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BrickHouse · 04-26-2009, 09:17 PM

[QUOTE=genom;3105142]Yea, except for one small detail. Barber ran a 4.49 while our guy ran a 4.65. There's no way this guy can succeed in the NFL with that type of speed.[/QUOTE]

Umm, Bettis ran a 4.66 in the combine. I think he did pretty ok -

Jet Fumes · 04-26-2009, 09:20 PM

[QUOTE=genom;3105142]Yea, except for one small detail. Barber ran a 4.49 while our guy ran a 4.65. There's no way this guy can succeed in the NFL with that type of speed.[/QUOTE]

Disagreed... we dont need him to out run as most rb's can not out run everyone. We need him to run THROUGH. To break the first tackle, and to be able to stiff arm the safety or corner coming up from the secondary to stop him once he gets past the line of scrimmage.

I dont recall Curtis Martin out running alot of people. He was good for the open field move, but in the open he could be caught from behind. Same with Emmit Smith. Hell same with Thomas Jones!

As long as Greene is difficult to tackle and can not be handled one on one, his speed or lack there of will not be a hinderance.

DefenseWinsChampionships2 · 04-26-2009, 09:26 PM

[QUOTE=Jet Fumes;3105272]Disagreed... we dont need him to out run as most rb's can not out run everyone. We need him to run THROUGH. To break the first tackle, and to be able to stiff arm the safety or corner coming up from the secondary to stop him once he gets past the line of scrimmage.

I dont recall Curtis Martin out running alot of people. He was good for the open field move, but in the open he could be caught from behind. Same with Emmit Smith. Hell same with Thomas Jones!

As long as Greene is difficult to tackle and can not be handled one on one, his speed or lack there of will not be a hinderance.[/QUOTE]

Exactly bro, exactly so +1 with that post right cheah!

I remember...I would always call C-Mart, Curtis "Caught from behind" Martin.

We already have a well rounded back in Thomas Jones, we have a true speed back thats explosive in the open field in Leon Washington and this is why it's awsome that we now have a power back in Greene.

This man rushed for almost 2,000 yards last year (His 1st year as a starter)

He rushed for 100+ yards in like 11 games in a row

And he also earned the award for best college back in the nation

And we drafted this guy in the 3rd round? No WONDER why we traded up for this man. He's a power back that can move the pile and thats something the Jets attack has been missing for years now.

Jet Fumes · 04-26-2009, 09:26 PM

[QUOTE=BrickHouse;3105265]Umm, Bettis ran a 4.66 in the combine. I think he did pretty ok -[/QUOTE]

Didnt even think of the Bus....

Exactly right though... you could catch him, but... who in the hell was gonna tackle him?

Brandon Jacobs same thing... I wouldnt wanna tackle him.

5'10 and 230lbs? I am 6'2... played some football in my day... let me tell you... tackling the short stocky kid was infinitely difficult. No matter how "low" I was told to go to tackle the short stocky guy, it was never low enough. I could always catch him but dammit if the ooompa loompa bastid wasnt always hard to tackle.

rlucas4137 · 04-26-2009, 09:51 PM

I can't wait to see this guy square his shoulders and drive through Mayo, Poluzny and Crowder.

Forget Earth, Wind and Fire

The new combo is "Fort" Greene and Washington "Heights".

4/26/09: I'm trademarking that nickname for anyone that steals it. Not so fast Cimini .

Sourceworx · 04-26-2009, 10:00 PM

I wasn't crazy about the move for Sanchez, but I love, love, [B]LOVE[/B] the Shonn Greene pick. He's the type of RB that I've wanted the Jets to get for years.

RIJetFan · 04-26-2009, 10:49 PM

[QUOTE=genom;3105142]Yea, except for one small detail. Barber ran a 4.49 while our guy ran a 4.65. There's no way this guy can succeed in the NFL with that type of speed.[/QUOTE]

Do you honestly think that every successful running back has 4.4 speed, particularly those at 230+? What do you think TJ would run at right now, by the way?

genom · 04-27-2009, 02:15 AM

[QUOTE=RIJetFan;3105505]Do you honestly think that every successful running back has 4.4 speed, particularly those at 230+? What do you think TJ would run at right now, by the way?[/QUOTE]

4.55

I'll grant you guys Bettis. Who else? I'm not being facetious, just curious.

GreenReaper · 04-27-2009, 02:55 AM

Some players...when they put on the pads and strap on the helmets...play faster then whatever they time in those Dog and Pony Combine-Pro Day Events. Greene is one of them. You see him using his good balance and vision, spinning and bouncing off of defenders, treading laterally, then accelerate thru a hole he finds, and you see him turn on another gear, like a hungry runner that hears the TD chow bell ring. IMO...Shonn Greene is what you see him doing...being a big bruising RB that can both move the chains, and rip off big gains.

I really like this pick.

Chupa · 04-27-2009, 03:00 AM

I just made a thread detailing Greene vs Moreno at the combine.

MORENO RAN A 4.62!!!!

hatnlvr · 04-27-2009, 05:16 AM

[QUOTE=nyjets1969;3105067]I hope after trading up for this guy means that the Jets will package fat mouth Jones for a WR.[/QUOTE]

I would love to see that but I just don't think it's going to happen. With Arizona or Cleveland (maybe Mangini wants Jones back??) maybe we can work something out, but at this point I just don't see it happening.

LockeJET · 04-27-2009, 06:58 AM

[QUOTE=DefenseWinsChampionships2;3105184]
He rushed for over 100+ yards like 11 games in a row
[/QUOTE]

13, but hey who's counting.:D

04-27-2009, 02:15 AM	#28
genom All Pro Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 1,616	[QUOTE=RIJetFan;3105505]Do you honestly think that every successful running back has 4.4 speed, particularly those at 230+? What do you think TJ would run at right now, by the way?[/QUOTE] 4.55 I'll grant you guys Bettis. Who else? I'm not being facetious, just curious. Last edited by genom; 04-27-2009 at 02:18 AM.

04-26-2009, 09:17 PM	#21
BrickHouse 3 Home teams and the F@ Jets Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 1,956	[QUOTE=genom;3105142]Yea, except for one small detail. Barber ran a 4.49 while our guy ran a 4.65. There's no way this guy can succeed in the NFL with that type of speed.[/QUOTE] Umm, Bettis ran a 4.66 in the combine. I think he did pretty ok -

04-26-2009, 09:20 PM	#22
Jet Fumes relaxin All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,743	[QUOTE=genom;3105142]Yea, except for one small detail. Barber ran a 4.49 while our guy ran a 4.65. There's no way this guy can succeed in the NFL with that type of speed.[/QUOTE] Disagreed... we dont need him to out run as most rb's can not out run everyone. We need him to run THROUGH. To break the first tackle, and to be able to stiff arm the safety or corner coming up from the secondary to stop him once he gets past the line of scrimmage. I dont recall Curtis Martin out running alot of people. He was good for the open field move, but in the open he could be caught from behind. Same with Emmit Smith. Hell same with Thomas Jones! As long as Greene is difficult to tackle and can not be handled one on one, his speed or lack there of will not be a hinderance.

04-26-2009, 09:26 PM	#23
DefenseWinsChampionships2 ready for some football Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: St.Pete, FL Posts: 6,106	[QUOTE=Jet Fumes;3105272]Disagreed... we dont need him to out run as most rb's can not out run everyone. We need him to run THROUGH. To break the first tackle, and to be able to stiff arm the safety or corner coming up from the secondary to stop him once he gets past the line of scrimmage. I dont recall Curtis Martin out running alot of people. He was good for the open field move, but in the open he could be caught from behind. Same with Emmit Smith. Hell same with Thomas Jones! As long as Greene is difficult to tackle and can not be handled one on one, his speed or lack there of will not be a hinderance.[/QUOTE] Exactly bro, exactly so +1 with that post right cheah! I remember...I would always call C-Mart, Curtis "Caught from behind" Martin. We already have a well rounded back in Thomas Jones, we have a true speed back thats explosive in the open field in Leon Washington and this is why it's awsome that we now have a power back in Greene. This man rushed for almost 2,000 yards last year (His 1st year as a starter) He rushed for 100+ yards in like 11 games in a row And he also earned the award for best college back in the nation And we drafted this guy in the 3rd round? No WONDER why we traded up for this man. He's a power back that can move the pile and thats something the Jets attack has been missing for years now.

04-26-2009, 09:51 PM	#25
rlucas4137 Practice Squad Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 457	I can't wait to see this guy square his shoulders and drive through Mayo, Poluzny and Crowder. Forget Earth, Wind and Fire The new combo is "Fort" Greene and Washington "Heights". 4/26/09: I'm trademarking that nickname for anyone that steals it. Not so fast Cimini .

04-26-2009, 10:00 PM	#26
Sourceworx Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 13,431	I wasn't crazy about the move for Sanchez, but I love, love, [B]LOVE[/B] the Shonn Greene pick. He's the type of RB that I've wanted the Jets to get for years.

04-26-2009, 10:49 PM	#27
RIJetFan All Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 5,904	[QUOTE=genom;3105142]Yea, except for one small detail. Barber ran a 4.49 while our guy ran a 4.65. There's no way this guy can succeed in the NFL with that type of speed.[/QUOTE] Do you honestly think that every successful running back has 4.4 speed, particularly those at 230+? What do you think TJ would run at right now, by the way?

04-27-2009, 02:55 AM	#29
GreenReaper ...back from the DEAD...again! All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,553	Some players...when they put on the pads and strap on the helmets...play faster then whatever they time in those Dog and Pony Combine-Pro Day Events. Greene is one of them. You see him using his good balance and vision, spinning and bouncing off of defenders, treading laterally, then accelerate thru a hole he finds, and you see him turn on another gear, like a hungry runner that hears the TD chow bell ring. IMO...Shonn Greene is what you see him doing...being a big bruising RB that can both move the chains, and rip off big gains. I really like this pick.

04-27-2009, 03:00 AM	#30
Chupa All League Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,279	I just made a thread detailing Greene vs Moreno at the combine. MORENO RAN A 4.62!!!!

04-27-2009, 05:16 AM	#31
hatnlvr Jets Fan for Life! All Pro Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,267	[QUOTE=nyjets1969;3105067]I hope after trading up for this guy means that the Jets will package fat mouth Jones for a WR.[/QUOTE] I would love to see that but I just don't think it's going to happen. With Arizona or Cleveland (maybe Mangini wants Jones back??) maybe we can work something out, but at this point I just don't see it happening.

04-27-2009, 06:58 AM	#32
LockeJET pooping, but thinking of you! Hall of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 15,960	[QUOTE=DefenseWinsChampionships2;3105184] He rushed for over 100+ yards like 11 games in a row [/QUOTE] 13, but hey who's counting.:D