Lets talk Vontaze Burfict... - Page 2

Flaming Mo · 09-10-2011, 04:50 PM

As I said above, it would be perfect to replace the Madbacker with that Maschine...

IRONFAN 40 · 09-28-2011, 06:24 PM

He will be a Jet mark my words..

jetsfansocal · 09-29-2011, 03:20 AM

All I can say is, I played against him in the Southern Cal section championship game in high school, and the dude is a beast!

Wallace Wright · 10-03-2011, 12:40 PM

He's #1 on my Jets big board. I'd move up to get him.

IRONFAN 40 · 10-03-2011, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallace Wright

He's #1 on my Jets big board. I'd move up to get him.

I want him too,but no more giving up draft picks.We need depth.

bitonti · 10-04-2011, 06:00 PM

this isn't burfict but this youtube deserves to be in this thread

Dirtstar · 10-04-2011, 07:42 PM

i'm all in favor of a guy who plays angry and with great intensity.

but what are the chances he passes a steroid test?

Jonathan · 10-16-2011, 03:44 PM

my best friend is the starting RT for the Oregon Ducks and he told me first hand that Burfict has put on a lot of bad weight and has lost a couple steps this season. says hes way overrated. he got a seal on him on the QB's read option that went for a big gain in the 3rd quarter last night.

straight from on an on-field source, Burfict is just another guy.

MERLIN · 10-16-2011, 04:14 PM

HE IS NOT REPALCING MY BART SCOTT
HE WILL REPALCE AC

Untouchable · 10-17-2011, 01:06 AM

People can talk about Burfict's tenacity and attitude all they want.

The bottom line is, the guy is so over-aggressive to the point where he takes himself out of plays and gets called for 2-3 personal foul penalties in seemingly every game. That's been his biggest problem since day one. And he's yet to correct it...at all.

If we're trying to add to our LB corps in round 1 then give me Upshaw, Ingram, or Curry.

bitonti · 10-17-2011, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Untouchable

If we're trying to add to our LB corps in round 1 then give me Upshaw, Ingram, or Curry.

cmon... like Rex couldn't use Burfict?

Kentucky Jet · 10-17-2011, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrebetfan80

this defense could use a little bit of a head case, someone thats going to play with raw emotion and make big time plays. jenkins when healthy was like that.

I agree. We need a Bryan Cox clone! Bart Scott talks a better game then he plays in the toughness department.

FijiJet · 01-11-2012, 05:00 AM

I would take anyone of those guys over Burfict and even Luke Kuechly cerebral assassin over Taze

Flaming Mo · 01-11-2012, 08:19 AM

If Burfict is in top shape when the combine comes around I'm all for picking him. All his other flaws can be corrected by pro coaching and we got strong defensive leadership to guide him aswell...

Bronxville Jets Fan · 01-11-2012, 09:04 AM

I posted this article in another thread, but I'll do so again since it seems even more relevant here:

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stor...age-a-red-flag

Vontaze Burfict's intensity intriguing, but rage a red flag
PUBLISHED 6 days and 21 hours ago
LAST UPDATED 5 days and 21 hours ago
. Russ Lande
Sporting News

Sporting News draft expert Russ Lande analyzes the current draft status of a prominent college player:

Vontaze Burfict, LB, Arizona State

Linebacker Vontaze Burfict is leaving Arizona State to enter the NFL Draft. He will bring baggage that might worry some teams but can be a monster. (AP Photo)
Junior, 6-3, 252 pounds, 4.65 40-yard dash

Burfict announced Tuesday he would leave college for the 2012 NFL Draft. He wrote on his Facebook page: "I will be expanding my talents to the next level."

Before the 2011 season, Sporting News' Matt Hayes profiled Burfict, calling him "toughest, meanest, nastiest player in the college game—the guy opponents fear and officials target, the guy once benched by his own coach because his violent makeup led to too many personal fouls." Read Hayes' article here.

Analysis
Skill set: Burfict has good size and outstanding strength. He makes more than his share of hard hits by bending his knees, snapping his hips and exploding up into opponents. This helps Burfict consistently jolt blockers backward.

He seems to enjoy the violence and always goes for the blow-up hit, which leads to sliding off ball carriers and too often missing tackles for a player with his talent.

Burfict is an instinctive linebacker who reads and reacts to plays fast. He moves easily through traffic and has good speed in pursuit. Burfict’s explosiveness, strength and long arms give him the tools to consistently pressure the quarterback when he blitzes.

Must improve: Burfict must do a better job of taking on blockers with better leverage and use of his hands. He must focus on wrapping up and making tackles and cut down on sloppy misses. Burfict also must keep his emotions under control because he'll get tested by opponents trying to frustrate him and get him to snap.

He's also a liability covering tight ends in man-to-man and struggles to get deep — a requirement for middle linebackers in most 4-3 schemes.

Best fit, scheme: Ideally as an inside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme where he'll deal with fewer blockers than in a 4-3 defense. Burfict's ability to pressure the quarterback better fits a 3-4 since linebackers must be productive blitzing for the scheme to work. His pass-rush skills could also be effective outside in that scheme.

Best fit, team/coaches: Burfict would be an excellent fit for the Kansas City Chiefs as a violent interior force in their 3-4. Not only would he fit in the Chiefs' scheme scheme, but Romeo Crennel could help Burfict overcome issues controlling his emotions — if Crennel remains as head coach.

Projected draft position: Burfict has been rumored to be a late first-round pick. While that is possible, we believe hes most likely will be a second- or third-round pick by a team that has a history of handling players who come into the NFL with baggage.

Current pro he compares to: Brandon Spikes, New England Patriots; Nate Irving; Denver Broncos.

Bronxville Jets Fan · 01-11-2012, 09:07 AM

I've said repeatedly that I'd love to have the Jets pick Burfict, but I'm starting to question it given the recently reported lack of leadership and tension within the Jets locker room. I'm also starting to question whether he would be good value at 16 -- despite being an arguable top 10 talent, his stock seems to slipping and could possibly be picked later in the first round. I still have a hard time seeing Pitt or Baltimore passing on him given their ILB needs, but holy crap would he be a steal in the second round.

09-10-2011, 04:50 PM	#21
Flaming Mo All League Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: St. Peter-Ording (Germany) Posts: 4,638	As I said above, it would be perfect to replace the Madbacker with that Maschine...

09-28-2011, 06:24 PM	#22
IRONFAN 40 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Section 105 all day ,everyday Posts: 5,963	He will be a Jet mark my words..

09-29-2011, 03:20 AM	#23
jetsfansocal Practice Squad Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 311	All I can say is, I played against him in the Southern Cal section championship game in high school, and the dude is a beast!

10-03-2011, 12:40 PM	#24
Wallace Wright Come at the King, You Best Not Miss. All Pro Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,315	He's #1 on my Jets big board. I'd move up to get him.

10-04-2011, 06:00 PM	#26
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	this isn't burfict but this youtube deserves to be in this thread

10-04-2011, 07:42 PM	#27
Dirtstar Snubbed a man just to watch him cry. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 15,773	i'm all in favor of a guy who plays angry and with great intensity. but what are the chances he passes a steroid test?

10-16-2011, 03:44 PM	#28
Jonathan Veteran Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,428	my best friend is the starting RT for the Oregon Ducks and he told me first hand that Burfict has put on a lot of bad weight and has lost a couple steps this season. says hes way overrated. he got a seal on him on the QB's read option that went for a big gain in the 3rd quarter last night. straight from on an on-field source, Burfict is just another guy.

10-16-2011, 04:14 PM	#29
MERLIN DRAGONMASTER WIZARD of ny jets Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: new camelot on planet krynn Posts: 219	HE IS NOT REPALCING MY BART SCOTT HE WILL REPALCE AC

10-17-2011, 01:06 AM	#30
Untouchable Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22,401	People can talk about Burfict's tenacity and attitude all they want. The bottom line is, the guy is so over-aggressive to the point where he takes himself out of plays and gets called for 2-3 personal foul penalties in seemingly every game. That's been his biggest problem since day one. And he's yet to correct it...at all. If we're trying to add to our LB corps in round 1 then give me Upshaw, Ingram, or Curry.

01-11-2012, 05:00 AM	#33
FijiJet waiting for our pass rush thunderbolt All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,433	I would take anyone of those guys over Burfict and even Luke Kuechly cerebral assassin over Taze

01-11-2012, 08:19 AM	#34
Flaming Mo All League Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: St. Peter-Ording (Germany) Posts: 4,638	If Burfict is in top shape when the combine comes around I'm all for picking him. All his other flaws can be corrected by pro coaching and we got strong defensive leadership to guide him aswell...

01-11-2012, 09:04 AM	#35
Bronxville Jets Fan The eternal optimist Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Eastchester, NY Posts: 1,122	I posted this article in another thread, but I'll do so again since it seems even more relevant here: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stor...age-a-red-flag Vontaze Burfict's intensity intriguing, but rage a red flag PUBLISHED 6 days and 21 hours ago LAST UPDATED 5 days and 21 hours ago . Russ Lande Sporting News Sporting News draft expert Russ Lande analyzes the current draft status of a prominent college player: Vontaze Burfict, LB, Arizona State Linebacker Vontaze Burfict is leaving Arizona State to enter the NFL Draft. He will bring baggage that might worry some teams but can be a monster. (AP Photo) Junior, 6-3, 252 pounds, 4.65 40-yard dash Burfict announced Tuesday he would leave college for the 2012 NFL Draft. He wrote on his Facebook page: "I will be expanding my talents to the next level." Before the 2011 season, Sporting News' Matt Hayes profiled Burfict, calling him "toughest, meanest, nastiest player in the college game—the guy opponents fear and officials target, the guy once benched by his own coach because his violent makeup led to too many personal fouls." Read Hayes' article here. Analysis Skill set: Burfict has good size and outstanding strength. He makes more than his share of hard hits by bending his knees, snapping his hips and exploding up into opponents. This helps Burfict consistently jolt blockers backward. He seems to enjoy the violence and always goes for the blow-up hit, which leads to sliding off ball carriers and too often missing tackles for a player with his talent. Burfict is an instinctive linebacker who reads and reacts to plays fast. He moves easily through traffic and has good speed in pursuit. Burfict’s explosiveness, strength and long arms give him the tools to consistently pressure the quarterback when he blitzes. Must improve: Burfict must do a better job of taking on blockers with better leverage and use of his hands. He must focus on wrapping up and making tackles and cut down on sloppy misses. Burfict also must keep his emotions under control because he'll get tested by opponents trying to frustrate him and get him to snap. He's also a liability covering tight ends in man-to-man and struggles to get deep — a requirement for middle linebackers in most 4-3 schemes. Best fit, scheme: Ideally as an inside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme where he'll deal with fewer blockers than in a 4-3 defense. Burfict's ability to pressure the quarterback better fits a 3-4 since linebackers must be productive blitzing for the scheme to work. His pass-rush skills could also be effective outside in that scheme. Best fit, team/coaches: Burfict would be an excellent fit for the Kansas City Chiefs as a violent interior force in their 3-4. Not only would he fit in the Chiefs' scheme scheme, but Romeo Crennel could help Burfict overcome issues controlling his emotions — if Crennel remains as head coach. Projected draft position: Burfict has been rumored to be a late first-round pick. While that is possible, we believe hes most likely will be a second- or third-round pick by a team that has a history of handling players who come into the NFL with baggage. Current pro he compares to: Brandon Spikes, New England Patriots; Nate Irving; Denver Broncos.

01-11-2012, 09:07 AM	#36
Bronxville Jets Fan The eternal optimist Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Eastchester, NY Posts: 1,122	I've said repeatedly that I'd love to have the Jets pick Burfict, but I'm starting to question it given the recently reported lack of leadership and tension within the Jets locker room. I'm also starting to question whether he would be good value at 16 -- despite being an arguable top 10 talent, his stock seems to slipping and could possibly be picked later in the first round. I still have a hard time seeing Pitt or Baltimore passing on him given their ILB needs, but holy crap would he be a steal in the second round.