Songs that you have no idea how they became popular - Page 3

JetPotato · 02-27-2012, 01:08 PM

By the way, you'll have to excuse me. Just read what I wrote again and that last line of my post is what I refer to as a "Monday sentence".

IX 7 III · 02-27-2012, 01:14 PM

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BushyTheBeaver · 02-27-2012, 01:25 PM

Can we all at least agree that Styx and REO Speedwagon blew chunks?

southparkcpa · 02-27-2012, 01:29 PM

[QUOTE=Borgoguy;4377584]LOL. I actually feel sorry for the last generation or two. With the advent of instant/disposable music, they will never comprehend the power of rock in the 60s and 70s. Unless you lived back the, all the mystique and anticipation of the next great artist/band/song style/album is lost.[/QUOTE]

Not just that..but we got to hear it as electronics improved.

I remember hearing "Rock and Roll" by Zeppelin in my buddies car in college. Top notch stero with equalizer (cassette tape) and being blown away. I heard things I NEVER heard before when listening on my so called "JC Penny-stereo" at home.

Now when we listen in remastered music, same experience.

JStokes · 02-27-2012, 01:39 PM

[QUOTE=2foolish197;4377622]...whoa whoa whoa...beep beep beep...back up there soldier...Whipping Post sucks?...GASP!...[/QUOTE]

Sarcasm alert.

I was mocking youngsters mocking some of the all time rock great songs :D

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jetswin · 02-27-2012, 01:44 PM

[QUOTE=BushyTheBeaver;4377724]Can we all at least agree that Styx and REO Speedwagon blew chunks?[/QUOTE]

yes sir!

PlumberKhan · 02-27-2012, 01:45 PM

Anything by Pink Floyd or Iron and Wine....

[SIZE="7"][COLOR="White"]*Warfish dog whistle[/COLOR][/SIZE]

jetswin · 02-27-2012, 01:47 PM

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Ruby2 · 02-27-2012, 01:47 PM

[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4377751]Anything by Pink Floyd or Iron and Wine....

[SIZE="7"][COLOR="White"]*Warfish dog whistle[/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

LOL at the hidden text as that was what I was going to respond.

HAHAH classic.

JStokes · 02-27-2012, 01:50 PM

[QUOTE=Ruby2;4377753]LOL at the hidden text as that was what I was going to respond.

HAHAH classic.[/QUOTE]

Me too--and I was all WLF whenst I saw the hidden message.

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Ruby2 · 02-27-2012, 01:51 PM

[QUOTE=JStokes;4377758]Me too--and I was all WLF whenst I saw the hidden message.

_[/QUOTE]

Seriously though, Iron & Whine, Bon Iver, all those guys suck.

JStokes · 02-27-2012, 01:53 PM

[QUOTE=Ruby2;4377760]Seriously though, Iron & Whine, Bon Iver, all those guys suck.[/QUOTE]

I saw Iron & Wine in concert. My GF likes them, gave me 2 of their CDs.

I can deal with them (him). Nice acoustic stuff to play in the background.

/shrug :D

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Austin · 02-27-2012, 02:18 PM

Music snobbery is one of the few forms of snobbery I don't really undestand. Maybe it's because I've never played an intstrument, but I don't really get how people get so up in arms about what is good or what is bad.... Everything about what type of music you tend to enjoy is subjective and personal.

Borgoguy · 02-27-2012, 02:37 PM

[QUOTE=JetPotato;4377693]No, I didn't say anything of the sort. [B] But I don't think that because you weren't there in the 50's, that you don't have an ability to appreciate his music or its historical impact.[/B]

The 50's being repressed was something that the people of the 50's had to deal with, and if they used music as a means to break that monotony, more power to them. That doesn't mean some kid in the 90's who having his own personal issues that found joy and comfort in Berry's music didn't mean as much to him/her on a personal level.[/QUOTE]

I think you're arguing for argument's sake. You're distorting my concept by going in circles.

A person can "appreciate" music from any era, pop to Baroque and beyond. What I said was that unless an individual has lived through the 60s and 70s, they will lack the context to fully grasp power the power and revolutionary aspects of rock music from that era. Doesn't mean they can't dig it or folks like me are superior, just better able to comprehend its genesis and evolution from being there, not seeing it on film or reading about it.

Neil Young wrote "Ohio" after the Kent State massacre in 1970. A person hearing that song today--even though they might be fully empathetic and [I]appreciative[/I] of the words and music--does not have the same [I]context[/I] as a person from that era who watched the nightly body counts on TV, had relatives in Vietnam or in college at that time, or--like my wife--graduated high school with one of the kids who got killed. You just can't. Just like I can "appreciate" the protest songs of Pete Seeger, Bob Dylan and others, but was too young to get any of the nuances associated with that social turmoil.

PlumberKhan · 02-27-2012, 02:41 PM

[QUOTE=Borgoguy;4377811]I think you're arguing for argument's sake. You're distorting my concept by going in circles.

A person can "appreciate" music from any era, pop to Baroque and beyond. What I said was that unless an individual has lived through the 60s and 70s, they will lack the context to fully grasp power the power and revolutionary aspects of rock music from that era. Doesn't mean they can't dig it or folks like me are superior, just better able to comprehend its genesis and evolution from being there, not seeing it on film or reading about it.

Neil Young wrote "Ohio" after the Kent State massacre in 1970. A person hearing that song today--even though they might be fully empathetic and [I]appreciative[/I] of the words and music--does not have the same [I]context[/I] as a person from that era who watched the nightly body counts on TV, had relatives in Vietnam or in college at that time, or--like my wife--graduated high school with one of the kids who got killed. You just can't. Just like I can "appreciate" the protest songs of Pete Seeger, Bob Dylan and others, but was too young to get any of the nuances associated with that social turmoil.[/QUOTE]

Music is a mirror :yes:

sackdance · 02-27-2012, 02:44 PM

[QUOTE=Borgoguy;4377559]Over-played does not equate with "no idea how they became popular". "All Right Now" became popular because it is a great, well written, rock tune performed by a group of excellent musicians.[/QUOTE]
Precisely.

You should be given the power to delete posts within this thread.

Borgoguy · 02-27-2012, 02:47 PM

[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4377816]Music is a mirror :yes:[/QUOTE]

Absolutely correct.

Let's assume a singer or band in Syria writes music which is both inspirational and evocative of their current revolution/turmoil. These tunes captivates their population and the world with their power. Forty-two years from now, the same amount of time from the Kent State murders, will this/these songs have a similar impact to the kids living there or here? maybe. But, for certain, they will not be as fully appreciated as those in Syria today, or folks like us witnessing it from afar.

sackdance · 02-27-2012, 02:48 PM

[QUOTE=crossfire;4377649]I'd love to hear a station that played deeper cuts off of some albums instead of the same old warhorses.[/QUOTE]
The rock stations never change their formula because it costs them in listeners.

Being a business before anything else, it's a numbers thing. It's too bad.

Fishooked · 02-27-2012, 02:56 PM

[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4377751]Anything by Pink Floyd or Iron and Wine....

[SIZE=7][COLOR=White]*Warfish dog whistle[/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Seriously, that really was just ****ing brilliant.

I hate these threads because all of the YooHooTube links are blocked.
But who here said Styx sucks?

Ironically enough, their worst song at the time, Mr. Roboto, might actually end up being their best one ever :D

[IMG]http://lounge.moviecodec.com/images/attachment/the-kool-aid-man-vs-mr-roboto-5189.gif[/IMG]

Big L · 02-27-2012, 02:57 PM

Any song by Kiss.

02-27-2012, 02:57 PM	#60
Big L Plus six thousand posts Veteran Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: It's all relative Posts: 1,060	No idea how they became popular Any song by Kiss.

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JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,139	By the way, you'll have to excuse me. Just read what I wrote again and that last line of my post is what I refer to as a "Monday sentence".

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BushyTheBeaver size matters All League Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,922	Can we all at least agree that Styx and REO Speedwagon blew chunks?

02-27-2012, 01:29 PM	#44
southparkcpa I see the 88 to 97 period all over again. Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NC Posts: 15,731	[QUOTE=Borgoguy;4377584]LOL. I actually feel sorry for the last generation or two. With the advent of instant/disposable music, they will never comprehend the power of rock in the 60s and 70s. Unless you lived back the, all the mystique and anticipation of the next great artist/band/song style/album is lost.[/QUOTE] Not just that..but we got to hear it as electronics improved. I remember hearing "Rock and Roll" by Zeppelin in my buddies car in college. Top notch stero with equalizer (cassette tape) and being blown away. I heard things I NEVER heard before when listening on my so called "JC Penny-stereo" at home. Now when we listen in remastered music, same experience.

02-27-2012, 01:39 PM	#45
JStokes Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen County, NJ Posts: 20,126	[QUOTE=2foolish197;4377622]...whoa whoa whoa...beep beep beep...back up there soldier...Whipping Post sucks?...GASP!...[/QUOTE] Sarcasm alert. I was mocking youngsters mocking some of the all time rock great songs :D _

02-27-2012, 01:44 PM	#46
jetswin stumblin mumblin butt fumblin Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Westchester Co. Posts: 35,461	[QUOTE=BushyTheBeaver;4377724]Can we all at least agree that Styx and REO Speedwagon blew chunks?[/QUOTE] yes sir!

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PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,013	Anything by Pink Floyd or Iron and Wine.... [SIZE="7"][COLOR="White"]*Warfish dog whistle[/COLOR][/SIZE]

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02-27-2012, 01:47 PM	#49
Ruby2 Patron and Grapefruit Juice Bitchess!!! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jerseystrong Posts: 17,025	[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4377751]Anything by Pink Floyd or Iron and Wine.... [SIZE="7"][COLOR="White"]*Warfish dog whistle[/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE] LOL at the hidden text as that was what I was going to respond. HAHAH classic.

02-27-2012, 01:50 PM	#50
JStokes Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen County, NJ Posts: 20,126	[QUOTE=Ruby2;4377753]LOL at the hidden text as that was what I was going to respond. HAHAH classic.[/QUOTE] Me too--and I was all WLF whenst I saw the hidden message. _

02-27-2012, 01:51 PM	#51
Ruby2 Patron and Grapefruit Juice Bitchess!!! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jerseystrong Posts: 17,025	[QUOTE=JStokes;4377758]Me too--and I was all WLF whenst I saw the hidden message. _[/QUOTE] Seriously though, Iron & Whine, Bon Iver, all those guys suck.

02-27-2012, 01:53 PM	#52
JStokes Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen County, NJ Posts: 20,126	[QUOTE=Ruby2;4377760]Seriously though, Iron & Whine, Bon Iver, all those guys suck.[/QUOTE] I saw Iron & Wine in concert. My GF likes them, gave me 2 of their CDs. I can deal with them (him). Nice acoustic stuff to play in the background. /shrug :D _

02-27-2012, 02:18 PM	#53
Austin WINNING All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Upper East Side Posts: 6,187	Music snobbery is one of the few forms of snobbery I don't really undestand. Maybe it's because I've never played an intstrument, but I don't really get how people get so up in arms about what is good or what is bad.... Everything about what type of music you tend to enjoy is subjective and personal.

02-27-2012, 02:37 PM	#54
Borgoguy Not one image until my posts are restored. Veteran Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,382	[QUOTE=JetPotato;4377693]No, I didn't say anything of the sort. [B] But I don't think that because you weren't there in the 50's, that you don't have an ability to appreciate his music or its historical impact.[/B] The 50's being repressed was something that the people of the 50's had to deal with, and if they used music as a means to break that monotony, more power to them. That doesn't mean some kid in the 90's who having his own personal issues that found joy and comfort in Berry's music didn't mean as much to him/her on a personal level.[/QUOTE] I think you're arguing for argument's sake. You're distorting my concept by going in circles. A person can "appreciate" music from any era, pop to Baroque and beyond. What I said was that unless an individual has lived through the 60s and 70s, they will lack the context to fully grasp power the power and revolutionary aspects of rock music from that era. Doesn't mean they can't dig it or folks like me are superior, just better able to comprehend its genesis and evolution from being there, not seeing it on film or reading about it. Neil Young wrote "Ohio" after the Kent State massacre in 1970. A person hearing that song today--even though they might be fully empathetic and [I]appreciative[/I] of the words and music--does not have the same [I]context[/I] as a person from that era who watched the nightly body counts on TV, had relatives in Vietnam or in college at that time, or--like my wife--graduated high school with one of the kids who got killed. You just can't. Just like I can "appreciate" the protest songs of Pete Seeger, Bob Dylan and others, but was too young to get any of the nuances associated with that social turmoil.

02-27-2012, 02:41 PM	#55
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,013	[QUOTE=Borgoguy;4377811]I think you're arguing for argument's sake. You're distorting my concept by going in circles. A person can "appreciate" music from any era, pop to Baroque and beyond. What I said was that unless an individual has lived through the 60s and 70s, they will lack the context to fully grasp power the power and revolutionary aspects of rock music from that era. Doesn't mean they can't dig it or folks like me are superior, just better able to comprehend its genesis and evolution from being there, not seeing it on film or reading about it. Neil Young wrote "Ohio" after the Kent State massacre in 1970. A person hearing that song today--even though they might be fully empathetic and [I]appreciative[/I] of the words and music--does not have the same [I]context[/I] as a person from that era who watched the nightly body counts on TV, had relatives in Vietnam or in college at that time, or--like my wife--graduated high school with one of the kids who got killed. You just can't. Just like I can "appreciate" the protest songs of Pete Seeger, Bob Dylan and others, but was too young to get any of the nuances associated with that social turmoil.[/QUOTE] Music is a mirror :yes:

02-27-2012, 02:44 PM	#56
sackdance All Pro Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,882	[QUOTE=Borgoguy;4377559]Over-played does not equate with "no idea how they became popular". "All Right Now" became popular because it is a great, well written, rock tune performed by a group of excellent musicians.[/QUOTE] Precisely. You should be given the power to delete posts within this thread.

02-27-2012, 02:47 PM	#57
Borgoguy Not one image until my posts are restored. Veteran Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,382	[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4377816]Music is a mirror :yes:[/QUOTE] Absolutely correct. Let's assume a singer or band in Syria writes music which is both inspirational and evocative of their current revolution/turmoil. These tunes captivates their population and the world with their power. Forty-two years from now, the same amount of time from the Kent State murders, will this/these songs have a similar impact to the kids living there or here? maybe. But, for certain, they will not be as fully appreciated as those in Syria today, or folks like us witnessing it from afar.

02-27-2012, 02:48 PM	#58
sackdance All Pro Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,882	[QUOTE=crossfire;4377649]I'd love to hear a station that played deeper cuts off of some albums instead of the same old warhorses.[/QUOTE] The rock stations never change their formula because it costs them in listeners. Being a business before anything else, it's a numbers thing. It's too bad.

02-27-2012, 02:56 PM	#59
Fishooked dealin' out shithands Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: teh interwebz Posts: 24,710	[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4377751]Anything by Pink Floyd or Iron and Wine.... [SIZE=7][COLOR=White]Warfish dog whistle[/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE] Seriously, that really was just ***ing brilliant. I hate these threads because all of the YooHooTube links are blocked. But who here said Styx sucks? Ironically enough, their worst song at the time, Mr. Roboto, might actually end up being their best one ever :D [IMG]http://lounge.moviecodec.com/images/attachment/the-kool-aid-man-vs-mr-roboto-5189.gif[/IMG]