"THE JETS INTERNALLY THINK RATLIIF IS THEIR NEXT QB" via Francessa

avi31884 · 12-30-2008, 01:33 PM

:eek:

King Ryan · 12-30-2008, 01:33 PM

So far so good with what we've seen... I'd love to see more!

jetsfan1983 · 12-30-2008, 01:34 PM

Francesa didn't say it in a way that the Jets wouldn't even consider drafting one, he just said it to indicate that the Jets do like Ratliff and could go on with him in mind.

Jetsound · 12-30-2008, 01:35 PM

He did have a great preseason throwing to Wright and Clowney - but that was in garbage time of garbage games. Hopefully he'll be the next Cassell.

What's the inside word on Clemens?

TheFranchise · 12-30-2008, 01:37 PM

Just heard that myself.

Interesting, considering how much everyone on here loves him, based on 2 pre-season games.

Hopefully the guy has been working hard.

JamaicanJetFan · 12-30-2008, 01:38 PM

Yes

MDL_JET · 12-30-2008, 01:39 PM

If our next HC doesnt consider Ratliff and give him a chance IMO it will be a huge mistake. I really think he can be something special. I know he only played in preseason against 3rd stringers whatever but theres something there. Something Clemens didnt show in his playing time. They HAVE to give him a chance.

Get him a big target to make his job that much easier and let clowney develop as well to use his speed. The time is now while we still have solid Oline.

avi31884 · 12-30-2008, 01:39 PM

[QUOTE=Jetsound;2943472]He did have a great preseason throwing to Wright and Clowney - but that was in garbage time of garbage games. Hopefully he'll be the next Cassell.

What's the inside word on Clemens?[/QUOTE]

He said they like Ratliff more then Clemens. You guys got to keep in mind that they have seen Ratliff in practice a lot more then us and its not based solely on the preseason performance.

Warfish · 12-30-2008, 01:40 PM

I believe the 2009 Jets need to allow an open competition between Clemens, Ratliff and Ainge.

Winner named by the start of the 2nd pre-season game.

I do not currently favor drafting a QB (tempting though it may be, this class seems to be a poor one from what experts I trust say).

And I do not favor signing some veteran journeyman from someplace else.

And I do not favor ANY return to the Jets by Brett Favre.

Play 2009 with the three we have, and draft as appropriate post-2009 if required.

augustiniak · 12-30-2008, 01:40 PM

not that this is the entire decision, but isn't ratliff much taller than clemens? i thought clemens had too many passes batted down at the LOS.

jetsfan1983 · 12-30-2008, 01:41 PM

There were a couple reports saying that Clemens was actually looking better during the season in practices. Mangini even mentioned it during one of the press conferences.

There is a lot to like about Ratliff, and not only his performance in the preseason. he has perfect size, athleticism, real good arm, and a decent way about him. Looks very strong and athletic too.

Roger Vick · 12-30-2008, 01:41 PM

I'd like to see more of Ratliff.

I hope they get a coach who is good with player development, because Ratliff clearly has all the tools - he just needs the right coaching staff to bring him along.

JamaicanJetFan · 12-30-2008, 01:42 PM

I think, at the very least, Clemens will be a more than serviceable backup QB.

DaBallhawk · 12-30-2008, 01:42 PM

Internally? Who would that be? Woody? Fatgini is gone. ****tenheimer will lose his job next. There is nobody left to think about our next QB.

avi31884 · 12-30-2008, 01:45 PM

Maybe Bradway:dunno:

BornAJet · 12-30-2008, 01:46 PM

Obviously we should be cautious on a quarterback whose only professional appearances were in preseason games, but I liked what I saw. I don't have faith that Clemens is our answer long-term, so I'd love to see what Ratliff has to offer - he looks like he has an upside at the very least.

2milehighJet · 12-30-2008, 01:48 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;2943490]I believe the 2009 Jets need to allow an open competition between Clemens, Ratliff and Ainge.

Winner named by the start of the 2nd pre-season game.

I do not currently favor drafting a QB (tempting though it may be, this class seems to be a poor one from what experts I trust say).

And I do not favor signing some veteran journeyman from someplace else.

And I do not favor ANY return to the Jets by Brett Favre.

Play 2009 with the three we have, and draft as appropriate post-2009 if required.[/QUOTE]

I agree completley, however I saw ex-Giants coach Jim Fossel on ESPN and he thinks that signing a veteren QB would help, he doesn't think the core group of players would trust any of our young QB's, which brings up a good point, and he knows about loccer room chemisrty.

Jets Voice of Reason · 12-30-2008, 01:50 PM

Kinda tough to take this statement with a straight face considering we don't know who the Head coach is, nor do we know whether the coordinators or even the GM will be retained at this point.

Way to go Francessa. Make a buzzworthy topic that's unverifiable.

copernicus · 12-30-2008, 01:50 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;2943490]I believe the 2009 Jets need to allow an open competition between Clemens, Ratliff and Ainge.

Winner named by the start of the 2nd pre-season game.

I do not currently favor drafting a QB (tempting though it may be, this class seems to be a poor one from what experts I trust say).

And I do not favor signing some veteran journeyman from someplace else.

And I do not favor ANY return to the Jets by Brett Favre.

Play 2009 with the three we have, and draft as appropriate post-2009 if required.[/QUOTE]

Totally agree with you Warfish. I have not given up on Clemens and nor should the JETS. Open competition and the best QB wins..........No way in hell do I want Favre back

JamaicanJetFan · 12-30-2008, 01:54 PM

Another thing to consider is that both Clemens and Ratliff are pretty mobile. It was so excruciating to watch a wide open lane open up in front of Favre-- and instead of running for 15 yards--he'd just chuck it to nowheresville/other team.

12-30-2008, 01:33 PM	#1
avi31884 Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 914	"THE JETS INTERNALLY THINK RATLIIF IS THEIR NEXT QB" via Francessa :eek:

12-30-2008, 01:33 PM	#2
King Ryan take a guess Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Montville, NJ Posts: 5,473	So far so good with what we've seen... I'd love to see more!

12-30-2008, 01:34 PM	#3
jetsfan1983 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,835	Francesa didn't say it in a way that the Jets wouldn't even consider drafting one, he just said it to indicate that the Jets do like Ratliff and could go on with him in mind.

12-30-2008, 01:35 PM	#4
Jetsound thinks Tebow sucks and the Jets are a side-show. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bayville & Sec334 Posts: 2,099	He did have a great preseason throwing to Wright and Clowney - but that was in garbage time of garbage games. Hopefully he'll be the next Cassell. What's the inside word on Clemens?

12-30-2008, 01:37 PM	#5
TheFranchise Another Jetless Super Bowl. :( All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bronx, NY Posts: 5,993	Just heard that myself. Interesting, considering how much everyone on here loves him, based on 2 pre-season games. Hopefully the guy has been working hard.

12-30-2008, 01:38 PM	#6
JamaicanJetFan START BILAL POWELL, kthx All League Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 2,690	Yes

12-30-2008, 01:39 PM	#7
MDL_JET All Pro Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,633	If our next HC doesnt consider Ratliff and give him a chance IMO it will be a huge mistake. I really think he can be something special. I know he only played in preseason against 3rd stringers whatever but theres something there. Something Clemens didnt show in his playing time. They HAVE to give him a chance. Get him a big target to make his job that much easier and let clowney develop as well to use his speed. The time is now while we still have solid Oline.

12-30-2008, 01:40 PM	#9
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	I believe the 2009 Jets need to allow an open competition between Clemens, Ratliff and Ainge. Winner named by the start of the 2nd pre-season game. I do not currently favor drafting a QB (tempting though it may be, this class seems to be a poor one from what experts I trust say). And I do not favor signing some veteran journeyman from someplace else. And I do not favor ANY return to the Jets by Brett Favre. Play 2009 with the three we have, and draft as appropriate post-2009 if required.

12-30-2008, 01:40 PM	#10
augustiniak All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 8,103	not that this is the entire decision, but isn't ratliff much taller than clemens? i thought clemens had too many passes batted down at the LOS.

12-30-2008, 01:41 PM	#11
jetsfan1983 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,835	There were a couple reports saying that Clemens was actually looking better during the season in practices. Mangini even mentioned it during one of the press conferences. There is a lot to like about Ratliff, and not only his performance in the preseason. he has perfect size, athleticism, real good arm, and a decent way about him. Looks very strong and athletic too.

12-30-2008, 01:41 PM	#12
Roger Vick Banned Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,533	I'd like to see more of Ratliff. I hope they get a coach who is good with player development, because Ratliff clearly has all the tools - he just needs the right coaching staff to bring him along.

12-30-2008, 01:42 PM	#13
JamaicanJetFan START BILAL POWELL, kthx All League Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 2,690	I think, at the very least, Clemens will be a more than serviceable backup QB.

12-30-2008, 01:42 PM	#14
DaBallhawk 2013. You still suck Marky Boy. All League Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,769	Internally? Who would that be? Woody? Fatgini is gone. ****tenheimer will lose his job next. There is nobody left to think about our next QB.

12-30-2008, 01:45 PM	#15
avi31884 Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 914	Maybe Bradway:dunno:

12-30-2008, 01:46 PM	#16
BornAJet All Pro Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,634	Obviously we should be cautious on a quarterback whose only professional appearances were in preseason games, but I liked what I saw. I don't have faith that Clemens is our answer long-term, so I'd love to see what Ratliff has to offer - he looks like he has an upside at the very least.

12-30-2008, 01:48 PM	#17
2milehighJet Needs to sharpen his edges All League Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Breckenridge, CO Posts: 3,138	[QUOTE=Warfish;2943490]I believe the 2009 Jets need to allow an open competition between Clemens, Ratliff and Ainge. Winner named by the start of the 2nd pre-season game. I do not currently favor drafting a QB (tempting though it may be, this class seems to be a poor one from what experts I trust say). And I do not favor signing some veteran journeyman from someplace else. And I do not favor ANY return to the Jets by Brett Favre. Play 2009 with the three we have, and draft as appropriate post-2009 if required.[/QUOTE] I agree completley, however I saw ex-Giants coach Jim Fossel on ESPN and he thinks that signing a veteren QB would help, he doesn't think the core group of players would trust any of our young QB's, which brings up a good point, and he knows about loccer room chemisrty.

12-30-2008, 01:50 PM	#18
Jets Voice of Reason Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Rockland, New York Posts: 5,359	Kinda tough to take this statement with a straight face considering we don't know who the Head coach is, nor do we know whether the coordinators or even the GM will be retained at this point. Way to go Francessa. Make a buzzworthy topic that's unverifiable.

12-30-2008, 01:50 PM	#19
copernicus All Pro Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,128	[QUOTE=Warfish;2943490]I believe the 2009 Jets need to allow an open competition between Clemens, Ratliff and Ainge. Winner named by the start of the 2nd pre-season game. I do not currently favor drafting a QB (tempting though it may be, this class seems to be a poor one from what experts I trust say). And I do not favor signing some veteran journeyman from someplace else. And I do not favor ANY return to the Jets by Brett Favre. Play 2009 with the three we have, and draft as appropriate post-2009 if required.[/QUOTE] Totally agree with you Warfish. I have not given up on Clemens and nor should the JETS. Open competition and the best QB wins..........No way in hell do I want Favre back

12-30-2008, 01:54 PM	#20
JamaicanJetFan START BILAL POWELL, kthx All League Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 2,690	Another thing to consider is that both Clemens and Ratliff are pretty mobile. It was so excruciating to watch a wide open lane open up in front of Favre-- and instead of running for 15 yards--he'd just chuck it to nowheresville/other team.