Logan Mankins highest paid interior lineman in NFL

jetstream23 · 08-12-2011, 01:09 AM

$51M with $30M guaranteed for an OG? Averages $8.5M per year according to sources making him highest paid interior lineman in the NFL.

Isnt that like LT or C type money?

Dimitri_0515 · 08-12-2011, 01:12 AM

Good for Mankins. Too bad for the Pats.

Dalai Lama · 08-12-2011, 01:25 AM

[QUOTE=Dimitri_0515;4100622]Good for Mankins. Too bad for the Pats.[/QUOTE]

How is it too bad for the Pats? He's the best guard in the NFL, now locked in for several years. Too bad for New Jersey is more like it. ;)

gunnails · 08-12-2011, 01:35 AM

[QUOTE=Dalai Lama;4100626]How is it too bad for the Pats? He's the best guard in the NFL, now locked in for several years. Too bad for New Jersey is more like it. ;)[/QUOTE]

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It's bad in the sense, that this is as an abnormally large contract for the position Mankins plays.

Mankins is a top guard no doubt, but the Pats should expect to be questioned over this move. Irregardless of what Mankins has said about Kraft.

Dimitri_0515 · 08-12-2011, 01:35 AM

[QUOTE=Dalai Lama;4100626]How is it too bad for the Pats? He's the best guard in the NFL, now locked in for several years. Too bad for New Jersey is more like it. ;)[/QUOTE]

When was the last time they paid anyone like that besides Brady? And he's not the best guard in the league. Josh Sitton, Carl Nicks and Jahri Evans are all better than mankins.

FijiJet · 08-12-2011, 02:10 AM

Hell I'd venture Brandon Moore is better than that overpaid guy. Runblocking is better and more cost effective

Mikey Z 6 · 08-12-2011, 04:15 AM

didnt mangold do a 7yr 55mill

sg3 · 08-12-2011, 04:30 AM

not even in the top 5 of NFL Guards

and NO NFL Guard is in the top 8 of NFL Offensive Lineman

because he is a Cheatriot, he is TOP 5 in NFL "overrated by the media" though

CleatMarks · 08-12-2011, 09:02 AM

[QUOTE=sg3;4100647]not even in the top 5 of NFL Guards

and NO NFL Guard is in the top 8 of NFL Offensive Lineman

because he is a Cheatriot, he is TOP 5 in NFL "overrated by the media" though[/QUOTE]

I've got to give you credit, I'd probably be too embarrassed to keep coming back to the board if I made statements like this constantly.:eek:

Dirtstar · 08-12-2011, 09:38 AM

the Pasts* had an 8-1 record without Mankins last year.

it's not like they dramatically improved after he came back, and Mankins certainly didn't help them win in the playoffs.

great job by the Pasts* making a non-essential player the highest paid in the league :zzz: :zzz:

augustiniak · 08-12-2011, 09:44 AM

[QUOTE=Dirtstar;4100738]the Pasts* had an 8-1 record without Mankins last year.

it's not like they dramatically improved after he came back, and Mankins certainly didn't help them win in the playoffs.

great job by the Pasts* making a non-essential player the highest paid in the league :zzz: :zzz:[/QUOTE]

just goes to show you how much they fear losing their most experienced brady protector.

njherdfan · 08-12-2011, 09:51 AM

There are plenty of things to kill the Pats over, but I really don't think this is one of them. Mankins is an awesome, awesome player and there was never really a doubt he'd end up as the highest paid player at his position. He's as essential to that OL as Mangold is to the Jets.

OCCH · 08-12-2011, 09:53 AM

[QUOTE=njherdfan;4100754]There are plenty of things to kill the Pats over, but I really don't think this is one of them. Mankins is an awesome, awesome player and there was never really a doubt he'd end up as the highest paid player at his position. He's as essential to that OL as Mangold is to the Jets.[/QUOTE]

Which is why they went 8-1 without him, and couldn't win a playoff game with him?

No one is denying he's good -- and be honest, what else would you expect a Jets site to do but TRASH a NE move? But in reality it IS more $$ than he probably deserved (relative to other OGs) . . .

Bearded_Achilles · 08-12-2011, 09:56 AM

yey who cares about Logan Gaykins

GronkWelkhead · 08-12-2011, 09:56 AM

[QUOTE=njherdfan;4100754]There are plenty of things to kill the Pats over, but I really don't think this is one of them. Mankins is an awesome, awesome player and there was never really a doubt he'd end up as the highest paid player at his position. He's as essential to that OL as Mangold is to the Jets.[/QUOTE]

THIS^

He's the anchor on that OL and so he got paid. Brady is by far their #1 asset so they went all out to protect him. I fail to see how that's a stretch. They have the cap space, esp. after getting Fat Albert and 85 to take a team friendly haircut. Wilfork anchors the DL and he's also paid at the top of his position, so it's not unprecedented.

BFfan · 08-12-2011, 10:07 AM

[QUOTE=gunnails;4100629]================================================

It's bad in the sense, that this is as an abnormally large contract for the position Mankins plays.

Mankins is a top guard no doubt, but the Pats should expect to be questioned over this move. Irregardless of what Mankins has said about Kraft.[/QUOTE]

Abnormally large? I don't have the numbers in front of me but is Mankins' deal really all that far off from the contracts the Saints gave Evans and the Jets gave Mangold?

bitonti · 08-12-2011, 10:11 AM

i dont think it's a mistake to overpay interior linemen, if the player is special. that team without Mankins is drastically different.

Rob0729 · 08-12-2011, 10:29 AM

Did the Pats overpay for Mankins? Maybe. But you guys didn't seem to care when the Jets clearly overpaid for Holmes giving him $10 million a year and the highest guarantee money for any WR in the NFL eventhough he clearly isn't a top 3 WR in the league. Mankins is clearly a top 3 guard in the NFL, possibly #1.

Yes, the Pats were 6-1 (not 8-1 since he played 9 games in the regular season last year) with out him, but the offense exploded after he returned. It was a better offense with him. It was still a great offense without him, but an even better offense with him.

crasherino · 08-12-2011, 10:37 AM

If the Pats wanted him for the long term (and the reality is that they most certainly did) then they were going to have to shell out big bucks. He was not coming back for any type of discount and his market value was very very high.

Was it this high? I dunno, but it was close enough not to make much of a difference. If he stays healthy and performs, it was a good move by the Pats.

This would have been taken care of last year if ego and emotion didn't get in the way.

crasherino · 08-12-2011, 10:41 AM

[QUOTE=Rob0729;4100818]Did the Pats overpay for Mankins? Maybe. But you guys didn't seem to care when the Jets clearly overpaid for Holmes giving him $10 million a year and the highest guarantee money for any WR in the NFL eventhough he clearly isn't a top 3 WR in the league. Mankins is clearly a top 3 guard in the NFL, possibly #1.

Yes, the Pats were 6-1 (not 8-1 since he played 9 games in the regular season last year) with out him, but the offense exploded after he returned. It was a better offense with him. It was still a great offense without him, but an even better offense with him.[/QUOTE]

Difference is is that the Pats had Mankins under their control so they did not NEED to give him a long term deal. The Jets had to come up with an oil package for Holmes or he'd go elsewhere. So, did they overpay? Sure, relative to what other WRs currently get, sure. But, he was the top WR on the Market, so if they wanted to get him, they needed to pay him what they paid.

But once you are looking at the big dollars, does it really matter? The guaranteed money all comes in the first 3 years. Holmes is going to collect that money regardless, as is Mankins (absent something catostrophic).

08-12-2011, 01:09 AM	#1
jetstream23 recovering from turf toe Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ (New Jets Stadium Section 246) Posts: 31,611	Logan Mankins highest paid interior lineman in NFL $51M with $30M guaranteed for an OG? Averages $8.5M per year according to sources making him highest paid interior lineman in the NFL. Isnt that like LT or C type money?

08-12-2011, 01:12 AM	#2
Dimitri_0515 Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,182	Good for Mankins. Too bad for the Pats.

08-12-2011, 01:25 AM	#3
Dalai Lama Living In the Moment Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 250	[QUOTE=Dimitri_0515;4100622]Good for Mankins. Too bad for the Pats.[/QUOTE] How is it too bad for the Pats? He's the best guard in the NFL, now locked in for several years. Too bad for New Jersey is more like it. ;)

08-12-2011, 01:35 AM	#4
gunnails All League Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,523	[QUOTE=Dalai Lama;4100626]How is it too bad for the Pats? He's the best guard in the NFL, now locked in for several years. Too bad for New Jersey is more like it. ;)[/QUOTE] ================================================ It's bad in the sense, that this is as an abnormally large contract for the position Mankins plays. Mankins is a top guard no doubt, but the Pats should expect to be questioned over this move. Irregardless of what Mankins has said about Kraft.

08-12-2011, 02:10 AM	#6
FijiJet waiting for our pass rush thunderbolt All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,439	Hell I'd venture Brandon Moore is better than that overpaid guy. Runblocking is better and more cost effective

08-12-2011, 04:15 AM	#7
Mikey Z 6 oOoOoOo All Pro Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Posts: 5,536	didnt mangold do a 7yr 55mill

08-12-2011, 04:30 AM	#8
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,408	not even in the top 5 of NFL Guards and NO NFL Guard is in the top 8 of NFL Offensive Lineman because he is a Cheatriot, he is TOP 5 in NFL "overrated by the media" though

08-12-2011, 09:02 AM	#9
CleatMarks All League Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,609	[QUOTE=sg3;4100647]not even in the top 5 of NFL Guards and NO NFL Guard is in the top 8 of NFL Offensive Lineman because he is a Cheatriot, he is TOP 5 in NFL "overrated by the media" though[/QUOTE] I've got to give you credit, I'd probably be too embarrassed to keep coming back to the board if I made statements like this constantly.:eek:

08-12-2011, 09:38 AM	#10
Dirtstar Snubbed a man just to watch him cry. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 15,796	the Pasts* had an 8-1 record without Mankins last year. it's not like they dramatically improved after he came back, and Mankins certainly didn't help them win in the playoffs. great job by the Pasts* making a non-essential player the highest paid in the league :zzz: :zzz:

08-12-2011, 09:44 AM	#11
augustiniak All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 8,124	[QUOTE=Dirtstar;4100738]the Pasts* had an 8-1 record without Mankins last year. it's not like they dramatically improved after he came back, and Mankins certainly didn't help them win in the playoffs. great job by the Pasts* making a non-essential player the highest paid in the league :zzz: :zzz:[/QUOTE] just goes to show you how much they fear losing their most experienced brady protector.

08-12-2011, 09:51 AM	#12
njherdfan Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Clark University, by way of West Orange, NJ Posts: 1,737	There are plenty of things to kill the Pats over, but I really don't think this is one of them. Mankins is an awesome, awesome player and there was never really a doubt he'd end up as the highest paid player at his position. He's as essential to that OL as Mangold is to the Jets.

08-12-2011, 09:53 AM	#13
OCCH glad I have more purpose in life than Jets football . . . Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,416	[QUOTE=njherdfan;4100754]There are plenty of things to kill the Pats over, but I really don't think this is one of them. Mankins is an awesome, awesome player and there was never really a doubt he'd end up as the highest paid player at his position. He's as essential to that OL as Mangold is to the Jets.[/QUOTE] Which is why they went 8-1 without him, and couldn't win a playoff game with him? No one is denying he's good -- and be honest, what else would you expect a Jets site to do but TRASH a NE move? But in reality it IS more $$ than he probably deserved (relative to other OGs) . . .

08-12-2011, 09:56 AM	#14
Bearded_Achilles wanna get out of my way?? All Pro Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Hades Posts: 2,296	yey who cares about Logan Gaykins

08-12-2011, 09:56 AM	#15
GronkWelkhead Coming Soon to an Ignore List near You! Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,273	[QUOTE=njherdfan;4100754]There are plenty of things to kill the Pats over, but I really don't think this is one of them. Mankins is an awesome, awesome player and there was never really a doubt he'd end up as the highest paid player at his position. He's as essential to that OL as Mangold is to the Jets.[/QUOTE] THIS^ He's the anchor on that OL and so he got paid. Brady is by far their #1 asset so they went all out to protect him. I fail to see how that's a stretch. They have the cap space, esp. after getting Fat Albert and 85 to take a team friendly haircut. Wilfork anchors the DL and he's also paid at the top of his position, so it's not unprecedented.

08-12-2011, 10:07 AM	#16
BFfan Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 231	[QUOTE=gunnails;4100629]================================================ It's bad in the sense, that this is as an abnormally large contract for the position Mankins plays. Mankins is a top guard no doubt, but the Pats should expect to be questioned over this move. Irregardless of what Mankins has said about Kraft.[/QUOTE] Abnormally large? I don't have the numbers in front of me but is Mankins' deal really all that far off from the contracts the Saints gave Evans and the Jets gave Mangold?

08-12-2011, 10:11 AM	#17
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	i dont think it's a mistake to overpay interior linemen, if the player is special. that team without Mankins is drastically different.

08-12-2011, 10:29 AM	#18
Rob0729 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,306	Did the Pats overpay for Mankins? Maybe. But you guys didn't seem to care when the Jets clearly overpaid for Holmes giving him $10 million a year and the highest guarantee money for any WR in the NFL eventhough he clearly isn't a top 3 WR in the league. Mankins is clearly a top 3 guard in the NFL, possibly #1. Yes, the Pats were 6-1 (not 8-1 since he played 9 games in the regular season last year) with out him, but the offense exploded after he returned. It was a better offense with him. It was still a great offense without him, but an even better offense with him.

08-12-2011, 10:37 AM	#19
crasherino Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 16,827	If the Pats wanted him for the long term (and the reality is that they most certainly did) then they were going to have to shell out big bucks. He was not coming back for any type of discount and his market value was very very high. Was it this high? I dunno, but it was close enough not to make much of a difference. If he stays healthy and performs, it was a good move by the Pats. This would have been taken care of last year if ego and emotion didn't get in the way.

08-12-2011, 10:41 AM	#20
crasherino Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 16,827	[QUOTE=Rob0729;4100818]Did the Pats overpay for Mankins? Maybe. But you guys didn't seem to care when the Jets clearly overpaid for Holmes giving him $10 million a year and the highest guarantee money for any WR in the NFL eventhough he clearly isn't a top 3 WR in the league. Mankins is clearly a top 3 guard in the NFL, possibly #1. Yes, the Pats were 6-1 (not 8-1 since he played 9 games in the regular season last year) with out him, but the offense exploded after he returned. It was a better offense with him. It was still a great offense without him, but an even better offense with him.[/QUOTE] Difference is is that the Pats had Mankins under their control so they did not NEED to give him a long term deal. The Jets had to come up with an oil package for Holmes or he'd go elsewhere. So, did they overpay? Sure, relative to what other WRs currently get, sure. But, he was the top WR on the Market, so if they wanted to get him, they needed to pay him what they paid. But once you are looking at the big dollars, does it really matter? The guaranteed money all comes in the first 3 years. Holmes is going to collect that money regardless, as is Mankins (absent something catostrophic).