Envious of Philly Eagles Flexibility

Paul · 04-04-2010, 12:18 AM

I know this is not Jets related but I am envious of the Eagles Flexibility.

IMO Watch out for the Eagles. With the trade they just made with the Browns, they now have ten picks in the 2010 draft. I am envious of the flexibiity they have to move up or down and draft depth.
I know that they are in need of MLB and OLB and OL.

If they also pull the trade of McNabb with Oakland and receive the Raiders #1 great CB they will be tough.

I think they can move up in the draft and get Earl Thomas and then their
2ndary would be tough if the above trade happens ?

Just bored and ready for the draft already.

Beerfish · 04-04-2010, 02:27 AM

The teams with the most flexibility to make moves early on in the draft will have multiple picks in the 1st three rounds.

Arizona, Cincy, KC, NE, Philly, SF, Tampa all have 4 picks in the 1st three rounds.

Cleveland has 5 picks in the 1st 3 rounds

Your point about Philly is good though in that they have extra ammo in the later rounds to add here and there.

Ledge Hater #1 · 04-04-2010, 02:35 AM

Great! Now go out and beat the living Hell of the Giants!!!

sg3 · 04-04-2010, 02:43 AM

flexibility is only worth something if you can turn those picks into something useful.

For example, in 2006 the Pattycakes had 12 picks and turned them into Lawrence Maroney, Chad Jackson and 10 other camp cuts.

Every year since they have had more than their 7 normal picks due to comp picks and future deals and have had similar results coming up with marginal Meriwether and nothing else in 2007, Mayo the one year wonder and nothing else in 2008 and Vollmer and question marks in 2009.

If you whiff at the draft every year, having extra picks doesn't by definition give you more flexiblility, just more whiffability

SAR I · 04-04-2010, 05:22 AM

Dump.

We're a Supe fave and some draft freak is upset that we're going to have a boring draft? (Yawn) can't wait. I live for the seasons that the Jets aren't the stars of the draft. Means the team is solid.

SAR I

Apache 51 · 04-04-2010, 09:50 AM

Birds have been this way for ten years, Reid, and the FO, are masters at what they do, problem is, they can't accomplish the only thing that matters.

Ray Ray19 · 04-04-2010, 10:10 AM

So fans are envious of the Eagles in a year where the Eagles are either releasing, trading, or letting go of players like McNabb, Westbrook, Gocong, Sheldon Brown, and Shawn Andrews, but Jet fans need to be paranoid about the Jets letting Jay Feely and Thomas Jones go?

Savage69 · 04-04-2010, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sg3

If you whiff at the draft every year, having extra picks doesn't by definition give you more flexiblility, just more whiffability

Many Jet fans cried about the lack of picks in 07 and last year but what we picked have produced Sanchez,Shonn Greene,Matt Slauson,Revis,Harris,Bender and Stuckey who was used in a trade.. Sometimes less gives you more..

124 · 04-04-2010, 10:51 AM

I can't be jealous of an organization who is actually considering trading the best QB in franchise history, and one who is still a Top 10, sometimes Top 5, QB in the game in favor for another QB from the University of Houston.

They're basically telling their fans that they're ready to rebuild.

But thats me.

WeskerLogan · 04-04-2010, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAR I

Dump.

We're a Supe fave and some draft freak is upset that we're going to have a boring draft? (Yawn) can't wait. I live for the seasons that the Jets aren't the stars of the draft. Means the team is solid.

SAR I

+1

Beerfish · 04-04-2010, 11:23 AM

Wow some retarded comments here. The guy said he was envious because they had so many picks and had lots of flexibility which includes TRADE UPS. I didn't see him saying that it's far better to have 12 picks than 3.

The Jets have a 2nd rounder and no 3rd rounder. We have committed our 2nd or 3rd rounder next year. We don't have a ton of ammo to trade up this year.

Teams with multiple picks in the top 3 rounds have the flexibility to trade up. He suggested they TRADE UP for Earl Thomas.

TheMikeIsHot · 04-04-2010, 11:47 AM

I'm not worried about what the Jets do. They may not have the ammo we all wish they had to move up, but they are pretty good at moving around with what they have.

I'm very confident that they will come away from this draft with 2 or even 3 guys they really wanted. That's all I can ask for.

And I couldn't care less about what the Eagles do. The Pats and their 3 #2's are something to worry about.

RageATL · 04-04-2010, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMikeIsHot

I'm not worried about what the Jets do. They may not have the ammo we all wish they had to move up, but they are pretty good at moving around with what they have.

I'm very confident that they will come away from this draft with 2 or even 3 guys they really wanted. That's all I can ask for.

And I couldn't care less about what the Eagles do. The Pats and their 3 #2's are something to worry about.

True, but I'm really starting to get concerned about the depth on our O-line...Faneca is truly a liability and Woody is getting older as well (currently 32). The good news is that the line has been healthy over the past few years (knock on wood), but I feel we can't keep on tempting the hand of fate.

Jet Nut · 04-05-2010, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

So fans are envious of the Eagles in a year where the Eagles are either releasing, trading, or letting go of players like McNabb, Westbrook, Gocong, Sheldon Brown, and Shawn Andrews, but Jet fans need to be paranoid about the Jets letting Jay Feely and Thomas Jones go?

Or that the reason the Eagles are desperately trying to bring in new players because they are falling downward.

Yeah, envious of that situation.

bitonti · 04-05-2010, 11:03 PM

the Jets are a contender

the Eagles are rebuilding

don't be envious of their "flexibility" cause they need to use all their picks

SenorGato · 04-05-2010, 11:17 PM

You guys are treating rebuilding in the NFL as something major. Compared to other sports rebuilding an NFL team is cake...they already have like 98% of their offense in place too. Philly will be back for 2012, and they'll be annoying for the NFC East in 2010.

FijiJet · 04-05-2010, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sg3

flexibility is only worth something if you can turn those picks into something useful.

For example, in 2006 the Pattycakes had 12 picks and turned them into Lawrence Maroney, Chad Jackson and 10 other camp cuts.

Every year since they have had more than their 7 normal picks due to comp picks and future deals and have had similar results coming up with marginal Meriwether and nothing else in 2007, Mayo the one year wonder and nothing else in 2008 and Vollmer and question marks in 2009.

If you whiff at the draft every year, having extra picks doesn't by definition give you more flexiblility, just more whiffability

Exactly all that ammo and little impact to show for it. I think the Jets are in a much better position - they draft better, maximising the value of their picks. Results speak for themselves.

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04-04-2010, 12:18 AM	#1
Paul Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 118	Envious of Philly Eagles Flexibility I know this is not Jets related but I am envious of the Eagles Flexibility. IMO Watch out for the Eagles. With the trade they just made with the Browns, they now have ten picks in the 2010 draft. I am envious of the flexibiity they have to move up or down and draft depth. I know that they are in need of MLB and OLB and OL. If they also pull the trade of McNabb with Oakland and receive the Raiders #1 great CB they will be tough. I think they can move up in the draft and get Earl Thomas and then their 2ndary would be tough if the above trade happens ? Just bored and ready for the draft already.

04-04-2010, 02:27 AM	#2
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 12,389	The teams with the most flexibility to make moves early on in the draft will have multiple picks in the 1st three rounds. Arizona, Cincy, KC, NE, Philly, SF, Tampa all have 4 picks in the 1st three rounds. Cleveland has 5 picks in the 1st 3 rounds Your point about Philly is good though in that they have extra ammo in the later rounds to add here and there.

04-04-2010, 02:35 AM	#3
Ledge Hater #1 Practice Squad Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Most Corrupt State In The USA, New Jersey Posts: 39	Great! Now go out and beat the living Hell of the Giants!!!

04-04-2010, 02:43 AM	#4
sg3 Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 9,268	flexibility is only worth something if you can turn those picks into something useful. For example, in 2006 the Pattycakes had 12 picks and turned them into Lawrence Maroney, Chad Jackson and 10 other camp cuts. Every year since they have had more than their 7 normal picks due to comp picks and future deals and have had similar results coming up with marginal Meriwether and nothing else in 2007, Mayo the one year wonder and nothing else in 2008 and Vollmer and question marks in 2009. If you whiff at the draft every year, having extra picks doesn't by definition give you more flexiblility, just more whiffability

04-04-2010, 05:22 AM	#5
SAR I is now a Captain Morgan Club Seat Holder. Aaarrr! Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 26,871	Dump. We're a Supe fave and some draft freak is upset that we're going to have a boring draft? (Yawn) can't wait. I live for the seasons that the Jets aren't the stars of the draft. Means the team is solid. SAR I

04-04-2010, 09:50 AM	#6
Apache 51 is Saying Let's Kill Them All..... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: At the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 5,773	Birds have been this way for ten years, Reid, and the FO, are masters at what they do, problem is, they can't accomplish the only thing that matters.

04-04-2010, 10:10 AM	#7
Ray Ray19 is Believing, the future is NOW and it is bright. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,416	So fans are envious of the Eagles in a year where the Eagles are either releasing, trading, or letting go of players like McNabb, Westbrook, Gocong, Sheldon Brown, and Shawn Andrews, but Jet fans need to be paranoid about the Jets letting Jay Feely and Thomas Jones go?

04-04-2010, 10:51 AM	#9
124 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Section 104 Posts: 5,052	I can't be jealous of an organization who is actually considering trading the best QB in franchise history, and one who is still a Top 10, sometimes Top 5, QB in the game in favor for another QB from the University of Houston. They're basically telling their fans that they're ready to rebuild. But thats me.

04-04-2010, 11:23 AM	#11
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 12,389	Wow some retarded comments here. The guy said he was envious because they had so many picks and had lots of flexibility which includes TRADE UPS. I didn't see him saying that it's far better to have 12 picks than 3. The Jets have a 2nd rounder and no 3rd rounder. We have committed our 2nd or 3rd rounder next year. We don't have a ton of ammo to trade up this year. Teams with multiple picks in the top 3 rounds have the flexibility to trade up. He suggested they TRADE UP for Earl Thomas.

04-04-2010, 11:47 AM	#12
TheMikeIsHot is ready for some REAL football Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 4,362	I'm not worried about what the Jets do. They may not have the ammo we all wish they had to move up, but they are pretty good at moving around with what they have. I'm very confident that they will come away from this draft with 2 or even 3 guys they really wanted. That's all I can ask for. And I couldn't care less about what the Eagles do. The Pats and their 3 #2's are something to worry about.

04-05-2010, 11:03 PM	#15
bitonti is searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 31,715	the Jets are a contender the Eagles are rebuilding don't be envious of their "flexibility" cause they need to use all their picks

04-05-2010, 11:17 PM	#16
SenorGato is still a little buzzed. Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 8,685	You guys are treating rebuilding in the NFL as something major. Compared to other sports rebuilding an NFL team is cake...they already have like 98% of their offense in place too. Philly will be back for 2012, and they'll be annoying for the NFC East in 2010.

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