Kosher Chinese: Living, Teaching, and Eating with China’s Other Billion

Buster · 10-03-2011, 12:32 AM

[URL="http://whyy.org/cms/radiotimes/2011/09/30/13618/"]http://whyy.org/[/URL]

a very interesting listen

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Writer and teacher MICHAEL LEVY describes China to his students as a country exactly like the United States in size, in cities, in the same number of rich and poor people – but add one billion peasants. Levy served two years of service in the Peace Corps in China and saw a country different than the one we read about in the mainstream headline news, the China becoming the competitive international superpower with its exponential economic growth, bullet trains, high-tech factories, it is shadowed by human rights and labor shortcomings. When Levy arrived in the interior province of Guizhou in 2005 he was expected to immerse himself in the culture, including accepting his Peace Corps stipend (about $100 a month) that put him at the income level of the agrarian, temporary home. Communism is dominant in the “other billion” part of the heartland of the country and he says it took him over a year and a half to have an honest discussion about politics and religion with his new friends and extended family. As Levy believes the Peace Corps, in its 50th year, is important to the United States foreign policy, he had to put aside his cultural and religious beliefs of Kosher and vegetarian life to be part of this larger mission. Levy’s been back in the U.S. teaching mostly at schools of privilege, which he says is the polar opposite of "the poorest kids on Earth” culture he experienced in 2005-2007. His new memoir on his Chinese experience is Kosher Chinese: Living, Teaching, and Eating with China’s Other Billion.

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AlbanyJet · 10-03-2011, 08:05 AM

[quote]...it is shadowed by human rights and labor shortcomings.[/quote]

Republicans shift jobs to China and India but Democrats fail to ship human rights and labor practices there.

That's why we lose jobs and wages here in the US-of-A! If the cost of moving business operations to China or India were higher then it would be cost effective to keep those jobs here. Not all jobs, but many!

Romney-Cain 2012

:usaflag:

:jets17

bitonti · 10-03-2011, 09:38 AM

I actually heard this guy on the radio a couple times, very interesting stuff

he says China is like America plus a billion peasants. Imagine another billion people rural poor in this country.

When I hear that I don't get concerned about China as a possible military enemy. they have their own problems, and are 3000 miles away.

chiefst2000 · 10-03-2011, 01:13 PM

[QUOTE=bitonti;4172268]I actually heard this guy on the radio a couple times, very interesting stuff

he says China is like America plus a billion peasants. Imagine another billion people rural poor in this country.

When I hear that I don't get concerned about China as a possible military enemy. they have their own problems, and are 3000 miles away.[/QUOTE]

They differ from America in that those Rural poor essentially serve as a slave class to the Urbanites. They come from the rural communities. They are literally housed at the factories they work at. They get paid on average $200 per month. This compares to their urban counterparts that get 3 to 4 times that amount for the same work. Now another difference between the countries is that China's government is a heartless souless entity. They are known for uprooting millions of people from their lands to create a new electric generating dam. They are known for their population control policies. The lack of democracy there means that the minority urbanites in control are not concerned about the needs of their slave class. Rather the opposite in that they have a vested interest in keeping things that way. Similar to our southerners back in the 1800's. It is a different culture for sure.

Buster · 10-03-2011, 04:01 PM

[QUOTE=chiefst2000;4172876]They differ from America in that those Rural poor essentially serve as a slave class to the Urbanites. They come from the rural communities. They are literally housed at the factories they work at. They get paid on average $200 per month. This compares to their urban counterparts that get 3 to 4 times that amount for the same work. Now another difference between the countries is that China's government is a heartless souless entity. They are known for uprooting millions of people from their lands to create a new electric generating dam. They are known for their population control policies. The lack of democracy there means that the minority urbanites in control are not concerned about the needs of their slave class. Rather the opposite in that they have a vested interest in keeping things that way. Similar to our southerners back in the 1800's. It is a different culture for sure.[/QUOTE]

maybe you should listen to this interview since much of this is duscussed by a guy who spent 2 years in China.

AlbanyJet · 10-03-2011, 08:09 PM

Democrats are completely missing the boat on this serious issue that affects American workers.

If the Chinese and Indian companies had higher employee costs it would be more economically advantageous to retain many jobs here for Americans.

Democrats should be exporting human-rights, health-care and better labor practices to these two countries. Not just for the egalitarian cause but to make America more competitive.

Romney-Cain 2012

:usaflag:

:jets17

Buster · 10-03-2011, 10:50 PM

[QUOTE=AlbanyJet;4173882]Democrats are completely missing the boat on this serious issue that affects American workers.

If the Chinese and Indian companies had higher employee costs it would be more economically advantageous to retain many jobs here for Americans.

Democrats should be exporting human-rights, health-care and better labor practices to these two countries. Not just for the egalitarian cause but to make America more competitive.

Romney-Cain 2012

:usaflag:

:jets17[/QUOTE]

You realize elected American officials have no power in China and India?

AlbanyJet · 10-04-2011, 09:12 AM

[QUOTE=Buster;4174065]You realize elected American officials have no power in China and India?[/QUOTE]

"Power isn't something that's given to you. Power is something that you take."
Jock Ewing
Dallas TV Show

Romney-Cain 2012

:usaflag:

:jets17

Buster · 10-04-2011, 02:15 PM

[QUOTE=AlbanyJet;4174342]"Power isn't something that's given to you. Power is something that you take."
Jock Ewing
Dallas TV Show

Romney-Cain 2012

:usaflag:

:jets17[/QUOTE]

You are quoting a fictional character on a poorly written TV show from the 1980's?

So you think the Democratic party should seize control of India and China?

10-03-2011, 12:32 AM	#1
Buster not a rocket surgeon All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East of the Jordan, West of the Rock of Gibraltar Posts: 4,267	Kosher Chinese: Living, Teaching, and Eating with China’s Other Billion [URL="http://whyy.org/cms/radiotimes/2011/09/30/13618/"]http://whyy.org/[/URL] a very interesting listen [QUOTE] Writer and teacher MICHAEL LEVY describes China to his students as a country exactly like the United States in size, in cities, in the same number of rich and poor people – but add one billion peasants. Levy served two years of service in the Peace Corps in China and saw a country different than the one we read about in the mainstream headline news, the China becoming the competitive international superpower with its exponential economic growth, bullet trains, high-tech factories, it is shadowed by human rights and labor shortcomings. When Levy arrived in the interior province of Guizhou in 2005 he was expected to immerse himself in the culture, including accepting his Peace Corps stipend (about $100 a month) that put him at the income level of the agrarian, temporary home. Communism is dominant in the “other billion” part of the heartland of the country and he says it took him over a year and a half to have an honest discussion about politics and religion with his new friends and extended family. As Levy believes the Peace Corps, in its 50th year, is important to the United States foreign policy, he had to put aside his cultural and religious beliefs of Kosher and vegetarian life to be part of this larger mission. Levy’s been back in the U.S. teaching mostly at schools of privilege, which he says is the polar opposite of "the poorest kids on Earth” culture he experienced in 2005-2007. His new memoir on his Chinese experience is Kosher Chinese: Living, Teaching, and Eating with China’s Other Billion. [/QUOTE]

10-03-2011, 08:05 AM	#2
AlbanyJet All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,623	[quote]...it is shadowed by human rights and labor shortcomings.[/quote] Republicans shift jobs to China and India but Democrats fail to ship human rights and labor practices there. That's why we lose jobs and wages here in the US-of-A! If the cost of moving business operations to China or India were higher then it would be cost effective to keep those jobs here. Not all jobs, but many! Romney-Cain 2012 :usaflag: :jets17

10-03-2011, 09:38 AM	#3
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	I actually heard this guy on the radio a couple times, very interesting stuff he says China is like America plus a billion peasants. Imagine another billion people rural poor in this country. When I hear that I don't get concerned about China as a possible military enemy. they have their own problems, and are 3000 miles away.

10-03-2011, 01:13 PM	#4
chiefst2000 Champion of Common Sense All Pro Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,823	[QUOTE=bitonti;4172268]I actually heard this guy on the radio a couple times, very interesting stuff he says China is like America plus a billion peasants. Imagine another billion people rural poor in this country. When I hear that I don't get concerned about China as a possible military enemy. they have their own problems, and are 3000 miles away.[/QUOTE] They differ from America in that those Rural poor essentially serve as a slave class to the Urbanites. They come from the rural communities. They are literally housed at the factories they work at. They get paid on average $200 per month. This compares to their urban counterparts that get 3 to 4 times that amount for the same work. Now another difference between the countries is that China's government is a heartless souless entity. They are known for uprooting millions of people from their lands to create a new electric generating dam. They are known for their population control policies. The lack of democracy there means that the minority urbanites in control are not concerned about the needs of their slave class. Rather the opposite in that they have a vested interest in keeping things that way. Similar to our southerners back in the 1800's. It is a different culture for sure.

10-03-2011, 04:01 PM	#5
Buster not a rocket surgeon All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East of the Jordan, West of the Rock of Gibraltar Posts: 4,267	[QUOTE=chiefst2000;4172876]They differ from America in that those Rural poor essentially serve as a slave class to the Urbanites. They come from the rural communities. They are literally housed at the factories they work at. They get paid on average $200 per month. This compares to their urban counterparts that get 3 to 4 times that amount for the same work. Now another difference between the countries is that China's government is a heartless souless entity. They are known for uprooting millions of people from their lands to create a new electric generating dam. They are known for their population control policies. The lack of democracy there means that the minority urbanites in control are not concerned about the needs of their slave class. Rather the opposite in that they have a vested interest in keeping things that way. Similar to our southerners back in the 1800's. It is a different culture for sure.[/QUOTE] maybe you should listen to this interview since much of this is duscussed by a guy who spent 2 years in China.

10-03-2011, 08:09 PM	#6
AlbanyJet All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,623	Democrats are completely missing the boat on this serious issue that affects American workers. If the Chinese and Indian companies had higher employee costs it would be more economically advantageous to retain many jobs here for Americans. Democrats should be exporting human-rights, health-care and better labor practices to these two countries. Not just for the egalitarian cause but to make America more competitive. Romney-Cain 2012 :usaflag: :jets17

10-03-2011, 10:50 PM	#7
Buster not a rocket surgeon All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East of the Jordan, West of the Rock of Gibraltar Posts: 4,267	[QUOTE=AlbanyJet;4173882]Democrats are completely missing the boat on this serious issue that affects American workers. If the Chinese and Indian companies had higher employee costs it would be more economically advantageous to retain many jobs here for Americans. Democrats should be exporting human-rights, health-care and better labor practices to these two countries. Not just for the egalitarian cause but to make America more competitive. Romney-Cain 2012 :usaflag: :jets17[/QUOTE] You realize elected American officials have no power in China and India?

10-04-2011, 09:12 AM	#8
AlbanyJet All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,623	[QUOTE=Buster;4174065]You realize elected American officials have no power in China and India?[/QUOTE] "Power isn't something that's given to you. Power is something that you take." Jock Ewing Dallas TV Show Romney-Cain 2012 :usaflag: :jets17

10-04-2011, 02:15 PM	#9
Buster not a rocket surgeon All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East of the Jordan, West of the Rock of Gibraltar Posts: 4,267	[QUOTE=AlbanyJet;4174342]"Power isn't something that's given to you. Power is something that you take." Jock Ewing Dallas TV Show Romney-Cain 2012 :usaflag: :jets17[/QUOTE] You are quoting a fictional character on a poorly written TV show from the 1980's? So you think the Democratic party should seize control of India and China?