Should we trade for Torry Holt?

jims jetts · 03-04-2009, 07:18 PM

Torry Holt asks the Rams for his release

Torry Holt has requested to be released by the Rams.

The Rams have found no takers while shopping Holt, likely because the rest of the league knows they don't intend to pay his $1.25M roster bonus on March 17. Failing to exercise the bonus would terminate Holt's contract and make him a free agent. The Rams probably aren't going to get anything for him. Mar. 4 - 7:02 pm et
Source: St Louis Post-Dispatch

I say we offer a third round pick for him!

Ven0m · 03-04-2009, 07:19 PM

He's done.

SUJets1988 · 03-04-2009, 07:20 PM

[QUOTE=jims jetts;3034869]Torry Holt asks the Rams for his release

Torry Holt has requested to be released by the Rams.

The Rams have found no takers while shopping Holt, likely because the rest of the league knows they don't intend to pay his $1.25M roster bonus on March 17. Failing to exercise the bonus would terminate Holt's contract and make him a free agent. The Rams probably aren't going to get anything for him. Mar. 4 - 7:02 pm et
Source: St Louis Post-Dispatch

I say we offer a third round pick for him![/QUOTE]

Lol, why would we trade for him when that blurb clearly states he is 97% likely to be released?

John_0515 · 03-04-2009, 07:21 PM

[QUOTE=jims jetts;3034869]Torry Holt asks the Rams for his release

Torry Holt has requested to be released by the Rams.

The Rams have found no takers while shopping Holt, likely because the rest of the league knows they don't intend to pay his $1.25M roster bonus on March 17. Failing to exercise the bonus would terminate Holt's contract and make him a free agent. The Rams probably aren't going to get anything for him. Mar. 4 - 7:02 pm et
Source: St Louis Post-Dispatch

I say we offer a third round pick for him![/QUOTE]

If we're going to offer a 3rd for a WR, it's not going to be Holt.

Moss went for a 4th

Owens for a 2nd

Welker for a 2nd

Holt isn't the caliber of any of those guys any more.

McCareins did grab a second, but I'm going to forget about that right now.

Ruby2 · 03-04-2009, 07:22 PM

:bangwall:

Cack89 · 03-04-2009, 07:22 PM

I would DEF take a look at Holt, only if he'd be our 3rd reciever, and still draft a guy like Bey,Nicks,or Britt.

jims jetts · 03-04-2009, 07:22 PM

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crasherino · 03-04-2009, 07:27 PM

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rlucas4137 · 03-04-2009, 07:27 PM

I believe Cotchery broke alot of Holt's records @ NC State.

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 03-04-2009, 07:30 PM

[QUOTE=Cack89;3034881]I would DEF take a look at Holt, only if he'd be our 3rd reciever, and still draft a guy like Bey,Nicks,or Britt.[/QUOTE]

Why? Stuckey is a competent sure handed receiver...

Why take him out of the offense when you'll hardly ever see more than a 3 receiver look?

Between the draft, Cotchery, Stuckey, Keller and Washington, I don't see our WR corp as detrimental to the team as most...

It's solid but still missing the #1 guy. We lost a #2 guy and people are freaking out.

Stuckey is a #2... Cotch is a #2... Clowney is a good candidate to line up as the #3 as well as Brad Smith who we've yet to see utilized as a true receiving option...

We're missing our Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss, etc...

The big, fast, can't miss, sure handed route runner...

He's in the draft this year... Maclin, DHB, Nicks... Whoever... Go get him, we'll be just fine.

It's not like we're planning on throwing the pall 40 times a game anyway.

John_0515 · 03-04-2009, 07:31 PM

[QUOTE=AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite;3034898]Why? Stuckey is a competent sure handed receiver...

Why take him out of the offense when you'll hardly ever see more than a 3 receiver look?

Between the draft, Cotchery, Stuckey, Keller and Washington, I don't see our WR corp as detrimental to the team as most...

It's solid but still missing the #1 guy. We lost a #2 guy and people are freaking out.

Stuckey is a #2... Cotch is a #2... Clowney is a good candidate to line up as the #3 as well as Brad Smith who we've yet to see utilized as a true receiving option...

We're missing our Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss, etc...

The big, fast, can't miss, sure handed route runner...

He's in the draft this year... Maclin, DHB, Nicks... Whoever... Go get him, we'll be just fine.

It's not like we're planning on throwing the pall 40 times a game anyway.[/QUOTE]

Good post.

NYDreamer · 03-04-2009, 07:32 PM

Henry Ellard is currently our WR coach and for the last 6-8 years he worked in the same position with the Rams. I think Stuckey will be a very good player for us and he has built chemistry with the 3 QB's we have on our roster. Adding a young player like Hicks would be a better move than bringing in Holt who is at the end of his career.

JETZONI · 03-04-2009, 07:33 PM

we delt our 5th rd for this year... and one for next year for Sheepard... leaves us 6 picks left for this year... I'd rather go for youth... draft a wr

jims jetts · 03-04-2009, 07:37 PM

[QUOTE=JETZONI;3034908]we delt our 5th rd for this year... and one for next year for Sheepard... leaves us 6 picks left for this year... I'd rather go for youth... draft a wr[/QUOTE]

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KRL · 03-04-2009, 07:38 PM

Enough with the over 30 WR's. We have three young WR's who should
be given the opportunity to take spots:

Stuckey
Clowney
Henry

And we are certain to draft a WR with one of our top picks. Everyone is
always complaining about how we need speed at WR then they want to
pick up over 30 WR's, makes no sense

VincenzoTestaverde · 03-04-2009, 07:43 PM

Holt is finished. Fuggedaboutit.

John_0515 · 03-04-2009, 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=KRL;3034920]Enough with the over 30 WR's. We have three young WR's who should
be given the opportunity to take spots:

Stuckey
Clowney
Henry

And we are certain to draft a WR with one of our top picks. Everyone is
always complaining about how we need speed at WR then they want to
pick up over 30 WR's, makes no sense[/QUOTE]

How's Clowney's injury from last year? Any news on that?

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 03-04-2009, 07:51 PM

[QUOTE=John_0515;3034941]How's Clowney's injury from last year? Any news on that?[/QUOTE]

He was injury free when he had his first NFL reception toward the end of the season :D

He was good to go by week 3 as far as I knew...

jeT.MAC · 03-04-2009, 08:06 PM

[QUOTE=Ruby2;3034880]:bangwall:[/QUOTE]

6'3 218 lbs.! The jets might have to trade up to get him when its all said and done. :cool:

KRL · 03-04-2009, 08:26 PM

[QUOTE=John_0515;3034941]How's Clowney's injury from last year? Any news on that?[/QUOTE]

Clowney was fine Mangini just didn't get around to activating him until
the end of the season. You may be talking about Marcus Henry but
he was never hurt they just stashed him on the practice squad last
year. People shouldn't sleep on him he's 6-4 about 215 pounds and
catches the ball very easily. Because he's so tall when he runs it seems
like he's not moving very fast but each of his strides is chewing up alot
of ground. The "problem" he had was his torso is so long he had trouble
protecting his chest so CB's in camp were tying him up at the line of
scrimmage. The WR coach (Mazzone) was working with him on this, I
don't think they played him alot in pre-season because I don't think the
Jets wanted the rest of the league to see him. If they did someone would
have picked him off of our practice squad just like Derrick Ward.

03-04-2009, 07:22 PM	#7
jims jetts a proud father for the third time Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Barnegat,NJ Posts: 696	If we trade for him we make sure we get him! [url]

03-04-2009, 07:37 PM	#14
jims jetts a proud father for the third time Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Barnegat,NJ Posts: 696	I see your point but i want the sure thing in Holt! [QUOTE=JETZONI;3034908]we delt our 5th rd for this year... and one for next year for Sheepard... leaves us 6 picks left for this year... I'd rather go for youth... draft a wr[/QUOTE] [url]

03-04-2009, 07:18 PM	#1
jims jetts a proud father for the third time Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Barnegat,NJ Posts: 696	Should we trade for Torry Holt? Torry Holt asks the Rams for his release Torry Holt has requested to be released by the Rams. The Rams have found no takers while shopping Holt, likely because the rest of the league knows they don't intend to pay his $1.25M roster bonus on March 17. Failing to exercise the bonus would terminate Holt's contract and make him a free agent. The Rams probably aren't going to get anything for him. Mar. 4 - 7:02 pm et Source: St Louis Post-Dispatch I say we offer a third round pick for him!

03-04-2009, 07:19 PM	#2
Ven0m a shutdown poster Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NY Posts: 18,349	He's done.

03-04-2009, 07:20 PM	#3
SUJets1988 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 5,842	[QUOTE=jims jetts;3034869]Torry Holt asks the Rams for his release Torry Holt has requested to be released by the Rams. The Rams have found no takers while shopping Holt, likely because the rest of the league knows they don't intend to pay his $1.25M roster bonus on March 17. Failing to exercise the bonus would terminate Holt's contract and make him a free agent. The Rams probably aren't going to get anything for him. Mar. 4 - 7:02 pm et Source: St Louis Post-Dispatch I say we offer a third round pick for him![/QUOTE] Lol, why would we trade for him when that blurb clearly states he is 97% likely to be released?

03-04-2009, 07:21 PM	#4
John_0515 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 21,224	[QUOTE=jims jetts;3034869]Torry Holt asks the Rams for his release Torry Holt has requested to be released by the Rams. The Rams have found no takers while shopping Holt, likely because the rest of the league knows they don't intend to pay his $1.25M roster bonus on March 17. Failing to exercise the bonus would terminate Holt's contract and make him a free agent. The Rams probably aren't going to get anything for him. Mar. 4 - 7:02 pm et Source: St Louis Post-Dispatch I say we offer a third round pick for him![/QUOTE] If we're going to offer a 3rd for a WR, it's not going to be Holt. Moss went for a 4th Owens for a 2nd Welker for a 2nd Holt isn't the caliber of any of those guys any more. McCareins did grab a second, but I'm going to forget about that right now.

03-04-2009, 07:22 PM	#5
Ruby2 Patron and Grapefruit Juice Bitchess!!! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jerseystrong Posts: 17,100	:bangwall:

03-04-2009, 07:22 PM	#6
Cack89 Come out and enjoy the draft with uSTADIUM Veteran Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NY Posts: 2,173	I would DEF take a look at Holt, only if he'd be our 3rd reciever, and still draft a guy like Bey,Nicks,or Britt.

03-04-2009, 07:27 PM	#8
crasherino Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 16,937	Deleted

03-04-2009, 07:27 PM	#9
rlucas4137 Practice Squad Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 458	I believe Cotchery broke alot of Holt's records @ NC State.

03-04-2009, 07:30 PM	#10
AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite is all out of fuCks to give... All Pro Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7,489	[QUOTE=Cack89;3034881]I would DEF take a look at Holt, only if he'd be our 3rd reciever, and still draft a guy like Bey,Nicks,or Britt.[/QUOTE] Why? Stuckey is a competent sure handed receiver... Why take him out of the offense when you'll hardly ever see more than a 3 receiver look? Between the draft, Cotchery, Stuckey, Keller and Washington, I don't see our WR corp as detrimental to the team as most... It's solid but still missing the #1 guy. We lost a #2 guy and people are freaking out. Stuckey is a #2... Cotch is a #2... Clowney is a good candidate to line up as the #3 as well as Brad Smith who we've yet to see utilized as a true receiving option... We're missing our Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss, etc... The big, fast, can't miss, sure handed route runner... He's in the draft this year... Maclin, DHB, Nicks... Whoever... Go get him, we'll be just fine. It's not like we're planning on throwing the pall 40 times a game anyway.

03-04-2009, 07:31 PM	#11
John_0515 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 21,224	[QUOTE=AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite;3034898]Why? Stuckey is a competent sure handed receiver... Why take him out of the offense when you'll hardly ever see more than a 3 receiver look? Between the draft, Cotchery, Stuckey, Keller and Washington, I don't see our WR corp as detrimental to the team as most... It's solid but still missing the #1 guy. We lost a #2 guy and people are freaking out. Stuckey is a #2... Cotch is a #2... Clowney is a good candidate to line up as the #3 as well as Brad Smith who we've yet to see utilized as a true receiving option... We're missing our Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss, etc... The big, fast, can't miss, sure handed route runner... He's in the draft this year... Maclin, DHB, Nicks... Whoever... Go get him, we'll be just fine. It's not like we're planning on throwing the pall 40 times a game anyway.[/QUOTE] Good post.

03-04-2009, 07:32 PM	#12
NYDreamer Dreaming of a Jets Superbowl Practice Squad Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 468	Henry Ellard is currently our WR coach and for the last 6-8 years he worked in the same position with the Rams. I think Stuckey will be a very good player for us and he has built chemistry with the 3 QB's we have on our roster. Adding a young player like Hicks would be a better move than bringing in Holt who is at the end of his career.

03-04-2009, 07:33 PM	#13
JETZONI Veteran Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 990	we delt our 5th rd for this year... and one for next year for Sheepard... leaves us 6 picks left for this year... I'd rather go for youth... draft a wr

03-04-2009, 07:38 PM	#15
KRL Veteran Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,723	Enough with the over 30 WR's. We have three young WR's who should be given the opportunity to take spots: Stuckey Clowney Henry And we are certain to draft a WR with one of our top picks. Everyone is always complaining about how we need speed at WR then they want to pick up over 30 WR's, makes no sense

03-04-2009, 07:43 PM	#16
VincenzoTestaverde laughing at the Pledge Against America Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 9,162	Holt is finished. Fuggedaboutit.

03-04-2009, 07:49 PM	#17
John_0515 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 21,224	[QUOTE=KRL;3034920]Enough with the over 30 WR's. We have three young WR's who should be given the opportunity to take spots: Stuckey Clowney Henry And we are certain to draft a WR with one of our top picks. Everyone is always complaining about how we need speed at WR then they want to pick up over 30 WR's, makes no sense[/QUOTE] How's Clowney's injury from last year? Any news on that?

03-04-2009, 07:51 PM	#18
AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite is all out of fuCks to give... All Pro Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7,489	[QUOTE=John_0515;3034941]How's Clowney's injury from last year? Any news on that?[/QUOTE] He was injury free when he had his first NFL reception toward the end of the season :D He was good to go by week 3 as far as I knew...

03-04-2009, 08:06 PM	#19
jeT.MAC All Pro Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,543	[QUOTE=Ruby2;3034880]:bangwall:[/QUOTE] 6'3 218 lbs.! The jets might have to trade up to get him when its all said and done. :cool:

03-04-2009, 08:26 PM	#20
KRL Veteran Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,723	[QUOTE=John_0515;3034941]How's Clowney's injury from last year? Any news on that?[/QUOTE] Clowney was fine Mangini just didn't get around to activating him until the end of the season. You may be talking about Marcus Henry but he was never hurt they just stashed him on the practice squad last year. People shouldn't sleep on him he's 6-4 about 215 pounds and catches the ball very easily. Because he's so tall when he runs it seems like he's not moving very fast but each of his strides is chewing up alot of ground. The "problem" he had was his torso is so long he had trouble protecting his chest so CB's in camp were tying him up at the line of scrimmage. The WR coach (Mazzone) was working with him on this, I don't think they played him alot in pre-season because I don't think the Jets wanted the rest of the league to see him. If they did someone would have picked him off of our practice squad just like Derrick Ward.