2012 Mets optimism - Page 10

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 06-14-2012, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sg3

on target to make it through this stretch that ends with the pin$triper$ at Citifield still above the 500 mark

which puts them, amazingly, in the hunt for the rest of the season

re the Pin$triper$, hopefully they return the favor that the Mets are providing in St Petersburg with some wins vs the Nats

We just swept the Braves for you... Stop asking the Yanks to do your job for you...

LockeJET · 06-14-2012, 12:17 AM

I've been at the Trop for the last 2 Mets wins and will be there again tomorrow. Tons of Mets fans at the games as well. We sat in LF 3 rows up and boy were people giving Bay sh!t. All game long he was getting hammered by numerous Mets fans. He just flat out stinks!

JumbalayaJet · 06-14-2012, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by LockeJET

I've been at the Trop for the last 2 Mets wins and will be there again tomorrow. Tons of Mets fans at the games as well. We sat in LF 3 rows up and boy were people giving Bay sh!t. All game long he was getting hammered by numerous Mets fans. He just flat out stinks!

Collins has brass balls to put both him and Ike in the same lineup.

Tucker134 · 06-14-2012, 06:24 AM

Ello lfrom Scotland, fellas...anyone ever been here? Just reading about Dickey's gem last night..Mets are appealing to try to have the game ruled a no hitter???

32green · 06-14-2012, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tucker134

Mets are appealing to try to have the game ruled a no hitter???

Thrilled for Dickey, but this is highly ironical considering how Santana got his no-hitter. Just sayin!

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DDNYjets · 06-14-2012, 07:41 AM

Dickey was awesome last night. Even Bay got a hit. If you look, Tampa Bay is very susceptible to getting ho-hit.

Just want to thank the Mets for beating the Rays. Hopefully they finish the sweep tonight.

Lithfan · 06-14-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JumbalayaJet

Collins has brass balls to put both him and Ike in the same lineup.

Maybe Collins patience with Ike is starting to pay off -- he has hit in 4 straight, including two in each of the last two games.

Austin · 06-14-2012, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 32green

Thrilled for Dickey, but this is highly ironical considering how Santana got his no-hitter. Just sayin!

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Agreed. I don't really have a problem with it (it's a judgement call, not changing a ruling based on a blown umpire call) but it shouldn't be changed. I'm not even sure Wright throws out Upton if he fields it cleanly and he had to one hand it because of Upton's speed.

Regardless Dickey is filthy.

In his last six starts: 58 strikeouts and 4 walks. That is simply insane.

Hellickson has been getting no run support, hopefully Santana keeps that trend going tonight.

Austin · 06-14-2012, 12:27 PM

Another reason to be optimistic:

Ike Davis is 6 for 10 with 5 RBIs and 4 walks in his last four games. Hopefully he finally turns it around.

Austin · 06-14-2012, 03:38 PM

Mets up 8-4, Santana loads the bases with no outs... And in comes Jon Rauch...

And not only does he not give up a grand slam, he gets all three outs without allowing a run!

Optimism!

rep · 06-14-2012, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin

Agreed. I don't really have a problem with it (it's a judgement call, not changing a ruling based on a blown umpire call) but it shouldn't be changed. I'm not even sure Wright throws out Upton if he fields it cleanly and he had to one hand it because of Upton's speed.

Regardless Dickey is filthy.

In his last six starts: 58 strikeouts and 4 walks. That is simply insane.

Hellickson has been getting no run support, hopefully Santana keeps that trend going tonight.

Even if it were an error, I wouldn't change it:
http://milkeespress.com/lostninth.html

A no hitter (or perfect game) are just completely different animals when you are pitching knowing you have given up no hits, compared to knowing you gave one up. Between 1961 and 2011, there have been 272 no hitters going into the 9th inning. There have been 136 no hitters between 1961 and 2011. HALF of the no hitters going into the 9th have been broken up. If that doesn't tell you how much pressure there is in the late innings, then I don't know what else could. And that's just the 9th inning. I have to imagine the 7th and 8th innings have quite a bit of pressure as well.

I mean don't get me wrong... It was a terrific performance by Dickey. But we will never know what would have happened if they had ruled that play an error in the 1st inning. You just can't assume that Dickey (or the Rays) would have performed the same way.

For the record, I don't consider Upton's hit "a routine play". But even if I did, I would have a hard time changing it due to the above.

Austin · 06-14-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rep

Even if it were an error, I wouldn't change it:
http://milkeespress.com/lostninth.html

A no hitter (or perfect game) are just completely different animals when you are pitching knowing you have given up no hits, compared to knowing you gave one up. Between 1961 and 2011, there have been 272 no hitters going into the 9th inning. There have been 136 no hitters between 1961 and 2011. HALF of the no hitters going into the 9th have been broken up. If that doesn't tell you how much pressure there is in the late innings, then I don't know what else could. And that's just the 9th inning. I have to imagine the 7th and 8th innings have quite a bit of pressure as well.

I mean don't get me wrong... It was a terrific performance by Dickey. But we will never know what would have happened if they had ruled that play an error in the 1st inning. You just can't assume that Dickey (or the Rays) would have performed the same way.

For the record, I don't consider Upton's hit "a routine play". But even if I did, I would have a hard time changing it due to the above.

I don't disagree. Something like that changes the game going forward, and not just for Dickey -- for the hitters and defense as well.

Austin · 06-14-2012, 05:10 PM

Clean sweep for the Mets over the Rays. Nice to finally see some offense, hopefully they can carry this momentum into the weekend against the Reds.

sg3 · 06-14-2012, 06:05 PM

brooms for the Rays

bring on the Reds next for some real baseball then back to Interleague with the O's and the $triper$ at Citifield and their DH's on the bench

Tucker134 · 06-14-2012, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sg3

brooms for the Rays

bring on the Reds next for some real baseball then back to Interleague with the O's and the $triper$ at Citifield and their DH's on the bench

Ello from Edinburgh!! Optimism across the atlantic....Gleneagles golf, and believe it or not sky sports found the Mets game for me....optimism

sg3 · 06-18-2012, 08:46 PM

Robert Allen Dickey.... ho hum

a one hit shutout of the Orioles through seven

Metsies up 4-0 on, believe it or not...

A GRAND SLAM home run by the Ikeman fast closing in on the Mendoza Line

Ruby2 · 06-18-2012, 08:52 PM

Calling it now...RA Dickey gets this weeks SI cover.

DDNYjets · 06-18-2012, 08:57 PM

Fun watching Dickey. He is embarrassing hitters. It is like he is playing a video game.

Tucker134 · 06-18-2012, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Fun watching Dickey. He is embarrassing hitters. It is like he is playing a video game.

This is so awesome........Dickey just struck out his 12th batter, that's 2nd game in a row with 12.... Aaannnnnnnnd there is back to back 1 hitters and 13 strikeouts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Simply AMAZIN!!!! First time in 68 years an NL pitcher has had back to back 1 hitters....the most DOMINANT pitcher in major league baseball!!!!!!!

DDNYjets · 06-18-2012, 09:20 PM

Maybe he climbed to the top of Kilamanjaro to get some good PEDs.

06-14-2012, 12:17 AM	#182
LockeJET pooping, but thinking of you! Hall of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 15,957	I've been at the Trop for the last 2 Mets wins and will be there again tomorrow. Tons of Mets fans at the games as well. We sat in LF 3 rows up and boy were people giving Bay sh!t. All game long he was getting hammered by numerous Mets fans. He just flat out stinks!

06-14-2012, 06:24 AM	#184
Tucker134 Let's go Isles! All League Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 2,984	Ello lfrom Scotland, fellas...anyone ever been here? Just reading about Dickey's gem last night..Mets are appealing to try to have the game ruled a no hitter???

06-14-2012, 07:41 AM	#186
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,210	Dickey was awesome last night. Even Bay got a hit. If you look, Tampa Bay is very susceptible to getting ho-hit. Just want to thank the Mets for beating the Rays. Hopefully they finish the sweep tonight.

06-14-2012, 12:27 PM	#189
Austin WINNING All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Upper East Side Posts: 6,185	Another reason to be optimistic: Ike Davis is 6 for 10 with 5 RBIs and 4 walks in his last four games. Hopefully he finally turns it around.

06-14-2012, 03:38 PM	#190
Austin WINNING All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Upper East Side Posts: 6,185	Mets up 8-4, Santana loads the bases with no outs... And in comes Jon Rauch... And not only does he not give up a grand slam, he gets all three outs without allowing a run! Optimism!

06-14-2012, 05:10 PM	#193
Austin WINNING All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Upper East Side Posts: 6,185	Clean sweep for the Mets over the Rays. Nice to finally see some offense, hopefully they can carry this momentum into the weekend against the Reds.

06-14-2012, 06:05 PM	#194
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,342	brooms for the Rays bring on the Reds next for some real baseball then back to Interleague with the O's and the $triper$ at Citifield and their DH's on the bench

06-18-2012, 08:46 PM	#196
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,342	Robert Allen Dickey.... ho hum a one hit shutout of the Orioles through seven Metsies up 4-0 on, believe it or not... A GRAND SLAM home run by the Ikeman fast closing in on the Mendoza Line

06-18-2012, 08:52 PM	#197
Ruby2 Patron and Grapefruit Juice Bitchess!!! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jerseystrong Posts: 17,010	Calling it now...RA Dickey gets this weeks SI cover.

06-18-2012, 08:57 PM	#198
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,210	Fun watching Dickey. He is embarrassing hitters. It is like he is playing a video game.

06-18-2012, 09:20 PM	#200
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,210	Maybe he climbed to the top of Kilamanjaro to get some good PEDs.