM

[QUOTE=Green Jets & Ham;2942325]I don't like this thread :([/QUOTE]

this was fairly obvious going into the situation

if Cowher was going to be the coach we'd know about it by now

they didn't fire mangini to get Cowher they fired Mangini without a real plan.

GreenJoe · 12-30-2008, 10:18 AM

[QUOTE=Darth Vader;2942314]Why is spagnuolo better? he's never even been a HC before..

We'd have been better keeping Mangini.[/QUOTE]

I disagree. This is based on experience alone. Spagnuolo is a far better motivator than Mangini (something this team has not had in a HC since Herm) and designs successful defenses that ATTACK and constantly pressure the other team. He does not play "not to lose."

I see Spagnuolo as someone who has a far better skill set than Mangini for a Head Coaching Gig. If Favre retires or walks (highly likely), we won't really be built to win next year anyway. If this is the case, let Spags or Rex Ryan take the job and prepare for years 2 and 3 of their tenure.

GreenJoe · 12-30-2008, 10:21 AM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2942550]And where did Favre get you?[/QUOTE]

TX, I've been meaning to ask you.

Out of the following:

Cowher
Spagnuolo
Rex Ryan
Billick
M. Schottenheimer

Which coach do you least want the Jets to get? I.E., which coach will make the Jets the best team compared to the other coaches?

And, which coach would you consider an absolute joke? IE, the coach that you want the Jets to get, because the Jets would suck after a while?

BIGKIDD325 · 12-30-2008, 10:24 AM

Yeah if Schefter says it it's true.

I wouldn't mind Spagnolo. We'll see I guess. I wonder if he might try and switch the team back to a 4-3 though...

TokyoJetsFan · 12-30-2008, 10:43 AM

[QUOTE=bitonti;2942618]this was fairly obvious going into the situation

if Cowher was going to be the coach we'd know about it by now

they didn't fire mangini to get Cowher they fired Mangini without a real plan.[/QUOTE]

They have to interview minority candidates before they announce anything. Even if they had a plan and a deal in place already they can't announce they have a head coach already...unless he is a minority.

12-30-2008, 01:03 AM	#21
cornjulio21 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,514	No disrespect to Adam Schefter, but even if Cowher has already accepted the Jets job, neither side would reveal it for awhile. : The Jets would want maximum PR. This would get announced just before a playoff game for hype. Coaches don't publicly pine for jobs of coaches just canned. The Jets have to interview Token. (Which is more demeaning to minorities IMO) This job is perfect for Cowher considering his family situation. I guess he could consider Jax, but this gig lines up great for him. If Cowher really wants to coach again me thinks he walks into being the highest paid coach in the NFL. I say a deal gets done.

12-30-2008, 01:04 AM	#22
chrisjets23 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 726	Just because rookie HC's have failed here in the past, doesn't mean we should avoid hiring one again. There are retreads who could end up sucking here too. Hire the best candidate, bottom line. You could make the argument that besides Cowher, Spagnuolo is the 2nd best candidate out there.

12-30-2008, 01:19 AM	#23
SBIII JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the 90's Posts: 28,009	Adam Shefter is the best guy for inside info.

12-30-2008, 01:26 AM	#24
Untouchable Big whoop, wanna fight about it? Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22,473	[B]The Jets have asked permission to interview Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo for their head-coaching opening. At least on paper, Spags is the quintessential head coach. His players love him, he looks the part, and he's awesome at in-game adjusting. He'd also be the antithesis to Eric Mangini, who backed off blitzing late in the '08 season. Spagnuolo is willing to bring pressure from any position on any given play.[/B] Again, I don't mind Spags one bit as a fallback option.

12-30-2008, 01:33 AM	#25
Varjet Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 233	Cowher has an once in a lifetime opportunity to accumulate really great wealth by extorting a Woody Johnson desperate to sell his PSLs. There would be a far greater "spread" between a TV gig and coaching than usually attainable. He would have to look himself in the mirror long and hard to turn down that type of money, and the security it would provide for his family. My guess is that the desperate Jets could and would pay him that type of money. JMHO.

12-30-2008, 01:37 AM	#26
JamaicanJetFan START BILAL POWELL, kthx All League Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 2,690	I'm a little baffled that we haven't heard ANYTHING about Rex Ryan

12-30-2008, 03:50 AM	#27
BlueDevilJet29 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,188	[QUOTE=JamaicanJetFan;2942421]I'm a little baffled that we haven't heard ANYTHING about Rex Ryan[/QUOTE] Well the Ravens are preparing for a playoff game and Ryan can't interview with anyone until Baltimore loses. The only reason we're hearing about Spagnuolo is because the Giants have a bye. It might be better for us if the Ravens lose early. Beat the Phins this week then lose in the divisional round. I want Ryan to at least get a chance at an interview here.

12-30-2008, 05:40 AM	#28
jets80 All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cocoa Beach, Fl Posts: 3,218	ESPN scroll says Cowher is interested in the NY Jets Job...

12-30-2008, 08:03 AM	#29
Savage69 Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 39,388	[QUOTE=Once A Titan;2942339] Gruden would be a thought or someone like him.[/QUOTE] We did have someone like him..Mangini had the team at 8-3 and blew it and Gruden had the Buc's at 9-3 and blew it..:yes:

12-30-2008, 08:09 AM	#30
FloridaJet alive and still kicking All League Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,883	[quote=Varjet;2942417]Cowher has an once in a lifetime opportunity to accumulate really great wealth by extorting a Woody Johnson desperate to sell his PSLs. There would be a far greater "spread" between a TV gig and coaching than usually attainable. He would have to look himself in the mirror long and hard to turn down that type of money, and the security it would provide for his family. My guess is that the desperate Jets could and would pay him that type of money. JMHO.[/quote] Exactly..BS walks and money talks..:yes:

12-30-2008, 08:17 AM	#31
FloridaJet alive and still kicking All League Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,883	[quote=Savage69;2942528]We did have someone like him..Mangini had the team at 8-3 and blew it and Gruden had the Buc's at 9-3 and blew it..:yes:[/quote] Agree but one slight difference Their last four losses were to Carolina, Atlanta, San Diego, and Oakland. Three of these teams are quite good. (and Oakland was playing way better than we played them). Just saying... </IMG>

12-30-2008, 08:24 AM	#32
sameoldjets All Pro Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,497	it's been one day. maybe cowher is the guy and maybe he isn't. no doubt that tannenbaum will be talking to him. but don't forget there are a number of assistants who are worthy of consideration on playoff teams. it would be foolish of the jets to put all their hopes on cowher at such an early stage. moreover, even though they would probably load up the wheelbarrow for cowher they aren't going go that far. another point to consider is how long they intend on keeping the coach or giving him a chance to deliver a champion. cowher had two sb appearances in about 10 seasons with the steelers. is that enough?

12-30-2008, 08:27 AM	#33
PatsFanTX JI Resident Troll Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 52,068	[QUOTE=jetswinbaby!;2942318]I'm still holding out hope because none of the "experts" thought Favre would be a Jet either.[/QUOTE] And where did Favre get you?

12-30-2008, 08:29 AM	#34
scott dierking II is wondering when Scott Dierking III will be joining the site. Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Montclair, NJ Posts: 2,489	Schefter is the best in the business, bar none.

12-30-2008, 09:16 AM	#35
Jets4life335 in a sea of Pats fans. Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 941	[QUOTE=Savage69;2942528]We did have someone like him..Mangini had the team at 8-3 and blew it and Gruden had the Buc's at 9-3 and blew it..:yes:[/QUOTE] The thing about Tampa is people said how the Defense started quitting on the team after Monte Kiffin announced after the season he would be going to take the Defensive Coordinator Job at Tennessee under his son Lane Kiffin.

12-30-2008, 09:18 AM	#36
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	[QUOTE=Green Jets & Ham;2942325]I don't like this thread :([/QUOTE] this was fairly obvious going into the situation if Cowher was going to be the coach we'd know about it by now they didn't fire mangini to get Cowher they fired Mangini without a real plan.

12-30-2008, 10:18 AM	#37
GreenJoe is in search of the Roy Rodgers dining establishment. Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 782	[QUOTE=Darth Vader;2942314]Why is spagnuolo better? he's never even been a HC before.. We'd have been better keeping Mangini.[/QUOTE] I disagree. This is based on experience alone. Spagnuolo is a far better motivator than Mangini (something this team has not had in a HC since Herm) and designs successful defenses that ATTACK and constantly pressure the other team. He does not play "not to lose." I see Spagnuolo as someone who has a far better skill set than Mangini for a Head Coaching Gig. If Favre retires or walks (highly likely), we won't really be built to win next year anyway. If this is the case, let Spags or Rex Ryan take the job and prepare for years 2 and 3 of their tenure.

12-30-2008, 10:21 AM	#38
GreenJoe is in search of the Roy Rodgers dining establishment. Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 782	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2942550]And where did Favre get you?[/QUOTE] TX, I've been meaning to ask you. Out of the following: Cowher Spagnuolo Rex Ryan Billick M. Schottenheimer Which coach do you least want the Jets to get? I.E., which coach will make the Jets the best team compared to the other coaches? And, which coach would you consider an absolute joke? IE, the coach that you want the Jets to get, because the Jets would suck after a while?

12-30-2008, 10:24 AM	#39
BIGKIDD325 #helloplayoffs All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,618	Yeah if Schefter says it it's true. I wouldn't mind Spagnolo. We'll see I guess. I wonder if he might try and switch the team back to a 4-3 though...

12-30-2008, 10:43 AM	#40
TokyoJetsFan Is keeping a lookout for stolen ipad2's Veteran Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,257	[QUOTE=bitonti;2942618]this was fairly obvious going into the situation if Cowher was going to be the coach we'd know about it by now they didn't fire mangini to get Cowher they fired Mangini without a real plan.[/QUOTE] They have to interview minority candidates before they announce anything. Even if they had a plan and a deal in place already they can't announce they have a head coach already...unless he is a minority.