An off season plan...version 1

Beerfish · 01-23-2012, 04:38 PM

Resign: Robert Turner, Aaron Maybin, Jamall Westerman, Sione Pouha

Do not sign or cut: Bryan Thomas, Jim Leonard, LaDainian Thomlinson, Kevin O'Connell, Mark Brunell, Plaxico burress, Nick Folk, Brodney Pool, Wayne hunter, Eric smith TJ Conley

Sign:
Jason Campbell QB - Legit backup and competition for Sanchez
Steve Smith WR - Worth taking a low cost gamble on. The guy was great for the Giants a few years back, injuries have hurt him
Vernon Carey - OG/OT Possible short term help at RT, at the very least a decent backup that can play multiple positions.
Tyrell Johnson - S Another low cost addition, injuries have slowed him in his career.
Donnie Jones - Punter A decent replacement for Conley.

Draft:

1-16 Melvin Ingram OLB - South Carolina (I waffled over this pick, considered Perry and Mercilus strongly.)
2 - 47 Dwight Jones WR - North Carolina
3 - 78 Trumaine Johnson S - Montana
4 - 112 Amini Silatolu OG/OT - Midwestern State
5 - 159 traded to Oakland for WR Louis Murphy
5 - 173 Terrance Ganaway RB - Baylor
6 - 192 traded to Chicago for OT Lance Louis
6 - 210 Nick Provo - TE - Syracuse
7 - 218 Jerrel Young - S - South Florida
7 - 254 Randy Bullock - PK - Texas A & M
7 - 255 Miles Burris - OLB/ILB - Sand Diego State

Tinstar · 01-23-2012, 07:44 PM

When the draft comes around every yr,i watch people gravitate to players who fit the scheme the team is running.What i do,is pick football players who are capable of switching from scheme to scheme and who possess an element of speed. To that end,my 1st round pick have to be either:

Nick Perry - Dynamic edge rusher with John Abraham type skills and speed off the edge.The strength to hold the edge against outside runs and the set the edge either in 34 or 43 schemes.

or

Cordy Glenn - Massive ofensive lineman who can start at RT from today move to OG if it doesn't workout.The deal sealer thou is that this kid has the feet to possible play LT at the next level meaning he could be a replacement for Ferguson down the road or be someone capable of filling in if this player ever came up lame.

My 2 other top priorties are a speed receiver after the 2nd round and a FS .

Bronxville Jets Fan · 01-23-2012, 07:56 PM

I like the Steve Smith signing. Was a solid number 2, still young, and knows Sanchez from USC. He supposedly wants to go back to the Giants, but with the emergence of Cruz, I'm not sure there's room for him on their roster.

carlito1171 · 01-23-2012, 09:03 PM

I like the draft, but I don't like the smith or tyrell johnson signing at all.

Also it might be smart to bring back Leonhard for a year or two until his replacement (probably will be drafted) is ready to take over full time.....but we def need to replace Smitty with a FA.

Much ado about Nothing · 01-23-2012, 11:12 PM

I like Ingram more than Upshaw amongst the short, short reach guys to convert to an NFL DE/OLB, but I don't think either inspires me as first round guys. They'd be huge value picks in the 2nd though...

Really like the Murphy trade if he's healthy. Otherwise though...Not a big fan of Dwight Jones in the 2nd...Silatolu is interesting but not really into the rest...I had no idea the last two FAs even existed tbh.

NYJCAP2 · 01-23-2012, 11:58 PM

I like who you signed and cut from our roster already, but I think we will and have to keep either Smith or Leonhard. Also they could do a lot worse than Folk, I don't mind him.

I'm behind on draft players but I do like Ingram or Glenn in the first.

ryan10 · 01-25-2012, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYJCAP2

I like who you signed and cut from our roster already, but I think we will and have to keep either Smith or Leonhard. Also they could do a lot worse than Folk, I don't mind him.

I'm behind on draft players but I do like Ingram or Glenn in the first.

+1........

Raider9175 · 01-30-2012, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerfish

Resign: Robert Turner, Aaron Maybin, Jamall Westerman, Sione Pouha

Do not sign or cut: Bryan Thomas, Jim Leonard, LaDainian Thomlinson, Kevin O'Connell, Mark Brunell, Plaxico burress, Nick Folk, Brodney Pool, Wayne hunter, Eric smith TJ Conley

Sign:
Jason Campbell QB - Legit backup and competition for Sanchez
Steve Smith WR - Worth taking a low cost gamble on. The guy was great for the Giants a few years back, injuries have hurt him
Vernon Carey - OG/OT Possible short term help at RT, at the very least a decent backup that can play multiple positions.
Tyrell Johnson - S Another low cost addition, injuries have slowed him in his career.
Donnie Jones - Punter A decent replacement for Conley.

Draft:

1-16 Melvin Ingram OLB - South Carolina (I waffled over this pick, considered Perry and Mercilus strongly.)
2 - 47 Dwight Jones WR - North Carolina
3 - 78 Trumaine Johnson S - Montana
4 - 112 Amini Silatolu OG/OT - Midwestern State
5 - 159 traded to Oakland for WR Louis Murphy
5 - 173 Terrance Ganaway RB - Baylor
6 - 192 traded to Chicago for OT Lance Louis
6 - 210 Nick Provo - TE - Syracuse
7 - 218 Jerrel Young - S - South Florida
7 - 254 Randy Bullock - PK - Texas A & M
7 - 255 Miles Burris - OLB/ILB - Sand Diego State

I give you Louis Murphy straight up for Vlad Ducasse . (not joking) I take a shot at him. You win in the trenches. I put this Young Oline and let them grow together. LT jared Veldheer 24 LG Vlad ducasse 25 C Stephon Wisniewski 22, Rg Joe Barksdale 23 Rt Bruce Campbell 24 . Thats alot of beef on the oline.

Beerfish · 01-30-2012, 01:47 PM

The Jets will hang onto Ducasse, too early to give up on him. The reason I proposed a draft pick for Murphy is you guys should be looking at trying to accumulate some picks for your guys down the depth chart. I think you only have 2 picks this year and not many next as well.

Who the heck is your GM now anyway?

Dreamers · 01-30-2012, 02:21 PM

I am not sure I'd want Smith and if we are drafting a WR that early and trading for anther, definitely not. He didn't look good at all this year and had a knee injury again. As much as I liked the idea last year can't say I'd be crazy about it this year. It is very unlikely he will be a productive WR if his knee is that bad. I just cringe when I hear knee injury.

Your just all over here some good some OK only bad is Conley. Dont even try to tell me friggen Donny Jones is a better Punter. Not sure hat your looking at there.

C Mart · 01-30-2012, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerfish

The Jets will hang onto Ducasse, too early to give up on him. The reason I proposed a draft pick for Murphy is you guys should be looking at trying to accumulate some picks for your guys down the depth chart. I think you only have 2 picks this year and not many next as well.

Who the heck is your GM now anyway?

Reggie McKenzie

Raider9175 · 01-30-2012, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerfish

The Jets will hang onto Ducasse, too early to give up on him. The reason I proposed a draft pick for Murphy is you guys should be looking at trying to accumulate some picks for your guys down the depth chart. I think you only have 2 picks this year and not many next as well.

Who the heck is your GM now anyway?

Raiders should be getting a Third(asomugha), a Third or fourth (Zach miller) or a fourth or fifth draft pick/ Nothing (R Gallery) That what they are looking at when compensation picks are announced. So when its all said and done they are just missing a first and second and seventh . With possible an extra 3. 4 or fifth
Makes no sense for them to trade Louis Murphy(whose cheap) for a fifth rounder. Raiders will get one of the big name Freeagents (no first or second) and will target some modest Free agents in free agency.

Reggie Mckenzie is the Raiders General Manager hand picked by Ron Wolf and John Madden.

Next year 2013 draft Raiders are missing a first/ second and a fifth.

With The 97 pick in the 2012 draft the Raiders pick? Could be the 99 pick if they get a third for Miller

01-23-2012, 04:38 PM	#1
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,066	An off season plan...version 1 Resign: Robert Turner, Aaron Maybin, Jamall Westerman, Sione Pouha Do not sign or cut: Bryan Thomas, Jim Leonard, LaDainian Thomlinson, Kevin O'Connell, Mark Brunell, Plaxico burress, Nick Folk, Brodney Pool, Wayne hunter, Eric smith TJ Conley Sign: Jason Campbell QB - Legit backup and competition for Sanchez Steve Smith WR - Worth taking a low cost gamble on. The guy was great for the Giants a few years back, injuries have hurt him Vernon Carey - OG/OT Possible short term help at RT, at the very least a decent backup that can play multiple positions. Tyrell Johnson - S Another low cost addition, injuries have slowed him in his career. Donnie Jones - Punter A decent replacement for Conley. Draft: 1-16 Melvin Ingram OLB - South Carolina (I waffled over this pick, considered Perry and Mercilus strongly.) 2 - 47 Dwight Jones WR - North Carolina 3 - 78 Trumaine Johnson S - Montana 4 - 112 Amini Silatolu OG/OT - Midwestern State 5 - 159 traded to Oakland for WR Louis Murphy 5 - 173 Terrance Ganaway RB - Baylor 6 - 192 traded to Chicago for OT Lance Louis 6 - 210 Nick Provo - TE - Syracuse 7 - 218 Jerrel Young - S - South Florida 7 - 254 Randy Bullock - PK - Texas A & M 7 - 255 Miles Burris - OLB/ILB - Sand Diego State

01-23-2012, 07:44 PM	#2
Tinstar Saved,and Thankfull All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Delaware Posts: 5,453	When the draft comes around every yr,i watch people gravitate to players who fit the scheme the team is running.What i do,is pick football players who are capable of switching from scheme to scheme and who possess an element of speed. To that end,my 1st round pick have to be either: Nick Perry - Dynamic edge rusher with John Abraham type skills and speed off the edge.The strength to hold the edge against outside runs and the set the edge either in 34 or 43 schemes. or Cordy Glenn - Massive ofensive lineman who can start at RT from today move to OG if it doesn't workout.The deal sealer thou is that this kid has the feet to possible play LT at the next level meaning he could be a replacement for Ferguson down the road or be someone capable of filling in if this player ever came up lame. My 2 other top priorties are a speed receiver after the 2nd round and a FS .

01-23-2012, 07:56 PM	#3
Bronxville Jets Fan The eternal optimist Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Eastchester, NY Posts: 1,122	I like the Steve Smith signing. Was a solid number 2, still young, and knows Sanchez from USC. He supposedly wants to go back to the Giants, but with the emergence of Cruz, I'm not sure there's room for him on their roster.

01-23-2012, 09:03 PM	#4
carlito1171 The Dawn of the John Idzik Era All League Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,856	I like the draft, but I don't like the smith or tyrell johnson signing at all. Also it might be smart to bring back Leonhard for a year or two until his replacement (probably will be drafted) is ready to take over full time.....but we def need to replace Smitty with a FA.

01-23-2012, 11:12 PM	#5
Much ado about Nothing Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,602	I like Ingram more than Upshaw amongst the short, short reach guys to convert to an NFL DE/OLB, but I don't think either inspires me as first round guys. They'd be huge value picks in the 2nd though... Really like the Murphy trade if he's healthy. Otherwise though...Not a big fan of Dwight Jones in the 2nd...Silatolu is interesting but not really into the rest...I had no idea the last two FAs even existed tbh.

01-23-2012, 11:58 PM	#6
NYJCAP2 All League Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 3,816	I like who you signed and cut from our roster already, but I think we will and have to keep either Smith or Leonhard. Also they could do a lot worse than Folk, I don't mind him. I'm behind on draft players but I do like Ingram or Glenn in the first.

01-30-2012, 01:47 PM	#9
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,066	The Jets will hang onto Ducasse, too early to give up on him. The reason I proposed a draft pick for Murphy is you guys should be looking at trying to accumulate some picks for your guys down the depth chart. I think you only have 2 picks this year and not many next as well. Who the heck is your GM now anyway?

01-30-2012, 02:21 PM	#10
Dreamers The angry poster All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,396	I am not sure I'd want Smith and if we are drafting a WR that early and trading for anther, definitely not. He didn't look good at all this year and had a knee injury again. As much as I liked the idea last year can't say I'd be crazy about it this year. It is very unlikely he will be a productive WR if his knee is that bad. I just cringe when I hear knee injury. Your just all over here some good some OK only bad is Conley. Dont even try to tell me friggen Donny Jones is a better Punter. Not sure hat your looking at there.