The Age Of Ron Paul video

Jetdawgg · 06-09-2011, 08:54 PM

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intelligentjetsfan · 06-09-2011, 09:04 PM

I would vote for him in a heartbeat but we both know he will never be allowed to win the party's nomination. He is one of the few politicians running for president that is not an absolute hypocrite when it comes to tax and spending issues.

Jetdawgg · 06-09-2011, 09:13 PM

Ron Paul is the only republican in the race for POTUS

JetPotato · 06-09-2011, 10:23 PM

[QUOTE=Jetdawgg;4045033]Ron Paul is the only republican in the race for POTUS[/QUOTE]

If the right would embrace him and give him the nomination and then support him in the general, he would win. He would absolutely dominated the middle and steal enough votes from the lefties that feel betrayed by O's failed promises.

I mean why not? They've tried their guys and they were shellacked by a community organizer from Chicago. Time to shift strategy. But they won't. They're old, cranky, stubborn and hopefully dying off soon.

Jungle Shift Jet · 06-09-2011, 10:48 PM

No one's older and crankier than Ronpaulstiltskin

I know kids these days are into GILFs but this is ridiculous...

JetPotato · 06-09-2011, 10:58 PM

[QUOTE=Jungle Shift Jet;4045085]No one's older and crankier than Ronpaulstiltskin

I know kids these days are into GILFs but this is ridiculous...[/QUOTE]

LOL. We need someone young and fresh like your boy John McCain.:rolleyes:

King Koopa · 06-10-2011, 02:34 AM

A more charismatic and younger Ron Paul with the same views would be close to an ideal president in the eyes of most Americans.....Problem is his views don't go with the traditional thinking of hard line Republicans.

What the majority of people in America really want is a Conservative spending-wise who also realizes that it is 2011 social-issue wise.....Problem is for the most part you have to pick your poison when it comes to choosing Republican or Democrat.....Is there a solution for this at all?

freestater · 06-10-2011, 06:49 AM

It's so funny to watch the old neo-cons disparage policies like sound currency, fiscal restraint, and limited government. Ron Paul serves no greater purpose than exposing all the socialists-in-hawk's-clothing that like to pretend that they are conservatives.

FF2® · 06-10-2011, 09:35 AM

[QUOTE=JetPotato;4045067]If the right would embrace him and give him the nomination and then support him in the general, he would win. He would absolutely dominated the middle and steal enough votes from the lefties that feel betrayed by O's failed promises.

[B]I mean why not? [/B]They've tried their guys and they were shellacked by a community organizer from Chicago. Time to shift strategy. But they won't. They're old, cranky, stubborn and hopefully dying off soon.[/QUOTE]

There's the million dollar question.

JetPotato · 06-10-2011, 09:53 AM

[QUOTE=FF2®;4045288]There's the million dollar question.[/QUOTE]

It's not really a difficult one to answer. It's because of fear.

Fears based on total ignorance. Like the fear that if Alex and Kyle from San Francisco are allowed to marry, it will somehow cheapen and affect the marriage of Mike and Sally in New Jersey.

Or insane fears with no scientific basis about addiction and society crumbling if we let people smoke a joint (making these decisions from our ivory towers while sipping whiskey). Nevermind the economic benefits, reduced crime and increased quality of life it would offer. Baseless fear is far more powerful than logic.

Or fears that the entire world hates us simply because we're better than them. So we better invade them all! Kill, spend, invade!!!! Sacrifice our children!!! Kill, kill, kill!!!! (and then blame our massive deficit on a radio station)

Trades · 06-10-2011, 10:06 AM

[QUOTE=JetPotato;4045298]It's not really a difficult one to answer. It's because of fear.

Fears based on total ignorance. Like the fear that if Alex and Kyle from San Francisco are allowed to marry, it will somehow cheapen and affect the marriage of Mike and Sally in New Jersey.
[/QUOTE]

Mike and Sally have been growing apart for a long time anyway.

Can anyone honestly say that marraige is strong today anyway? People are people and nothing will change whether gays can get married or not. It amazes me that anyone can make legislating against this a priority. Maybe we should look at the divorce laws as opposed to the marriage laws. At this point it is so easy to get divorced. I think that is what has cheapened marraige. From my experience most people are just too selfish to comprimise to keep their families together anymore.

FF2® · 06-10-2011, 10:07 AM

[QUOTE=JetPotato;4045298]It's not really a difficult one to answer. It's because of fear.

Fears based on total ignorance. Like the fear that if Alex and Kyle from San Francisco are allowed to marry, it will somehow cheapen and affect the marriage of Mike and Sally in New Jersey.

Or insane fears with no scientific basis about addiction and society crumbling if we let people smoke a joint (making these decisions from our ivory towers while sipping whiskey). Nevermind the economic benefits, reduced crime and increased quality of life it would offer. Baseless fear is far more powerful than logic.

Or fears that the entire world hates us simply because we're better than them. So we better invade them all! Kill, spend, invade!!!! Sacrifice our children!!! Kill, kill, kill!!!! (and then blame our massive deficit on a radio station)[/QUOTE]

When I was young I voted Democratic (mostly) simply based on the social issues. I didn't give a **** about economics or foreign policy or ANYTHING.

Now that I'm and old fart, with a little more understanding, I would embrace someone who presented them selves as a social liberal, fiscal conservative.

Will we EVER see anyone like that? Why is it impossible? I guess because they would never get the nod from either party.

Trades · 06-10-2011, 10:14 AM

[QUOTE=FF2®;4045312]When I was young I voted Democratic (mostly) simply based on the social issues. I didn't give a **** about economics or foreign policy or ANYTHING.

Now that I'm and old fart, with a little more understanding, I would embrace someone who presented them selves as a social liberal, fiscal conservative.

Will we EVER see anyone like that? Why is it impossible? I guess because they would never get the nod from either party.[/QUOTE]

I think Ron Paul needs a dynamic campaign manager. Someone who can make sure he gets his message out in a media friendly modern way to combat the idea that he is old. Someone from outside of politics, whether it be a movie director, TV guy, ad guy, I have no idea but he needs a team that will get him in front of the whole country rather than just the republican base. His message is great. He is a brilliant, likeable man. He is probably the best chance our country has today to get out of the recession but unless he gets his message out clearly and unfiltered he won't have a shot against the Obama campaign machine.

JetPotato · 06-10-2011, 10:28 AM

[QUOTE=Trades;4045310]Mike and Sally have been growing apart for a long time anyway.

Can anyone honestly say that marraige is strong today anyway? People are people and nothing will change whether gays can get married or not. It amazes me that anyone can make legislating against this a priority. Maybe we should look at the divorce laws as opposed to the marriage laws. At this point it is so easy to get divorced. I think that is what has cheapened marraige. From my experience most people are just too selfish to comprimise to keep their families together anymore.[/QUOTE]

Why bother when you can blame your marital problems on people you've never met before?

This issue is the single biggest hypocrisy of the right. Conservatives stand primarily on restoring and preserving the grounds on which this nation was built. It was founded on principals of personal liberty and religious freedom. Yet somewhere along the way, we've totally abandonded that. We now accept judging other human beings based on one religion's belief. We cry that government exists primarily to protect the rights of its citizens. But what right of anyones is being violated if two women decide to shack up?

I, for one, [I]do[/I] oppose gay marriage. But I also oppose straight marriage. Marriage, plain and simple, is a [I]religious[/I] institution. The government has no business in marriage or vice versa. If your church opposes gay marriage, fine, that is their perogotive. No one is forcing your church to allow it. Get married there, that's wonderful for you and [I]your[/I] choices. But don't tell anyone else they can't do the same at their forum of choosing.

If the states want to recognize civil unions, fine. Civil unions for ALL.

Trades · 06-10-2011, 10:36 AM

[QUOTE=JetPotato;4045331]Why bother when you can blame your marital problems on people you've never met before?

This issue is the single biggest hypocrisy of the right. Conservatives stand primarily on restoring and preserving the grounds on which this nation was built. It was founded on principals of personal liberty and religious freedom. Yet somewhere along the way, we've totally abandonded that. We now accept judging other human beings based on one religion's belief. We cry that government exists primarily to protect the rights of its citizens. But what right of anyones is being violated if two women decide to shack up?

I, for one, [I]do[/I] oppose gay marriage. But I also oppose straight marriage. Marriage, plain and simple, is a [I]religious[/I] institution. The government has no business in marriage or vice versa. If your church opposes gay marriage, fine, that is their perogotive. No one is forcing your church to allow it. Get married there, that's wonderful for you and [I]your[/I] choices. But don't tell anyone else they can't do the same at their forum of choosing.

If the states want to recognize civil unions, fine. Civil unions for ALL.[/QUOTE]

You know now that I think of it my marriage started to fall apart when we met the lesbian couple in town. Now they are still together and I am getting divorced. Might just be a coincidence but who knows? Can I sue them for destroying my marraige?

JetPotato · 06-10-2011, 10:42 AM

[QUOTE=Trades;4045343]You know now that I think of it my marriage started to fall apart when we met the lesbian couple in town. Now they are still together and I am getting divorced. Might just be a coincidence but who knows? Can I sue them for destroying my marraige?[/QUOTE]

It's clearly their fault. What country do they each descend from? We probably should also invade those places, since we know they have the ability to produce degenerate marriage destroyers.

Trades · 06-10-2011, 10:58 AM

[QUOTE=JetPotato;4045351]It's clearly their fault. What country do they each descend from? We probably should also invade those places, since we know they have the ability to produce degenerate marriage destroyers.[/QUOTE]

Good idea! They are American but I think they moved from the next town over so we can at least invade that town right? I will bring it up at the next town council meeting after I get off the phone with my lawyer.

Jetdawgg · 06-10-2011, 11:03 AM

The people running against Ron Paul are neo cons, not republicans. Funny how a great deal of the things that he talked about even in the last election cycle are now what people are talking about.

Freedom has no age limit

brady's a catcher · 06-10-2011, 11:14 AM

Huge Dr. Paul supporter. He may not a very realistic shot, but he's got my vote.

Winstonbiggs · 06-10-2011, 11:22 AM

So not extending the debt limit or having an actual budget that deals with the reality of an ageing and growing population and the reality that we were attacked is a plan?

No thanks!

06-09-2011, 08:54 PM	#1
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06-09-2011, 09:04 PM	#2
intelligentjetsfan All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,307	I would vote for him in a heartbeat but we both know he will never be allowed to win the party's nomination. He is one of the few politicians running for president that is not an absolute hypocrite when it comes to tax and spending issues. Last edited by intelligentjetsfan; 06-09-2011 at 09:39 PM.

06-09-2011, 09:13 PM	#3
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	Ron Paul is the only republican in the race for POTUS

06-09-2011, 10:23 PM	#4
JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,117	[QUOTE=Jetdawgg;4045033]Ron Paul is the only republican in the race for POTUS[/QUOTE] If the right would embrace him and give him the nomination and then support him in the general, he would win. He would absolutely dominated the middle and steal enough votes from the lefties that feel betrayed by O's failed promises. I mean why not? They've tried their guys and they were shellacked by a community organizer from Chicago. Time to shift strategy. But they won't. They're old, cranky, stubborn and hopefully dying off soon.

06-09-2011, 10:48 PM	#5
Jungle Shift Jet Occasionally stoops to uploading hotties pix to boost his postcount All Pro Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alive with a superior intellect in an erudite world of fine tastes that you will never, EVER acquire Posts: 5,033	No one's older and crankier than Ronpaulstiltskin I know kids these days are into GILFs but this is ridiculous...

06-09-2011, 10:58 PM	#6
JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,117	[QUOTE=Jungle Shift Jet;4045085]No one's older and crankier than Ronpaulstiltskin I know kids these days are into GILFs but this is ridiculous...[/QUOTE] LOL. We need someone young and fresh like your boy John McCain.:rolleyes:

06-10-2011, 02:34 AM	#7
King Koopa All League Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,380	A more charismatic and younger Ron Paul with the same views would be close to an ideal president in the eyes of most Americans.....Problem is his views don't go with the traditional thinking of hard line Republicans. What the majority of people in America really want is a Conservative spending-wise who also realizes that it is 2011 social-issue wise.....Problem is for the most part you have to pick your poison when it comes to choosing Republican or Democrat.....Is there a solution for this at all?

06-10-2011, 06:49 AM	#8
freestater we gonna lay around the shanty, Mama, and put a good buzz on Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 13,507	It's so funny to watch the old neo-cons disparage policies like sound currency, fiscal restraint, and limited government. Ron Paul serves no greater purpose than exposing all the socialists-in-hawk's-clothing that like to pretend that they are conservatives.

06-10-2011, 09:35 AM	#9
FF2® Believes Sloppy Guy was involved JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 46,115	[QUOTE=JetPotato;4045067]If the right would embrace him and give him the nomination and then support him in the general, he would win. He would absolutely dominated the middle and steal enough votes from the lefties that feel betrayed by O's failed promises. [B]I mean why not? [/B]They've tried their guys and they were shellacked by a community organizer from Chicago. Time to shift strategy. But they won't. They're old, cranky, stubborn and hopefully dying off soon.[/QUOTE] There's the million dollar question.

06-10-2011, 09:53 AM	#10
JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,117	[QUOTE=FF2®;4045288]There's the million dollar question.[/QUOTE] It's not really a difficult one to answer. It's because of fear. Fears based on total ignorance. Like the fear that if Alex and Kyle from San Francisco are allowed to marry, it will somehow cheapen and affect the marriage of Mike and Sally in New Jersey. Or insane fears with no scientific basis about addiction and society crumbling if we let people smoke a joint (making these decisions from our ivory towers while sipping whiskey). Nevermind the economic benefits, reduced crime and increased quality of life it would offer. Baseless fear is far more powerful than logic. Or fears that the entire world hates us simply because we're better than them. So we better invade them all! Kill, spend, invade!!!! Sacrifice our children!!! Kill, kill, kill!!!! (and then blame our massive deficit on a radio station)

06-10-2011, 10:06 AM	#11
Trades Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,550	[QUOTE=JetPotato;4045298]It's not really a difficult one to answer. It's because of fear. Fears based on total ignorance. Like the fear that if Alex and Kyle from San Francisco are allowed to marry, it will somehow cheapen and affect the marriage of Mike and Sally in New Jersey. [/QUOTE] Mike and Sally have been growing apart for a long time anyway. Can anyone honestly say that marraige is strong today anyway? People are people and nothing will change whether gays can get married or not. It amazes me that anyone can make legislating against this a priority. Maybe we should look at the divorce laws as opposed to the marriage laws. At this point it is so easy to get divorced. I think that is what has cheapened marraige. From my experience most people are just too selfish to comprimise to keep their families together anymore.

06-10-2011, 10:07 AM	#12
FF2® Believes Sloppy Guy was involved JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 46,115	[QUOTE=JetPotato;4045298]It's not really a difficult one to answer. It's because of fear. Fears based on total ignorance. Like the fear that if Alex and Kyle from San Francisco are allowed to marry, it will somehow cheapen and affect the marriage of Mike and Sally in New Jersey. Or insane fears with no scientific basis about addiction and society crumbling if we let people smoke a joint (making these decisions from our ivory towers while sipping whiskey). Nevermind the economic benefits, reduced crime and increased quality of life it would offer. Baseless fear is far more powerful than logic. Or fears that the entire world hates us simply because we're better than them. So we better invade them all! Kill, spend, invade!!!! Sacrifice our children!!! Kill, kill, kill!!!! (and then blame our massive deficit on a radio station)[/QUOTE] When I was young I voted Democratic (mostly) simply based on the social issues. I didn't give a **** about economics or foreign policy or ANYTHING. Now that I'm and old fart, with a little more understanding, I would embrace someone who presented them selves as a social liberal, fiscal conservative. Will we EVER see anyone like that? Why is it impossible? I guess because they would never get the nod from either party.

06-10-2011, 10:14 AM	#13
Trades Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,550	[QUOTE=FF2®;4045312]When I was young I voted Democratic (mostly) simply based on the social issues. I didn't give a **** about economics or foreign policy or ANYTHING. Now that I'm and old fart, with a little more understanding, I would embrace someone who presented them selves as a social liberal, fiscal conservative. Will we EVER see anyone like that? Why is it impossible? I guess because they would never get the nod from either party.[/QUOTE] I think Ron Paul needs a dynamic campaign manager. Someone who can make sure he gets his message out in a media friendly modern way to combat the idea that he is old. Someone from outside of politics, whether it be a movie director, TV guy, ad guy, I have no idea but he needs a team that will get him in front of the whole country rather than just the republican base. His message is great. He is a brilliant, likeable man. He is probably the best chance our country has today to get out of the recession but unless he gets his message out clearly and unfiltered he won't have a shot against the Obama campaign machine.

06-10-2011, 10:28 AM	#14
JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,117	[QUOTE=Trades;4045310]Mike and Sally have been growing apart for a long time anyway. Can anyone honestly say that marraige is strong today anyway? People are people and nothing will change whether gays can get married or not. It amazes me that anyone can make legislating against this a priority. Maybe we should look at the divorce laws as opposed to the marriage laws. At this point it is so easy to get divorced. I think that is what has cheapened marraige. From my experience most people are just too selfish to comprimise to keep their families together anymore.[/QUOTE] Why bother when you can blame your marital problems on people you've never met before? This issue is the single biggest hypocrisy of the right. Conservatives stand primarily on restoring and preserving the grounds on which this nation was built. It was founded on principals of personal liberty and religious freedom. Yet somewhere along the way, we've totally abandonded that. We now accept judging other human beings based on one religion's belief. We cry that government exists primarily to protect the rights of its citizens. But what right of anyones is being violated if two women decide to shack up? I, for one, [I]do[/I] oppose gay marriage. But I also oppose straight marriage. Marriage, plain and simple, is a [I]religious[/I] institution. The government has no business in marriage or vice versa. If your church opposes gay marriage, fine, that is their perogotive. No one is forcing your church to allow it. Get married there, that's wonderful for you and [I]your[/I] choices. But don't tell anyone else they can't do the same at their forum of choosing. If the states want to recognize civil unions, fine. Civil unions for ALL.

06-10-2011, 10:36 AM	#15
Trades Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,550	[QUOTE=JetPotato;4045331]Why bother when you can blame your marital problems on people you've never met before? This issue is the single biggest hypocrisy of the right. Conservatives stand primarily on restoring and preserving the grounds on which this nation was built. It was founded on principals of personal liberty and religious freedom. Yet somewhere along the way, we've totally abandonded that. We now accept judging other human beings based on one religion's belief. We cry that government exists primarily to protect the rights of its citizens. But what right of anyones is being violated if two women decide to shack up? I, for one, [I]do[/I] oppose gay marriage. But I also oppose straight marriage. Marriage, plain and simple, is a [I]religious[/I] institution. The government has no business in marriage or vice versa. If your church opposes gay marriage, fine, that is their perogotive. No one is forcing your church to allow it. Get married there, that's wonderful for you and [I]your[/I] choices. But don't tell anyone else they can't do the same at their forum of choosing. If the states want to recognize civil unions, fine. Civil unions for ALL.[/QUOTE] You know now that I think of it my marriage started to fall apart when we met the lesbian couple in town. Now they are still together and I am getting divorced. Might just be a coincidence but who knows? Can I sue them for destroying my marraige?

06-10-2011, 10:42 AM	#16
JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,117	[QUOTE=Trades;4045343]You know now that I think of it my marriage started to fall apart when we met the lesbian couple in town. Now they are still together and I am getting divorced. Might just be a coincidence but who knows? Can I sue them for destroying my marraige?[/QUOTE] It's clearly their fault. What country do they each descend from? We probably should also invade those places, since we know they have the ability to produce degenerate marriage destroyers.

06-10-2011, 10:58 AM	#17
Trades Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,550	[QUOTE=JetPotato;4045351]It's clearly their fault. What country do they each descend from? We probably should also invade those places, since we know they have the ability to produce degenerate marriage destroyers.[/QUOTE] Good idea! They are American but I think they moved from the next town over so we can at least invade that town right? I will bring it up at the next town council meeting after I get off the phone with my lawyer.

06-10-2011, 11:03 AM	#18
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	The people running against Ron Paul are neo cons, not republicans. Funny how a great deal of the things that he talked about even in the last election cycle are now what people are talking about. Freedom has no age limit

06-10-2011, 11:14 AM	#19
brady's a catcher R.I.P Goofy Maloof All Pro Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 6,683	Huge Dr. Paul supporter. He may not a very realistic shot, but he's got my vote.

06-10-2011, 11:22 AM	#20
Winstonbiggs Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,909	So not extending the debt limit or having an actual budget that deals with the reality of an ageing and growing population and the reality that we were attacked is a plan? No thanks!