Weekly Address: Time to Act on the Transportation Bill

Buster · 09-03-2011, 11:19 AM

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AlbanyJet · 09-03-2011, 08:43 PM

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Piper · 09-04-2011, 09:42 AM

He is truly embarrassing.

cr726 · 09-04-2011, 10:41 AM

[QUOTE=Piper;4127668]He is truly embarrassing.[/QUOTE]

You think our roads and bridges are good to go? We have been rotting from the inside out and our country needs roads and bridges and Americans to build them.

PlumberKhan · 09-04-2011, 11:03 AM

[QUOTE=cr726;4127706].... and Americans to build them.[/QUOTE]

Nah. Let's have Guatemalan day laborers from the Home Depot parking lot do it instead. Union members have no skillz, yo...

palmetto defender · 09-04-2011, 11:41 AM

Union jobs. Just what we need- so the mob can get their cut as well as corrupt union bosses. Anyone catch AFL-CIO pres Trumka on the talk show circuit. If there is a better picture of a leg breaker I don't know who it would be.
Roads do need to be fixed. Let's have a combo of union and non union labor.
BTW, unions have been working on the DC beltway for well over 40 years. Good progress leaning on their shovels.

bitonti · 09-04-2011, 01:05 PM

[QUOTE=palmetto defender;4127748]Union jobs. Just what we need- so the mob can get their cut as well as corrupt union bosses. Anyone catch AFL-CIO pres Trumka on the talk show circuit. If there is a better picture of a leg breaker I don't know who it would be.
Roads do need to be fixed. Let's have a combo of union and non union labor.
BTW, unions have been working on the DC beltway for well over 40 years. Good progress leaning on their shovels.[/QUOTE]

Union labor is pricey but it's also high quality. I dont want a bunch of unregulated pure profit seekers, building a bridge that's supposed to last for 100 years. in China they don't have unions and their high speed rail project is a debacle. High quality costs money, that's a lesson of life. Learn it the easy way or learn it the hard way.

Winstonbiggs · 09-04-2011, 04:03 PM

[QUOTE=bitonti;4127845]Union labor is pricey but it's also high quality. I dont want a bunch of unregulated pure profit seekers, building a bridge that's supposed to last for 100 years. in China they don't have unions and their high speed rail project is a debacle. High quality costs money, that's a lesson of life. Learn it the easy way or learn it the hard way.[/QUOTE]

What does regulations and building to code have to do with labor?

They do have Unions in China for the rail construction. They did as crappy a job as the DC Unions that built the transit system that crashed in 09.

What does being a Union member have to do with the quality of your labor and your labors value?

Are you implying that Unions that represent labor are creating the specifications and inspecting the codes on construction project?

Your post is a mess. Regulations and codes have nothing to do with Union or none Union jobs. In many casses Unions have used their clout to pay off substandard work that doesn't meet code. Organized construction Unions have consistently pressed politicians and inspectors to turn their back on codes.

Union members who do a bad job, are disruptive and make costly mistakes are protected by the Union. Nothing wrong with Union workers but Unions are not creating a better trade they are essentially protecting workers rights and collective bargaining.

Frequent Flyer · 09-04-2011, 06:15 PM

[QUOTE=cr726;4127706]You think our roads and bridges are good to go? We have been rotting from the inside out and our country needs roads and bridges and Americans to build them.[/QUOTE]

Obama said that's what The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 was for.

So why are we still "rotting from the inside out". :huh:

PlumberKhan · 09-04-2011, 07:07 PM

[QUOTE=Winstonbiggs;4128092]In many casses Unions have used their clout to pay off substandard work that doesn't meet code...[/QUOTE]

Exactly. That's why the skyscrapers in NYC are inferior to the cinder block sprawl in places like Haiti and the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

Winstonbiggs · 09-05-2011, 12:01 AM

[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4128287]Exactly. That's why the skyscrapers in NYC are inferior to the cinder block sprawl in places like Haiti and the Democratic Republic of the Congo.[/QUOTE]

Machu Picchu, The Great Wall and the Pyramids were built by non union slave labor and are still standing.

Take a look at the road beds in the US that have been laid in the last 5 years.

Stuff is built with a plan not with unsupervised labor.

cr726 · 09-05-2011, 12:28 AM

[QUOTE=Frequent Flyer;4128244]Obama said that's what The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 was for.

So why are we still "rotting from the inside out". :huh:[/QUOTE]

2 years is plenty of time to re-build the USA. :rolleyes:

Winstonbiggs · 09-05-2011, 12:30 AM

[QUOTE=cr726;4128534]2 years is plenty of time to re-build the USA. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Certainly enough time to evolve into a third world country.

PlumberKhan · 09-05-2011, 09:17 AM

[QUOTE=Winstonbiggs;4128524]Machu Picchu, The Great Wall and the Pyramids were built by non union slave labor and are still standing.

Take a look at the road beds in the US that have been laid in the last 5 years.

Stuff is built with a plan not with unsupervised labor.[/QUOTE]

Very true.

But saying that most unions do substandard work and pay politicians to overlook building code violations is pretty weak.

Piper · 09-06-2011, 10:34 AM

[QUOTE=cr726;4127706]You think our roads and bridges are good to go? We have been rotting from the inside out and our country needs roads and bridges and Americans to build them.[/QUOTE]

No, I think it is laughable that Obama would make the case ahead of time that the transportation bill should be approved without scrutiny or debate by implying that the Republicans are evil if they dare question anything in the bill.

Loading these necessary bills with pork is the oldest political game in the book for both sides and is exactly how we ended up in this mess.

Trying to paint the opposition as 'anti-jobs' ahead of time is desperate and pathetic, especially for the POTUS.

MnJetFan · 09-07-2011, 03:23 PM

Stop using gas tax money for bike paths, trains that no one rides. The tax is for roads and ROADS alone. If you want bike paths maybe put a path tax on bikes and the train riders pay the full fair on the trains not the subsidized fair!

09-03-2011, 11:19 AM	#1
Buster not a rocket surgeon All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East of the Jordan, West of the Rock of Gibraltar Posts: 4,267	Weekly Address: Time to Act on the Transportation Bill [URL="

09-04-2011, 04:03 PM	#8
Winstonbiggs Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,940	[QUOTE=bitonti;4127845]Union labor is pricey but it's also high quality. I dont want a bunch of unregulated pure profit seekers, building a bridge that's supposed to last for 100 years. in China they don't have unions and their high speed rail project is a debacle. High quality costs money, that's a lesson of life. Learn it the easy way or learn it the hard way.[/QUOTE] What does regulations and building to code have to do with labor? They do have Unions in China for the rail construction. They did as crappy a job as the DC Unions that built the transit system that crashed in 09. What does being a Union member have to do with the quality of your labor and your labors value? Are you implying that Unions that represent labor are creating the specifications and inspecting the codes on construction project? Your post is a mess. Regulations and codes have nothing to do with Union or none Union jobs. In many casses Unions have used their clout to pay off substandard work that doesn't meet code. Organized construction Unions have consistently pressed politicians and inspectors to turn their back on codes. Union members who do a bad job, are disruptive and make costly mistakes are protected by the Union. Nothing wrong with Union workers but Unions are not creating a better trade they are essentially protecting workers rights and collective bargaining. Last edited by Winstonbiggs; 09-04-2011 at 05:24 PM.

09-05-2011, 09:17 AM	#14
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,029	[QUOTE=Winstonbiggs;4128524]Machu Picchu, The Great Wall and the Pyramids were built by non union slave labor and are still standing. Take a look at the road beds in the US that have been laid in the last 5 years. Stuff is built with a plan not with unsupervised labor.[/QUOTE] Very true. But saying that most unions do substandard work and pay politicians to overlook building code violations is pretty weak. Last edited by PlumberKhan; 09-05-2011 at 09:32 AM.

09-03-2011, 08:43 PM	#2
AlbanyJet All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,635	:deal: :jets17

09-04-2011, 09:42 AM	#3
Piper Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: L.I. NY (where the Jets used to be from) Posts: 13,197	He is truly embarrassing.

09-04-2011, 10:41 AM	#4
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,329	[QUOTE=Piper;4127668]He is truly embarrassing.[/QUOTE] You think our roads and bridges are good to go? We have been rotting from the inside out and our country needs roads and bridges and Americans to build them.

09-04-2011, 11:03 AM	#5
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,029	[QUOTE=cr726;4127706].... and Americans to build them.[/QUOTE] Nah. Let's have Guatemalan day laborers from the Home Depot parking lot do it instead. Union members have no skillz, yo...

09-04-2011, 11:41 AM	#6
palmetto defender All League Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,687	Union jobs. Just what we need- so the mob can get their cut as well as corrupt union bosses. Anyone catch AFL-CIO pres Trumka on the talk show circuit. If there is a better picture of a leg breaker I don't know who it would be. Roads do need to be fixed. Let's have a combo of union and non union labor. BTW, unions have been working on the DC beltway for well over 40 years. Good progress leaning on their shovels.

09-04-2011, 01:05 PM	#7
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	[QUOTE=palmetto defender;4127748]Union jobs. Just what we need- so the mob can get their cut as well as corrupt union bosses. Anyone catch AFL-CIO pres Trumka on the talk show circuit. If there is a better picture of a leg breaker I don't know who it would be. Roads do need to be fixed. Let's have a combo of union and non union labor. BTW, unions have been working on the DC beltway for well over 40 years. Good progress leaning on their shovels.[/QUOTE] Union labor is pricey but it's also high quality. I dont want a bunch of unregulated pure profit seekers, building a bridge that's supposed to last for 100 years. in China they don't have unions and their high speed rail project is a debacle. High quality costs money, that's a lesson of life. Learn it the easy way or learn it the hard way.

09-04-2011, 06:15 PM	#9
Frequent Flyer Now....infrequent. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,903	[QUOTE=cr726;4127706]You think our roads and bridges are good to go? We have been rotting from the inside out and our country needs roads and bridges and Americans to build them.[/QUOTE] Obama said that's what The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 was for. So why are we still "rotting from the inside out". :huh:

09-04-2011, 07:07 PM	#10
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,029	[QUOTE=Winstonbiggs;4128092]In many casses Unions have used their clout to pay off substandard work that doesn't meet code...[/QUOTE] Exactly. That's why the skyscrapers in NYC are inferior to the cinder block sprawl in places like Haiti and the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

09-05-2011, 12:01 AM	#11
Winstonbiggs Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,940	[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4128287]Exactly. That's why the skyscrapers in NYC are inferior to the cinder block sprawl in places like Haiti and the Democratic Republic of the Congo.[/QUOTE] Machu Picchu, The Great Wall and the Pyramids were built by non union slave labor and are still standing. Take a look at the road beds in the US that have been laid in the last 5 years. Stuff is built with a plan not with unsupervised labor.

09-05-2011, 12:28 AM	#12
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,329	[QUOTE=Frequent Flyer;4128244]Obama said that's what The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 was for. So why are we still "rotting from the inside out". :huh:[/QUOTE] 2 years is plenty of time to re-build the USA. :rolleyes:

09-05-2011, 12:30 AM	#13
Winstonbiggs Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,940	[QUOTE=cr726;4128534]2 years is plenty of time to re-build the USA. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] Certainly enough time to evolve into a third world country.

09-06-2011, 10:34 AM	#15
Piper Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: L.I. NY (where the Jets used to be from) Posts: 13,197	[QUOTE=cr726;4127706]You think our roads and bridges are good to go? We have been rotting from the inside out and our country needs roads and bridges and Americans to build them.[/QUOTE] No, I think it is laughable that Obama would make the case ahead of time that the transportation bill should be approved without scrutiny or debate by implying that the Republicans are evil if they dare question anything in the bill. Loading these necessary bills with pork is the oldest political game in the book for both sides and is exactly how we ended up in this mess. Trying to paint the opposition as 'anti-jobs' ahead of time is desperate and pathetic, especially for the POTUS.

09-07-2011, 03:23 PM	#16
MnJetFan All League Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,302	Stop using gas tax money for bike paths, trains that no one rides. The tax is for roads and ROADS alone. If you want bike paths maybe put a path tax on bikes and the train riders pay the full fair on the trains not the subsidized fair!