Mangold - High Ankle Sprain - Page 2

stanner · 09-19-2011, 10:05 AM

[QUOTE=Vinny Testaverde's Niece;4149728]It's bad news for the Jets that the Raiders defense was embarrassed by Buffalo? please explain[/QUOTE]

because they can't possibly play poorly two weeks in a row, right? i mean, statistics and stuff.

MDL_JET · 09-19-2011, 10:05 AM

This blows. I'm guessing he'll be out for atleast a month. And I'd rather he do that then rushing him back. Even though the oline will be shaky without him, still think we'll be OK up until that point.

Raider9175 · 09-19-2011, 10:12 AM

[QUOTE=Vinny Testaverde's Niece;4149728]It's bad news for the Jets that the Raiders defense was embarrassed by Buffalo? please explain[/QUOTE]

Again the defense knows they were the only reason they aren't 2-0 today. Those guys have alot of pride(Seymour, Kelly, Houston Shaughnessy etc You can bet they are getting alot of grief in the papers and from the fans. Take it to the bank those guys will comeout looking alot diffrent. Also they should get mike Mitchell back as he a key guy in their subdefense packages.

Mangold can't go your going to have troublke against raiders fierce front four. Say what yopu want about Fitspatrick but the guy is smart and will pick the correct wr to throw to. Lets se sanchez is capable of doing that.

SlickBri481 · 09-19-2011, 10:12 AM

Not good, we face some tough defensive lines coming up.

I don't know how much faith I have in a rookie free agent center. At least he'll get the reps in practice

LI JET FAN · 09-19-2011, 10:16 AM

Mangold is one tough SOB. I wouldn't be surprised to see him at center next Sunday , sprained ankle and all.

Darth Vader · 09-19-2011, 10:26 AM

[QUOTE=jetsfan1983;4149718]Unless you have complete trash at the position, center is just one of those positions that you can replace fairly easily.

The times that it hurts is really only when you are taking on 3-4 teams and it's not like New England plays that style as much anymore. Baltimore rarely plays Ngata over the nose so that's not huge there either.[/QUOTE]

Correct...

Vinny Testaverde's Niece · 09-19-2011, 10:28 AM

Yes because the previous 38 NFL games have not asked this question. at last the Raiders provide us the opportunity to see if Sanchez can pick the right receiver to throw to .

[QUOTE=Raider9175;4149746].

Mangold can't go your going to have troublke against raiders fierce front four. Say what yopu want about Fitspatrick but the guy is smart and will pick the correct wr to throw to. Lets se sanchez is capable of doing that.[/QUOTE]

Goodfellaz · 09-19-2011, 10:31 AM

[QUOTE=Raider9175;4149633]Keep believing you don't need Mangold against the raiders. Thats a big loss against Raiders strength their front four. Good luck trying to run it or pass it with him out . There are alot of mismatches Raiders will have against Jets oline if mangold can't go. Jets can't beat the Raiders being one dimential on offense.
The worse news for the Jets is the way Raiders defense played that second half. That defense was gassed and it was embarrassed. Those guys will play alot better next sunday.[/QUOTE]

We haven't even thought about what we'll do without Mangold. Our first priority since the lockout ended was how to gameplan against the most athletic fullback in the league.

Jordy · 09-19-2011, 10:32 AM

[QUOTE=Raider9175;4149633]Keep believing you don't need Mangold against the raiders. Thats a big loss against Raiders strength their front four. Good luck trying to run it or pass it with him out . There are alot of mismatches Raiders will have against Jets oline if mangold can't go. Jets can't beat the Raiders being one dimential on offense.
The worse news for the Jets is the way Raiders defense played that second half. That defense was gassed and it was embarrassed. Those guys will play alot better next sunday.[/QUOTE]
Must have been a tough loss to swallow yesterday?

Jordy · 09-19-2011, 10:34 AM

[QUOTE=Raider9175;4149633]
The worse news for the Jets is the way Raiders defense played that second half. That defense was gassed and it was embarrassed. Those guys will play alot better next sunday.[/QUOTE]

LOLz...wait...what?

carlito1171 · 09-19-2011, 10:36 AM

[QUOTE=Raider9175;4149746]Again the defense knows they were the only reason they aren't 2-0 today. Those guys have alot of pride(Seymour, Kelly, Houston Shaughnessy etc Y[B]ou can bet they are getting alot of grief in the papers and from the fans. Take it to the bank those guys will comeout looking alot diffrent.[/B] Also they should get mike Mitchell back as he a key guy in their subdefense packages.

Mangold can't go your going to have troublke against raiders fierce front four. Say what yopu want about Fitspatrick but the guy is smart and will pick the correct wr to throw to. Lets se sanchez is capable of doing that.[/QUOTE]

like they havent been recieving grief from the papers for being so ****ty after Rich Gannon retired?? :roll:

Borgoguy · 09-19-2011, 10:36 AM

[QUOTE=Jordy;4149786]Must have been a tough loss to swallow yesterday?[/QUOTE]

Swallowing wasn't the issue for Oakland yesterday, Jody. They just got boned, and non-lubed, to boot.

Raider9175 · 09-19-2011, 10:53 AM

[QUOTE=Jordy;4149786]Must have been a tough loss to swallow yesterday?[/QUOTE]

Not as tough as I normally would have expected. I actually was feeling pretty good. im estatic what I saw from the offense with alot of their key weapons still out. I told everyone on here if Raiders tackles hold up this offense could be as explosive as anyone. Nothing I saw yesterday says i was far off in my anaylsis.

Every game LT jared veldheeer gets better and better(this guy after every practice is putting in extra work with the coaches- has the drive to be the best)

Wow this rookie Wr Denarius moore is going to be something special. I like to see him and Ford become the starting Wr . with dhb coming in as slot reciever.

bitonti · 09-19-2011, 10:56 AM

[QUOTE=LI JET FAN;4149756]Mangold is one tough SOB. I wouldn't be surprised to see him at center next Sunday , sprained ankle and all.[/QUOTE]

if next week were the Super Bowl I'd agree with this

but the Jets have alot of work to do this year I'd rather let Mangold heal up and have him firing on all cylinders down the stretch. None of the backup options are ideal but the Jets have Mangold signed long term we don't want him screwing his ankle up for good.

Raider9175 · 09-19-2011, 11:01 AM

[QUOTE=Jordy;4149791]LOLz...wait...what?[/QUOTE]

When the Jets have trouble moving the football on raiders defense next week. you will know what I mean. Until than think your playing a jaguars type of defense. Outside of S Holmes and Keller + Cumberland the rest of your weapons are slow .

bitonti · 09-19-2011, 11:02 AM

[QUOTE=Raider9175;4149862]When the Jets have trouble moving the football on raiders defense next week. you will know what I mean. Until than think your playing a jaguars type of defense. Outside of S Holmes and Keller + Cumberland the rest of your weapons are slow .[/QUOTE]

dude you should be worried about Raiders O vs Jets D matchup. the defense is nasty

Raider9175 · 09-19-2011, 11:06 AM

[QUOTE=Goodfellaz;4149782]We haven't even thought about what we'll do without Mangold. Our first priority since the lockout ended was how to gameplan against the most athletic fullback in the league.[/QUOTE]

Marcel reece is going to be matchup problems for you. A Lb or a safety aren't covering him. raiders should get their TE(K Boss) back this week . Jets are going to have problem with him. Jacoby Ford is healthy and Revis is on him . I like his chances. IF he even with you before balls thrown, he leaving you.

SINYJets · 09-19-2011, 11:12 AM

[QUOTE=Raider9175;4149873]Marcel reece is going to be matchup problems for you. A Lb or a safety aren't covering him. raiders should get their TE(K Boss) back this week . Jets are going to have problem with him. [B]Jacoby Ford is healthy and Revis is on him . I like his chances.[/B] IF he even with you before balls thrown, he leaving you.[/QUOTE]

I like you.

You bring the LOLz.

Raider9175 · 09-19-2011, 11:19 AM

[QUOTE=bitonti;4149863]dude you should be worried about Raiders O vs Jets D matchup. the defense is nasty[/QUOTE]
Your not playing a Jaguars offense or the Raiders offense of two years ago.

No Raideres match up very well with the Jets on ofense. Whose picking up a Darren Mcfadden or Marcel Reece out of backfield(both have legitimate WR skills that you can use there skills alot further down the field) Kevin Boss will be another mismatch as jets can't match up with that kind of Te. Raiders are one of the best screen teams out there and thats a nightmare for overagressive defense. (not to mention some gullible rookie Dlineman)

Raiders have so much at Wr now, they can go to multiple WR sets and have some serious mismatches against your third and fourth CB while still having D Mcfadden in the backfield to worry about.

Jets can't get to the Qb with their front four .(thats a serious problem) Hue jackson and AL Saunders are very familiar with this rex defense . They will be ready and know where to go to exploit this defense.

Raider9175 · 09-19-2011, 11:26 AM

[QUOTE=SINYJets;4149882]I like you.

You bring the LOLz.[/QUOTE]

Tell me why do you think Revis had so much trouble against Santonio Holmes in practice. If you think Holmes is fast, than your in for a treat with Ford. Ford isn't some james Jett type who can run very fast in a straight line(very limited in patterns he can run) , this guy has some serious wr skills to go with that speed. YEs I like his chances on Revis.

09-19-2011, 10:05 AM	#21
stanner All League Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cape Cod, MA Posts: 2,809	[QUOTE=Vinny Testaverde's Niece;4149728]It's bad news for the Jets that the Raiders defense was embarrassed by Buffalo? please explain[/QUOTE] because they can't possibly play poorly two weeks in a row, right? i mean, statistics and stuff.

09-19-2011, 10:05 AM	#22
MDL_JET All Pro Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,633	This blows. I'm guessing he'll be out for atleast a month. And I'd rather he do that then rushing him back. Even though the oline will be shaky without him, still think we'll be OK up until that point.

09-19-2011, 10:12 AM	#23
Raider9175 Raider football- JUST FLYNN BABY. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,289	[QUOTE=Vinny Testaverde's Niece;4149728]It's bad news for the Jets that the Raiders defense was embarrassed by Buffalo? please explain[/QUOTE] Again the defense knows they were the only reason they aren't 2-0 today. Those guys have alot of pride(Seymour, Kelly, Houston Shaughnessy etc You can bet they are getting alot of grief in the papers and from the fans. Take it to the bank those guys will comeout looking alot diffrent. Also they should get mike Mitchell back as he a key guy in their subdefense packages. Mangold can't go your going to have troublke against raiders fierce front four. Say what yopu want about Fitspatrick but the guy is smart and will pick the correct wr to throw to. Lets se sanchez is capable of doing that.

09-19-2011, 10:12 AM	#24
SlickBri481 Heal up Darrelle... All Pro Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 6,351	Not good, we face some tough defensive lines coming up. I don't know how much faith I have in a rookie free agent center. At least he'll get the reps in practice

09-19-2011, 10:16 AM	#25
LI JET FAN All Pro Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,257	Mangold is one tough SOB. I wouldn't be surprised to see him at center next Sunday , sprained ankle and all.

09-19-2011, 10:26 AM	#26
Darth Vader Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 11,872	[QUOTE=jetsfan1983;4149718]Unless you have complete trash at the position, center is just one of those positions that you can replace fairly easily. The times that it hurts is really only when you are taking on 3-4 teams and it's not like New England plays that style as much anymore. Baltimore rarely plays Ngata over the nose so that's not huge there either.[/QUOTE] Correct...

09-19-2011, 10:28 AM	#27
Vinny Testaverde's Niece Post Count Not Affected By Demise of Hotties Forum All League Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 4,176	Yes because the previous 38 NFL games have not asked this question. at last the Raiders provide us the opportunity to see if Sanchez can pick the right receiver to throw to . [QUOTE=Raider9175;4149746]. Mangold can't go your going to have troublke against raiders fierce front four. Say what yopu want about Fitspatrick but the guy is smart and will pick the correct wr to throw to. Lets se sanchez is capable of doing that.[/QUOTE]

09-19-2011, 10:31 AM	#28
Goodfellaz Gettin' a God damn snack... Practice Squad Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: North Jersey Posts: 376	[QUOTE=Raider9175;4149633]Keep believing you don't need Mangold against the raiders. Thats a big loss against Raiders strength their front four. Good luck trying to run it or pass it with him out . There are alot of mismatches Raiders will have against Jets oline if mangold can't go. Jets can't beat the Raiders being one dimential on offense. The worse news for the Jets is the way Raiders defense played that second half. That defense was gassed and it was embarrassed. Those guys will play alot better next sunday.[/QUOTE] We haven't even thought about what we'll do without Mangold. Our first priority since the lockout ended was how to gameplan against the most athletic fullback in the league.

09-19-2011, 10:32 AM	#29
Jordy Keeping it real... Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tårnby, Denmark Posts: 23,145	[QUOTE=Raider9175;4149633]Keep believing you don't need Mangold against the raiders. Thats a big loss against Raiders strength their front four. Good luck trying to run it or pass it with him out . There are alot of mismatches Raiders will have against Jets oline if mangold can't go. Jets can't beat the Raiders being one dimential on offense. The worse news for the Jets is the way Raiders defense played that second half. That defense was gassed and it was embarrassed. Those guys will play alot better next sunday.[/QUOTE] Must have been a tough loss to swallow yesterday?

09-19-2011, 10:34 AM	#30
Jordy Keeping it real... Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tårnby, Denmark Posts: 23,145	[QUOTE=Raider9175;4149633] The worse news for the Jets is the way Raiders defense played that second half. That defense was gassed and it was embarrassed. Those guys will play alot better next sunday.[/QUOTE] LOLz...wait...what?

09-19-2011, 10:36 AM	#31
carlito1171 The Dawn of the John Idzik Era All League Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,856	[QUOTE=Raider9175;4149746]Again the defense knows they were the only reason they aren't 2-0 today. Those guys have alot of pride(Seymour, Kelly, Houston Shaughnessy etc Y[B]ou can bet they are getting alot of grief in the papers and from the fans. Take it to the bank those guys will comeout looking alot diffrent.[/B] Also they should get mike Mitchell back as he a key guy in their subdefense packages. Mangold can't go your going to have troublke against raiders fierce front four. Say what yopu want about Fitspatrick but the guy is smart and will pick the correct wr to throw to. Lets se sanchez is capable of doing that.[/QUOTE] like they havent been recieving grief from the papers for being so ****ty after Rich Gannon retired?? :roll:

09-19-2011, 10:36 AM	#32
Borgoguy Not one image until my posts are restored. Veteran Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,382	[QUOTE=Jordy;4149786]Must have been a tough loss to swallow yesterday?[/QUOTE] Swallowing wasn't the issue for Oakland yesterday, Jody. They just got boned, and non-lubed, to boot.

09-19-2011, 10:53 AM	#33
Raider9175 Raider football- JUST FLYNN BABY. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,289	[QUOTE=Jordy;4149786]Must have been a tough loss to swallow yesterday?[/QUOTE] Not as tough as I normally would have expected. I actually was feeling pretty good. im estatic what I saw from the offense with alot of their key weapons still out. I told everyone on here if Raiders tackles hold up this offense could be as explosive as anyone. Nothing I saw yesterday says i was far off in my anaylsis. Every game LT jared veldheeer gets better and better(this guy after every practice is putting in extra work with the coaches- has the drive to be the best) Wow this rookie Wr Denarius moore is going to be something special. I like to see him and Ford become the starting Wr . with dhb coming in as slot reciever.

09-19-2011, 10:56 AM	#34
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	[QUOTE=LI JET FAN;4149756]Mangold is one tough SOB. I wouldn't be surprised to see him at center next Sunday , sprained ankle and all.[/QUOTE] if next week were the Super Bowl I'd agree with this but the Jets have alot of work to do this year I'd rather let Mangold heal up and have him firing on all cylinders down the stretch. None of the backup options are ideal but the Jets have Mangold signed long term we don't want him screwing his ankle up for good.

09-19-2011, 11:01 AM	#35
Raider9175 Raider football- JUST FLYNN BABY. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,289	[QUOTE=Jordy;4149791]LOLz...wait...what?[/QUOTE] When the Jets have trouble moving the football on raiders defense next week. you will know what I mean. Until than think your playing a jaguars type of defense. Outside of S Holmes and Keller + Cumberland the rest of your weapons are slow .

09-19-2011, 11:02 AM	#36
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	[QUOTE=Raider9175;4149862]When the Jets have trouble moving the football on raiders defense next week. you will know what I mean. Until than think your playing a jaguars type of defense. Outside of S Holmes and Keller + Cumberland the rest of your weapons are slow .[/QUOTE] dude you should be worried about Raiders O vs Jets D matchup. the defense is nasty

09-19-2011, 11:06 AM	#37
Raider9175 Raider football- JUST FLYNN BABY. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,289	[QUOTE=Goodfellaz;4149782]We haven't even thought about what we'll do without Mangold. Our first priority since the lockout ended was how to gameplan against the most athletic fullback in the league.[/QUOTE] Marcel reece is going to be matchup problems for you. A Lb or a safety aren't covering him. raiders should get their TE(K Boss) back this week . Jets are going to have problem with him. Jacoby Ford is healthy and Revis is on him . I like his chances. IF he even with you before balls thrown, he leaving you.

09-19-2011, 11:12 AM	#38
SINYJets Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,195	[QUOTE=Raider9175;4149873]Marcel reece is going to be matchup problems for you. A Lb or a safety aren't covering him. raiders should get their TE(K Boss) back this week . Jets are going to have problem with him. [B]Jacoby Ford is healthy and Revis is on him . I like his chances.[/B] IF he even with you before balls thrown, he leaving you.[/QUOTE] I like you. You bring the LOLz.

09-19-2011, 11:19 AM	#39
Raider9175 Raider football- JUST FLYNN BABY. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,289	[QUOTE=bitonti;4149863]dude you should be worried about Raiders O vs Jets D matchup. the defense is nasty[/QUOTE] Your not playing a Jaguars offense or the Raiders offense of two years ago. No Raideres match up very well with the Jets on ofense. Whose picking up a Darren Mcfadden or Marcel Reece out of backfield(both have legitimate WR skills that you can use there skills alot further down the field) Kevin Boss will be another mismatch as jets can't match up with that kind of Te. Raiders are one of the best screen teams out there and thats a nightmare for overagressive defense. (not to mention some gullible rookie Dlineman) Raiders have so much at Wr now, they can go to multiple WR sets and have some serious mismatches against your third and fourth CB while still having D Mcfadden in the backfield to worry about. Jets can't get to the Qb with their front four .(thats a serious problem) Hue jackson and AL Saunders are very familiar with this rex defense . They will be ready and know where to go to exploit this defense.

09-19-2011, 11:26 AM	#40
Raider9175 Raider football- JUST FLYNN BABY. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,289	[QUOTE=SINYJets;4149882]I like you. You bring the LOLz.[/QUOTE] Tell me why do you think Revis had so much trouble against Santonio Holmes in practice. If you think Holmes is fast, than your in for a treat with Ford. Ford isn't some james Jett type who can run very fast in a straight line(very limited in patterns he can run) , this guy has some serious wr skills to go with that speed. YEs I like his chances on Revis.