Jarret Johnson - Page 2

C Mart · 03-01-2012, 12:39 PM

[QUOTE=Joe W. Namath;4380857]

Raiders will cut Wimbley if he doesnt take a pay cut.
[URL]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/01/raiders-will-cut-wimbley-if-he-doesnt-take-pay-cut/[/URL]

Now theres a guy worth looking at in FA. Hes 28, has some speed, and would benefit moving back to olb after playing end in the 4-3 for the raiders.

[B]Pairing him with maybin would give us the speed on the outside we need until we can find a pass rushing stud in the draft[/B].[/QUOTE]

Not saying he is the answer but Ricky Sapp, if healthy, could be an option. And with or without JJohnson, I still think the Jets will draft a LB high in the draft..

Dimitri_0515 · 03-01-2012, 12:40 PM

I wouldn't mind for depth and leadership but please not a starter.

jetsfan1983 · 03-01-2012, 12:53 PM

This video game mentality that some of you have has to stop...

You don't just select 11 starters and they stay out there. It's all about situations in the NFL, even moreso in Rex's scheme.

If they sign Jarrett Johnson, the idea is primarily for 2 downs or other obvious run situations. Passing downs will absolutely still go to Maybin. Pace is probably a better pass rusher than Johnson so he'll be the rusher on the other outside spot in the 4 down linemen alignment.

ozu · 03-01-2012, 01:08 PM

Kam Wimbley is going to get PAID if he's released. We can't afford him at all.

I against I · 03-01-2012, 01:17 PM

[QUOTE=jetsfan1983;4380890]This video game mentality that some of you have has to stop... [/QUOTE]

I'm with you but you know it never will!!

GMCJETS · 03-01-2012, 01:21 PM

Jarret Johnson story......

[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets-interested-jarret-johnson-free-agent-linebacker-played-seasons-rex-ryan-baltimore-ravens-article-1.1031278[/url]

Rexipus Rex · 03-01-2012, 01:29 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4380841]Jets rushing defense gave up less than 4.0 yards per carry last season.

They don't need a run stopper, they need a guy that can bring the heat on the QB.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, and it was like 2.8 up the middle. Do you know what it was on rushes to the outside? It doesn't take a math major to figure that out...

Signing Johnson doesn't preclude the Jets from drafting an OLB. And unless we get Ingram, the guy isn't likely to be an all around OLB from the get go. More likely, the rookie OLB we draft will be eased in and likely only used on passing downs. Then the hope would be that he can eventually evolve into a starting LOLB or ROLB, replacing either Pace or the hole on the other side in 2013.

Ray Ray19 · 03-01-2012, 06:18 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4380841]Jets rushing defense gave up less than 4.0 yards per carry last season.

They don't need a run stopper, they need a guy that can bring the heat on the QB.[/QUOTE]

As usual you expose yourself as the know-nothing troll you are

When Bryan Thomas got hurt, the Jets run defense had a lot of problems, especially on the outside with their containment, the Raider game, even the first Pats game come to mind, Jets rotated their strong side OLB all year, between Westerman and McIntyre. Thomas is coming off of an achillies injury and is a FA, not to mention he's an older player than Johnson.

Signing a player like Johnson makes complete sense, knowing his background in Rex's system, and how invaluable he was when Ryan was Baltimore's DC.

Schooled again, log off, and call it a day, why you're still here for trolling is beyond me. :huh:

Kentucky Jet · 03-01-2012, 06:42 PM

[QUOTE=C Mart;4380879]Not saying he is the answer but Ricky Sapp, if healthy, could be an option. And with or without JJohnson, I still think the Jets will draft a LB high in the draft..[/QUOTE]

I think that you are correct! Sapp and Maybin can really apply some heat on opposing QBs. i also expect Mauga/ Bellore to add some heat in the middle as well. With the addition ( hopefully) of additional safeties, this defense will rock! A passrush will make the secondary absolutely much better! I expect TRACY WILSON to step up in camp and take one safety position. I also love the possibility of Mark Barron on the Jets.

GMCJETS · 03-01-2012, 06:45 PM

Johnson would help Harris in the middle. Once the DL matures and solidifies as a unit Harris can only get better. I like Johnson as a hard working guy who gets the job done.

FijiJet · 03-01-2012, 06:57 PM

[QUOTE=Untouchable;4380836]Sign Johnson, draft Zach Brown to play next to Harris inside.

Damn that would be awesome.[/QUOTE]
Zach Brown is lightning. With his speed and athletic abilities could play OLB where he maybe better suited given he is quite light to be considered ILB

FijiJet · 03-01-2012, 06:59 PM

[QUOTE=Ray Ray19;4381329]As usual you expose yourself as the know-nothing troll you are

When Bryan Thomas got hurt, the Jets run defense had a lot of problems, especially on the outside with their containment, the Raider game, even the first Pats game come to mind, Jets rotated their strong side OLB all year, between Westerman and McIntyre. Thomas is coming off of an achillies injury and is a FA, not to mention he's an older player than Johnson.

Signing a player like Johnson makes complete sense, knowing his background in Rex's system, and how invaluable he was when Ryan was Baltimore's DC.

Schooled again, log off, and call it a day, why you're still here for trolling is beyond me. :huh:[/QUOTE]
+1OOO !! Those are the facts right there.

Troll - you've been told!

C Mart · 03-01-2012, 07:35 PM

[QUOTE=Kentucky Jet;4381341]I think that you are correct! Sapp and Maybin can really apply some heat on opposing QBs. i also expect Mauga/ Bellore to add some heat in the middle as well. With the addition ( hopefully) of additional safeties, this defense will rock! A passrush will make the secondary absolutely much better! I expect TRACY WILSON to step up in camp and take one safety position.[B] I also love the possibility of Mark Barron on the Jets.[/B][/QUOTE]

+1

and this guy in the 2nd round[SIZE=2]

[B]SHEA MCCLELLIN[/B][B] OLB, Boise State[/B][/SIZE][B][SIZE=2]HT: [B] 6-3[/B] WT: [B]258 [/B][/SIZE][/B]

[B]A versatile, explosive athlete with a mighty motor who knows how to reach the quarterback. McClellin possesses a solidly put together frame with a strong upper body which maximizes his length into contact. He plays all over the Boise State defense.[/B] He will play with his hand on the ground, can stand up and rush from a two-point stance and will blitz from the inside as well. He exhibits an explosive first step off the ball both with his hand on the ground and standing up. He can also coil up into his stance, stay low initially off the football and threaten the edge with speed. He does a nice job timing up the snap count and is routinely one of the first lineman moving off the ball. McClellin doesn't waste any motion from a two-point stance either when threatening the backfield. His weight is consistently in his front foot and that generates a burst attacking the backfield. He also displays a real know-how of getting to the quarterback and he possesses a solid pass rushing arsenal. He isn't the most flexible of athletes, but will drop his pad level around the corner, sink his hips and turn the corner. He's balanced/fluidity laterally when working a counter off his speed rush. He gets a bit upright, but extends his arms well, is strong in the lower half working through contact and accelerates well through contact. Also, McClellin extends his arms well at the point, can initially create a pop to gain space and possesses a solid initial burst once he gains a step. He's clever when asked to stunt, disguises his intentions well and works endlessly toward the quarterback.

He also plays the run well for his size, is patient when taking on blocks, extends his arms well and has a violent set of hands. His combination of body control and hand strength allows him to keep himself clean into contact, fend off the block and work his way in pursuit. He is a solid anchor player who can run as well and will make plays off his frame. He likes to run around blocks more so in space and at times will take himself out of plays. [B]Also, McClellin is often asked to drop off into coverage and is a solid athlete in man.[/B] He keeps his feet under him, exhibits some natural balance/fluidity in the hips and can re-direct and close on the football.

Impression: McClellin is a productive pass rusher with a big motor, good skill set and can get after the QB in a number of ways. Looks like a potential starter at the next level.

[url]http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&player=37585[/url]

detjetsfan · 03-01-2012, 08:25 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4380841]Jets rushing defense gave up less than 4.0 yards per carry last season.

They don't need a run stopper, they need a guy that can bring the heat on the QB.[/QUOTE]

How does a Jets hating Pats fan know more about the Jets than most of the Jets fans who post on this board?

GMCJETS · 03-03-2012, 11:19 PM

As per [COLOR="Red"]ROTOWORLD[/COLOR]

Free agent LB Jarret Johnson confirmed that his agent has not held any recent discussions about returning to the Ravens.
"There is nothing active going on," said Johnson. "The Ravens will be in the mix. The body of work is there for them to judge." A Rex Ryan favorite, the Jets and Colts are among the teams that have expressed interest in signing Johnson this offseason.

DDNYjets · 03-04-2012, 06:50 AM

[QUOTE=jetsfan1983;4380890]This video game mentality that some of you have has to stop...

You don't just select 11 starters and they stay out there. It's all about situations in the NFL, even moreso in Rex's scheme.

If they sign Jarrett Johnson, the idea is primarily for 2 downs or other obvious run situations. Passing downs will absolutely still go to Maybin. Pace is probably a better pass rusher than Johnson so he'll be the rusher on the other outside spot in the 4 down linemen alignment.[/QUOTE]

You can also add "fantasy football mentality" to that as well.

Raider9175 · 03-04-2012, 07:05 AM

[QUOTE=Ray Ray19;4381329]As usual you expose yourself as the know-nothing troll you are

When Bryan Thomas got hurt, the Jets run defense had a lot of problems, especially on the outside with their containment, the Raider game, even the first Pats game come to mind, Jets rotated their strong side OLB all year, between Westerman and McIntyre. Thomas is coming off of an achillies injury and is a FA, not to mention he's an older player than Johnson.

Signing a player like Johnson makes complete sense, knowing his background in Rex's system, and how invaluable he was when Ryan was Baltimore's DC.

Schooled again, log off, and call it a day, why you're still here for trolling is beyond me. :huh:[/QUOTE]

I don't think that is the question can he help the jets next season especially agianst the run.
. He probably can. Do you want to invest in a 31 year old lB who strength is not rushing the Qb or in pass coverage. Sooner or later you have to stop the band aid approach and find a player that going to be long term solution at OLB.

Now you have all this money tied up in a Player on the wrong side of thirty and sooner or later his skills start to slip.

Btw last point Correct me If Im wrong The olb's in a 3-4 suppose to be the players getting to the Qb.
What does he do for you in that area. an opposing OC sees a run stuffer in the game (key Olb position that offers nothing as pass rusher)why won't they just throw the football.

jetfan51 · 03-04-2012, 08:52 AM

just don't think jets are financially capable of signing an impact free agent.... Therefore, they will either take a known commodity who can play well in there system like a J.Johnson or even consider resigning B.Thomas. Don't think it will alter Draft plans... I think the Jets are willing to take a calculated risk on players they can get at a bargain, with potential upside.... That is why a guy like Braylon Edwards makes sense.

but..... the Jets clearly need to do better in the draft!

03-01-2012, 12:39 PM	#21
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,304	[QUOTE=Joe W. Namath;4380857] Raiders will cut Wimbley if he doesnt take a pay cut. [URL]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/01/raiders-will-cut-wimbley-if-he-doesnt-take-pay-cut/[/URL] Now theres a guy worth looking at in FA. Hes 28, has some speed, and would benefit moving back to olb after playing end in the 4-3 for the raiders. [B]Pairing him with maybin would give us the speed on the outside we need until we can find a pass rushing stud in the draft[/B].[/QUOTE] Not saying he is the answer but Ricky Sapp, if healthy, could be an option. And with or without JJohnson, I still think the Jets will draft a LB high in the draft.. Last edited by C Mart; 03-01-2012 at 12:59 PM.

03-01-2012, 06:18 PM	#28
Ray Ray19 Not a SOJF Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 13,832	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4380841]Jets rushing defense gave up less than 4.0 yards per carry last season. They don't need a run stopper, they need a guy that can bring the heat on the QB.[/QUOTE] As usual you expose yourself as the know-nothing troll you are When Bryan Thomas got hurt, the Jets run defense had a lot of problems, especially on the outside with their containment, the Raider game, even the first Pats game come to mind, Jets rotated their strong side OLB all year, between Westerman and McIntyre. Thomas is coming off of an achillies injury and is a FA, not to mention he's an older player than Johnson. Signing a player like Johnson makes complete sense, knowing his background in Rex's system, and how invaluable he was when Ryan was Baltimore's DC. Schooled again, log off, and call it a day, why you're still here for trolling is beyond me. :huh: Last edited by Ray Ray19; 03-01-2012 at 06:22 PM.

03-04-2012, 07:05 AM	#37
Raider9175 Raider football- JUST FLYNN BABY. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,293	[QUOTE=Ray Ray19;4381329]As usual you expose yourself as the know-nothing troll you are When Bryan Thomas got hurt, the Jets run defense had a lot of problems, especially on the outside with their containment, the Raider game, even the first Pats game come to mind, Jets rotated their strong side OLB all year, between Westerman and McIntyre. Thomas is coming off of an achillies injury and is a FA, not to mention he's an older player than Johnson. Signing a player like Johnson makes complete sense, knowing his background in Rex's system, and how invaluable he was when Ryan was Baltimore's DC. Schooled again, log off, and call it a day, why you're still here for trolling is beyond me. :huh:[/QUOTE] I don't think that is the question can he help the jets next season especially agianst the run. . He probably can. Do you want to invest in a 31 year old lB who strength is not rushing the Qb or in pass coverage. Sooner or later you have to stop the band aid approach and find a player that going to be long term solution at OLB. Now you have all this money tied up in a Player on the wrong side of thirty and sooner or later his skills start to slip. Btw last point Correct me If Im wrong The olb's in a 3-4 suppose to be the players getting to the Qb. What does he do for you in that area. an opposing OC sees a run stuffer in the game (key Olb position that offers nothing as pass rusher)why won't they just throw the football. Last edited by Raider9175; 03-04-2012 at 07:12 AM.

03-01-2012, 12:40 PM	#22
Dimitri_0515 Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,182	I wouldn't mind for depth and leadership but please not a starter.

03-01-2012, 12:53 PM	#23
jetsfan1983 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,835	This video game mentality that some of you have has to stop... You don't just select 11 starters and they stay out there. It's all about situations in the NFL, even moreso in Rex's scheme. If they sign Jarrett Johnson, the idea is primarily for 2 downs or other obvious run situations. Passing downs will absolutely still go to Maybin. Pace is probably a better pass rusher than Johnson so he'll be the rusher on the other outside spot in the 4 down linemen alignment.

03-01-2012, 01:08 PM	#24
ozu in Section 135, Row 28. All League Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Hoboken Posts: 3,922	Kam Wimbley is going to get PAID if he's released. We can't afford him at all.

03-01-2012, 01:17 PM	#25
I against I drinks from the poison well Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Jackson Heights Posts: 2,212	[QUOTE=jetsfan1983;4380890]This video game mentality that some of you have has to stop... [/QUOTE] I'm with you but you know it never will!!

03-01-2012, 01:21 PM	#26
GMCJETS Been there done that. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,658	Jarret Johnson story...... [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets-interested-jarret-johnson-free-agent-linebacker-played-seasons-rex-ryan-baltimore-ravens-article-1.1031278[/url]

03-01-2012, 01:29 PM	#27
Rexipus Rex Mo' money Veteran Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: E'Ville Posts: 1,200	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4380841]Jets rushing defense gave up less than 4.0 yards per carry last season. They don't need a run stopper, they need a guy that can bring the heat on the QB.[/QUOTE] Yeah, and it was like 2.8 up the middle. Do you know what it was on rushes to the outside? It doesn't take a math major to figure that out... Signing Johnson doesn't preclude the Jets from drafting an OLB. And unless we get Ingram, the guy isn't likely to be an all around OLB from the get go. More likely, the rookie OLB we draft will be eased in and likely only used on passing downs. Then the hope would be that he can eventually evolve into a starting LOLB or ROLB, replacing either Pace or the hole on the other side in 2013.

03-01-2012, 06:42 PM	#29
Kentucky Jet A NY JETS fan! Go Jets! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ormond Beach, Florida Posts: 10,880	[QUOTE=C Mart;4380879]Not saying he is the answer but Ricky Sapp, if healthy, could be an option. And with or without JJohnson, I still think the Jets will draft a LB high in the draft..[/QUOTE] I think that you are correct! Sapp and Maybin can really apply some heat on opposing QBs. i also expect Mauga/ Bellore to add some heat in the middle as well. With the addition ( hopefully) of additional safeties, this defense will rock! A passrush will make the secondary absolutely much better! I expect TRACY WILSON to step up in camp and take one safety position. I also love the possibility of Mark Barron on the Jets.

03-01-2012, 06:45 PM	#30
GMCJETS Been there done that. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,658	Johnson would help Harris in the middle. Once the DL matures and solidifies as a unit Harris can only get better. I like Johnson as a hard working guy who gets the job done.

03-01-2012, 06:57 PM	#31
FijiJet waiting for our pass rush thunderbolt All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,439	[QUOTE=Untouchable;4380836]Sign Johnson, draft Zach Brown to play next to Harris inside. Damn that would be awesome.[/QUOTE] Zach Brown is lightning. With his speed and athletic abilities could play OLB where he maybe better suited given he is quite light to be considered ILB

03-01-2012, 06:59 PM	#32
FijiJet waiting for our pass rush thunderbolt All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,439	[QUOTE=Ray Ray19;4381329]As usual you expose yourself as the know-nothing troll you are When Bryan Thomas got hurt, the Jets run defense had a lot of problems, especially on the outside with their containment, the Raider game, even the first Pats game come to mind, Jets rotated their strong side OLB all year, between Westerman and McIntyre. Thomas is coming off of an achillies injury and is a FA, not to mention he's an older player than Johnson. Signing a player like Johnson makes complete sense, knowing his background in Rex's system, and how invaluable he was when Ryan was Baltimore's DC. Schooled again, log off, and call it a day, why you're still here for trolling is beyond me. :huh:[/QUOTE] +1OOO !! Those are the facts right there. Troll - you've been told!

03-01-2012, 07:35 PM	#33
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,304	[QUOTE=Kentucky Jet;4381341]I think that you are correct! Sapp and Maybin can really apply some heat on opposing QBs. i also expect Mauga/ Bellore to add some heat in the middle as well. With the addition ( hopefully) of additional safeties, this defense will rock! A passrush will make the secondary absolutely much better! I expect TRACY WILSON to step up in camp and take one safety position.[B] I also love the possibility of Mark Barron on the Jets.[/B][/QUOTE] +1 and this guy in the 2nd round[SIZE=2] [B]SHEA MCCLELLIN[/B][B] OLB, Boise State[/B][/SIZE][B][SIZE=2]HT: [B] 6-3[/B] WT: [B]258 [/B][/SIZE][/B] [B]A versatile, explosive athlete with a mighty motor who knows how to reach the quarterback. McClellin possesses a solidly put together frame with a strong upper body which maximizes his length into contact. He plays all over the Boise State defense.[/B] He will play with his hand on the ground, can stand up and rush from a two-point stance and will blitz from the inside as well. He exhibits an explosive first step off the ball both with his hand on the ground and standing up. He can also coil up into his stance, stay low initially off the football and threaten the edge with speed. He does a nice job timing up the snap count and is routinely one of the first lineman moving off the ball. McClellin doesn't waste any motion from a two-point stance either when threatening the backfield. His weight is consistently in his front foot and that generates a burst attacking the backfield. He also displays a real know-how of getting to the quarterback and he possesses a solid pass rushing arsenal. He isn't the most flexible of athletes, but will drop his pad level around the corner, sink his hips and turn the corner. He's balanced/fluidity laterally when working a counter off his speed rush. He gets a bit upright, but extends his arms well, is strong in the lower half working through contact and accelerates well through contact. Also, McClellin extends his arms well at the point, can initially create a pop to gain space and possesses a solid initial burst once he gains a step. He's clever when asked to stunt, disguises his intentions well and works endlessly toward the quarterback. He also plays the run well for his size, is patient when taking on blocks, extends his arms well and has a violent set of hands. His combination of body control and hand strength allows him to keep himself clean into contact, fend off the block and work his way in pursuit. He is a solid anchor player who can run as well and will make plays off his frame. He likes to run around blocks more so in space and at times will take himself out of plays. [B]Also, McClellin is often asked to drop off into coverage and is a solid athlete in man.[/B] He keeps his feet under him, exhibits some natural balance/fluidity in the hips and can re-direct and close on the football. Impression: McClellin is a productive pass rusher with a big motor, good skill set and can get after the QB in a number of ways. Looks like a potential starter at the next level. [url]http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&player=37585[/url]

03-01-2012, 08:25 PM	#34
detjetsfan Supports Coach Ryan All League Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4,009	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4380841]Jets rushing defense gave up less than 4.0 yards per carry last season. They don't need a run stopper, they need a guy that can bring the heat on the QB.[/QUOTE] How does a Jets hating Pats fan know more about the Jets than most of the Jets fans who post on this board?

03-03-2012, 11:19 PM	#35
GMCJETS Been there done that. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,658	As per [COLOR="Red"]ROTOWORLD[/COLOR] Free agent LB Jarret Johnson confirmed that his agent has not held any recent discussions about returning to the Ravens. "There is nothing active going on," said Johnson. "The Ravens will be in the mix. The body of work is there for them to judge." A Rex Ryan favorite, the Jets and Colts are among the teams that have expressed interest in signing Johnson this offseason.

03-04-2012, 06:50 AM	#36
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,297	[QUOTE=jetsfan1983;4380890]This video game mentality that some of you have has to stop... You don't just select 11 starters and they stay out there. It's all about situations in the NFL, even moreso in Rex's scheme. If they sign Jarrett Johnson, the idea is primarily for 2 downs or other obvious run situations. Passing downs will absolutely still go to Maybin. Pace is probably a better pass rusher than Johnson so he'll be the rusher on the other outside spot in the 4 down linemen alignment.[/QUOTE] You can also add "fantasy football mentality" to that as well.

03-04-2012, 08:52 AM	#38
jetfan51 Rookie Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 962	just don't think jets are financially capable of signing an impact free agent.... Therefore, they will either take a known commodity who can play well in there system like a J.Johnson or even consider resigning B.Thomas. Don't think it will alter Draft plans... I think the Jets are willing to take a calculated risk on players they can get at a bargain, with potential upside.... That is why a guy like Braylon Edwards makes sense. but..... the Jets clearly need to do better in the draft!