So do we finally admit BB's a great coach? - Page 2

Phoenixx · 01-20-2009, 11:38 AM

[QUOTE=Timmy®;2979706]An a*hole, but the best coach in NFL history.[/QUOTE]

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JetFanTransplant · 01-20-2009, 11:40 AM

Interesting...

FACT - No Brady, No Playoffs, No Lie.

PatsFanTX · 01-20-2009, 11:44 AM

[QUOTE=32green;2979699]I'll take a man of honor before this guy.

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The only thing that matters in the NFL is winning.

How has all your "honor" guys worked out for you over the last 40 years? :rolleyes:

Carlton · 01-20-2009, 11:47 AM

[QUOTE=RaoulDuke;2979690]Yeah, I don't know about that one.[/QUOTE]

I didn't say Brady wasn't great...but he's nowhere near as successful if he didn't have BB. It's not a coincidence that the Pats hit the lottery TWICE with QBs. They have an unbelievable system.

Dirtstar · 01-20-2009, 11:51 AM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2979748]The only thing that matters in the NFL is winning.

How has all your "honor" guys worked out for you over the last 40 years? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

you're right, "Honor" doesn't breed winning.

just look at the Pats*: 0 SB trophies since Spygate :yes:

32green · 01-20-2009, 12:36 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2979748]The only thing that matters in the NFL is winning.

How has all your "honor" guys worked out for you over the last 40 years? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't trade a moment of it.

The journey is the thing.

Timmy® · 01-20-2009, 12:41 PM

[QUOTE=32green;2979819]I wouldn't trade a moment of it.

The journey is the thing.[/QUOTE]

Remember Bruce Coslett in those short, shiny Jets Starter jackets? Tough times.

quantum · 01-20-2009, 02:11 PM

I nominate Raoul for human sacrifice. :mad:

FF2® · 01-20-2009, 02:13 PM

[QUOTE=RaoulDuke;2979678]So do we finally admit BB's a great coach?[/QUOTE]

OK OK FINE! I admit it.

32green · 01-20-2009, 02:15 PM

[QUOTE=Timmy®;2979830]Remember Bruce Coslett in those short, shiny Jets Starter jackets? Tough times.[/QUOTE]

lol, OK, I would trade [I][B]that[/B][/I] moment for like...a bag of rocks.

woodside · 01-20-2009, 02:27 PM

[QUOTE=RaoulDuke;2979678]BB is a despicable human being. Fact.

Spygate came to the rescue last year, to those who hate him with passion, as fuel to undermine anything BB had ever accomplished. Even though they went through 95% of last year without the aide of cameras (yes my hypothesis is after Spygate erupted they stopped ‘cheating’).

Others say he’d be nothing without Brady. Well this year, Brady goes down in game 1. I giggled at the idea of having his weaknesses exposed with a JAG QB. What does the bastard do? He goes 11-5 with a no-name QB and should’ve made the playoffs if it weren’t for our ****ting the bed.

Every coordinator who’s left the nest has sucked, our failed to convince.

While we can hate him to death for being a d-bag, what’s left to hang our hat on before admitting he’s the best???

:steamin:[/QUOTE]

You do realize that BB* has made the palyoffs only 1 time in his career without Tom Brady* don't you? This year is no exception.

PatsFanTX · 01-20-2009, 02:32 PM

[QUOTE=woodside;2979998]You do realize that BB* has made the palyoffs only 1 time in his career without Tom Brady* don't you? This year is no exception.[/QUOTE]

How many times did Bill Walsh make the playoffs without Montana?

Or Knoll without Bradshaw?

Stupid arguement.

Roger Vick · 01-20-2009, 02:38 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2980008]How many times did Bill Walsh make the playoffs without Montana?

Or Knoll without Bradshaw?

Stupid arguement.[/QUOTE]

What makes it even more stupid is that Brian Billick won the Superbowl with Trent Dilfer at quarterback, yet no one wants Brian Billick to coach their team.

If winning the Superbowl with a crappy quarterback is the sign of a great coach, why isn't Brian Billick the Jets head coach? Seems like he'd be perfect.

Chica me Tipo · 01-20-2009, 02:40 PM

Bill Belichick is a great coach.

Not that hard. His resume's legit to me. Getting caught cheating sucks, but he's far from the first coach who's cheated. It's still just a game with alot of money riding on it...

chirorob · 01-20-2009, 02:41 PM

[QUOTE=Polidore22;2979751]I didn't say Brady wasn't great...but he's nowhere near as successful if he didn't have BB. It's not a coincidence that the Pats hit the lottery TWICE with QBs. They have an unbelievable system.[/QUOTE]

You could say the same thing about Joe Monatana and Steve Young.

woodside · 01-20-2009, 02:53 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2980008]How many times did Bill Walsh make the playoffs without Montana?

Or Knoll without Bradshaw?

Stupid arguement.[/QUOTE]

Only to a dumbass. Elite coaches such as Tony Dungy have made the playoffs virtually every year that they've been in the league. What's more they've done it without cheating. BB* hasn't achieved anything without Brady as QB and that is a fact.

Piper · 01-20-2009, 02:57 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2979748]The only thing that matters in the NFL is winning.

How has all your "honor" guys worked out for you over the last 40 years? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

It has built a tremendous following of real fans who stick with there team no matter what happens. As opposed to your honorless scumbag who attracts trolling bandwagon fans who only cheer for winners!

k.Rhodes25 · 01-20-2009, 02:58 PM

Belichick is NOT the greatest coach ever. To me there are better coaches in history. One of the things that I don't like about Belichick was he never had true success until he landed Brady. Sure his team did fine with Cassel this year, but truth is he played a horribly weak schedule and got beat by good teams. His dinks and dunks to Welker and Faulk with Randy Moss catching the other passes made Cassel succeed. The defense had multiple players that have been there for years with them so they know the system by heart. Their defense wasn't even impressive this year.

Better coaches than Belichick...

Bill Parcells-The man has turned around EVERY single franchise he joined. He is a better coach than Belichick no doubt, he never stayed long enough with teams to have the success of 3 SB like Belichick. He has never had a QB as good as Brady, and still won 2 SB. Could of won more with other teams also, definitely one of the best HC to ever coach in this game.

Bill Walsh-Just one of the best football minds of all time. Lots of respect for this innovative thinker.

Joe Gibbs-Won 2 SB with different QBs, makes him better IMO.

Thats a few. Belichick is a great HC, but I think he isn't the best ever.

Piper · 01-20-2009, 03:01 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2980008]How many times did Bill Walsh make the playoffs without Montana?

Or Knoll without Bradshaw?

Stupid arguement.[/QUOTE]

Except that they decided to start those guys on their own.

Mumbles would have stuck with Drew Bledsoe if not for Mo Lewis

Chica me Tipo · 01-20-2009, 03:02 PM

[QUOTE=chirorob;2980029]You could say the same thing about Joe Monatana and Steve Young.[/QUOTE]

You can't say that about any of them with rings. They are QBs with Super Bowl wins, therefore they are god-like in most ways.

01-20-2009, 11:38 AM	#21
Phoenixx Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fairfield County, CT Posts: 6,870	[QUOTE=Timmy®;2979706]An a*hole, but the best coach in NFL history.[/QUOTE] [IMG]

01-20-2009, 11:40 AM	#22
JetFanTransplant Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: On some beach... somewhere... Posts: 3,735	Interesting... FACT - No Brady, No Playoffs, No Lie.

01-20-2009, 11:44 AM	#23
PatsFanTX JI Resident Troll Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 52,068	[QUOTE=32green;2979699]I'll take a man of honor before this guy. [/QUOTE] The only thing that matters in the NFL is winning. How has all your "honor" guys worked out for you over the last 40 years? :rolleyes:

01-20-2009, 11:47 AM	#24
Carlton Teh jobless idle spawn of wealth guy. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,374	[QUOTE=RaoulDuke;2979690]Yeah, I don't know about that one.[/QUOTE] I didn't say Brady wasn't great...but he's nowhere near as successful if he didn't have BB. It's not a coincidence that the Pats hit the lottery TWICE with QBs. They have an unbelievable system.

01-20-2009, 11:51 AM	#25
Dirtstar Snubbed a man just to watch him cry. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 15,774	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2979748]The only thing that matters in the NFL is winning. How has all your "honor" guys worked out for you over the last 40 years? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] you're right, "Honor" doesn't breed winning. just look at the Pats*: 0 SB trophies since Spygate :yes:

01-20-2009, 12:36 PM	#26
32green The original road-kill pus slurper. MMMmmm pus. Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The depths of Despair. Posts: 37,672	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2979748]The only thing that matters in the NFL is winning. How has all your "honor" guys worked out for you over the last 40 years? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] I wouldn't trade a moment of it. The journey is the thing.

01-20-2009, 12:41 PM	#27
Timmy® JI's own Reverend Jim. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 23,469	[QUOTE=32green;2979819]I wouldn't trade a moment of it. The journey is the thing.[/QUOTE] Remember Bruce Coslett in those short, shiny Jets Starter jackets? Tough times.

01-20-2009, 02:11 PM	#28
quantum GFY Snatchez! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: LI Posts: 17,877	I nominate Raoul for human sacrifice. :mad:

01-20-2009, 02:13 PM	#29
FF2® Believes Sloppy Guy was involved JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 46,093	[QUOTE=RaoulDuke;2979678]So do we finally admit BB's a great coach?[/QUOTE] OK OK FINE! I admit it.

01-20-2009, 02:15 PM	#30
32green The original road-kill pus slurper. MMMmmm pus. Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The depths of Despair. Posts: 37,672	[QUOTE=Timmy®;2979830]Remember Bruce Coslett in those short, shiny Jets Starter jackets? Tough times.[/QUOTE] lol, OK, I would trade [I][B]that[/B][/I] moment for like...a bag of rocks.

01-20-2009, 02:27 PM	#31
woodside Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,191	[QUOTE=RaoulDuke;2979678]BB is a despicable human being. Fact. Spygate came to the rescue last year, to those who hate him with passion, as fuel to undermine anything BB had ever accomplished. Even though they went through 95% of last year without the aide of cameras (yes my hypothesis is after Spygate erupted they stopped ‘cheating’). Others say he’d be nothing without Brady. Well this year, Brady goes down in game 1. I giggled at the idea of having his weaknesses exposed with a JAG QB. What does the bastard do? He goes 11-5 with a no-name QB and should’ve made the playoffs if it weren’t for our ***ting the bed. Every coordinator who’s left the nest has sucked, our failed to convince. While we can hate him to death for being a d-bag, what’s left to hang our hat on before admitting he’s the best??? :steamin:[/QUOTE] You do realize that BB has made the palyoffs only 1 time in his career without Tom Brady* don't you? This year is no exception.

01-20-2009, 02:32 PM	#32
PatsFanTX JI Resident Troll Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 52,068	[QUOTE=woodside;2979998]You do realize that BB* has made the palyoffs only 1 time in his career without Tom Brady* don't you? This year is no exception.[/QUOTE] How many times did Bill Walsh make the playoffs without Montana? Or Knoll without Bradshaw? Stupid arguement.

01-20-2009, 02:38 PM	#33
Roger Vick Banned Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,533	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2980008]How many times did Bill Walsh make the playoffs without Montana? Or Knoll without Bradshaw? Stupid arguement.[/QUOTE] What makes it even more stupid is that Brian Billick won the Superbowl with Trent Dilfer at quarterback, yet no one wants Brian Billick to coach their team. If winning the Superbowl with a crappy quarterback is the sign of a great coach, why isn't Brian Billick the Jets head coach? Seems like he'd be perfect.

01-20-2009, 02:40 PM	#34
Chica me Tipo endorsing Braylon Edwards. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,826	Bill Belichick is a great coach. Not that hard. His resume's legit to me. Getting caught cheating sucks, but he's far from the first coach who's cheated. It's still just a game with alot of money riding on it...

01-20-2009, 02:41 PM	#35
chirorob Draft the best available player. All Pro Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In transit Posts: 5,801	[QUOTE=Polidore22;2979751]I didn't say Brady wasn't great...but he's nowhere near as successful if he didn't have BB. It's not a coincidence that the Pats hit the lottery TWICE with QBs. They have an unbelievable system.[/QUOTE] You could say the same thing about Joe Monatana and Steve Young.

01-20-2009, 02:53 PM	#36
woodside Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,191	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2980008]How many times did Bill Walsh make the playoffs without Montana? Or Knoll without Bradshaw? Stupid arguement.[/QUOTE] Only to a dumbass. Elite coaches such as Tony Dungy have made the playoffs virtually every year that they've been in the league. What's more they've done it without cheating. BB* hasn't achieved anything without Brady as QB and that is a fact.

01-20-2009, 02:57 PM	#37
Piper Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: L.I. NY (where the Jets used to be from) Posts: 13,197	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2979748]The only thing that matters in the NFL is winning. How has all your "honor" guys worked out for you over the last 40 years? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] It has built a tremendous following of real fans who stick with there team no matter what happens. As opposed to your honorless scumbag who attracts trolling bandwagon fans who only cheer for winners!

01-20-2009, 02:58 PM	#38
k.Rhodes25 All League Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,873	Belichick is NOT the greatest coach ever. To me there are better coaches in history. One of the things that I don't like about Belichick was he never had true success until he landed Brady. Sure his team did fine with Cassel this year, but truth is he played a horribly weak schedule and got beat by good teams. His dinks and dunks to Welker and Faulk with Randy Moss catching the other passes made Cassel succeed. The defense had multiple players that have been there for years with them so they know the system by heart. Their defense wasn't even impressive this year. Better coaches than Belichick... Bill Parcells-The man has turned around EVERY single franchise he joined. He is a better coach than Belichick no doubt, he never stayed long enough with teams to have the success of 3 SB like Belichick. He has never had a QB as good as Brady, and still won 2 SB. Could of won more with other teams also, definitely one of the best HC to ever coach in this game. Bill Walsh-Just one of the best football minds of all time. Lots of respect for this innovative thinker. Joe Gibbs-Won 2 SB with different QBs, makes him better IMO. Thats a few. Belichick is a great HC, but I think he isn't the best ever.

01-20-2009, 03:01 PM	#39
Piper Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: L.I. NY (where the Jets used to be from) Posts: 13,197	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2980008]How many times did Bill Walsh make the playoffs without Montana? Or Knoll without Bradshaw? Stupid arguement.[/QUOTE] Except that they decided to start those guys on their own. Mumbles would have stuck with Drew Bledsoe if not for Mo Lewis

01-20-2009, 03:02 PM	#40
Chica me Tipo endorsing Braylon Edwards. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,826	[QUOTE=chirorob;2980029]You could say the same thing about Joe Monatana and Steve Young.[/QUOTE] You can't say that about any of them with rings. They are QBs with Super Bowl wins, therefore they are god-like in most ways.