Do you support the players' efforts to destroy the draft?

freestater · 04-24-2011, 08:53 AM

The lawyers for the players' have argued that all restrictions on free agency including the draft, are illegal. If Jeffery Kessler (the players' lead attorney)was to win their court case, we could see an end to the draft itself. Kessler has made this position part of their strategy.

What do you think of the possibility? If the players courtroom success would lead to the end of the draft, would you support their position?

poll coming...

Winstonbiggs · 04-24-2011, 09:21 AM

No draft without a deal in place without restrictions on rookie contracts.

FlagmanL11 · 04-24-2011, 09:22 AM

No draft, the league will be gone in 10 years

sg3 · 04-24-2011, 09:24 AM

if the idiot judge in Minnesota rules in favor of the players --

welcome to the Noncompetitive Football League -- think MLB or WWE

well, actually they are the same thing

NY's stepchild · 04-24-2011, 09:30 AM

I support the fans, and would like to see the draft with a rookie cap, and like to see the games on schedule, at a reasonable price. I'd also like the owners and players hug each other, and then apologize to us and to each other. I'd also like world peace, and for everyone to have a puppy.

NY's stepchild · 04-24-2011, 09:40 AM

Why should they have to get 10 yards to get a first down? That should be illegal. We should have the courts decide how many yards you need. Why do QB's get paid more than kickers? That's not fair at all. Every team should make the playoffs and every college should have the same number of players drafted. That's only off the top of my head. There's plenty more inequity to be equalized.

Kurt Sohn · 04-24-2011, 09:44 AM

The players don't want to end the draft. It's just another area for negotiation.

freestater · 04-24-2011, 09:46 AM

[QUOTE=Kurt Sohn;4007872]The players don't want to end the draft. It's just another area for negotiation.[/QUOTE]

If they don't want the draft to end, they probably shouldn't have their lawyers arguing for it.

Winstonbiggs · 04-24-2011, 12:53 PM

[QUOTE=freestater;4007873]If they don't want the draft to end, they probably shouldn't have their lawyers arguing for it.[/QUOTE]

Owners locked out the players. When you fire the first shot don't expect the other side not to shoot back.

Buster · 04-24-2011, 12:57 PM

[QUOTE=Kurt Sohn;4007872]The players don't want to end the draft. It's just another area for negotiation.[/QUOTE]

+1

jetgreen13 · 04-24-2011, 01:21 PM

with no draft, how would collegiate ballplayers equably enter the NFL.. :hmm:

Buster · 04-24-2011, 01:28 PM

"…He who can destroy a thing controls a thing..."

~ Muad'Dib

jetgreen13 · 04-24-2011, 01:37 PM

[QUOTE=Buster;4007953]"…He who can destroy a thing controls a thing..."

~ Muad'Dib[/QUOTE]do tell..

NY's stepchild · 04-24-2011, 02:38 PM

[QUOTE=Winstonbiggs;4007939]Owners locked out the players. When you fire the first shot don't expect the other side not to shoot back.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that makes it okay. He started it! waa. Th owners shot first so lets annihilate each other just to prove a point. Idiots on either side having a pissing contest. They're pissing right on us, and you people like it...:confused:Whatever.

Winstonbiggs · 04-24-2011, 03:21 PM

[QUOTE=NY's stepchild;4007973]Yeah, that makes it okay. He started it! waa. Th owners shot first so lets annihilate each other just to prove a point. Idiots on either side having a pissing contest. They're pissing right on us, and you people like it...:confused:Whatever.[/QUOTE]

People usually don't go into the fetal position when they're attacked until they are defensless.

JamesR · 04-24-2011, 03:46 PM

[QUOTE=NY's stepchild;4007871]Why should they have to get 10 yards to get a first down? That should be illegal. We should have the courts decide how many yards you need. Why do QB's get paid more than kickers? That's not fair at all. Every team should make the playoffs and every college should have the same number of players drafted. That's only off the top of my head. There's plenty more inequity to be equalized.[/QUOTE]

Jets are owed AT LEAST three Superbowls, if not more. :D

AJAX40 · 04-24-2011, 03:48 PM

[QUOTE=NY's stepchild;4007867]I support the fans, and would like to see the draft with a rookie cap, and like to see the games on schedule, at a reasonable price. I'd also like the owners and players hug each other, and then apologize to us and to each other. I'd also like world peace, and for everyone to have a puppy.[/QUOTE]

I just got a puppy! You are good people mayne!

johnnysd · 04-24-2011, 04:37 PM

[QUOTE=Winstonbiggs;4007939]Owners locked out the players. When you fire the first shot don't expect the other side not to shoot back.[/QUOTE]

Totally untrue. The first shot was fired by the union by decertifying. That forced the owners to lock out.

Jet Nut · 04-24-2011, 04:53 PM

[QUOTE=freestater;4007873]If they don't want the draft to end, they probably shouldn't have their lawyers arguing for it.[/QUOTE]

Except it's a bogus bargaining chip towards a new CBA, he's right, they have no real problem with the draft.

greenwichjetfan · 04-24-2011, 04:53 PM

[QUOTE=NY's stepchild;4007867]I'd also like world peace, and for everyone to have a puppy.[/QUOTE]

Who are you to say what I should and shouldn't have? What if I don't want a damn puppy??

View Poll Results: Which statement reflects your viewpoint?
I support the owners, but would like to see an end to the draft	2	2.50%
I support the players, and would like to see an end to the draft	5	6.25%
I support the owners, and would like to see the draft continue.	31	38.75%
I support the players, but would like to see the draft continue.	42	52.50%
Voters: 80. You may not vote on this poll

04-24-2011, 08:53 AM	#1
freestater we gonna lay around the shanty, Mama, and put a good buzz on Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 13,507	Do you support the players' efforts to destroy the draft? The lawyers for the players' have argued that all restrictions on free agency including the draft, are illegal. If Jeffery Kessler (the players' lead attorney)was to win their court case, we could see an end to the draft itself. Kessler has made this position part of their strategy. What do you think of the possibility? If the players courtroom success would lead to the end of the draft, would you support their position? poll coming...

04-24-2011, 01:21 PM	#11
jetgreen13 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: transplanted new yorker in maryland Posts: 4,438	what i'm i missing.. with no draft, how would collegiate ballplayers equably enter the NFL.. :hmm:

04-24-2011, 09:21 AM	#2
Winstonbiggs Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,928	No draft without a deal in place without restrictions on rookie contracts.

04-24-2011, 09:22 AM	#3
FlagmanL11 4 months until the first home tailgate!! Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 3,064	No draft, the league will be gone in 10 years

04-24-2011, 09:24 AM	#4
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,380	if the idiot judge in Minnesota rules in favor of the players -- welcome to the Noncompetitive Football League -- think MLB or WWE well, actually they are the same thing

04-24-2011, 09:30 AM	#5
NY's stepchild Here's hoping that GS3 under center, and Coples on the edge works out. All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hawthorne NJ Posts: 4,713	I support the fans, and would like to see the draft with a rookie cap, and like to see the games on schedule, at a reasonable price. I'd also like the owners and players hug each other, and then apologize to us and to each other. I'd also like world peace, and for everyone to have a puppy.

04-24-2011, 09:40 AM	#6
NY's stepchild Here's hoping that GS3 under center, and Coples on the edge works out. All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hawthorne NJ Posts: 4,713	Why should they have to get 10 yards to get a first down? That should be illegal. We should have the courts decide how many yards you need. Why do QB's get paid more than kickers? That's not fair at all. Every team should make the playoffs and every college should have the same number of players drafted. That's only off the top of my head. There's plenty more inequity to be equalized.

04-24-2011, 09:44 AM	#7
Kurt Sohn Waterboy Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 85	The players don't want to end the draft. It's just another area for negotiation.

04-24-2011, 09:46 AM	#8
freestater we gonna lay around the shanty, Mama, and put a good buzz on Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 13,507	[QUOTE=Kurt Sohn;4007872]The players don't want to end the draft. It's just another area for negotiation.[/QUOTE] If they don't want the draft to end, they probably shouldn't have their lawyers arguing for it.

04-24-2011, 12:53 PM	#9
Winstonbiggs Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,928	[QUOTE=freestater;4007873]If they don't want the draft to end, they probably shouldn't have their lawyers arguing for it.[/QUOTE] Owners locked out the players. When you fire the first shot don't expect the other side not to shoot back.

04-24-2011, 12:57 PM	#10
Buster not a rocket surgeon All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East of the Jordan, West of the Rock of Gibraltar Posts: 4,267	[QUOTE=Kurt Sohn;4007872]The players don't want to end the draft. It's just another area for negotiation.[/QUOTE] +1

04-24-2011, 01:28 PM	#12
Buster not a rocket surgeon All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East of the Jordan, West of the Rock of Gibraltar Posts: 4,267	"…He who can destroy a thing controls a thing..." ~ Muad'Dib

04-24-2011, 01:37 PM	#13
jetgreen13 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: transplanted new yorker in maryland Posts: 4,438	[QUOTE=Buster;4007953]"…He who can destroy a thing controls a thing..." ~ Muad'Dib[/QUOTE]do tell..

04-24-2011, 02:38 PM	#14
NY's stepchild Here's hoping that GS3 under center, and Coples on the edge works out. All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hawthorne NJ Posts: 4,713	[QUOTE=Winstonbiggs;4007939]Owners locked out the players. When you fire the first shot don't expect the other side not to shoot back.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that makes it okay. He started it! waa. Th owners shot first so lets annihilate each other just to prove a point. Idiots on either side having a pissing contest. They're pissing right on us, and you people like it...:confused:Whatever.

04-24-2011, 03:21 PM	#15
Winstonbiggs Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,928	[QUOTE=NY's stepchild;4007973]Yeah, that makes it okay. He started it! waa. Th owners shot first so lets annihilate each other just to prove a point. Idiots on either side having a pissing contest. They're pissing right on us, and you people like it...:confused:Whatever.[/QUOTE] People usually don't go into the fetal position when they're attacked until they are defensless.

04-24-2011, 03:46 PM	#16
JamesR All League Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Reading, UK Posts: 4,812	[QUOTE=NY's stepchild;4007871]Why should they have to get 10 yards to get a first down? That should be illegal. We should have the courts decide how many yards you need. Why do QB's get paid more than kickers? That's not fair at all. Every team should make the playoffs and every college should have the same number of players drafted. That's only off the top of my head. There's plenty more inequity to be equalized.[/QUOTE] Jets are owed AT LEAST three Superbowls, if not more. :D

04-24-2011, 03:48 PM	#17
AJAX40 just got real All Pro Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 575	[QUOTE=NY's stepchild;4007867]I support the fans, and would like to see the draft with a rookie cap, and like to see the games on schedule, at a reasonable price. I'd also like the owners and players hug each other, and then apologize to us and to each other. I'd also like world peace, and for everyone to have a puppy.[/QUOTE] I just got a puppy! You are good people mayne!

04-24-2011, 04:37 PM	#18
johnnysd Founding Member of the Geno Bandwagon Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,142	[QUOTE=Winstonbiggs;4007939]Owners locked out the players. When you fire the first shot don't expect the other side not to shoot back.[/QUOTE] Totally untrue. The first shot was fired by the union by decertifying. That forced the owners to lock out.

04-24-2011, 04:53 PM	#19
Jet Nut Wise madness is better than foolish sanity.... Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Manalapan Posts: 11,097	[QUOTE=freestater;4007873]If they don't want the draft to end, they probably shouldn't have their lawyers arguing for it.[/QUOTE] Except it's a bogus bargaining chip towards a new CBA, he's right, they have no real problem with the draft.

04-24-2011, 04:53 PM	#20
greenwichjetfan All League Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,074	[QUOTE=NY's stepchild;4007867]I'd also like world peace, and for everyone to have a puppy.[/QUOTE] Who are you to say what I should and shouldn't have? What if I don't want a damn puppy??