Leon Penetta to replace Robert Gates, David Petraeus to replace Panetta

Tyler Durden · 04-27-2011, 12:30 PM

[url]http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/sc-dc-obama-panetta-defense-20110427,0,454141.story?track=rss[/url]

[QUOTE]WASHINGTON — President Obama is expected to name CIA Director Leon Panetta as his new Defense secretary and is expected to make David Petraeus, the general now commanding troops in Afghanistan, head of the CIA, according to U.S. officials.[/QUOTE]

Tyler Durden · 04-27-2011, 12:36 PM

Gates should be praised for the job he did cleaning up the mess Rumsfeld left him.

cedk · 04-27-2011, 12:38 PM

[QUOTE=Tyler Durden;4010572]Gates should be praised for the job he did for cleaning up the mess Rumsfeld left him.[/QUOTE]

What did he do different?....
Why is he leaving suddenly?

PlumberKhan · 04-27-2011, 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=cedk;4010575]Why is he leaving suddenly?[/QUOTE]

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Tyler Durden · 04-27-2011, 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=cedk;4010575]What did he do different?....
Why is he leaving suddenly?[/QUOTE]

You don't think the situation in Iraq is different now than it was before he took over as SOD?

He's not leaving suddenly, he said all long he was retiring.

Winstonbiggs · 04-27-2011, 12:54 PM

Hopefully this will signal a shift to getting out of AF and Libya and moving more troops out of the ME, Korea and Europe.

I suspect we will see the President put real defense cuts on the table. It's about time.

Gates wanted to leave at the end of the Bush Administration. Give him credit for staying when asked by the President. He did a good job but we need a new face to wind down the wars and look at our entire defense budget.

cedk · 04-27-2011, 01:07 PM

[QUOTE=Tyler Durden;4010584]You don't think the situation in Iraq is different now than it was before he took over as SOD?

.[/QUOTE]

Of course Iraq is better but the SOD does not have the finale say......

going with the surge finally got things more manageable.....
I guess your right since Rumsfeild was against it I believe

Dancing with stars funny

Jetdawgg · 04-27-2011, 02:16 PM

The way I see this is that we will continue the policy of more war.

Cross breeding of the CIA and Pentagon. This is the real story of the day and we get a birth certificate

MnJetFan · 04-27-2011, 02:40 PM

[QUOTE=Tyler Durden;4010572]Gates should be praised for the job he did cleaning up the mess Rumsfeld left him.[/QUOTE]

More troops in Afghanistan, still in Iraq and tied up in Lybia trying to knock off the leader. Which I thought was illegal. Middle East going up in flames.

Tyler Durden · 04-27-2011, 02:55 PM

[QUOTE=MnJetFan;4010683]More troops in Afghanistan, still in Iraq and tied up in Lybia trying to knock off the leader. Which I thought was illegal. [B]Middle East going up in flames.[/B][/QUOTE]

Are you seriously blaming Gates for the unrest in the middle east? Blaming any one person; Obama, Gates, Bush, anyone for the Middle East's problems is a joke.

The other things you mentioned are policies, most of which Republican have championed or said didn't go far enough. Regardless, SOD doesn't get blamed for policies, the President does. SOD gets judged on how those policies get carried out. And in Iraq, he gets high marks after taking over for mess that was Don Rumsfeld, even if you disagreed with the policy.

Funny, I thought Gates was a man both Republicans and Democrats can come together and praise. Guess not.

Warfish · 04-27-2011, 03:09 PM

Mmmmmm, pancetta and dates........

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palmetto defender · 04-27-2011, 03:12 PM

I think Gates is well liked across the board. An intelligent man with the ability to compromise - unlike Rumsfeld, a real arrogant jerk.
Petraeus might be taking a big pay cut. Don't know what the CIA chief gets but a 4 star with 40 years in plus Ranger, Airborne and other add ons is pulling in $230+. Of course when he retires, he retires at 100% of his salary so that may be it.

Sourceworx · 04-27-2011, 03:16 PM

[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4010581][IMG]http://www.sportsbookgurus.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/dancing-with-the-stars2.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Hahahahahahaha

Tyler Durden · 04-27-2011, 03:23 PM

[QUOTE=palmetto defender;4010710]I think Gates is well liked across the board. An intelligent man with the ability to compromise - unlike Rumsfeld, a real arrogant jerk.
Petraeus might be taking a big pay cut. Don't know what the CIA chief gets but a 4 star with 40 years in plus Ranger, Airborne and other add ons is pulling in $230+. Of course when he retires, he retires at 100% of his salary so that may be it.[/QUOTE]

I also figured Gen. Petraeus would replace Admiral Mullen as chairman of the Joints Chiefs of Staff, who like Gates, has said he was going to retire.

Tyler Durden · 04-27-2011, 03:26 PM

[QUOTE]President Barack Obama will nominate current Central Intelligence Agency Director Leon Panetta to replace Robert Gates as defense secretary when Gates retires this year, and Panetta will be succeeded by Gen. David Petraeus, currently the top U.S. commander of the war in Afghanistan, news outlets are reporting.

The changes are expected to take place this summer, according to the Associated Press.

The White House has not yet confirmed the claims but Obama is expected to discuss personnel changes to his national security team in a press briefing April 28.

Officials told the AP that Marine Corps Gen. John Allen, deputy commander of U.S. Central Command, will replace Petraeus as the top commander in Afghanistan.

The AP report also said Panetta’s experience as the former director of the Office of Management and Budget will suit him well to take on the major budget-cutting in store for the Defense Department.

Further top-level staff shakeups are imminent – Adm. Mike Mullen will step down this year as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Robert Mueller’s term as FBI director will also expire this year. Mullen’s current deputy, Marine Corps Gen. James Cartwright, appears to be his likely successor. No replacement is yet clear for Mueller’s FBI position.[/QUOTE]

Lots of changes.

MnJetFan · 04-27-2011, 03:41 PM

Gates is Sec Of Defense. I would hope he had some input. BTW Iraq was drawing down when Obama came into office why are we still there.

Winstonbiggs · 04-27-2011, 03:56 PM

[QUOTE=MnJetFan;4010731]Gates is Sec Of Defense. I would hope he had some input. BTW Iraq was drawing down when Obama came into office why are we still there.[/QUOTE]

US policy to continue to provide security.

We are suppossed to leave dec 31 of this year but our policy seems to be to push Iraq's government to extend our invitation to continue providing security past the out date.

piney · 04-27-2011, 05:22 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;4010708]Mmmmmm, pancetta and dates........

[IMG]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQG6bCl3hkAi3GyQIvgpc6gpPhKYfkelzB3RL4q87lggEaXdrhl[/IMG][/QUOTE]

that sounds like an awful combination!

JetsFan2012 · 04-27-2011, 07:40 PM

[QUOTE=Jetdawgg;4010660]The way I see this is that we will continue the policy of more war.

Cross breeding of the CIA and Pentagon. This is the real story of the day and we get a birth certificate[/QUOTE]

+1

Glad to see Panetta out of the CIA, sad to see him in DOD.

Jetdawgg · 04-27-2011, 10:20 PM

You can see that we are going to have a more nimble fighting force going forward.

No more of these big war fighting machines. Small light arms with plenty of firepower

As for the CIA, they will be militarized. This can create a lot of redundancies, which will equate to cut backs

04-27-2011, 12:30 PM	#1
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	Leon Penetta to replace Robert Gates, David Petraeus to replace Panetta [url]http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/sc-dc-obama-panetta-defense-20110427,0,454141.story?track=rss[/url] [QUOTE]WASHINGTON — President Obama is expected to name CIA Director Leon Panetta as his new Defense secretary and is expected to make David Petraeus, the general now commanding troops in Afghanistan, head of the CIA, according to U.S. officials.[/QUOTE]

04-27-2011, 12:36 PM	#2
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	Gates should be praised for the job he did cleaning up the mess Rumsfeld left him. Last edited by Tyler Durden; 04-27-2011 at 12:48 PM.

04-27-2011, 02:55 PM	#10
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	[QUOTE=MnJetFan;4010683]More troops in Afghanistan, still in Iraq and tied up in Lybia trying to knock off the leader. Which I thought was illegal. [B]Middle East going up in flames.[/B][/QUOTE] Are you seriously blaming Gates for the unrest in the middle east? Blaming any one person; Obama, Gates, Bush, anyone for the Middle East's problems is a joke. The other things you mentioned are policies, most of which Republican have championed or said didn't go far enough. Regardless, SOD doesn't get blamed for policies, the President does. SOD gets judged on how those policies get carried out. And in Iraq, he gets high marks after taking over for mess that was Don Rumsfeld, even if you disagreed with the policy. Funny, I thought Gates was a man both Republicans and Democrats can come together and praise. Guess not. Last edited by Tyler Durden; 04-27-2011 at 02:58 PM.

04-27-2011, 12:38 PM	#3
cedk Practice Squad Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 462	[QUOTE=Tyler Durden;4010572]Gates should be praised for the job he did for cleaning up the mess Rumsfeld left him.[/QUOTE] What did he do different?.... Why is he leaving suddenly?

04-27-2011, 12:44 PM	#4
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,013	[QUOTE=cedk;4010575]Why is he leaving suddenly?[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://www.sportsbookgurus.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/dancing-with-the-stars2.jpg[/IMG]

04-27-2011, 12:54 PM	#6
Winstonbiggs Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,923	Hopefully this will signal a shift to getting out of AF and Libya and moving more troops out of the ME, Korea and Europe. I suspect we will see the President put real defense cuts on the table. It's about time. Gates wanted to leave at the end of the Bush Administration. Give him credit for staying when asked by the President. He did a good job but we need a new face to wind down the wars and look at our entire defense budget.

04-27-2011, 01:07 PM	#7
cedk Practice Squad Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 462	[QUOTE=Tyler Durden;4010584]You don't think the situation in Iraq is different now than it was before he took over as SOD? .[/QUOTE] Of course Iraq is better but the SOD does not have the finale say...... going with the surge finally got things more manageable..... I guess your right since Rumsfeild was against it I believe Dancing with stars funny

04-27-2011, 02:16 PM	#8
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	The way I see this is that we will continue the policy of more war. Cross breeding of the CIA and Pentagon. This is the real story of the day and we get a birth certificate

04-27-2011, 02:40 PM	#9
MnJetFan All League Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,302	[QUOTE=Tyler Durden;4010572]Gates should be praised for the job he did cleaning up the mess Rumsfeld left him.[/QUOTE] More troops in Afghanistan, still in Iraq and tied up in Lybia trying to knock off the leader. Which I thought was illegal. Middle East going up in flames.

04-27-2011, 03:09 PM	#11
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	Mmmmmm, pancetta and dates........ [IMG]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQG6bCl3hkAi3GyQIvgpc6gpPhKYfkelzB3RL4q87lggEaXdrhl[/IMG]

04-27-2011, 03:12 PM	#12
palmetto defender All League Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,645	I think Gates is well liked across the board. An intelligent man with the ability to compromise - unlike Rumsfeld, a real arrogant jerk. Petraeus might be taking a big pay cut. Don't know what the CIA chief gets but a 4 star with 40 years in plus Ranger, Airborne and other add ons is pulling in $230+. Of course when he retires, he retires at 100% of his salary so that may be it.

04-27-2011, 03:16 PM	#13
Sourceworx Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 13,411	[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4010581][IMG]http://www.sportsbookgurus.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/dancing-with-the-stars2.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Hahahahahahaha

04-27-2011, 03:23 PM	#14
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	[QUOTE=palmetto defender;4010710]I think Gates is well liked across the board. An intelligent man with the ability to compromise - unlike Rumsfeld, a real arrogant jerk. Petraeus might be taking a big pay cut. Don't know what the CIA chief gets but a 4 star with 40 years in plus Ranger, Airborne and other add ons is pulling in $230+. Of course when he retires, he retires at 100% of his salary so that may be it.[/QUOTE] I also figured Gen. Petraeus would replace Admiral Mullen as chairman of the Joints Chiefs of Staff, who like Gates, has said he was going to retire.

04-27-2011, 03:26 PM	#15
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	[QUOTE]President Barack Obama will nominate current Central Intelligence Agency Director Leon Panetta to replace Robert Gates as defense secretary when Gates retires this year, and Panetta will be succeeded by Gen. David Petraeus, currently the top U.S. commander of the war in Afghanistan, news outlets are reporting. The changes are expected to take place this summer, according to the Associated Press. The White House has not yet confirmed the claims but Obama is expected to discuss personnel changes to his national security team in a press briefing April 28. Officials told the AP that Marine Corps Gen. John Allen, deputy commander of U.S. Central Command, will replace Petraeus as the top commander in Afghanistan. The AP report also said Panetta’s experience as the former director of the Office of Management and Budget will suit him well to take on the major budget-cutting in store for the Defense Department. Further top-level staff shakeups are imminent – Adm. Mike Mullen will step down this year as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Robert Mueller’s term as FBI director will also expire this year. Mullen’s current deputy, Marine Corps Gen. James Cartwright, appears to be his likely successor. No replacement is yet clear for Mueller’s FBI position.[/QUOTE] Lots of changes.

04-27-2011, 03:41 PM	#16
MnJetFan All League Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,302	Gates is Sec Of Defense. I would hope he had some input. BTW Iraq was drawing down when Obama came into office why are we still there.

04-27-2011, 03:56 PM	#17
Winstonbiggs Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,923	[QUOTE=MnJetFan;4010731]Gates is Sec Of Defense. I would hope he had some input. BTW Iraq was drawing down when Obama came into office why are we still there.[/QUOTE] US policy to continue to provide security. We are suppossed to leave dec 31 of this year but our policy seems to be to push Iraq's government to extend our invitation to continue providing security past the out date.

04-27-2011, 05:22 PM	#18
piney hip deep in dirty diapers All League Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,618	[QUOTE=Warfish;4010708]Mmmmmm, pancetta and dates........ [IMG]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQG6bCl3hkAi3GyQIvgpc6gpPhKYfkelzB3RL4q87lggEaXdrhl[/IMG][/QUOTE] that sounds like an awful combination!

04-27-2011, 07:40 PM	#19
JetsFan2012 Waterboy Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 0	[QUOTE=Jetdawgg;4010660]The way I see this is that we will continue the policy of more war. Cross breeding of the CIA and Pentagon. This is the real story of the day and we get a birth certificate[/QUOTE] +1 Glad to see Panetta out of the CIA, sad to see him in DOD.

04-27-2011, 10:20 PM	#20
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	You can see that we are going to have a more nimble fighting force going forward. No more of these big war fighting machines. Small light arms with plenty of firepower As for the CIA, they will be militarized. This can create a lot of redundancies, which will equate to cut backs