Jets 22nd in sacks-what to do?

Timmy® · 12-23-2009, 02:10 PM

The Jets can collapse a pocket but still can't sack the qb. While 22nd may not sound terrible, I bet the defense ranks high in blitzes.

It's better than last year, at least qbs are feeling the pressure. We need one guy to make the defense scary tough.

Untouchable · 12-23-2009, 02:14 PM

Jerry Hughes :yes:

SenorGato · 12-23-2009, 02:15 PM

Jenkins back will help...

[IMG]http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/268319/greg_hardy.jpg[/IMG]

+

Oghobaase

in 2010.

Super Mario · 12-23-2009, 02:15 PM

Agreed, we need that one guy who can singlehandedly derail a drive.

Now that I think about it, that one bonafide pass-rusher helps us in the end of games, where the Jets' defense has let up this season. Bryan Thomas is solid but not spectacular, Pace is inconsistent, and I think Ellis is really solid player, but he does not excel in getting after the QB (not anymore at least). Those are the main guys that will rush the QB, when 8 defenders drop in coverage. That's the next step for this defense, when they can generate pressure with as little as 3 DL, at any moment in the game.

Timmy® · 12-23-2009, 02:17 PM

[QUOTE=SenorGato;3416998]Jenkins back will help...

[/QUOTE]

Yeah and those five games will be exciting:rolleyes:

TheFranchise · 12-23-2009, 02:17 PM

I heard about this monster pass rusher. Someone by the name of Gholst...oh, right. :O

SenorGato · 12-23-2009, 02:18 PM

[QUOTE=Timmy®;3417003]Yeah and those five games will be exciting:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Lol that's f*cked up...but probably true.

Draft a beast, and draft a beast DL.

Timmy® · 12-23-2009, 02:21 PM

[QUOTE=SenorGato;3417007]Lol that's f*cked up...but probably true.

[/QUOTE]

Kris Jenkins = Rick Di Pietro

PatsFanTX · 12-23-2009, 02:24 PM

[QUOTE=Timmy®;3417003]Yeah and those five games will be exciting:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Think he'll play that many?

sect313 · 12-23-2009, 02:25 PM

ghost being a bust really hurts the team on the field and in the cap. imagine he was like Orakpo? once we get a very good pass rusher is when the defense will be come dominant

jets rooter · 12-23-2009, 02:26 PM

[QUOTE=Timmy®;3416992]The Jets can collapse a pocket but still can't sack the qb. While 22nd may not sound terrible, I bet the defense ranks high in blitzes.

It's better than last year, at least qbs are feeling the pressure. We need one guy to make the defense scary tough.[/QUOTE]

draft two defensive ends next year 1-2

PatsFanTX · 12-23-2009, 02:28 PM

[QUOTE=jets rooter;3417016]draft two defensive ends next year 1-2[/QUOTE]

Jets have that many draft picks left?

SenorGato · 12-23-2009, 02:30 PM

[QUOTE=Timmy®;3417010]Kris Jenkins = Rick Di Pietro[/QUOTE]

Or Ben Sheets.

Or whoever fits the profile in soccer.

Or whoever fits that profile in the NBA.

But hey, if timed correctly those 5 games could be the difference in a season!!

Timmy® · 12-23-2009, 02:32 PM

[QUOTE=SenorGato;3417021]Or Ben Sheets.

Or whoever fits the profile in soccer.

Or whoever fits that profile in the NBA.

But hey, if timed correctly those 5 games could be the difference in a season!![/QUOTE]

I would not be opposed to holding him out until Thanksgiving.

I don't even want him looking at the Stadium in pre-season, let alone entering it.

palmetto defender · 12-23-2009, 04:12 PM

And then on other threads, there is talk of really sticking it to Manning with the fabulous pass rush. Hit him til he cries. Knock Manning down. Teach those Colts a lesson. The Jets don't have a pass rush and Ellis getting older. Bart Scott - well, he's an All Pro - better than Butkus.
Can anyone actually be realistic here. Good cover guys if the opponent has only one WR. Look what happened with NE. Indy has 4 guys they can put on the field AT THE SAME TIME. No other team in the league can do that. IF they decide to play them.

southside · 12-23-2009, 04:23 PM

[QUOTE=SenorGato;3416998]Jenkins back will help...

[IMG]http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/268319/greg_hardy.jpg[/IMG]

+

Oghobaase

in 2010.[/QUOTE]

Yeah the last time you tried to spout off at the mouth like you knew something about pass rushers you suggested how great Gholston was and how crappy Long was. You don't have much credibility.

greenwichjetfan · 12-23-2009, 04:33 PM

Fire Pettine and Ryan!!!

Gastineau99 · 12-23-2009, 05:14 PM

I don't think this stat is much of a problem... probably more to do with teams knowing they have to get rid of the ball quick. The fact that we give up the least amount of passing yards is proof enough and hold opposing QBs to 52.7% (NFL best) proves the sack stat is misleading.

1st - total yards
1st - passing yards
1st - points against
1st - comp %
1st - avg. Yds per pass
1st - passing TDs

It would be great to have more sacks and we should be getting more turnovers for sure, but can't deny these team defensive stats. People complain about the run defense, although they are 11th in rushing yards per game, the Jets are 4th in Yards per Rush (3.8).

I am disappointed with the season, but I have waited A LONG TIME for the Jets to have a dominating defense like this. I am excited to see what they do in the draft and free agency to make it even better next year!

gangGREENinsider · 12-23-2009, 05:19 PM

[QUOTE=southside;3417173]Yeah the last time you tried to spout off at the mouth like you knew something about pass rushers you suggested how great Gholston was and how crappy Long was. You don't have much credibility.[/QUOTE]

LOL zing...

I hope someone doesn't remember the prospects I've missed on.

yanks9596 · 12-23-2009, 05:27 PM

How would everyone feel about bringing in Shawne Merriman?

12-23-2009, 02:10 PM	#1
Timmy® JI's own Reverend Jim. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 23,469	Jets 22nd in sacks-what to do? The Jets can collapse a pocket but still can't sack the qb. While 22nd may not sound terrible, I bet the defense ranks high in blitzes. It's better than last year, at least qbs are feeling the pressure. We need one guy to make the defense scary tough.

12-23-2009, 02:14 PM	#2
Untouchable Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22,403	Jerry Hughes :yes:

12-23-2009, 02:15 PM	#3
SenorGato still a little buzzed. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 8,281	Jenkins back will help... [IMG]http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/268319/greg_hardy.jpg[/IMG] + Oghobaase in 2010.

12-23-2009, 02:15 PM	#4
Super Mario Hall Of Fame Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Back Home! Posts: 8,772	Agreed, we need that one guy who can singlehandedly derail a drive. Now that I think about it, that one bonafide pass-rusher helps us in the end of games, where the Jets' defense has let up this season. Bryan Thomas is solid but not spectacular, Pace is inconsistent, and I think Ellis is really solid player, but he does not excel in getting after the QB (not anymore at least). Those are the main guys that will rush the QB, when 8 defenders drop in coverage. That's the next step for this defense, when they can generate pressure with as little as 3 DL, at any moment in the game.

12-23-2009, 02:17 PM	#5
Timmy® JI's own Reverend Jim. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 23,469	[QUOTE=SenorGato;3416998]Jenkins back will help... [/QUOTE] Yeah and those five games will be exciting:rolleyes:

12-23-2009, 02:17 PM	#6
TheFranchise Another Jetless Super Bowl. :( All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bronx, NY Posts: 5,993	I heard about this monster pass rusher. Someone by the name of Gholst...oh, right. :O

12-23-2009, 02:18 PM	#7
SenorGato still a little buzzed. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 8,281	[QUOTE=Timmy®;3417003]Yeah and those five games will be exciting:rolleyes:[/QUOTE] Lol that's f*cked up...but probably true. Draft a beast, and draft a beast DL.

12-23-2009, 02:21 PM	#8
Timmy® JI's own Reverend Jim. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 23,469	[QUOTE=SenorGato;3417007]Lol that's f*cked up...but probably true. [/QUOTE] Kris Jenkins = Rick Di Pietro

12-23-2009, 02:24 PM	#9
PatsFanTX JI Resident Troll Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 52,068	[QUOTE=Timmy®;3417003]Yeah and those five games will be exciting:rolleyes:[/QUOTE] Think he'll play that many?

12-23-2009, 02:25 PM	#10
sect313 Numb All League Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,614	ghost being a bust really hurts the team on the field and in the cap. imagine he was like Orakpo? once we get a very good pass rusher is when the defense will be come dominant

12-23-2009, 02:26 PM	#11
jets rooter Veteran Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,390	[QUOTE=Timmy®;3416992]The Jets can collapse a pocket but still can't sack the qb. While 22nd may not sound terrible, I bet the defense ranks high in blitzes. It's better than last year, at least qbs are feeling the pressure. We need one guy to make the defense scary tough.[/QUOTE] draft two defensive ends next year 1-2

12-23-2009, 02:28 PM	#12
PatsFanTX JI Resident Troll Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 52,068	[QUOTE=jets rooter;3417016]draft two defensive ends next year 1-2[/QUOTE] Jets have that many draft picks left?

12-23-2009, 02:30 PM	#13
SenorGato still a little buzzed. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 8,281	[QUOTE=Timmy®;3417010]Kris Jenkins = Rick Di Pietro[/QUOTE] Or Ben Sheets. Or whoever fits the profile in soccer. Or whoever fits that profile in the NBA. But hey, if timed correctly those 5 games could be the difference in a season!!

12-23-2009, 02:32 PM	#14
Timmy® JI's own Reverend Jim. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 23,469	[QUOTE=SenorGato;3417021]Or Ben Sheets. Or whoever fits the profile in soccer. Or whoever fits that profile in the NBA. But hey, if timed correctly those 5 games could be the difference in a season!![/QUOTE] I would not be opposed to holding him out until Thanksgiving. I don't even want him looking at the Stadium in pre-season, let alone entering it.

12-23-2009, 04:12 PM	#15
palmetto defender All League Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,630	And then on other threads, there is talk of really sticking it to Manning with the fabulous pass rush. Hit him til he cries. Knock Manning down. Teach those Colts a lesson. The Jets don't have a pass rush and Ellis getting older. Bart Scott - well, he's an All Pro - better than Butkus. Can anyone actually be realistic here. Good cover guys if the opponent has only one WR. Look what happened with NE. Indy has 4 guys they can put on the field AT THE SAME TIME. No other team in the league can do that. IF they decide to play them.

12-23-2009, 04:23 PM	#16
southside Forever Awesome All Pro Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,884	[QUOTE=SenorGato;3416998]Jenkins back will help... [IMG]http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/268319/greg_hardy.jpg[/IMG] + Oghobaase in 2010.[/QUOTE] Yeah the last time you tried to spout off at the mouth like you knew something about pass rushers you suggested how great Gholston was and how crappy Long was. You don't have much credibility.

12-23-2009, 04:33 PM	#17
greenwichjetfan All League Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,063	Fire Pettine and Ryan!!!

12-23-2009, 05:14 PM	#18
Gastineau99 Section 135 All Pro Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,344	I don't think this stat is much of a problem... probably more to do with teams knowing they have to get rid of the ball quick. The fact that we give up the least amount of passing yards is proof enough and hold opposing QBs to 52.7% (NFL best) proves the sack stat is misleading. 1st - total yards 1st - passing yards 1st - points against 1st - comp % 1st - avg. Yds per pass 1st - passing TDs It would be great to have more sacks and we should be getting more turnovers for sure, but can't deny these team defensive stats. People complain about the run defense, although they are 11th in rushing yards per game, the Jets are 4th in Yards per Rush (3.8). I am disappointed with the season, but I have waited A LONG TIME for the Jets to have a dominating defense like this. I am excited to see what they do in the draft and free agency to make it even better next year!

12-23-2009, 05:19 PM	#19
gangGREENinsider All Pro Join Date: May 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 8,232	[QUOTE=southside;3417173]Yeah the last time you tried to spout off at the mouth like you knew something about pass rushers you suggested how great Gholston was and how crappy Long was. You don't have much credibility.[/QUOTE] LOL zing... I hope someone doesn't remember the prospects I've missed on.

12-23-2009, 05:27 PM	#20
yanks9596 Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 188	How would everyone feel about bringing in Shawne Merriman?