Bigger impact, Jason Taylor or Vernon Gholston?

PaPZ187 · 09-10-2010, 04:57 PM

Was thinking about this earlier and wanted to know what the rest of JI thinks...

Who will have a bigger impact and better season for the Jets - Jason Taylor or Vernon Gholston?

I am going with Gholston, I did not like 1 thing I saw from Taylor at all through out the Preseason and Hard Knocks. Gholston has shown some improvement, and while neither will have a HUGE impact IMO, I am going with Gholston.

intothegreen · 09-10-2010, 04:59 PM

[QUOTE=PaPZ187;3726240]Was thinking about this earlier and wanted to know what the rest of JI thinks...

Who will have a bigger impact and better season for the Jets - Jason Taylor or Vernon Gholston?

I am going with Gholston, I did not like 1 thing I saw from Taylor at all through out the Preseason and Hard Knocks. Gholston has shown some improvement, and while neither will have a HUGE impact IMO, I am going with Gholston.

Poll Coming...[/QUOTE]

Jason TAylor, especially with the injury to Pace, is a starter. Vernon is not. Taylor will be more productive by default, IMO.

Gholstons Revenge · 09-10-2010, 05:00 PM

[QUOTE=intothegreen;3726243]Jason TAylor, especially with the injury to Pace, is a starter. Vernon is not. Taylor will be more productive by default, IMO.[/QUOTE]

Taylor is way passed his prime. He can contribute as a situational pass rusher and that's it. Where do you get Taylor is a starter from?

EDIT: Also didn't someone say that Taylor would have been cut if Pace didn't get hurt?

intothegreen · 09-10-2010, 05:07 PM

[QUOTE=Gholstons Revenge;3726244]Taylor is way passed his prime. He can contribute as a situational pass rusher and that's it. Where do you get Taylor is a starter from?

EDIT: Also didn't someone say that Taylor would have been cut if Pace didn't get hurt?[/QUOTE]

Didnt Rex say after the Pace injury that his snaps went from 75% to 100%?

Joe W. Namath · 09-10-2010, 05:08 PM

It depends on how much gholsten plays. but jason taylor is a joke and will suck for us this year.

mrcoops · 09-10-2010, 05:09 PM

Taylor is old, and looks like he doesn't give a damn any more. VG is ready to produce, and will get a lot of PT this year. My money is on VG over the rotting Phish.

Kentucky Jet · 09-10-2010, 05:12 PM

[QUOTE=PaPZ187;3726240]Was thinking about this earlier and wanted to know what the rest of JI thinks...

Who will have a bigger impact and better season for the Jets - Jason Taylor or Vernon Gholston?

I am going with Gholston, I did not like 1 thing I saw from Taylor at all through out the Preseason and Hard Knocks. Gholston has shown some improvement, and while neither will have a HUGE impact IMO, I am going with Gholston.[/QUOTE]

Please don't tell us that you expected REX to show us anything that he will do in the real season. Lets see what happens when the lights go on and it is for real. Never judge crap by preseason exhibitions and HK. They mean nothing. I also expect Sanchez to look totally different then he did in preseason.

revischrist · 09-10-2010, 05:12 PM

have this weird feeling VG gets a sack Monday Night. VG comes from outside, jets throw blitz from inside which forces tackle to pinch in and lets VG come virtually untouched for the sack.

Joe W. Namath · 09-10-2010, 05:14 PM

Im ready to get on the Gholsten bandwagon. He just needs to make some plays in a meaningful game. Lets start monday night vern.

Hitman Harris · 09-10-2010, 05:16 PM

[QUOTE=Gholstons Revenge;3726244]EDIT: [B]Also didn't someone say that Taylor would have been cut if Pace didn't get hurt?[/B][/QUOTE]

Yes.

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GreenReaper · 09-10-2010, 05:20 PM

I said JT only because of his 127.5 sack body of work. He's going to play more as a starter...so I'm hoping he produces accordingly. But it's not with any conviction...cause as others said...he's showed us nothing in preseason. Just the opposite of what LT has done.

KingofNY · 09-10-2010, 05:25 PM

I think VG is going to prove his worth during these first 4 games that Calvin is out. Jason Taylor will be lucky to make it to the games let alone sack the quarterback :P. I'm betting VG will get around 5 sacks this season.

Woody56 · 09-10-2010, 05:31 PM

Gonna go with the guy who looked better in the pre season

Vernon Gholston :eek:

Buzzsaw · 09-10-2010, 05:35 PM

Gholston's still never touched a quarterback in a real game. No sacks, but also not a single knock-down. I don't think he'll ever be a good pass rusher (but he can contribute other ways). Had to vote for Taylor.

boxman · 09-10-2010, 05:36 PM

I think Jason Taylor will have a bigger impact, but Gholston will (finally) take some real steps forward.

Charlie Brown · 09-10-2010, 05:44 PM

Are we Kidding!!!!

You can hate Taylor all you want but Jason Taylor is a first Ballot HOF player!!!!!! You guys are judging him by the preseason....... We wont judge Sanchez by the preseason but we judge JT.... Yea that makes sense...:rolleyes:

And while I like VG and have rooted for him from the begining since his time here with the Jets; VG has yet to prove he can get on the field against regular first NFL players!!!!

Come on... Hate JT if you must, but VG is or will better than him....GOOD GRIEF!!!!:eek:

TurkJetFan · 09-10-2010, 06:03 PM

Comparing LTs preseason to JTs makes no sense....L T has a chip on his shoulder...JT has no reason to hustle in preseason...

This shouldn't even be a discussion...

As of today its JT over VG until VG proves otherwise.

Borgoguy · 09-10-2010, 06:05 PM

Both should be sent to a 70s-era gulag after a good, old fashioned horse whipping.

JetzIL · 09-10-2010, 06:05 PM

I hope it's Gholston. I have seen him hit the QB twice in Preseason (once last year, once this year) and he just unloads on them.

WeskerLogan · 09-10-2010, 06:14 PM

[QUOTE=JetzIL;3726318]I hope it's Gholston. I have seen him hit the QB twice in Preseason (once last year, once this year) and he just unloads on them.[/QUOTE]

+1 he does crush people when he makes contact

View Poll Results: Who will have a bigger impact this year?
Jason Taylor	44	47.31%
Vernon Gholston	49	52.69%
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09-10-2010, 04:57 PM	#1
PaPZ187 NO paper bag over my face...still GREEN and WHITE till I die! All League Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lawrence, MA Posts: 3,063	Bigger impact, Jason Taylor or Vernon Gholston? Was thinking about this earlier and wanted to know what the rest of JI thinks... Who will have a bigger impact and better season for the Jets - Jason Taylor or Vernon Gholston? I am going with Gholston, I did not like 1 thing I saw from Taylor at all through out the Preseason and Hard Knocks. Gholston has shown some improvement, and while neither will have a HUGE impact IMO, I am going with Gholston.

09-10-2010, 04:59 PM	#2
intothegreen All League Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 743	[QUOTE=PaPZ187;3726240]Was thinking about this earlier and wanted to know what the rest of JI thinks... Who will have a bigger impact and better season for the Jets - Jason Taylor or Vernon Gholston? I am going with Gholston, I did not like 1 thing I saw from Taylor at all through out the Preseason and Hard Knocks. Gholston has shown some improvement, and while neither will have a HUGE impact IMO, I am going with Gholston. Poll Coming...[/QUOTE] Jason TAylor, especially with the injury to Pace, is a starter. Vernon is not. Taylor will be more productive by default, IMO.

09-10-2010, 05:00 PM	#3
Gholstons Revenge thanking God i'm not a Mets fan All Pro Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,926	[QUOTE=intothegreen;3726243]Jason TAylor, especially with the injury to Pace, is a starter. Vernon is not. Taylor will be more productive by default, IMO.[/QUOTE] Taylor is way passed his prime. He can contribute as a situational pass rusher and that's it. Where do you get Taylor is a starter from? EDIT: Also didn't someone say that Taylor would have been cut if Pace didn't get hurt?

09-10-2010, 05:07 PM	#4
intothegreen All League Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 743	[QUOTE=Gholstons Revenge;3726244]Taylor is way passed his prime. He can contribute as a situational pass rusher and that's it. Where do you get Taylor is a starter from? EDIT: Also didn't someone say that Taylor would have been cut if Pace didn't get hurt?[/QUOTE] Didnt Rex say after the Pace injury that his snaps went from 75% to 100%?

09-10-2010, 05:08 PM	#5
Joe W. Namath Darrell Bevell for HC in 2014. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Boynton Beach, FL Posts: 7,825	It depends on how much gholsten plays. but jason taylor is a joke and will suck for us this year.

09-10-2010, 05:09 PM	#6
mrcoops sleepy All Pro Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 5,491	Taylor is old, and looks like he doesn't give a damn any more. VG is ready to produce, and will get a lot of PT this year. My money is on VG over the rotting Phish.

09-10-2010, 05:12 PM	#7
Kentucky Jet A NY JETS fan! Go Jets! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ormond Beach, Florida Posts: 10,880	[QUOTE=PaPZ187;3726240]Was thinking about this earlier and wanted to know what the rest of JI thinks... Who will have a bigger impact and better season for the Jets - Jason Taylor or Vernon Gholston? I am going with Gholston, I did not like 1 thing I saw from Taylor at all through out the Preseason and Hard Knocks. Gholston has shown some improvement, and while neither will have a HUGE impact IMO, I am going with Gholston.[/QUOTE] Please don't tell us that you expected REX to show us anything that he will do in the real season. Lets see what happens when the lights go on and it is for real. Never judge crap by preseason exhibitions and HK. They mean nothing. I also expect Sanchez to look totally different then he did in preseason.

09-10-2010, 05:12 PM	#8
revischrist Dee Best! Veteran Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,734	have this weird feeling VG gets a sack Monday Night. VG comes from outside, jets throw blitz from inside which forces tackle to pinch in and lets VG come virtually untouched for the sack.

09-10-2010, 05:14 PM	#9
Joe W. Namath Darrell Bevell for HC in 2014. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Boynton Beach, FL Posts: 7,825	Im ready to get on the Gholsten bandwagon. He just needs to make some plays in a meaningful game. Lets start monday night vern.

09-10-2010, 05:16 PM	#10
Hitman Harris Supports Rex Ryan All League Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Right Here Posts: 4,153	[QUOTE=Gholstons Revenge;3726244]EDIT: [B]Also didn't someone say that Taylor would have been cut if Pace didn't get hurt?[/B][/QUOTE] Yes. [IMG]http://www.3click.tv/mp4//The%20Simpsons/season6/metadata/55559.jpg[/IMG]

09-10-2010, 05:20 PM	#11
GreenReaper ...back from the DEAD...again! All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,553	I said JT only because of his 127.5 sack body of work. He's going to play more as a starter...so I'm hoping he produces accordingly. But it's not with any conviction...cause as others said...he's showed us nothing in preseason. Just the opposite of what LT has done.

09-10-2010, 05:25 PM	#12
KingofNY Fire Sparano, Tanny and bench Sanchez. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 2,983	I think VG is going to prove his worth during these first 4 games that Calvin is out. Jason Taylor will be lucky to make it to the games let alone sack the quarterback :P. I'm betting VG will get around 5 sacks this season.

09-10-2010, 05:31 PM	#13
Woody56 Purifying myself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka All League Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island Posts: 3,067	Gonna go with the guy who looked better in the pre season Vernon Gholston :eek:

09-10-2010, 05:35 PM	#14
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26,303	Gholston's still never touched a quarterback in a real game. No sacks, but also not a single knock-down. I don't think he'll ever be a good pass rusher (but he can contribute other ways). Had to vote for Taylor.

09-10-2010, 05:36 PM	#15
boxman GENO! Rookie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 856	I think Jason Taylor will have a bigger impact, but Gholston will (finally) take some real steps forward.

09-10-2010, 05:44 PM	#16
Charlie Brown Please Pray for the Safety of Everyone!!! Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 1999 Location: New York City Posts: 5,522	Are we Kidding!!!! You can hate Taylor all you want but Jason Taylor is a first Ballot HOF player!!!!!! You guys are judging him by the preseason....... We wont judge Sanchez by the preseason but we judge JT.... Yea that makes sense...:rolleyes: And while I like VG and have rooted for him from the begining since his time here with the Jets; VG has yet to prove he can get on the field against regular first NFL players!!!! Come on... Hate JT if you must, but VG is or will better than him....GOOD GRIEF!!!!:eek:

09-10-2010, 06:03 PM	#17
TurkJetFan Praise Idzik All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,097	Comparing LTs preseason to JTs makes no sense....L T has a chip on his shoulder...JT has no reason to hustle in preseason... This shouldn't even be a discussion... As of today its JT over VG until VG proves otherwise.

09-10-2010, 06:05 PM	#18
Borgoguy Not one image until my posts are restored. Veteran Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,391	Both should be sent to a 70s-era gulag after a good, old fashioned horse whipping.

09-10-2010, 06:05 PM	#19
JetzIL All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 613	I hope it's Gholston. I have seen him hit the QB twice in Preseason (once last year, once this year) and he just unloads on them.

09-10-2010, 06:14 PM	#20
WeskerLogan I think, therefore you're out Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cedar Grove, New Jersey Posts: 6,762	[QUOTE=JetzIL;3726318]I hope it's Gholston. I have seen him hit the QB twice in Preseason (once last year, once this year) and he just unloads on them.[/QUOTE] +1 he does crush people when he makes contact