Other than some of the posters on JI......

copernicus · 04-26-2009, 03:03 PM

Other than some of the posters on JI has anyone found a commentator, expert or analyst that has something negative to say about Mark Sanchez? Someone on the NFL Network or ESPN that thinks he will not succeed?

It seems that universally everyone believes this kid will succeed. In comparison, Matt Stafford has many doubters and some even believe that Sanchez is better. I cant say that I can look at Sanchez physically and say "this kid will succeed" but it is reassuring to hear ALL of the experts on the same page about him...........

tavarua6285 · 04-26-2009, 03:09 PM

NOPE...not a single one. But then again, the well educated, well versed football personnel experts on here are the only opinions that matter, right? ;)

Beerfish · 04-26-2009, 03:13 PM

That is a valid point but to be honest, most experts don't know the total make up of the team like a lot of fans on here do.

They don't know clemens, they don't know how many real holes we have on the team, they know things player by player but they do not know the team.

I'm enouraged that so many experts think so highly of the guy, a respected guy in Jaws thought clemens was the real deal.

simijet · 04-26-2009, 03:19 PM

[QUOTE=Beerfish;3104231]That is a valid point but to be honest, most experts don't know the total make up of the team like a lot of fans on here do.

They don't know clemens, they don't know how many real holes we have on the team, they know things player by player but they do not know the team.

I'm enouraged that so many experts think so highly of the guy, a respected guy in Jaws thought clemens was the real deal.[/QUOTE]

So true. While these guys are better equipped to make an impartial analysis, they don't know the team like we do. For that matter, Rex doesn't really know yet either.

copernicus · 04-26-2009, 03:21 PM

[QUOTE=Beerfish;3104231]That is a valid point but to be honest, most experts don't know the total make up of the team like a lot of fans on here do.

They don't know clemens, they don't know how many real holes we have on the team, they know things player by player but they do not know the team.

I'm enouraged that so many experts think so highly of the guy, a respected guy in Jaws thought clemens was the real deal.[/QUOTE]

Agreed Beerfish. I argue with many of the fans in my circle that Jaws thinks highly of Clemens and how that means "something." The difference is that some "experts" thought Clemens was "not great" while I cant find any that criticize Sanchez at all. Even Stafford was not universally loved. It is encouraging is all that I'm thinking...............

fullblast · 04-26-2009, 03:28 PM

The only real knock I have heard on him is based around his lack of experience. None of the "experts" are questioning his game as far as physical ability, mechanics, football smarts, etc. Over the past weekend, they have thrown more of those questions towards Stafford and Freeman but they are absolutely glowing about Sanchez. Maybe it's just the hype, but I like what i'm hearing so far.

LesterLyles · 04-26-2009, 03:28 PM

Im not sure why anyone w/ a brain would dislike what the Jets did. The Jets got very lucky they made a trade w/ a former coach that coveted our JAGS. And not to say this wasnt a good move for Clevealand. I would love to get a couple of Ryab's JAGs; it helps in building things. This was a pefect marriage for a QB that has everything you would want.

SigmaXJet · 04-26-2009, 03:30 PM

[QUOTE=copernicus;3104197]Other than some of the posters on JI has anyone found a commentator, expert or analyst that has something negative to say about Mark Sanchez? Someone on the NFL Network or ESPN that thinks he will not succeed?
[/QUOTE]

typical Jet fan statement. why can't you just enjoy that we have a franchise QB for years to come?

BIGKIDD325 · 04-26-2009, 03:30 PM

Ray Lucason on SNY didn't like the move. That's really it. He said Sanchez could be very good, but he didn't think it was the right move for other reasons.

I said this somewhere last night, everyone likes this. It was a great move.

Warfish · 04-26-2009, 03:45 PM

[QUOTE=SigmaXJet;3104283]typical Jet fan statement. why can't you just enjoy that we have a franchise QB for years to come?[/QUOTE]

I can only speak for me....

Because right now, Sanchez is not a "Franchise QB".

He's a very expensive Draft Pick, who hasn't thrown a pass yet. He's short. His Arm Strength is a potential issue (or so I hear).

And getting him cost us picks and players, on a team that wasn't very deep at all.

copernicus · 04-26-2009, 03:45 PM

[QUOTE=SigmaXJet;3104283]typical Jet fan statement. why can't you just enjoy that we have a franchise QB for years to come?[/QUOTE]

Nothing is garenteed and it is interesting to me to discuss all aspects of the draft especially a major move that is made by the JETS. I am not unhappy with our move. Not the least. I am actually excited that commentators and experts universally are on the same page about Sanchez. I think you might be reading me wrong..........

copernicus · 04-26-2009, 03:47 PM

[QUOTE=BIGKIDD325;3104284]Ray Lucason on SNY didn't like the move. That's really it. He said Sanchez could be very good, but he didn't think it was the right move for other reasons.

I said this somewhere last night, everyone likes this. It was a great move.[/QUOTE]

Nice call BIGKIDD. I remember Lucas not liking the move now too...........

MainManMickens24 · 04-26-2009, 03:48 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;3104322]I can only speak for me....

Because right now, Sanchez is not a "Franchise QB".

He's a very expensive Draft Pick, who hasn't thrown a pass yet. He's short. His Arm Strength is a potential issue (or so I hear).

And getting him cost us picks and players, on a team that wasn't very deep at all.[/QUOTE]

We may not be the best team next year, but Rome wasn't build in a day. Rex Ryan is a first year coach who had absolutely nothing invested in Kellen Clemens. He went out in his first draft, and got his quarterback.

Savage69 · 04-26-2009, 03:49 PM

[QUOTE=BIGKIDD325;3104284]Ray Lucason on SNY didn't like the move. That's really it. He said Sanchez could be very good, but he didn't think it was the right move for other reasons.

I said this somewhere last night, everyone likes this. It was a great move.[/QUOTE]

I'm surprised Ray stayed on last night he said he'd walk off if the Jets went QB..He probably feels bad for KC being a former QB...:yes:

jets rooter · 04-26-2009, 03:50 PM

[QUOTE=Beerfish;3104231]That is a valid point but to be honest, most experts don't know the total make up of the team like a lot of fans on here do.

They don't know clemens, they don't know how many real holes we have on the team, they know things player by player but they do not know the team.

I'm enouraged that so many experts think so highly of the guy, a respected guy in Jaws thought clemens was the real deal.[/QUOTE]

maybe jaws will be proven right.clemens played his first two years behind a horrendous offensive line.just ask thomas jones.he can tell you the difference.

copernicus · 04-26-2009, 04:24 PM

I saw the Sanchez interview on ESPN just now (6th round picks), he really just seems like a great guy. Very easy to root for. Loved how he started off by saying he will get involved in charities of New York City. He really wants to embrace NY. It reminds me of the same attitude Jeter had/has towards becoming a part of this city. Also loved the response to his role as a Latino in a highly populated Spanish city. Said (more or less) if his last name, background, and skin color can inspire a young kid, Spanish or not, to get his degree and play sports than it is all worth it. What a great answer. He seems ready to get in and work hard for the starting job. He has a confidence about him that's really positive, he isn't cocky, big difference, he is a confident young man. Very impressive.................

04-26-2009, 03:03 PM	#1
copernicus All Pro Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,130	Other than some of the posters on JI...... Other than some of the posters on JI has anyone found a commentator, expert or analyst that has something negative to say about Mark Sanchez? Someone on the NFL Network or ESPN that thinks he will not succeed? It seems that universally everyone believes this kid will succeed. In comparison, Matt Stafford has many doubters and some even believe that Sanchez is better. I cant say that I can look at Sanchez physically and say "this kid will succeed" but it is reassuring to hear ALL of the experts on the same page about him...........

04-26-2009, 03:09 PM	#2
tavarua6285 go get BMarsh Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 1,217	NOPE...not a single one. But then again, the well educated, well versed football personnel experts on here are the only opinions that matter, right? ;)

04-26-2009, 03:13 PM	#3
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,116	That is a valid point but to be honest, most experts don't know the total make up of the team like a lot of fans on here do. They don't know clemens, they don't know how many real holes we have on the team, they know things player by player but they do not know the team. I'm enouraged that so many experts think so highly of the guy, a respected guy in Jaws thought clemens was the real deal.

04-26-2009, 03:19 PM	#4
simijet All League Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 4,184	[QUOTE=Beerfish;3104231]That is a valid point but to be honest, most experts don't know the total make up of the team like a lot of fans on here do. They don't know clemens, they don't know how many real holes we have on the team, they know things player by player but they do not know the team. I'm enouraged that so many experts think so highly of the guy, a respected guy in Jaws thought clemens was the real deal.[/QUOTE] So true. While these guys are better equipped to make an impartial analysis, they don't know the team like we do. For that matter, Rex doesn't really know yet either.

04-26-2009, 03:21 PM	#5
copernicus All Pro Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,130	[QUOTE=Beerfish;3104231]That is a valid point but to be honest, most experts don't know the total make up of the team like a lot of fans on here do. They don't know clemens, they don't know how many real holes we have on the team, they know things player by player but they do not know the team. I'm enouraged that so many experts think so highly of the guy, a respected guy in Jaws thought clemens was the real deal.[/QUOTE] Agreed Beerfish. I argue with many of the fans in my circle that Jaws thinks highly of Clemens and how that means "something." The difference is that some "experts" thought Clemens was "not great" while I cant find any that criticize Sanchez at all. Even Stafford was not universally loved. It is encouraging is all that I'm thinking...............

04-26-2009, 03:28 PM	#6
fullblast All League Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,576	The only real knock I have heard on him is based around his lack of experience. None of the "experts" are questioning his game as far as physical ability, mechanics, football smarts, etc. Over the past weekend, they have thrown more of those questions towards Stafford and Freeman but they are absolutely glowing about Sanchez. Maybe it's just the hype, but I like what i'm hearing so far.

04-26-2009, 03:28 PM	#7
LesterLyles All Pro Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 5,092	Im not sure why anyone w/ a brain would dislike what the Jets did. The Jets got very lucky they made a trade w/ a former coach that coveted our JAGS. And not to say this wasnt a good move for Clevealand. I would love to get a couple of Ryab's JAGs; it helps in building things. This was a pefect marriage for a QB that has everything you would want.

04-26-2009, 03:30 PM	#8
SigmaXJet Veteran Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 293	[QUOTE=copernicus;3104197]Other than some of the posters on JI has anyone found a commentator, expert or analyst that has something negative to say about Mark Sanchez? Someone on the NFL Network or ESPN that thinks he will not succeed? [/QUOTE] typical Jet fan statement. why can't you just enjoy that we have a franchise QB for years to come?

04-26-2009, 03:30 PM	#9
BIGKIDD325 #helloplayoffs All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,618	Ray Lucason on SNY didn't like the move. That's really it. He said Sanchez could be very good, but he didn't think it was the right move for other reasons. I said this somewhere last night, everyone likes this. It was a great move.

04-26-2009, 03:45 PM	#10
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	[QUOTE=SigmaXJet;3104283]typical Jet fan statement. why can't you just enjoy that we have a franchise QB for years to come?[/QUOTE] I can only speak for me.... Because right now, Sanchez is not a "Franchise QB". He's a very expensive Draft Pick, who hasn't thrown a pass yet. He's short. His Arm Strength is a potential issue (or so I hear). And getting him cost us picks and players, on a team that wasn't very deep at all.

04-26-2009, 03:47 PM	#12
copernicus All Pro Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,130	[QUOTE=BIGKIDD325;3104284]Ray Lucason on SNY didn't like the move. That's really it. He said Sanchez could be very good, but he didn't think it was the right move for other reasons. I said this somewhere last night, everyone likes this. It was a great move.[/QUOTE] Nice call BIGKIDD. I remember Lucas not liking the move now too...........

04-26-2009, 03:48 PM	#13
MainManMickens24 All Pro Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,339	[QUOTE=Warfish;3104322]I can only speak for me.... Because right now, Sanchez is not a "Franchise QB". He's a very expensive Draft Pick, who hasn't thrown a pass yet. He's short. His Arm Strength is a potential issue (or so I hear). And getting him cost us picks and players, on a team that wasn't very deep at all.[/QUOTE] We may not be the best team next year, but Rome wasn't build in a day. Rex Ryan is a first year coach who had absolutely nothing invested in Kellen Clemens. He went out in his first draft, and got his quarterback.

04-26-2009, 03:49 PM	#14
Savage69 Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 39,387	[QUOTE=BIGKIDD325;3104284]Ray Lucason on SNY didn't like the move. That's really it. He said Sanchez could be very good, but he didn't think it was the right move for other reasons. I said this somewhere last night, everyone likes this. It was a great move.[/QUOTE] I'm surprised Ray stayed on last night he said he'd walk off if the Jets went QB..He probably feels bad for KC being a former QB...:yes:

04-26-2009, 03:50 PM	#15
jets rooter Veteran Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,393	[QUOTE=Beerfish;3104231]That is a valid point but to be honest, most experts don't know the total make up of the team like a lot of fans on here do. They don't know clemens, they don't know how many real holes we have on the team, they know things player by player but they do not know the team. I'm enouraged that so many experts think so highly of the guy, a respected guy in Jaws thought clemens was the real deal.[/QUOTE] maybe jaws will be proven right.clemens played his first two years behind a horrendous offensive line.just ask thomas jones.he can tell you the difference.

04-26-2009, 04:24 PM	#16
copernicus All Pro Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,130	I saw the Sanchez interview on ESPN just now (6th round picks), he really just seems like a great guy. Very easy to root for. Loved how he started off by saying he will get involved in charities of New York City. He really wants to embrace NY. It reminds me of the same attitude Jeter had/has towards becoming a part of this city. Also loved the response to his role as a Latino in a highly populated Spanish city. Said (more or less) if his last name, background, and skin color can inspire a young kid, Spanish or not, to get his degree and play sports than it is all worth it. What a great answer. He seems ready to get in and work hard for the starting job. He has a confidence about him that's really positive, he isn't cocky, big difference, he is a confident young man. Very impressive.................