Cablevision and Fox agree

Come Back to NY · 10-30-2010, 08:12 PM

just got an email...those not attending the game tomorrow can relax...

MadCroatian · 10-30-2010, 08:21 PM

who caved? nm. just read it. Cablevision caved. Good for Fox's pocketbooks. Bad for Cablevision. Which is essentially, bad for us, cuz the additional fee is gonna mean increased bills we gotta pay : (

Come Back to NY · 10-30-2010, 08:32 PM

[QUOTE=MadCroatian;3797317]who caved?[/QUOTE]

looks like cablevision...

[QUOTE][B]Fox, Cablevision Reach Agreement, End Blackout [/B]

By GEORGE STAHL
NEW YORK -- Cablevision Systems Corp. and Fox Networks reached an agreement ending a two-week stalemate marked by heated rhetoric, legal actions and missed sporting events.

The animosity continued even after an agreement was reached as Cablevison complained about agreeing to pay Fox "an unfair price" and about "the absence of any meaningful action" from the Federal Communications Commission.

Terms of the deal were not disclosed. Fox is owned by News Corp., which also owns Dow Jones & Co., publisher of this newswire and The Wall Street Journal.

"Cablevision has agreed to pay Fox an unfair price for multiple channels of its programming including many in which our customers have little or no interest," the cable operator said in an emailed statement. "Cablevision conceded because it does not think its customers should any longer be denied the Fox programs they wish to see."

The agreement covers Fox 5 and My9 in New York, Fox 29 in Philadelphia and the cable channels Fox Deportes, Fox Business Network, and Nat Geo Wild.

The signals for all stations and cable channels were restored Saturday before the first pitch of World Series Game 3 on Fox. Cablevision's 3 million mostly New York area households already had missed the first two games of the series, the National League Championship Series and a New York Giants football game.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703414504575584900713403986.html[/url]

Come Back to NY · 10-30-2010, 08:33 PM

[QUOTE=MadCroatian;3797317]who caved? nm. just read it. Cablevision caved. Good for Fox's pocketbooks. Bad for Cablevision. Which is essentially, bad for us, cuz the additional fee is gonna mean increased bills we gotta pay : ([/QUOTE]

i'm sure the commercials run by FIOS the past week helped force the issue for cablevision...

32green · 10-30-2010, 08:33 PM

[QUOTE=MadCroatian;3797317]who caved?[/QUOTE]

Sounds like Cablevision, they are complaining about the unfair deal already.

Honestly, I hate the Dolans and cablevision but I could not find one ounce of evidence that Fox wasnt the villians here.

The wording of their anti CV ads....all very disingenuous and double talk.

Insulting our intelligence I thought.

Still, happy to be watching the WS tonight.:yes:

MCBNY · 10-30-2010, 08:33 PM

Fox is horrible. Fck them.

rep · 10-30-2010, 08:46 PM

Good news. Anything that lowers James Dolan's bank account is a win in my books.

HitSomeone41 · 10-30-2010, 08:50 PM

So this means i dont have to find a bar....Wooooooooo!!

I dreaded having to watch this game with non-Jets fans.

Gotta set up my DVR......Woooooooooo!!!

MCBNY · 10-30-2010, 08:53 PM

If this team were really the Same Old Jets, a deal would not have been struck.

32green · 10-30-2010, 09:04 PM

[QUOTE=rep;3797326]Good news. Anything that lowers James Dolan's bank account is a win in my books.[/QUOTE]

At first glance, I would agree, but I'm pretty sure that they wont lose one thin dime. I will lose a lot of dimes.

And they will smugly blame Fox.

Heck, if it came out that Fox and Cable were in cahoots on this, I wouldnt be surprised.

:rolleyes:

Come Back to NY · 10-30-2010, 09:51 PM

[QUOTE=32green;3797334]At first glance, I would agree, but I'm pretty sure that they wont lose one thin dime. I will lose a lot of dimes.

And they will smugly blame Fox.

Heck, if it came out that Fox and Cable were in cahoots on this, I wouldnt be surprised.

:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

i don't know about that- with all the choices out there, (dish, fios, cable) call up and play hard ball with them...that's what i did w/directtv...

or in your case at least threaten to hit them with your purse...:D

Jetfan61 · 10-30-2010, 10:41 PM

[QUOTE=rep;3797326]Good news. Anything that lowers James Dolan's bank account is a win in my books.[/QUOTE]

I hate Dolan myself but we the subscribers will ultimatly pay.....

32green · 10-30-2010, 10:41 PM

[QUOTE=Come Back to NY;3797342]i don't know about that- with all the choices out there, (dish, fios, cable) call up and play hard ball with them...that's what i did w/directtv...

or in your case at least threaten to hit them with your purse...:D[/QUOTE]

Dick.

I actually did the switch to Dish back when Cable refused to carry the Yes Network.

Had to be 7-8 years ago, no?

Then, after the fifth time I lost signal when it was cloudy...and Cable picked up Yes... I switched back.

Switching sucked.

Just a pain in the arse.

And I havent been convinced FIOS is an upgrade.

ikazippy · 10-30-2010, 10:45 PM

Fox is the villain here but Cablevision feigning concern for their customers made me physically ill. Cablevision does the same thing to other companies when they are the content provider. They are so insecure that they don't even offer MSG Network to Dish Network nor do they offer any of the NY Sports programming they own in HD to Fios. Whether they thought $150 million was too much for Fox programming was irrelevant. Fox could have asked for $500 million and Cablevision wouldn't have cared because whatever the cost for the Fox programming they would have passed that buck onto its subscribers. What I do see that is troubling is it seems every year we go through another programming dispute of one kind or another. I'm not a big government intervention guy but I think in the case of broadcast rights and fees at the expense of losing valuable programming the FCC should be more proactive in avoiding these disputes.

32green · 10-30-2010, 10:51 PM

[QUOTE=ikazippy;3797367]Fox is the villain here but Cablevision feigning concern for their customers made me physically ill. Cablevision does the same thing to other companies when they are the content provider. They are so insecure that they don't even offer MSG Network to Dish Network nor do they offer any of the NY Sports programming they own in HD to Fios. Whether they thought $150 million was too much for Fox programming was irrelevant. Fox could have asked for $500 million and Cablevision wouldn't have cared because whatever the cost for the Fox programming they would have passed that buck onto its subscribers. What I do see that is troubling is it seems every year we go through another programming dispute of one kind or another. I'm not a big government intervention guy but I think in the case of broadcast rights and fees at the expense of losing valuable programming the FCC should be more proactive in avoiding these disputes.[/QUOTE]

Or, how about a defined reimbursement for services paid for and not provided?

Cable offered me 10 bucks to watch the WS through MLB...but what about the rest of the programming my wife missed? We paid for that. We paid for every second of programming on 9 and 5 for the length of this dispute.

So agreed, bring on the Feds. No one else is looking out for us.

peterj55 · 10-30-2010, 10:52 PM

[QUOTE=MadCroatian;3797317]who caved? nm. just read it. Cablevision caved. Good for Fox's pocketbooks. Bad for Cablevision. Which is essentially, bad for us, cuz the additional fee is gonna mean increased bills we gotta pay : ([/QUOTE]

GET DIRECTV CABLE IS A RIPPOFF ..:cool:

Austin · 10-30-2010, 10:57 PM

I want to switch to sattelite, but am terrified of getting crappy reception.

I'm tempted by Fios... NFL Network and Redzone channel? Yes please.

Come Back to NY · 10-30-2010, 11:21 PM

[QUOTE=32green;3797364]Dick.

I actually did the switch to Dish back when Cable refused to carry the Yes Network.

Had to be 7-8 years ago, no?

Then, after the fifth time I lost signal when it was cloudy...and Cable picked up Yes... I switched back.

Switching sucked.

Just a pain in the arse.

And I havent been convinced FIOS is an upgrade.[/QUOTE]

you lost the signal when it was cloudy??? wtf???

go buy the real equipment rather than pay miguel $5 a day to hold a tin foil dish out in the road for you- that should solve the issue...

32green · 10-30-2010, 11:46 PM

[QUOTE=Come Back to NY;3797383]you lost the signal when it was cloudy??? wtf???

go buy the real equipment rather than pay miguel $5 a day to hold a tin foil dish out in the road for you- that should solve the issue...[/QUOTE]

I had it professionally installed by a mulleted white dude who hammered the dish into my roof. He had a uniform and a compass.

-

skipper · 10-30-2010, 11:59 PM

[QUOTE=rep;3797326]Good news. Anything that lowers James Dolan's bank account is a win in my books.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but it raises Murdoch's , and that's a loss.

10-30-2010, 08:12 PM	#1
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	Cablevision and Fox agree just got an email...those not attending the game tomorrow can relax...

10-30-2010, 08:21 PM	#2
MadCroatian Dollar goes in... Soda comes out.... ALIENS! Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 601	who caved? nm. just read it. Cablevision caved. Good for Fox's pocketbooks. Bad for Cablevision. Which is essentially, bad for us, cuz the additional fee is gonna mean increased bills we gotta pay : ( Last edited by MadCroatian; 10-30-2010 at 08:31 PM.

10-30-2010, 08:32 PM	#3
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	[QUOTE=MadCroatian;3797317]who caved?[/QUOTE] looks like cablevision... [QUOTE][B]Fox, Cablevision Reach Agreement, End Blackout [/B] By GEORGE STAHL NEW YORK -- Cablevision Systems Corp. and Fox Networks reached an agreement ending a two-week stalemate marked by heated rhetoric, legal actions and missed sporting events. The animosity continued even after an agreement was reached as Cablevison complained about agreeing to pay Fox "an unfair price" and about "the absence of any meaningful action" from the Federal Communications Commission. Terms of the deal were not disclosed. Fox is owned by News Corp., which also owns Dow Jones & Co., publisher of this newswire and The Wall Street Journal. "Cablevision has agreed to pay Fox an unfair price for multiple channels of its programming including many in which our customers have little or no interest," the cable operator said in an emailed statement. "Cablevision conceded because it does not think its customers should any longer be denied the Fox programs they wish to see." The agreement covers Fox 5 and My9 in New York, Fox 29 in Philadelphia and the cable channels Fox Deportes, Fox Business Network, and Nat Geo Wild. The signals for all stations and cable channels were restored Saturday before the first pitch of World Series Game 3 on Fox. Cablevision's 3 million mostly New York area households already had missed the first two games of the series, the National League Championship Series and a New York Giants football game.[/QUOTE] [url]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703414504575584900713403986.html[/url]

10-30-2010, 08:33 PM	#4
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	[QUOTE=MadCroatian;3797317]who caved? nm. just read it. Cablevision caved. Good for Fox's pocketbooks. Bad for Cablevision. Which is essentially, bad for us, cuz the additional fee is gonna mean increased bills we gotta pay : ([/QUOTE] i'm sure the commercials run by FIOS the past week helped force the issue for cablevision...

10-30-2010, 08:33 PM	#5
32green The original road-kill pus slurper. MMMmmm pus. Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The depths of Despair. Posts: 37,672	[QUOTE=MadCroatian;3797317]who caved?[/QUOTE] Sounds like Cablevision, they are complaining about the unfair deal already. Honestly, I hate the Dolans and cablevision but I could not find one ounce of evidence that Fox wasnt the villians here. The wording of their anti CV ads....all very disingenuous and double talk. Insulting our intelligence I thought. Still, happy to be watching the WS tonight.:yes:

10-30-2010, 08:33 PM	#6
MCBNY Token Liberal All League Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 2,973	Fox is horrible. Fck them.

10-30-2010, 08:46 PM	#7
rep All League Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Groton Posts: 2,799	Good news. Anything that lowers James Dolan's bank account is a win in my books.

10-30-2010, 08:50 PM	#8
HitSomeone41 is watching The First 48.... All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lima Zulu Posts: 6,064	So this means i dont have to find a bar....Wooooooooo!! I dreaded having to watch this game with non-Jets fans. Gotta set up my DVR......Woooooooooo!!!

10-30-2010, 08:53 PM	#9
MCBNY Token Liberal All League Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 2,973	If this team were really the Same Old Jets, a deal would not have been struck.

10-30-2010, 09:04 PM	#10
32green The original road-kill pus slurper. MMMmmm pus. Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The depths of Despair. Posts: 37,672	[QUOTE=rep;3797326]Good news. Anything that lowers James Dolan's bank account is a win in my books.[/QUOTE] At first glance, I would agree, but I'm pretty sure that they wont lose one thin dime. I will lose a lot of dimes. And they will smugly blame Fox. Heck, if it came out that Fox and Cable were in cahoots on this, I wouldnt be surprised. :rolleyes:

10-30-2010, 09:51 PM	#11
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	[QUOTE=32green;3797334]At first glance, I would agree, but I'm pretty sure that they wont lose one thin dime. I will lose a lot of dimes. And they will smugly blame Fox. Heck, if it came out that Fox and Cable were in cahoots on this, I wouldnt be surprised. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] i don't know about that- with all the choices out there, (dish, fios, cable) call up and play hard ball with them...that's what i did w/directtv... or in your case at least threaten to hit them with your purse...:D

10-30-2010, 10:41 PM	#12
Jetfan61 Waterboy Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 48	[QUOTE=rep;3797326]Good news. Anything that lowers James Dolan's bank account is a win in my books.[/QUOTE] I hate Dolan myself but we the subscribers will ultimatly pay.....

10-30-2010, 10:45 PM	#14
ikazippy Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 388	Fox is the villain here but Cablevision feigning concern for their customers made me physically ill. Cablevision does the same thing to other companies when they are the content provider. They are so insecure that they don't even offer MSG Network to Dish Network nor do they offer any of the NY Sports programming they own in HD to Fios. Whether they thought $150 million was too much for Fox programming was irrelevant. Fox could have asked for $500 million and Cablevision wouldn't have cared because whatever the cost for the Fox programming they would have passed that buck onto its subscribers. What I do see that is troubling is it seems every year we go through another programming dispute of one kind or another. I'm not a big government intervention guy but I think in the case of broadcast rights and fees at the expense of losing valuable programming the FCC should be more proactive in avoiding these disputes.

10-30-2010, 10:51 PM	#15
32green The original road-kill pus slurper. MMMmmm pus. Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The depths of Despair. Posts: 37,672	[QUOTE=ikazippy;3797367]Fox is the villain here but Cablevision feigning concern for their customers made me physically ill. Cablevision does the same thing to other companies when they are the content provider. They are so insecure that they don't even offer MSG Network to Dish Network nor do they offer any of the NY Sports programming they own in HD to Fios. Whether they thought $150 million was too much for Fox programming was irrelevant. Fox could have asked for $500 million and Cablevision wouldn't have cared because whatever the cost for the Fox programming they would have passed that buck onto its subscribers. What I do see that is troubling is it seems every year we go through another programming dispute of one kind or another. I'm not a big government intervention guy but I think in the case of broadcast rights and fees at the expense of losing valuable programming the FCC should be more proactive in avoiding these disputes.[/QUOTE] Or, how about a defined reimbursement for services paid for and not provided? Cable offered me 10 bucks to watch the WS through MLB...but what about the rest of the programming my wife missed? We paid for that. We paid for every second of programming on 9 and 5 for the length of this dispute. So agreed, bring on the Feds. No one else is looking out for us.

10-30-2010, 10:52 PM	#16
peterj55 Rookie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 68	[QUOTE=MadCroatian;3797317]who caved? nm. just read it. Cablevision caved. Good for Fox's pocketbooks. Bad for Cablevision. Which is essentially, bad for us, cuz the additional fee is gonna mean increased bills we gotta pay : ([/QUOTE] GET DIRECTV CABLE IS A RIPPOFF ..:cool:

10-30-2010, 10:57 PM	#17
Austin WINNING All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Upper East Side Posts: 6,183	I want to switch to sattelite, but am terrified of getting crappy reception. I'm tempted by Fios... NFL Network and Redzone channel? Yes please.

10-30-2010, 11:21 PM	#18
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	[QUOTE=32green;3797364]Dick. I actually did the switch to Dish back when Cable refused to carry the Yes Network. Had to be 7-8 years ago, no? Then, after the fifth time I lost signal when it was cloudy...and Cable picked up Yes... I switched back. Switching sucked. Just a pain in the arse. And I havent been convinced FIOS is an upgrade.[/QUOTE] you lost the signal when it was cloudy??? wtf??? go buy the real equipment rather than pay miguel $5 a day to hold a tin foil dish out in the road for you- that should solve the issue...

10-30-2010, 11:46 PM	#19
32green The original road-kill pus slurper. MMMmmm pus. Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The depths of Despair. Posts: 37,672	[QUOTE=Come Back to NY;3797383]you lost the signal when it was cloudy??? wtf??? go buy the real equipment rather than pay miguel $5 a day to hold a tin foil dish out in the road for you- that should solve the issue...[/QUOTE] I had it professionally installed by a mulleted white dude who hammered the dish into my roof. He had a uniform and a compass. -

10-30-2010, 11:59 PM	#20
skipper Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 108	[QUOTE=rep;3797326]Good news. Anything that lowers James Dolan's bank account is a win in my books.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but it raises Murdoch's , and that's a loss.