Ground & Pound?

jetster · 12-02-2011, 09:49 AM

Pretty funny when you think about this.
We have one running back that can't stay healthy when carrying the load & is not even a breakaway runner.
We have an OLD HOF running back that is really only good for 8-12 carries per game, mostly as a 3rd down back & has missed the last 2 games.
We have a backup in McKnight that is more of a slasher, screen back.

Ground & Pound? Shouldn't even be mentioned with this 2011 team.
Does this running game scare ANYONE?
We're ranked 26th!

Where does Greene rank in the NFL vs all other backs?
Lagarett Blount is a BETTER back than Greene & he was a UDFA!

Say what you want about Sanchez but look what has happened to Eli & the Giants without a running game, 3 losses in a row & another coming this Sunday, yet our 3rd year QB playing with a horrible RT, an uneven running game, a slow 2nd receiver, a star Wideout that does not go 100% all out,
a new fullback & a lousy OC that has been mediocre for 6 years.

Match that to what Brees & Rogers have & it's a total mismatch, especially Brees! Pierre Thomas is as good as Greene & he's a BACKUP! Sproles, Ingram! Plus all his receivers!
Look at Rogers receivers!

Greentide · 12-02-2011, 03:21 PM

[QUOTE=jetster;4260039]Pretty funny when you think about this.
We have one running back that can't stay healthy when carrying the load & is not even a breakaway runner.
We have an OLD HOF running back that is really only good for 8-12 carries per game, mostly as a 3rd down back & has missed the last 2 games.
We have a backup in McKnight that is more of a slasher, screen back.

Ground & Pound? Shouldn't even be mentioned with this 2011 team.
Does this running game scare ANYONE?
We're ranked 26th!

Where does Greene rank in the NFL vs all other backs?
Lagarett Blount is a BETTER back than Greene & he was a UDFA!

Say what you want about Sanchez but look what has happened to Eli & the Giants without a running game, 3 losses in a row & another coming this Sunday, yet our 3rd year QB playing with a horrible RT, an uneven running game, a slow 2nd receiver, a star Wideout that does not go 100% all out,
a new fullback & a lousy OC that has been mediocre for 6 years.

Match that to what Brees & Rogers have & it's a total mismatch, especially Brees! Pierre Thomas is as good as Greene & he's a BACKUP! Sproles, Ingram! Plus all his receivers!
Look at Rogers receivers![/QUOTE]

Better O-Line = success at whatever you're trying to do. We need to keep collecting young O line and D line studs. First 2/3 rounds every draft should be geared towards that, then we'd be a perrenial playoff team. Too many folks get enarmored by the "skill" position players.

Charlie Brown · 12-02-2011, 04:42 PM

[QUOTE=jetster;4260039]Pretty funny when you think about this.
We have one running back that can't stay healthy when carrying the load & is not even a breakaway runner.
We have an OLD HOF running back that is really only good for 8-12 carries per game, mostly as a 3rd down back & has missed the last 2 games.
We have a backup in McKnight that is more of a slasher, screen back.

Ground & Pound? Shouldn't even be mentioned with this 2011 team.
Does this running game scare ANYONE?
We're ranked 26th!

Where does Greene rank in the NFL vs all other backs?
Lagarett Blount is a BETTER back than Greene & he was a UDFA!

Say what you want about Sanchez but look what has happened to Eli & the Giants without a running game, 3 losses in a row & another coming this Sunday, yet our 3rd year QB playing with a horrible RT, an uneven running game, a slow 2nd receiver, a star Wideout that does not go 100% all out,
a new fullback & a lousy OC that has been mediocre for 6 years.

Match that to what Brees & Rogers have & it's a total mismatch, especially Brees! Pierre Thomas is as good as Greene & he's a BACKUP! Sproles, Ingram! Plus all his receivers!
Look at Rogers receivers![/QUOTE]

Come on now Sanchez should be able to lift anyone regardless of how they are playing to the SB!!!!

I mean if we are honest 10 guys pulled out from the stands should have no effect on how Sanchez plays, right!!!!! No running game, poor routes by the WRs, outrageously poor OL play, these are just exceuses, right?????

Lets get Sanchez out of here so we can get the HOF QB play back in here that we fans have been used to for the last 25 years!!!!:eek:

Are you with me!!!!:rolleyes:

adb280z · 12-02-2011, 10:16 PM

[QUOTE=jetster;4260039]Pretty funny when you think about this.
We have one running back that can't stay healthy when carrying the load & is not even a breakaway runner.
We have an OLD HOF running back that is really only good for 8-12 carries per game, mostly as a 3rd down back & has missed the last 2 games.
We have a backup in McKnight that is more of a slasher, screen back.

Ground & Pound? Shouldn't even be mentioned with this 2011 team.
Does this running game scare ANYONE?
We're ranked 26th!

Where does Greene rank in the NFL vs all other backs?
Lagarett Blount is a BETTER back than Greene & he was a UDFA!

Say what you want about Sanchez but look what has happened to Eli & the Giants without a running game, 3 losses in a row & another coming this Sunday, yet our 3rd year QB playing with a horrible RT, an uneven running game, a slow 2nd receiver, a star Wideout that does not go 100% all out,
a new fullback & a lousy OC that has been mediocre for 6 years.

Match that to what Brees & Rogers have & it's a total mismatch, especially Brees! Pierre Thomas is as good as Greene & he's a BACKUP! Sproles, Ingram! Plus all his receivers!
Look at Rogers receivers![/QUOTE]

Blount's draft status was due his behavior issues, not talent.

JETSET47 · 12-02-2011, 10:44 PM

Shonn Greene is an above average RB. He showed enough big play potential during his rookie season (especially in the playoffs) for the Jets FO to let Thomas Jones go via free agency.

The G&P was nonexistent through the first 5 games. There was a lot of focus on the passing game and the results were dreadful. The first offensive snap of the 2011 season set the tone for the season. DeMarcus Ware blew passed Wayne Hunter and crushed Sanchez. That happened several times that game.

There isn't a defense out there that respects our passing game. They blitz frequently & often with success.

12-02-2011, 09:49 AM	#1
jetster All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,925	Ground & Pound? Pretty funny when you think about this. We have one running back that can't stay healthy when carrying the load & is not even a breakaway runner. We have an OLD HOF running back that is really only good for 8-12 carries per game, mostly as a 3rd down back & has missed the last 2 games. We have a backup in McKnight that is more of a slasher, screen back. Ground & Pound? Shouldn't even be mentioned with this 2011 team. Does this running game scare ANYONE? We're ranked 26th! Where does Greene rank in the NFL vs all other backs? Lagarett Blount is a BETTER back than Greene & he was a UDFA! Say what you want about Sanchez but look what has happened to Eli & the Giants without a running game, 3 losses in a row & another coming this Sunday, yet our 3rd year QB playing with a horrible RT, an uneven running game, a slow 2nd receiver, a star Wideout that does not go 100% all out, a new fullback & a lousy OC that has been mediocre for 6 years. Match that to what Brees & Rogers have & it's a total mismatch, especially Brees! Pierre Thomas is as good as Greene & he's a BACKUP! Sproles, Ingram! Plus all his receivers! Look at Rogers receivers! Last edited by jetster; 12-02-2011 at 09:52 AM.

12-02-2011, 03:21 PM	#2
Greentide Practice Squad Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 385	[QUOTE=jetster;4260039]Pretty funny when you think about this. We have one running back that can't stay healthy when carrying the load & is not even a breakaway runner. We have an OLD HOF running back that is really only good for 8-12 carries per game, mostly as a 3rd down back & has missed the last 2 games. We have a backup in McKnight that is more of a slasher, screen back. Ground & Pound? Shouldn't even be mentioned with this 2011 team. Does this running game scare ANYONE? We're ranked 26th! Where does Greene rank in the NFL vs all other backs? Lagarett Blount is a BETTER back than Greene & he was a UDFA! Say what you want about Sanchez but look what has happened to Eli & the Giants without a running game, 3 losses in a row & another coming this Sunday, yet our 3rd year QB playing with a horrible RT, an uneven running game, a slow 2nd receiver, a star Wideout that does not go 100% all out, a new fullback & a lousy OC that has been mediocre for 6 years. Match that to what Brees & Rogers have & it's a total mismatch, especially Brees! Pierre Thomas is as good as Greene & he's a BACKUP! Sproles, Ingram! Plus all his receivers! Look at Rogers receivers![/QUOTE] Better O-Line = success at whatever you're trying to do. We need to keep collecting young O line and D line studs. First 2/3 rounds every draft should be geared towards that, then we'd be a perrenial playoff team. Too many folks get enarmored by the "skill" position players.

12-02-2011, 04:42 PM	#3
Charlie Brown Please Pray for the Safety of Everyone!!! Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 1999 Location: New York City Posts: 5,529	[QUOTE=jetster;4260039]Pretty funny when you think about this. We have one running back that can't stay healthy when carrying the load & is not even a breakaway runner. We have an OLD HOF running back that is really only good for 8-12 carries per game, mostly as a 3rd down back & has missed the last 2 games. We have a backup in McKnight that is more of a slasher, screen back. Ground & Pound? Shouldn't even be mentioned with this 2011 team. Does this running game scare ANYONE? We're ranked 26th! Where does Greene rank in the NFL vs all other backs? Lagarett Blount is a BETTER back than Greene & he was a UDFA! Say what you want about Sanchez but look what has happened to Eli & the Giants without a running game, 3 losses in a row & another coming this Sunday, yet our 3rd year QB playing with a horrible RT, an uneven running game, a slow 2nd receiver, a star Wideout that does not go 100% all out, a new fullback & a lousy OC that has been mediocre for 6 years. Match that to what Brees & Rogers have & it's a total mismatch, especially Brees! Pierre Thomas is as good as Greene & he's a BACKUP! Sproles, Ingram! Plus all his receivers! Look at Rogers receivers![/QUOTE] Come on now Sanchez should be able to lift anyone regardless of how they are playing to the SB!!!! I mean if we are honest 10 guys pulled out from the stands should have no effect on how Sanchez plays, right!!!!! No running game, poor routes by the WRs, outrageously poor OL play, these are just exceuses, right????? Lets get Sanchez out of here so we can get the HOF QB play back in here that we fans have been used to for the last 25 years!!!!:eek: Are you with me!!!!:rolleyes:

12-02-2011, 10:16 PM	#4
adb280z All League Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Belleville, NJ Posts: 3,432	[QUOTE=jetster;4260039]Pretty funny when you think about this. We have one running back that can't stay healthy when carrying the load & is not even a breakaway runner. We have an OLD HOF running back that is really only good for 8-12 carries per game, mostly as a 3rd down back & has missed the last 2 games. We have a backup in McKnight that is more of a slasher, screen back. Ground & Pound? Shouldn't even be mentioned with this 2011 team. Does this running game scare ANYONE? We're ranked 26th! Where does Greene rank in the NFL vs all other backs? Lagarett Blount is a BETTER back than Greene & he was a UDFA! Say what you want about Sanchez but look what has happened to Eli & the Giants without a running game, 3 losses in a row & another coming this Sunday, yet our 3rd year QB playing with a horrible RT, an uneven running game, a slow 2nd receiver, a star Wideout that does not go 100% all out, a new fullback & a lousy OC that has been mediocre for 6 years. Match that to what Brees & Rogers have & it's a total mismatch, especially Brees! Pierre Thomas is as good as Greene & he's a BACKUP! Sproles, Ingram! Plus all his receivers! Look at Rogers receivers![/QUOTE] Blount's draft status was due his behavior issues, not talent.

12-02-2011, 10:44 PM	#5
JETSET47 Veteran Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,686	Shonn Greene is an above average RB. He showed enough big play potential during his rookie season (especially in the playoffs) for the Jets FO to let Thomas Jones go via free agency. The G&P was nonexistent through the first 5 games. There was a lot of focus on the passing game and the results were dreadful. The first offensive snap of the 2011 season set the tone for the season. DeMarcus Ware blew passed Wayne Hunter and crushed Sanchez. That happened several times that game. There isn't a defense out there that respects our passing game. They blitz frequently & often with success.