No surprise -Jets were healthiest team in NFL in 2008

Jerricho89 · 03-10-2009, 11:37 AM

See link to FO article:

[url]http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2009/2008-adjusted-games-lost#comment-699117[/url]

John_0515 · 03-10-2009, 11:37 AM

Yet we still blew it.

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 03-10-2009, 11:39 AM

I can't remember anyone really getting hurt but Eric Smith (Boldin) and David Clowney in preseason... Jeez Forgot Harris...

Can't pull up the article but who else was there?

PatsFanTX · 03-10-2009, 11:40 AM

[QUOTE=John_0515;3041348]Yet we still blew it.[/QUOTE]

Wow, the healthiest team in the NFL winds up with a 3rd place finish in the AFCE.

RaoulDuke · 03-10-2009, 11:43 AM

Yeah but unfortunately the only guy who was injured played the last 5 games.

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 03-10-2009, 11:43 AM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;3041356]Wow, the healthiest team in the NFL winds up with a 3rd place finish in the AFCE.[/QUOTE]

Funny, we still effectively ended your season ;)

JStokes · 03-10-2009, 11:45 AM

Other than David Harris NO ONE from our core got hurt.

No one.

Our O-line was intact all year.

RBs? Can't count Chatman, but the rest healthy.

WRs and TEs? Nope.

QB? Favre? Maybe he should have.

D-line no issues.

LBs (other than Harris)? Nada.

DBs? Healthy all year (Smith getting hurt opened it up for Elam).

Kickers? Special teams? Feely was more than adequate.

We had NO major injuries other than Harris. Nothing catastrophic.

We can't even hope that next year will be as easy.

John_0515 · 03-10-2009, 11:47 AM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;3041356]Wow, the healthiest team in the NFL winds up with a 3rd place finish in the AFCE.[/QUOTE]

And surprisingly the same number of playoff victories as the Pats.

PatsFanTX · 03-10-2009, 11:49 AM

[QUOTE=John_0515;3041372]And surprisingly the same number of playoff victories as the Pats.[/QUOTE]

Did you see where the Pats finished on that list compared to the Jets? :rolleyes:

Also, losing the best QB in the NFL for the entire season didn't help matters.

RaoulDuke · 03-10-2009, 11:52 AM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;3041375]Did you see where the Pats finished on that list compared to the Jets? :rolleyes:

Also, losing the best QB in the NFL for the entire season didn't help matters.[/QUOTE]

And having to count on the Jets to get into the playoffs doesn't help either :D

PatsFanTX · 03-10-2009, 11:56 AM

[QUOTE=JStokes;3041369]Other than David Harris NO ONE from our core got hurt.

No one.

[/QUOTE]

Nugent got an ingrown toe nail in the opener against the Phins.

At the time, he was the Jets starting PK.

John_0515 · 03-10-2009, 11:58 AM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;3041375]Did you see where the Pats finished on that list compared to the Jets? :rolleyes:

Also, losing the best QB in the NFL for the entire season didn't help matters.[/QUOTE]

You probably would have had a decent shot to go to the playoffs and do something there considering the way the playoffs transpired.

But instead you had new years dinner with us.

Ray Ray19 · 03-10-2009, 12:01 PM

And the Jets were rolling at 8-3 as Favre became comfortable in the offense after joining us late during the middle of training camp, then he got hurt.

When you lose or your starting QB gets hurt during the last half of the season, it affects a team. Same can be said for Jenkins back injury.

Chica me Tipo · 03-10-2009, 12:03 PM

I don't buy it...I think Favre and Jenkins weren't close to healthy down the stretch...quality > quantity.

PaPZ187 · 03-10-2009, 12:07 PM

[QUOTE=AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite;3041366]Funny, we still effectively ended your season ;)[/QUOTE]

LOL man I watched that final Miami game w/a bunch of my friends which are all Pats fans since i live like 30 minutes outside of Boston and after Favres last pick I was so mad but Baltimore was blowing out Jacksonville so if we won the Pats would of made the playoffs but we were eliminated either way so i was very quiet and frusturated until the game was over and then I just raised my arms in the air and said "We eliminated the Patriots" w/a smile on my face and all my boys were saying man now I know how much it sucks to be a Jets fan when your team loses and your happy, but hey its a nice complimentry prize to eliminate the Pats, better then us winning and they make the playoffs...

jets31 · 03-10-2009, 12:09 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;3041375]Did you see where the Pats finished on that list compared to the Jets? :rolleyes:

Also, losing the best QB in the NFL for the entire season didn't help matters.[/QUOTE]

I dont recall the Pats trading for Peyton Manning last year or him getting hurt.

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 03-10-2009, 12:15 PM

[QUOTE=PaPZ187;3041409]LOL man I watched that final Miami game w/a bunch of my friends which are all Pats fans since i live like 30 minutes outside of Boston and after Favres last pick I was so mad but Baltimore was blowing out Jacksonville so if we won the Pats would of made the playoffs but we were eliminated either way so i was very quiet and frusturated until the game was over and then I just raised my arms in the air and said "We eliminated the Patriots" w/a smile on my face and all my boys were saying man now I know how much it sucks to be a Jets fan when your team loses and your happy, but hey its a nice complimentry prize to eliminate the Pats, better then us winning and they make the playoffs...[/QUOTE]

I had mixed feelings about it as well...

The whole Chad debacle (not that I miss him) Favre's last 5 games, Our inept secondary/LB core... Jenks losing his lock on the middle.

You could tell it was going to end bad but at the end of the day, give it to Miami because I knew they'd be one and done...

It all worked out though. Now, we're back to being offseason champs and ready to get our hopes up for another season :yes:

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 03-10-2009, 12:18 PM

[QUOTE=jets31;3041413]I dont recall the Pats trading for Peyton Manning or [B]Drew Brees[/B] last year or them getting hurt.[/QUOTE]

FIXED

:D

[IMG]http://www.lolpats.com/images/epic_fail.jpg[/IMG]

Ven0m · 03-10-2009, 12:21 PM

A) As touched on, there is a big difference between being healthy, and being healthy enough to play. Favre and Jenkins obviously faded down the stretch due to injuries.

B) I do believe that being healthy to some degree is a repeatable skill. Some players are just more durable then others. You see it all the time in professional sports where some players are just "Injury Prone". The Jets have done a pretty good job over the years in avoiding (or moving) those types.

PatsFanTX · 03-10-2009, 12:25 PM

[QUOTE=Ray Ray19;3041399]

When you lose or your starting QB gets hurt during the last half of the season, it affects a team.

[/QUOTE]

No it doesn't.

That's why teams have back-up QB's.

Pats didn't miss a beat at the QB position when Brady went down.

If Favre was hurt, someone else should have taken his place.

03-10-2009, 11:37 AM	#1
Jerricho89 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,348	No surprise -Jets were healthiest team in NFL in 2008 See link to FO article: [url]http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2009/2008-adjusted-games-lost#comment-699117[/url]

03-10-2009, 11:39 AM	#3
AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite is all out of fuCks to give... All Pro Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7,444	I can't remember anyone really getting hurt but Eric Smith (Boldin) and David Clowney in preseason... Jeez Forgot Harris... Can't pull up the article but who else was there? Last edited by AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite; 03-10-2009 at 11:53 AM.

03-10-2009, 11:37 AM	#2
John_0515 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 21,121	Yet we still blew it.

03-10-2009, 11:40 AM	#4
PatsFanTX JI Resident Troll Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 52,068	[QUOTE=John_0515;3041348]Yet we still blew it.[/QUOTE] Wow, the healthiest team in the NFL winds up with a 3rd place finish in the AFCE.

03-10-2009, 11:43 AM	#5
RaoulDuke Son of Ham Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Paris, France Posts: 11,869	Yeah but unfortunately the only guy who was injured played the last 5 games.

03-10-2009, 11:45 AM	#7
JStokes Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen County, NJ Posts: 20,126	Other than David Harris NO ONE from our core got hurt. No one. Our O-line was intact all year. RBs? Can't count Chatman, but the rest healthy. WRs and TEs? Nope. QB? Favre? Maybe he should have. D-line no issues. LBs (other than Harris)? Nada. DBs? Healthy all year (Smith getting hurt opened it up for Elam). Kickers? Special teams? Feely was more than adequate. We had NO major injuries other than Harris. Nothing catastrophic. We can't even hope that next year will be as easy.

03-10-2009, 11:47 AM	#8
John_0515 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 21,121	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;3041356]Wow, the healthiest team in the NFL winds up with a 3rd place finish in the AFCE.[/QUOTE] And surprisingly the same number of playoff victories as the Pats.

03-10-2009, 11:49 AM	#9
PatsFanTX JI Resident Troll Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 52,068	[QUOTE=John_0515;3041372]And surprisingly the same number of playoff victories as the Pats.[/QUOTE] Did you see where the Pats finished on that list compared to the Jets? :rolleyes: Also, losing the best QB in the NFL for the entire season didn't help matters.

03-10-2009, 11:52 AM	#10
RaoulDuke Son of Ham Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Paris, France Posts: 11,869	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;3041375]Did you see where the Pats finished on that list compared to the Jets? :rolleyes: Also, losing the best QB in the NFL for the entire season didn't help matters.[/QUOTE] And having to count on the Jets to get into the playoffs doesn't help either :D

03-10-2009, 11:56 AM	#11
PatsFanTX JI Resident Troll Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 52,068	[QUOTE=JStokes;3041369]Other than David Harris NO ONE from our core got hurt. No one. [/QUOTE] Nugent got an ingrown toe nail in the opener against the Phins. At the time, he was the Jets starting PK.

03-10-2009, 11:58 AM	#12
John_0515 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 21,121	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;3041375]Did you see where the Pats finished on that list compared to the Jets? :rolleyes: Also, losing the best QB in the NFL for the entire season didn't help matters.[/QUOTE] You probably would have had a decent shot to go to the playoffs and do something there considering the way the playoffs transpired. But instead you had new years dinner with us.

03-10-2009, 12:01 PM	#13
Ray Ray19 Not a SOJF Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 13,797	And the Jets were rolling at 8-3 as Favre became comfortable in the offense after joining us late during the middle of training camp, then he got hurt. When you lose or your starting QB gets hurt during the last half of the season, it affects a team. Same can be said for Jenkins back injury.

03-10-2009, 12:03 PM	#14
Chica me Tipo endorsing Braylon Edwards. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,826	I don't buy it...I think Favre and Jenkins weren't close to healthy down the stretch...quality > quantity.

03-10-2009, 12:07 PM	#15
PaPZ187 NO paper bag over my face...still GREEN and WHITE till I die! All League Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lawrence, MA Posts: 3,063	[QUOTE=AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite;3041366]Funny, we still effectively ended your season ;)[/QUOTE] LOL man I watched that final Miami game w/a bunch of my friends which are all Pats fans since i live like 30 minutes outside of Boston and after Favres last pick I was so mad but Baltimore was blowing out Jacksonville so if we won the Pats would of made the playoffs but we were eliminated either way so i was very quiet and frusturated until the game was over and then I just raised my arms in the air and said "We eliminated the Patriots" w/a smile on my face and all my boys were saying man now I know how much it sucks to be a Jets fan when your team loses and your happy, but hey its a nice complimentry prize to eliminate the Pats, better then us winning and they make the playoffs...

03-10-2009, 12:09 PM	#16
jets31 ready to NARFLE THE GARTHOK! Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ithaca, NY Posts: 1,877	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;3041375]Did you see where the Pats finished on that list compared to the Jets? :rolleyes: Also, losing the best QB in the NFL for the entire season didn't help matters.[/QUOTE] I dont recall the Pats trading for Peyton Manning last year or him getting hurt.

03-10-2009, 12:15 PM	#17
AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite is all out of fuCks to give... All Pro Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7,444	[QUOTE=PaPZ187;3041409]LOL man I watched that final Miami game w/a bunch of my friends which are all Pats fans since i live like 30 minutes outside of Boston and after Favres last pick I was so mad but Baltimore was blowing out Jacksonville so if we won the Pats would of made the playoffs but we were eliminated either way so i was very quiet and frusturated until the game was over and then I just raised my arms in the air and said "We eliminated the Patriots" w/a smile on my face and all my boys were saying man now I know how much it sucks to be a Jets fan when your team loses and your happy, but hey its a nice complimentry prize to eliminate the Pats, better then us winning and they make the playoffs...[/QUOTE] I had mixed feelings about it as well... The whole Chad debacle (not that I miss him) Favre's last 5 games, Our inept secondary/LB core... Jenks losing his lock on the middle. You could tell it was going to end bad but at the end of the day, give it to Miami because I knew they'd be one and done... It all worked out though. Now, we're back to being offseason champs and ready to get our hopes up for another season :yes:

03-10-2009, 12:18 PM	#18
AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite is all out of fuCks to give... All Pro Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7,444	[QUOTE=jets31;3041413]I dont recall the Pats trading for Peyton Manning or [B]Drew Brees[/B] last year or them getting hurt.[/QUOTE] FIXED :D [IMG]http://www.lolpats.com/images/epic_fail.jpg[/IMG]

03-10-2009, 12:21 PM	#19
Ven0m a shutdown poster Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NY Posts: 18,349	A) As touched on, there is a big difference between being healthy, and being healthy enough to play. Favre and Jenkins obviously faded down the stretch due to injuries. B) I do believe that being healthy to some degree is a repeatable skill. Some players are just more durable then others. You see it all the time in professional sports where some players are just "Injury Prone". The Jets have done a pretty good job over the years in avoiding (or moving) those types.

03-10-2009, 12:25 PM	#20
PatsFanTX JI Resident Troll Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 52,068	[QUOTE=Ray Ray19;3041399] When you lose or your starting QB gets hurt during the last half of the season, it affects a team. [/QUOTE] No it doesn't. That's why teams have back-up QB's. Pats didn't miss a beat at the QB position when Brady went down. If Favre was hurt, someone else should have taken his place.