Former NJ Governor: Oops, You Didn't Want That 1.2 Billion, Did You? - Page 2

JetPotato · 12-08-2011, 03:23 PM

[QUOTE=Buster;4269257]Right.

I imagined that entire episode following the 2010 elections with the states public workers unions.

:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Lol.

Apples and oranges. But continue as you wish. :rolleyes:

Buster · 12-08-2011, 03:36 PM

[QUOTE=JetPotato;4269276]Lol.

Apples and oranges. But continue as you wish. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

If state budgets are apples and federal budgets are oranges please explain why the Tea Paerty feels that Governor Christie is such an awesome Presidential Candidate?

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 12-08-2011, 03:56 PM

[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4268931]If it was simply that...wouldn't he have a little clue about where it went?

I mean...and a 1.2 BILLION loss is a little more than just a bad bet.[/QUOTE]

You bastid... :P

Warfish · 12-08-2011, 04:28 PM

[QUOTE=Buster;4269283]If state budgets are apples and federal budgets are oranges[/quote]

They are.

[quote]please explain why the Tea Paerty feels that Governor Christie is such an awesome Presidential Candidate?[/QUOTE]

No idea, I'm not a Tea Party member, nor do I get the mancrust a small minority has for Christie.

PlumberKhan · 12-08-2011, 06:15 PM

[QUOTE=AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite;4269306]You bastid... :P[/QUOTE]

Personally...I'm glad Corzine did this. I wish he lost 10 times that amount. Too bad...he was almost there.

quantum · 12-09-2011, 08:27 AM

[QUOTE=Buster;4269239]Xactly.

You guys pay attention to the stuff you have zero control over. (Ex-Governor leading an outfit that appears to have broken laws and swindled investors)

Then you look the other way when one of your heroes breaks with party orthodoxy. (Current Governor going behind the taxpayers backs to borrow $Billions to add to NJ's already huge debt in order to stimulate the economy)

[URL="http://www.northjersey.com/news/134196908_Christie_wants.html?page=all"]northjersey.com[/URL]

What’s with that?

I know..I know...I know... Warfish is going to say I think government spending to create jobs in a down economy is good policy. And I do

But seems obvious to me Republicans feel stimulus spending is good only when a Republican is in charge.[/QUOTE]

TBH, I like Christie because he's a sarcastic, blunt wise-ass who says exactly what's on his mind. Much like Cuomo, he's started adopting policies with re-election in mind.

JetPotato · 12-09-2011, 08:48 AM

[QUOTE=Buster;4269283]If state budgets are apples and federal budgets are oranges please explain why the Tea Paerty feels that Governor Christie is such an awesome Presidential Candidate?[/QUOTE]

Probably because they know that Christie understands the difference too.

Warfish · 12-09-2011, 09:49 AM

[QUOTE=Buster;4269239]Current Governor borrow $Billions to add to NJ's in order to stimulate the economy[/quote]

Buster Verdict: Against, Outrage!

[QUOTE=Buster;4269239]I think government spending to create jobs in a down economy is good policy. And I do[/quote]

Buster Vedict: For, Support!

[quote]But seems obvious to me Republicans feel stimulus spending is good only when a Republican is in charge.[/QUOTE]

And it seems obvious to me that you're having trouble understanding that your own hypocricy is as painfully clear as any Republicans.

Except other than saying "Christie is doing X", you've not actually shown that ANY J.I. Republican is FOR Christies borrow-into-debt-to-build policies.

So really, all you've shown is that you are, in fact, a hypocrite, who based his for/against positions not on policy, but on party.

bitonti · 12-09-2011, 09:53 AM

[QUOTE=Warfish;4269781]
So really, all you've shown is that you are, in fact, a hypocrite, who based his for/against positions not on policy, but on party.[/QUOTE]

everyone who doesn't agree with you is a hypocrite

Bonhomme Richard · 12-09-2011, 10:45 AM

[QUOTE=Buster;4269283]If state budgets are apples and federal budgets are oranges please explain why the Tea Paerty feels that Governor Christie is such an awesome Presidential Candidate?[/QUOTE]

Uhhhh, they don't. Christie isn't a tea party guy. He was courted for a Presidential run by Republicans that included Henry Kissinger and Bush Sr.

Warfish · 12-09-2011, 11:39 AM

[QUOTE=bitonti;4269792]everyone who doesn't agree with you is a hypocrite[/QUOTE]

No. LiL, for example, almost never agrees with me, but isn't nearly the hypocrite some others here are.

Do you expect that no one will notice that a poster, within the space of two lines say (for example:

I REALLY suport Policy X, it's a great Policy..........Republican X is engaging in Policy X, and it's an OUTRAGE!!!!!!! HE SHOULD BE KILLED!!!

Really?

Or better yet, when a top-tier-wealth guy claims to support a litany of political polices, but doesn't actually (in real terms) support any of them himself? You know the type, always telling everyone how the State shoud spend "our" money on X, TY, Z, and force it on us (in our best interests, of course, we plebes don't know any better in our corrupt "capitalist" system), but when questioned about his own activities, his own choices, he doesn't actually do anything he claims to support?

Not that you'd know anyone like that of course.

It's not a matter of agreement or disagreement. For that, we have elections.

It's a matter of consistency of position, not forming a thought based first on which political party is involved, and actually supporting the ideas you claim to support, yourself.

To expect to post here, and in the space of two lines directly contradict oneself and expect no one to notice....it's laughable.

Buster · 12-09-2011, 04:32 PM

[QUOTE=quantum;4269732]TBH, I like Christie because he's a sarcastic, blunt wise-ass who says exactly what's on his mind. Much like Cuomo, he's started adopting policies with re-election in mind.[/QUOTE]

I think that is what gives the Governor most of his non-NJ support.

Buster · 12-09-2011, 04:42 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;4269781]Buster Verdict: Against, Outrage!

Buster Vedict: For, Support!

And it seems obvious to me that you're having trouble understanding that your own hypocricy is as painfully clear as any Republicans.

Except other than saying "Christie is doing X", you've not actually shown that ANY J.I. Republican is FOR Christies borrow-into-debt-to-build policies.

So really, all you've shown is that you are, in fact, a hypocrite, who based his for/against positions not on policy, but on party.[/QUOTE]

1. GFY

2.Why do I have to show what any JI Republican poster is for or against?
I am speaking of Tea Party members in general terms. They appear to love Governor Christy without knowing what policies he has supported or enacted.

It is your game to try to pin a stance on another JI member not mine. You make this board all very personal. You do not refute or promote ideas you refute posters and IMHO it is chicken sh!t.

3. Last thing Just because I support government borrowing to stimulate the economy and Governor Christie supports government borrowing to stimulate the economy (but says he doesn't) does not make me a hypocrite. Must I disagree with the Governor on every issue to be allowed to be critical of him?

Warfish · 12-09-2011, 04:54 PM

[QUOTE=Buster;4270333]1. GFY[/quote]

[IMG]http://media.myspacepimper.com/content/gif/smiles/smiles_407.gif[/IMG]

[QUOTE]You do not refute or promote ideas you refute posters and IMHO it is chicken sh!t. [/QUOTE]

As opposed to yourself, whose entire contribution to the board most days is obsessively reposting liberal NJ paper articles on Gov. Christie, right?

If certain posters had any intellectual integrity or consistency, this wouldn;t be an issue. Perhaps you need to look internally, and figure out why you would attack a action or policy you support, only because it's being done by an (R) as opposed to a (D).

To expect to engage in debate here, and not get called out for obvious hypocricy, is just naive. When you support and criticise the same exact policy, based only on party, one should expect to be called for it.

For the record, what I think is chicken**** is a guy on the interweb saying the kinds of things we both know he'd never ever say to a man's face in the real. But I guess opinions differ on the meaning of chicken****, eh?

[QUOTE]3. Last thing Just because I support government borrowing to stimulate the economy and Governor Christie supports government borrowing to stimulate the economy does not make me a hypocrite.[/QUOTE]

It does when you are critical of him for doing what in other circumstances you'd support and celebrate a (D) for doing.

Buster · 12-09-2011, 05:20 PM

[QUOTE=Bonhomme Richard;4269883]Uhhhh, they don't. Christie isn't a tea party guy. He was courted for a Presidential run by Republicans that included Henry Kissinger and Bush Sr.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps I overstated my case

From [B]October 2010[/B]:

[QUOTE]Gov. Christie wins Virginia Tea Party presidential straw poll[/QUOTE]

[URL="http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/10/gov_christie_wins_virginia_tea.html"]http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/10/gov_christie_wins_virginia_tea.html[/URL]

Buster · 12-09-2011, 05:29 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;4270338]

For the record, what I think is chicken**** is a guy on the interweb saying the kinds of things we both know he'd never ever say to a man's face in the real. But I guess opinions differ on the meaning of chicken****, eh?

[/QUOTE]

LOL

You are so very butch!

Warfish · 12-09-2011, 08:48 PM

[QUOTE=Buster;4270367]LOL

You are so very butch![/QUOTE]

I'm not overweight, I'm just big boned.

12-08-2011, 03:23 PM	#21
JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,131	[QUOTE=Buster;4269257]Right. I imagined that entire episode following the 2010 elections with the states public workers unions. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] Lol. Apples and oranges. But continue as you wish. :rolleyes:

12-08-2011, 03:36 PM	#22
Buster not a rocket surgeon All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East of the Jordan, West of the Rock of Gibraltar Posts: 4,267	[QUOTE=JetPotato;4269276]Lol. Apples and oranges. But continue as you wish. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] If state budgets are apples and federal budgets are oranges please explain why the Tea Paerty feels that Governor Christie is such an awesome Presidential Candidate?

12-08-2011, 03:56 PM	#23
AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite is all out of fuCks to give... All Pro Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7,448	[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4268931]If it was simply that...wouldn't he have a little clue about where it went? I mean...and a 1.2 BILLION loss is a little more than just a bad bet.[/QUOTE] You bastid... :P

12-08-2011, 04:28 PM	#24
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	[QUOTE=Buster;4269283]If state budgets are apples and federal budgets are oranges[/quote] They are. [quote]please explain why the Tea Paerty feels that Governor Christie is such an awesome Presidential Candidate?[/QUOTE] No idea, I'm not a Tea Party member, nor do I get the mancrust a small minority has for Christie.

12-08-2011, 06:15 PM	#25
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,013	[QUOTE=AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite;4269306]You bastid... :P[/QUOTE] Personally...I'm glad Corzine did this. I wish he lost 10 times that amount. Too bad...he was almost there.

12-09-2011, 08:27 AM	#26
quantum GFY Snatchez! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: LI Posts: 17,884	[QUOTE=Buster;4269239]Xactly. You guys pay attention to the stuff you have zero control over. (Ex-Governor leading an outfit that appears to have broken laws and swindled investors) Then you look the other way when one of your heroes breaks with party orthodoxy. (Current Governor going behind the taxpayers backs to borrow $Billions to add to NJ's already huge debt in order to stimulate the economy) [URL="http://www.northjersey.com/news/134196908_Christie_wants.html?page=all"]northjersey.com[/URL] What’s with that? I know..I know...I know... Warfish is going to say I think government spending to create jobs in a down economy is good policy. And I do But seems obvious to me Republicans feel stimulus spending is good only when a Republican is in charge.[/QUOTE] TBH, I like Christie because he's a sarcastic, blunt wise-ass who says exactly what's on his mind. Much like Cuomo, he's started adopting policies with re-election in mind.

12-09-2011, 08:48 AM	#27
JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,131	[QUOTE=Buster;4269283]If state budgets are apples and federal budgets are oranges please explain why the Tea Paerty feels that Governor Christie is such an awesome Presidential Candidate?[/QUOTE] Probably because they know that Christie understands the difference too.

12-09-2011, 09:49 AM	#28
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	[QUOTE=Buster;4269239]Current Governor borrow $Billions to add to NJ's in order to stimulate the economy[/quote] Buster Verdict: Against, Outrage! [QUOTE=Buster;4269239]I think government spending to create jobs in a down economy is good policy. And I do[/quote] Buster Vedict: For, Support! [quote]But seems obvious to me Republicans feel stimulus spending is good only when a Republican is in charge.[/QUOTE] And it seems obvious to me that you're having trouble understanding that your own hypocricy is as painfully clear as any Republicans. Except other than saying "Christie is doing X", you've not actually shown that ANY J.I. Republican is FOR Christies borrow-into-debt-to-build policies. So really, all you've shown is that you are, in fact, a hypocrite, who based his for/against positions not on policy, but on party.

12-09-2011, 09:53 AM	#29
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	[QUOTE=Warfish;4269781] So really, all you've shown is that you are, in fact, a hypocrite, who based his for/against positions not on policy, but on party.[/QUOTE] everyone who doesn't agree with you is a hypocrite

12-09-2011, 10:45 AM	#30
Bonhomme Richard Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 4,092	[QUOTE=Buster;4269283]If state budgets are apples and federal budgets are oranges please explain why the Tea Paerty feels that Governor Christie is such an awesome Presidential Candidate?[/QUOTE] Uhhhh, they don't. Christie isn't a tea party guy. He was courted for a Presidential run by Republicans that included Henry Kissinger and Bush Sr.

12-09-2011, 11:39 AM	#31
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	[QUOTE=bitonti;4269792]everyone who doesn't agree with you is a hypocrite[/QUOTE] No. LiL, for example, almost never agrees with me, but isn't nearly the hypocrite some others here are. Do you expect that no one will notice that a poster, within the space of two lines say (for example: I REALLY suport Policy X, it's a great Policy..........Republican X is engaging in Policy X, and it's an OUTRAGE!!!!!!! HE SHOULD BE KILLED!!! Really? Or better yet, when a top-tier-wealth guy claims to support a litany of political polices, but doesn't actually (in real terms) support any of them himself? You know the type, always telling everyone how the State shoud spend "our" money on X, TY, Z, and force it on us (in our best interests, of course, we plebes don't know any better in our corrupt "capitalist" system), but when questioned about his own activities, his own choices, he doesn't actually do anything he claims to support? Not that you'd know anyone like that of course. It's not a matter of agreement or disagreement. For that, we have elections. It's a matter of consistency of position, not forming a thought based first on which political party is involved, and actually supporting the ideas you claim to support, yourself. To expect to post here, and in the space of two lines directly contradict oneself and expect no one to notice....it's laughable.

12-09-2011, 04:32 PM	#32
Buster not a rocket surgeon All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East of the Jordan, West of the Rock of Gibraltar Posts: 4,267	[QUOTE=quantum;4269732]TBH, I like Christie because he's a sarcastic, blunt wise-ass who says exactly what's on his mind. Much like Cuomo, he's started adopting policies with re-election in mind.[/QUOTE] I think that is what gives the Governor most of his non-NJ support.

12-09-2011, 04:42 PM	#33
Buster not a rocket surgeon All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East of the Jordan, West of the Rock of Gibraltar Posts: 4,267	[QUOTE=Warfish;4269781]Buster Verdict: Against, Outrage! Buster Vedict: For, Support! And it seems obvious to me that you're having trouble understanding that your own hypocricy is as painfully clear as any Republicans. Except other than saying "Christie is doing X", you've not actually shown that ANY J.I. Republican is FOR Christies borrow-into-debt-to-build policies. So really, all you've shown is that you are, in fact, a hypocrite, who based his for/against positions not on policy, but on party.[/QUOTE] 1. GFY 2.Why do I have to show what any JI Republican poster is for or against? I am speaking of Tea Party members in general terms. They appear to love Governor Christy without knowing what policies he has supported or enacted. It is your game to try to pin a stance on another JI member not mine. You make this board all very personal. You do not refute or promote ideas you refute posters and IMHO it is chicken sh!t. 3. Last thing Just because I support government borrowing to stimulate the economy and Governor Christie supports government borrowing to stimulate the economy (but says he doesn't) does not make me a hypocrite. Must I disagree with the Governor on every issue to be allowed to be critical of him?

12-09-2011, 04:54 PM	#34
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	[QUOTE=Buster;4270333]1. GFY[/quote] [IMG]http://media.myspacepimper.com/content/gif/smiles/smiles_407.gif[/IMG] [QUOTE]You do not refute or promote ideas you refute posters and IMHO it is chicken sh!t. [/QUOTE] As opposed to yourself, whose entire contribution to the board most days is obsessively reposting liberal NJ paper articles on Gov. Christie, right? If certain posters had any intellectual integrity or consistency, this wouldn;t be an issue. Perhaps you need to look internally, and figure out why you would attack a action or policy you support, only because it's being done by an (R) as opposed to a (D). To expect to engage in debate here, and not get called out for obvious hypocricy, is just naive. When you support and criticise the same exact policy, based only on party, one should expect to be called for it. For the record, what I think is chicken** is a guy on the interweb saying the kinds of things we both know he'd never ever say to a man's face in the real. But I guess opinions differ on the meaning of chicken**, eh? [QUOTE]3. Last thing Just because I support government borrowing to stimulate the economy and Governor Christie supports government borrowing to stimulate the economy does not make me a hypocrite.[/QUOTE] It does when you are critical of him for doing what in other circumstances you'd support and celebrate a (D) for doing.

12-09-2011, 05:20 PM	#35
Buster not a rocket surgeon All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East of the Jordan, West of the Rock of Gibraltar Posts: 4,267	[QUOTE=Bonhomme Richard;4269883]Uhhhh, they don't. Christie isn't a tea party guy. He was courted for a Presidential run by Republicans that included Henry Kissinger and Bush Sr.[/QUOTE] Perhaps I overstated my case From [B]October 2010[/B]: [QUOTE]Gov. Christie wins Virginia Tea Party presidential straw poll[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/10/gov_christie_wins_virginia_tea.html"]http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/10/gov_christie_wins_virginia_tea.html[/URL]

12-09-2011, 05:29 PM	#36
Buster not a rocket surgeon All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East of the Jordan, West of the Rock of Gibraltar Posts: 4,267	[QUOTE=Warfish;4270338] For the record, what I think is chicken** is a guy on the interweb saying the kinds of things we both know he'd never ever say to a man's face in the real. But I guess opinions differ on the meaning of chicken**, eh? [/QUOTE] LOL You are so very butch!

12-09-2011, 08:48 PM	#37
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	[QUOTE=Buster;4270367]LOL You are so very butch![/QUOTE] I'm not overweight, I'm just big boned.