Bill Parcells to tape ESPN draft special

C Mart · 03-24-2011, 05:14 PM

[B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Bill Parcells to tape ESPN draft special[/SIZE][/FONT][/B]

[FONT=Arial][SIZE=1][COLOR=#666666]ESPN.com news services[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

BRISTOL, Conn. -- Bill Parcells is no longer affiliated with the [URL="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/mia/miami-dolphins"]Miami Dolphins[/URL] and will tape a draft special for ESPN.

Dolphins spokesman Harvey Greene said Thursday "he's not associated with the team anymore in any official capacity."

Parcells turned control of Miami's football operations over to general manager Jeff Ireland shortly before last season.

He later cleaned out his office and stopped working at the Dolphins' complex, but still served as a consultant. Parcells was hired in Miami after the 2007 season.

Parcells was hired by Wayne Huizenga as the Dolphins staggered to the end of a 1-15 season in 2007. In the Parcells regime's first year in 2008, Miami made a great leap forward to 11-6 and a playoff berth under first-year NFL coach Tony Sparano, who also came from the Cowboys.

As a coach, Parcells took over losing teams with the Giants, Patriots, Jets and Cowboys and transformed them into winners. He won five division titles in 19 seasons and led the Giants to two Super Bowl championships.

[B]Parcells is scheduled to tape a 90-minute special about the inner workings of the draft next month. ESPN says that "is all that's planned at this time" for Parcells[/B].

Parcells worked as a studio analyst for ESPN in 2001-02 and 2007 between NFL jobs.

[URL]http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=6254776&type=story[/URL]

brady's a catcher · 03-24-2011, 05:17 PM

[QUOTE=C Mart;3987392][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Bill Parcells to tape ESPN draft special[/SIZE][/FONT][/B]

[FONT=Arial][SIZE=1][COLOR=#666666]ESPN.com news services[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

BRISTOL, Conn. -- Bill Parcells is no longer affiliated with the [URL="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/mia/miami-dolphins"]Miami Dolphins[/URL] and will tape a draft special for ESPN.

Dolphins spokesman Harvey Greene said Thursday "he's not associated with the team anymore in any official capacity."

Parcells turned control of Miami's football operations over to general manager Jeff Ireland shortly before last season.

He later cleaned out his office and stopped working at the Dolphins' complex, but still served as a consultant. Parcells was hired in Miami after the 2007 season.

Parcells was hired by Wayne Huizenga as the Dolphins staggered to the end of a 1-15 season in 2007. In the Parcells regime's first year in 2008, Miami made a great leap forward to 11-6 and a playoff berth under first-year NFL coach Tony Sparano, who also came from the Cowboys.

As a coach, Parcells took over losing teams with the Giants, Patriots, Jets and Cowboys and transformed them into winners. He won five division titles in 19 seasons and led the Giants to two Super Bowl championships.

[B]Parcells is scheduled to tape a 90-minute special about the inner workings of the draft next month. ESPN says that "is all that's planned at this time" for Parcells[/B].

Parcells worked as a studio analyst for ESPN in 2001-02 and 2007 between NFL jobs.

[URL]http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=6254776&type=story[/URL][/QUOTE]

It's gonna take 90 minutes to explain why he passed on taking Orlando Pace?

intelligentjetsfan · 03-24-2011, 06:46 PM

and another 45 minutes to explain drafting Pat White :rolleyes:

NYDreamer · 03-24-2011, 07:07 PM

And another 45 minutes for not telling [B]Payton Manning[/B] that he would have selected him with the 1st pick in the draft at the end of his JR year.

Savage69 · 03-24-2011, 07:27 PM

[QUOTE=NYDreamer;3987469]And another 45 minutes for not telling [B]Payton Manning[/B] that he would have selected him with the 1st pick in the draft at the end of his JR year.[/QUOTE]

He didn't want Manning because he was only going to coach for 3 years and didn't want a rookie QB..:yes:

David Harris · 03-24-2011, 07:29 PM

[QUOTE=NYDreamer;3987469]And another 45 minutes for not telling [B]Payton Manning[/B] that he would have selected him with the 1st pick in the draft at the end of his JR year.[/QUOTE]

:steamin::eek::steamin:

Phoenixx · 03-24-2011, 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=C Mart;3987392]
[B]Parcells is scheduled to tape a 90-minute special about the inner workings of the draft next month. ESPN says that "is all that's planned at this time" for Parcells[/B]. [/QUOTE]

If he signed a contract, no doubt he'll be gone in an hour.

lamont_jordan_rules · 03-25-2011, 09:52 AM

[QUOTE=Phoenixx;3987497]If he signed a contract, no doubt he'll be gone in an hour.[/QUOTE]

... :clapper: ... haahahaha ... well played ... :yes:

l_j_r

Beerfish · 03-25-2011, 09:57 AM

Will Dorian Boose be a guest?

revischrist · 03-25-2011, 10:20 AM

Alot of hate on Parcells, but he has a history of success in the league and I am personally a big fan of his. Yeah, every GM has their own Vernon Gholston moments, but all in all he has a sick history of drafting in the first round. Will definitely watch this show.

His draft history - pulled from another site)
1- Starting from when he took his first Head Coaching job in 1983 for the GIANTS. (Not sure of how much input he had in these)

1983' [B]Terry Kinard[/B], Defensive Back- Clemson
1984' [B]Carl Banks[/B], Outside Linebacker- Michigan State
1985' George Adams, Running back- Kentucky
1986' Eric Dorsey, Defensive End- Notre Dame
1987' Mark Ingram, Wide Receiver- Michigan State
1988' Eric Moore, Offensive Guard- Indiana
1989' Brian Williams, Center- Minnesota
1990' [B]Rodney Hampton[/B], Running Back- Georgia

Retired, Football analyst for NBC Sports from 1991–1992

Head Coach for the Patriots
1993' [B]Drew Bledsoe[/B], Quarterback- Washington State
1994' [B]Willie McGinest[/B], Linebacker- USC
1995' [B]Ty Law[/B], Defensive Back- Michigan
1996' [B]Terry Glenn[/B], Wide Receiver- Ohio State

Left the Patriots due to the fact owner Robert Kraft made BP take Terry Glenn, when BP wanted to draft a defensive player.

Head Coach/ GM for the Jets
1997' J[B]ames Farrior[/B], Linebacker- Virginia
1998'-1999' No picks
2000a' [B]Shaun Ellis[/B], Defensive End- Tennessee
2000b' J[B]ohn Abraham[/B], Defensive End- South Carolina
2000c' Chad Pennington, Quarterback- Marshall
2000d' Anthony Becht, Tight End- West Virginia

Retired from football for the second time

Cowboys Head Coach
2003' [B]Terence Newman[/B], Cornerback- Kansas State
2004' No pick
2005a' [B]DeMarcus Ware[/B], Linebacker- Troy
2005b' Marcus Spears, Defensive End- LSU
2006' Bobby Carpenter, Linebacker- Ohio State

Dolphins GM
2008' [B]Jake Long[/B], Offensive tackle- Michigan
2009' Vontae Davis. Cornerback- Illinois

(stole this from here: [url]http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=464382[/url]

intelligentjetsfan · 03-25-2011, 06:46 PM

[QUOTE=revischrist;3987841]Alot of hate on Parcells, but he has a history of success in the league and I am personally a big fan of his. Yeah, every GM has their own Vernon Gholston moments, but all in all he has a sick history of drafting in the first round. Will definitely watch this show.

His draft history - pulled from another site)
1- Starting from when he took his first Head Coaching job in 1983 for the GIANTS. (Not sure of how much input he had in these)

1983' [B]Terry Kinard[/B], Defensive Back- Clemson
1984' [B]Carl Banks[/B], Outside Linebacker- Michigan State
1985' George Adams, Running back- Kentucky
1986' Eric Dorsey, Defensive End- Notre Dame
1987' Mark Ingram, Wide Receiver- Michigan State
1988' Eric Moore, Offensive Guard- Indiana
1989' Brian Williams, Center- Minnesota
1990' [B]Rodney Hampton[/B], Running Back- Georgia

Retired, Football analyst for NBC Sports from 1991–1992

Head Coach for the Patriots
1993' [B]Drew Bledsoe[/B], Quarterback- Washington State
1994' [B]Willie McGinest[/B], Linebacker- USC
1995' [B]Ty Law[/B], Defensive Back- Michigan
1996' [B]Terry Glenn[/B], Wide Receiver- Ohio State

Left the Patriots due to the fact owner Robert Kraft made BP take Terry Glenn, when BP wanted to draft a defensive player.

Head Coach/ GM for the Jets
1997' J[B]ames Farrior[/B], Linebacker- Virginia
1998'-1999' No picks
2000a' [B]Shaun Ellis[/B], Defensive End- Tennessee
2000b' J[B]ohn Abraham[/B], Defensive End- South Carolina
2000c' Chad Pennington, Quarterback- Marshall
2000d' Anthony Becht, Tight End- West Virginia

Retired from football for the second time

Cowboys Head Coach
2003' [B]Terence Newman[/B], Cornerback- Kansas State
2004' No pick
2005a' [B]DeMarcus Ware[/B], Linebacker- Troy
2005b' Marcus Spears, Defensive End- LSU
2006' Bobby Carpenter, Linebacker- Ohio State

Dolphins GM
2008' [B]Jake Long[/B], Offensive tackle- Michigan
2009' Vontae Davis. Cornerback- Illinois

(stole this from here: [url]http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=464382[/url][/QUOTE]

his first round picks tell only one part of the story on his job as GM. His overall record of drafting and free agent pick ups is very spotty. But, in the mind of this poster, the venom for Parcells exists because he is all about himself.

His record of arrogance and greed would be legendary except for the apologists in the media.

Come Back to NY · 03-25-2011, 06:50 PM

[QUOTE=brady's a catcher;3987396]It's gonna take 90 minutes to explain why he passed on taking Orlando Pace?[/QUOTE]

and took a sh!t trade instead....

Come Back to NY · 03-25-2011, 06:52 PM

[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;3988330]his first round picks tell only one part of the story on his job as GM. His overall record of drafting and free agent pick ups is very spotty. But, in the mind of this poster, the venom for Parcells exists because he is all about himself.

His record of arrogance and greed would be legendary except for the apologists in the media.[/QUOTE]

but he's got the rings to back it up, so who cares....george steinbrenner was a greedy, arrogant SOB but i'm sure yankee fans would not trade him for the world...

as far as his gm skills i agree with you- lousy gm yet a sensational coach and field manager which made up for it...

intelligentjetsfan · 03-25-2011, 07:24 PM

[QUOTE=Come Back to NY;3988332]but he's got the rings to back it up, so who cares....george steinbrenner was a greedy, arrogant SOB but i'm sure yankee fans would not trade him for the world...

as far as his gm skills i agree with you- lousy gm yet a sensational coach and field manager which made up for it...[/QUOTE]

I am in total agreement that he was a great coach. The difference between Parcells and Steinbrenner was that even though they were both arrogant ego maniacs, at least George was loyal to one team. Of course its not an apples to apples comparison as one was an owner and another head coach. But Parcells showed no loyality to anyone but himself. His track record with what he pulled on the Patriots, Giants (after the 86' super bowl) and the Jets was a disgrace. Even as recently as last season with Miami, he was *****ing and complaining about quitting. And that was at a job where he was getting paid millions and could come and go as he pleased. At one point he even admitted to the media that he stopped watching the dolphin games.....because it became too stressful. :rolleyes:

There is NFL footage of Parcells as a giants coach in the late 80s, moaning to Buddy Ryan about how he is getting tired and may retire-he was in his mid 40s!? Parcells was all about himself and his word meant very little. Great coach, average GM, selfish person.

child please · 03-25-2011, 09:04 PM

Jake Long over Matt Ryan, every Jet fan thanks you Bill.

sg3 · 03-25-2011, 09:15 PM

[QUOTE=child please;3988387]Jake Long over Matt Ryan, every Jet fan thanks you Bill.[/QUOTE]

He had some input but ZERO final control over ALL those giant draft picks. George Young had 100 percent final control

He also had little control and final say with the patriots

There was a famous huge screaming match with the Pats GM 1996 when he wanted (as he always did every season and every draft) to take a linebacker in round one and the GM told him to leave the room, then drafted Terry Glenn the wide receiver. We all remember him referring to Glenn as "she" in the entire first training camp

This was the principal reason why he quit on the Patriots and joined the Jets where Leon Hess was willing to give him anything including the final control in "buying the groceries"

and yes -- those groceries decisions included passing on Pace and trading down 7 times in the 1997 draft (taking a linebacker of course in Farrior) and then trading down again the next year before scarfing up Dorian Boose (who he was going to convert into a linebacker)

Great HC

pretty much a meh drafter

Phoenixx · 03-25-2011, 09:45 PM

[QUOTE=sg3;3988391]There was a famous huge screaming match with the Pats GM 1996 when he wanted (as he always did every season and every draft) to take a linebacker in round one and the GM told him to leave the room, then drafted Terry Glenn the wide receiver. [/qUOTE]

Some people think he wanted to draft Homer Jones. :D

[url]http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213331&page=1[/url]

Much ado about Nothing · 03-25-2011, 10:06 PM

[QUOTE=Come Back to NY;3988331]and took a sh!t trade instead....[/QUOTE]

Really the worst part of it.

I like how Parcells drafts otherwise...I'm still impressed at the '05 Cowboys haul because it was such a crap draft...two starters on the DL and arguably the best pass rusher in the draft...and Ware was a total scouting call because I don't think anyone called him in the teens.

C Mart · 03-26-2011, 10:21 AM

[QUOTE=Phoenixx;3988400]Some people think he wanted to draft Homer Jones. :D

[URL]http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213331&page=1[/URL][/QUOTE]

Oh my...I don't know if there has ever been a thread with that many inaccurate posts in it...

sameoldjets · 03-26-2011, 02:02 PM

hey, whatever. parcells is like the little girl with the curl. his reputation far exceeds his record as a coach or gm. true enough he got 4 teams on the winning track but then he also dumped murrell for martin and, imo, was personally responsible for the jets not making the playoffs in 1997. for all of odonnell's faults, he was a better qb than foley and/or lucas and possibly vinny but he didn't see eye to eye with parcells so he was launched before he had a chance to show anything. and also keep in mind that he took over teams that had very talented players since they were drafting so high for so many years. i would almost say that kotite was a better drafter than parcells.

i think it's time he just retired and stepped out of the nfl.

03-24-2011, 05:14 PM	#1
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,314	Bill Parcells to tape ESPN draft special [B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Bill Parcells to tape ESPN draft special[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=1][COLOR=#666666]ESPN.com news services[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] BRISTOL, Conn. -- Bill Parcells is no longer affiliated with the [URL="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/mia/miami-dolphins"]Miami Dolphins[/URL] and will tape a draft special for ESPN. Dolphins spokesman Harvey Greene said Thursday "he's not associated with the team anymore in any official capacity." Parcells turned control of Miami's football operations over to general manager Jeff Ireland shortly before last season. He later cleaned out his office and stopped working at the Dolphins' complex, but still served as a consultant. Parcells was hired in Miami after the 2007 season. Parcells was hired by Wayne Huizenga as the Dolphins staggered to the end of a 1-15 season in 2007. In the Parcells regime's first year in 2008, Miami made a great leap forward to 11-6 and a playoff berth under first-year NFL coach Tony Sparano, who also came from the Cowboys. As a coach, Parcells took over losing teams with the Giants, Patriots, Jets and Cowboys and transformed them into winners. He won five division titles in 19 seasons and led the Giants to two Super Bowl championships. [B]Parcells is scheduled to tape a 90-minute special about the inner workings of the draft next month. ESPN says that "is all that's planned at this time" for Parcells[/B]. Parcells worked as a studio analyst for ESPN in 2001-02 and 2007 between NFL jobs. [URL]http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=6254776&type=story[/URL]

03-25-2011, 07:24 PM	#14
intelligentjetsfan All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,320	[QUOTE=Come Back to NY;3988332]but he's got the rings to back it up, so who cares....george steinbrenner was a greedy, arrogant SOB but i'm sure yankee fans would not trade him for the world... as far as his gm skills i agree with you- lousy gm yet a sensational coach and field manager which made up for it...[/QUOTE] I am in total agreement that he was a great coach. The difference between Parcells and Steinbrenner was that even though they were both arrogant ego maniacs, at least George was loyal to one team. Of course its not an apples to apples comparison as one was an owner and another head coach. But Parcells showed no loyality to anyone but himself. His track record with what he pulled on the Patriots, Giants (after the 86' super bowl) and the Jets was a disgrace. Even as recently as last season with Miami, he was ****ing and complaining about quitting. And that was at a job where he was getting paid millions and could come and go as he pleased. At one point he even admitted to the media that he stopped watching the dolphin games.....because it became too stressful. :rolleyes: There is NFL footage of Parcells as a giants coach in the late 80s, moaning to Buddy Ryan about how he is getting tired and may retire-he was in his mid 40s!? Parcells was all about himself and his word meant very little. Great coach, average GM, selfish person. Last edited by intelligentjetsfan; 03-25-2011 at 07:27 PM.*

03-24-2011, 05:17 PM	#2
brady's a catcher R.I.P Goofy Maloof All Pro Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 6,731	[QUOTE=C Mart;3987392][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Bill Parcells to tape ESPN draft special[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=1][COLOR=#666666]ESPN.com news services[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] BRISTOL, Conn. -- Bill Parcells is no longer affiliated with the [URL="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/mia/miami-dolphins"]Miami Dolphins[/URL] and will tape a draft special for ESPN. Dolphins spokesman Harvey Greene said Thursday "he's not associated with the team anymore in any official capacity." Parcells turned control of Miami's football operations over to general manager Jeff Ireland shortly before last season. He later cleaned out his office and stopped working at the Dolphins' complex, but still served as a consultant. Parcells was hired in Miami after the 2007 season. Parcells was hired by Wayne Huizenga as the Dolphins staggered to the end of a 1-15 season in 2007. In the Parcells regime's first year in 2008, Miami made a great leap forward to 11-6 and a playoff berth under first-year NFL coach Tony Sparano, who also came from the Cowboys. As a coach, Parcells took over losing teams with the Giants, Patriots, Jets and Cowboys and transformed them into winners. He won five division titles in 19 seasons and led the Giants to two Super Bowl championships. [B]Parcells is scheduled to tape a 90-minute special about the inner workings of the draft next month. ESPN says that "is all that's planned at this time" for Parcells[/B]. Parcells worked as a studio analyst for ESPN in 2001-02 and 2007 between NFL jobs. [URL]http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=6254776&type=story[/URL][/QUOTE] It's gonna take 90 minutes to explain why he passed on taking Orlando Pace?

03-24-2011, 06:46 PM	#3
intelligentjetsfan All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,320	and another 45 minutes to explain drafting Pat White :rolleyes:

03-24-2011, 07:07 PM	#4
NYDreamer Dreaming of a Jets Superbowl Practice Squad Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 468	And another 45 minutes for not telling [B]Payton Manning[/B] that he would have selected him with the 1st pick in the draft at the end of his JR year.

03-24-2011, 07:27 PM	#5
Savage69 Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 39,388	[QUOTE=NYDreamer;3987469]And another 45 minutes for not telling [B]Payton Manning[/B] that he would have selected him with the 1st pick in the draft at the end of his JR year.[/QUOTE] He didn't want Manning because he was only going to coach for 3 years and didn't want a rookie QB..:yes:

03-24-2011, 07:29 PM	#6
David Harris All Pro Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Murray Hill Posts: 7,101	[QUOTE=NYDreamer;3987469]And another 45 minutes for not telling [B]Payton Manning[/B] that he would have selected him with the 1st pick in the draft at the end of his JR year.[/QUOTE] :steamin::eek::steamin:

03-24-2011, 07:55 PM	#7
Phoenixx Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fairfield County, CT Posts: 6,870	[QUOTE=C Mart;3987392] [B]Parcells is scheduled to tape a 90-minute special about the inner workings of the draft next month. ESPN says that "is all that's planned at this time" for Parcells[/B]. [/QUOTE] If he signed a contract, no doubt he'll be gone in an hour.

03-25-2011, 09:52 AM	#8
lamont_jordan_rules Can't Wait To See Marty Mornhinweg's Offense! Hall of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Atlanta via NJ Posts: 6,313	[QUOTE=Phoenixx;3987497]If he signed a contract, no doubt he'll be gone in an hour.[/QUOTE] ... :clapper: ... haahahaha ... well played ... :yes: l_j_r

03-25-2011, 09:57 AM	#9
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,116	Will Dorian Boose be a guest?

03-25-2011, 10:20 AM	#10
revischrist Dee Best! Veteran Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,765	Alot of hate on Parcells, but he has a history of success in the league and I am personally a big fan of his. Yeah, every GM has their own Vernon Gholston moments, but all in all he has a sick history of drafting in the first round. Will definitely watch this show. His draft history - pulled from another site) 1- Starting from when he took his first Head Coaching job in 1983 for the GIANTS. (Not sure of how much input he had in these) 1983' [B]Terry Kinard[/B], Defensive Back- Clemson 1984' [B]Carl Banks[/B], Outside Linebacker- Michigan State 1985' George Adams, Running back- Kentucky 1986' Eric Dorsey, Defensive End- Notre Dame 1987' Mark Ingram, Wide Receiver- Michigan State 1988' Eric Moore, Offensive Guard- Indiana 1989' Brian Williams, Center- Minnesota 1990' [B]Rodney Hampton[/B], Running Back- Georgia Retired, Football analyst for NBC Sports from 1991–1992 Head Coach for the Patriots 1993' [B]Drew Bledsoe[/B], Quarterback- Washington State 1994' [B]Willie McGinest[/B], Linebacker- USC 1995' [B]Ty Law[/B], Defensive Back- Michigan 1996' [B]Terry Glenn[/B], Wide Receiver- Ohio State Left the Patriots due to the fact owner Robert Kraft made BP take Terry Glenn, when BP wanted to draft a defensive player. Head Coach/ GM for the Jets 1997' J[B]ames Farrior[/B], Linebacker- Virginia 1998'-1999' No picks 2000a' [B]Shaun Ellis[/B], Defensive End- Tennessee 2000b' J[B]ohn Abraham[/B], Defensive End- South Carolina 2000c' Chad Pennington, Quarterback- Marshall 2000d' Anthony Becht, Tight End- West Virginia Retired from football for the second time Cowboys Head Coach 2003' [B]Terence Newman[/B], Cornerback- Kansas State 2004' No pick 2005a' [B]DeMarcus Ware[/B], Linebacker- Troy 2005b' Marcus Spears, Defensive End- LSU 2006' Bobby Carpenter, Linebacker- Ohio State Dolphins GM 2008' [B]Jake Long[/B], Offensive tackle- Michigan 2009' Vontae Davis. Cornerback- Illinois (stole this from here: [url]http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=464382[/url]

03-25-2011, 06:46 PM	#11
intelligentjetsfan All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,320	[QUOTE=revischrist;3987841]Alot of hate on Parcells, but he has a history of success in the league and I am personally a big fan of his. Yeah, every GM has their own Vernon Gholston moments, but all in all he has a sick history of drafting in the first round. Will definitely watch this show. His draft history - pulled from another site) 1- Starting from when he took his first Head Coaching job in 1983 for the GIANTS. (Not sure of how much input he had in these) 1983' [B]Terry Kinard[/B], Defensive Back- Clemson 1984' [B]Carl Banks[/B], Outside Linebacker- Michigan State 1985' George Adams, Running back- Kentucky 1986' Eric Dorsey, Defensive End- Notre Dame 1987' Mark Ingram, Wide Receiver- Michigan State 1988' Eric Moore, Offensive Guard- Indiana 1989' Brian Williams, Center- Minnesota 1990' [B]Rodney Hampton[/B], Running Back- Georgia Retired, Football analyst for NBC Sports from 1991–1992 Head Coach for the Patriots 1993' [B]Drew Bledsoe[/B], Quarterback- Washington State 1994' [B]Willie McGinest[/B], Linebacker- USC 1995' [B]Ty Law[/B], Defensive Back- Michigan 1996' [B]Terry Glenn[/B], Wide Receiver- Ohio State Left the Patriots due to the fact owner Robert Kraft made BP take Terry Glenn, when BP wanted to draft a defensive player. Head Coach/ GM for the Jets 1997' J[B]ames Farrior[/B], Linebacker- Virginia 1998'-1999' No picks 2000a' [B]Shaun Ellis[/B], Defensive End- Tennessee 2000b' J[B]ohn Abraham[/B], Defensive End- South Carolina 2000c' Chad Pennington, Quarterback- Marshall 2000d' Anthony Becht, Tight End- West Virginia Retired from football for the second time Cowboys Head Coach 2003' [B]Terence Newman[/B], Cornerback- Kansas State 2004' No pick 2005a' [B]DeMarcus Ware[/B], Linebacker- Troy 2005b' Marcus Spears, Defensive End- LSU 2006' Bobby Carpenter, Linebacker- Ohio State Dolphins GM 2008' [B]Jake Long[/B], Offensive tackle- Michigan 2009' Vontae Davis. Cornerback- Illinois (stole this from here: [url]http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=464382[/url][/QUOTE] his first round picks tell only one part of the story on his job as GM. His overall record of drafting and free agent pick ups is very spotty. But, in the mind of this poster, the venom for Parcells exists because he is all about himself. His record of arrogance and greed would be legendary except for the apologists in the media.

03-25-2011, 06:50 PM	#12
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	[QUOTE=brady's a catcher;3987396]It's gonna take 90 minutes to explain why he passed on taking Orlando Pace?[/QUOTE] and took a sh!t trade instead....

03-25-2011, 06:52 PM	#13
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;3988330]his first round picks tell only one part of the story on his job as GM. His overall record of drafting and free agent pick ups is very spotty. But, in the mind of this poster, the venom for Parcells exists because he is all about himself. His record of arrogance and greed would be legendary except for the apologists in the media.[/QUOTE] but he's got the rings to back it up, so who cares....george steinbrenner was a greedy, arrogant SOB but i'm sure yankee fans would not trade him for the world... as far as his gm skills i agree with you- lousy gm yet a sensational coach and field manager which made up for it...

03-25-2011, 09:04 PM	#15
child please Rookie Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 923	Jake Long over Matt Ryan, every Jet fan thanks you Bill.

03-25-2011, 09:15 PM	#16
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,919	[QUOTE=child please;3988387]Jake Long over Matt Ryan, every Jet fan thanks you Bill.[/QUOTE] He had some input but ZERO final control over ALL those giant draft picks. George Young had 100 percent final control He also had little control and final say with the patriots There was a famous huge screaming match with the Pats GM 1996 when he wanted (as he always did every season and every draft) to take a linebacker in round one and the GM told him to leave the room, then drafted Terry Glenn the wide receiver. We all remember him referring to Glenn as "she" in the entire first training camp This was the principal reason why he quit on the Patriots and joined the Jets where Leon Hess was willing to give him anything including the final control in "buying the groceries" and yes -- those groceries decisions included passing on Pace and trading down 7 times in the 1997 draft (taking a linebacker of course in Farrior) and then trading down again the next year before scarfing up Dorian Boose (who he was going to convert into a linebacker) Great HC pretty much a meh drafter

03-25-2011, 09:45 PM	#17
Phoenixx Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fairfield County, CT Posts: 6,870	[QUOTE=sg3;3988391]There was a famous huge screaming match with the Pats GM 1996 when he wanted (as he always did every season and every draft) to take a linebacker in round one and the GM told him to leave the room, then drafted Terry Glenn the wide receiver. [/qUOTE] Some people think he wanted to draft Homer Jones. :D [url]http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213331&page=1[/url]

03-25-2011, 10:06 PM	#18
Much ado about Nothing Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,602	[QUOTE=Come Back to NY;3988331]and took a sh!t trade instead....[/QUOTE] Really the worst part of it. I like how Parcells drafts otherwise...I'm still impressed at the '05 Cowboys haul because it was such a crap draft...two starters on the DL and arguably the best pass rusher in the draft...and Ware was a total scouting call because I don't think anyone called him in the teens.

03-26-2011, 10:21 AM	#19
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,314	[QUOTE=Phoenixx;3988400]Some people think he wanted to draft Homer Jones. :D [URL]http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213331&page=1[/URL][/QUOTE] Oh my...I don't know if there has ever been a thread with that many inaccurate posts in it...

03-26-2011, 02:02 PM	#20
sameoldjets All Pro Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,497	hey, whatever. parcells is like the little girl with the curl. his reputation far exceeds his record as a coach or gm. true enough he got 4 teams on the winning track but then he also dumped murrell for martin and, imo, was personally responsible for the jets not making the playoffs in 1997. for all of odonnell's faults, he was a better qb than foley and/or lucas and possibly vinny but he didn't see eye to eye with parcells so he was launched before he had a chance to show anything. and also keep in mind that he took over teams that had very talented players since they were drafting so high for so many years. i would almost say that kotite was a better drafter than parcells. i think it's time he just retired and stepped out of the nfl.