Saints want to pay Brees like a "very good" not "great" QB. - Page 2

JStokes · 03-02-2012, 01:01 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4381930]Would you have traded Vernon Gholston and Dwayne Robertson for Drew Brees?[/QUOTE]

Are you being funny?

20-20 hindsight is great :rolleyes:

Btw--I was making fun of the disregard for cap considerations, not the 2 number 1 considerations.

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PatsFanTX · 03-02-2012, 01:02 PM

[QUOTE=JStokes;4381933]Are you being funny?

20-20 hindsight is great :rolleyes:

Btw--I was making fun of the disregard for cap considerations, not the 2 number 1 considerations.

_[/QUOTE]

I know that, and yes, it was a joke.

JStokes · 03-02-2012, 01:05 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4381930]Would you have traded Vernon Gholston and Dwayne Robertson for Drew Brees?[/QUOTE]

Would you trade Mccourty and Merriweather for Revis? :rolleyes:

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DDNYjets · 03-02-2012, 01:07 PM

Am I wrong for thinking he would not nearly be as great in a Jets uniform?

Playing outside, cold weather. No All-World Guards to keep the pocket from collapsing. No Sean Payton playbook.

I still think he would complete a high percentage of his passes. But Brees isn't exactly careful with the football. I think his INT numbers would surprise some people. But he does throw a lot more passes than other QBs.

ozu · 03-02-2012, 01:10 PM

Dewayne already cost two 1st rounders. :(

PatsFanTX · 03-02-2012, 01:14 PM

[QUOTE=ozu;4381954]Dewayne already cost two 1st rounders. :([/QUOTE]

Don't forget the 4th as well. ;)

ozu · 03-02-2012, 01:20 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4381959]Don't forget the 4th as well. ;)[/QUOTE]I can at least rest knowing that Chicago did absolutely nothing of note with those picks. Michael Haynes, Rex Grossman, and Ian Scott.

ASG0531 · 03-02-2012, 01:32 PM

Some of the responses in this thread are a joke, right? Brees is a top-3, super super super elite quarterback, worth every penny. His stats outside of the dome only drop from "insane" to "excellent." WTF.

Savage69 · 03-02-2012, 01:44 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4381930]Would you have traded Vernon Gholston and Dwayne Robertson for Drew Brees?[/QUOTE]

Tex stop picking on Bit..;)

Charlie Brown · 03-02-2012, 02:07 PM

[QUOTE=Choon328;4381576][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/01/report-saints-want-to-pay-brees-like-a-very-good-but-not-great-qb/"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/01/report-saints-want-to-pay-brees-like-a-very-good-but-not-great-qb/[/URL]

If they franchise him then it will take 2 #1's to get him. Would you do it?[/QUOTE]

Yes I would, he is NOT INJURED!!!!!!

Charlie Brown · 03-02-2012, 02:15 PM

[QUOTE=crasherino;4381654]And I'm not so sure he's just a product of the dome....he threw for 460 yards against the 49ers - arguably the best defense in the league.

[B]And as for his coach and his surrounding cast, you can say that about every great QB. Montana had Jerry Rice and Bill Walsh. Manning had Tom Moore, Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison[/B].[/QUOTE]

You can't possibly be correct because based on thousands of posts out here and their pounding of Sanchez that a "Great" QB frequently take subpar talent in the NFL and simply "will" their teams to SB wins:rolleyes:

Why just take a look at.Ummmmm ....Look at ummmm Wait give me a minute I will come up with a QB .Ummmmmm.hmmmmm WAIT just give me some time!!!:P

Greensleeves · 03-02-2012, 02:15 PM

[QUOTE=Joe W. Namath;4381594]No, we do not mortage the future for an aging qb who struggles outdoors and in the cold. We play outside in cold weather. We wouldnt be getting the same qb you see in new orleans.[/QUOTE]

I don't think we've played in "cold" weather for quite a while at home. This is becoming a moot point. We aren't in Vermont or Maine.

JStokes · 03-02-2012, 02:31 PM

[QUOTE=Greensleeves;4382031]I don't think we've played in "cold" weather for quite a while at home. This is becoming a moot point. We aren't in Vermont or Maine.[/QUOTE]

Do you go to games?

We've had some totally crappy rainy cold games the past 3 years.

I know--I've sat in the weather.

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Ruby2 · 03-02-2012, 02:35 PM

Brees is a top 5 QB any given season regardless of coaching staff or location.

This thread is so dumb it makes dumb threads look not dumb.

Buzzsaw · 03-02-2012, 02:39 PM

[QUOTE=TurkJetFan;4381868]I would in a heartbeat, not taking the cap into consideration of course.[/QUOTE]

Well of course, this is the offseason at JI, we don't pay attention to no stinkin' salary cap :yes:

JStokes · 03-02-2012, 02:41 PM

[QUOTE=Buzzsaw;4382071]Well of course, this is the offseason at JI, we don't pay attention to no stinkin' salary cap :yes:[/QUOTE]

I say we sign Brees and Peyton and let them battle it out for the starters job.

That way, if Manning goes down, we can have Brees backing him up.

Then Sanchez.

Then Henne.

Then Flynn.

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ASG0531 · 03-02-2012, 02:42 PM

[QUOTE=Ruby2;4382067]Brees is a top 5 QB any given season regardless of coaching staff or location.

This thread is so dumb it makes dumb threads look not dumb.[/QUOTE]

Didn't you get the memo? Everyone who isn't a Jet needs to be qualified as "aging," "unproven," "only good in a dome," "only good with weapons and an OL," etc. And yet we see all the threads wishing Sanchez became anything remotely like Brees. :rolleyes:

DDNYjets · 03-02-2012, 02:46 PM

[QUOTE=JStokes;4382073]I say we sign Brees and Peyton and let them battle it out for the starters job.

That way, if Manning goes down, we can have Brees backing him up.

Then Sanchez.

Then Henne.

Then Flynn.

_[/QUOTE]

Sanchez would be 5th on that depth chart. ;)

Down, Set, Haiku · 03-02-2012, 03:07 PM

[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4382079]Sanchez would be 5th on that depth chart. ;)[/QUOTE]

Sanchez wouldn't even make it out of May OTAs on that depth chart ;)

Dreamers · 03-02-2012, 03:28 PM

Brees is the 2nd best QB in the league right now and will likely retire with every single passing yards record in the book. If they dont want to pay him top 3 money I can name at least 25 teams that would. Sign him and stop being stupid. You hold 0 cards if you actually want him back. If someone is willing to give up 2 1st for friggen GR3 don't you think they'd give up a 1st and 3rd for a future HOF QB? Heck what did Washington give up for McNabb or us for Farve. They were never half as good IMO.

03-02-2012, 01:07 PM	#24
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,209	Am I wrong for thinking he would not nearly be as great in a Jets uniform? Playing outside, cold weather. No All-World Guards to keep the pocket from collapsing. No Sean Payton playbook. I still think he would complete a high percentage of his passes. But Brees isn't exactly careful with the football. I think his INT numbers would surprise some people. But he does throw a lot more passes than other QBs. Last edited by DDNYjets; 03-02-2012 at 01:14 PM.

03-02-2012, 01:32 PM	#28
ASG0531 Veteran Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,711	Some of the responses in this thread are a joke, right? Brees is a top-3, super super super elite quarterback, worth every penny. His stats outside of the dome only drop from "insane" to "excellent." WTF. Last edited by ASG0531; 03-02-2012 at 01:40 PM.

03-02-2012, 01:01 PM	#21
JStokes Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen County, NJ Posts: 20,126	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4381930]Would you have traded Vernon Gholston and Dwayne Robertson for Drew Brees?[/QUOTE] Are you being funny? 20-20 hindsight is great :rolleyes: Btw--I was making fun of the disregard for cap considerations, not the 2 number 1 considerations. _

03-02-2012, 01:02 PM	#22
PatsFanTX JI Resident Troll Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 52,068	[QUOTE=JStokes;4381933]Are you being funny? 20-20 hindsight is great :rolleyes: Btw--I was making fun of the disregard for cap considerations, not the 2 number 1 considerations. _[/QUOTE] I know that, and yes, it was a joke.

03-02-2012, 01:05 PM	#23
JStokes Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen County, NJ Posts: 20,126	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4381930]Would you have traded Vernon Gholston and Dwayne Robertson for Drew Brees?[/QUOTE] Would you trade Mccourty and Merriweather for Revis? :rolleyes: _

03-02-2012, 01:10 PM	#25
ozu in Section 135, Row 28. All League Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Hoboken Posts: 3,922	Dewayne already cost two 1st rounders. :(

03-02-2012, 01:14 PM	#26
PatsFanTX JI Resident Troll Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 52,068	[QUOTE=ozu;4381954]Dewayne already cost two 1st rounders. :([/QUOTE] Don't forget the 4th as well. ;)

03-02-2012, 01:20 PM	#27
ozu in Section 135, Row 28. All League Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Hoboken Posts: 3,922	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4381959]Don't forget the 4th as well. ;)[/QUOTE]I can at least rest knowing that Chicago did absolutely nothing of note with those picks. Michael Haynes, Rex Grossman, and Ian Scott.

03-02-2012, 01:44 PM	#29
Savage69 Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 39,240	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4381930]Would you have traded Vernon Gholston and Dwayne Robertson for Drew Brees?[/QUOTE] Tex stop picking on Bit..;)

03-02-2012, 02:07 PM	#30
Charlie Brown Please Pray for the Safety of Everyone!!! Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 1999 Location: New York City Posts: 5,508	[QUOTE=Choon328;4381576][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/01/report-saints-want-to-pay-brees-like-a-very-good-but-not-great-qb/"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/01/report-saints-want-to-pay-brees-like-a-very-good-but-not-great-qb/[/URL] If they franchise him then it will take 2 #1's to get him. Would you do it?[/QUOTE] Yes I would, he is NOT INJURED!!!!!!

03-02-2012, 02:15 PM	#31
Charlie Brown Please Pray for the Safety of Everyone!!! Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 1999 Location: New York City Posts: 5,508	[QUOTE=crasherino;4381654]And I'm not so sure he's just a product of the dome....he threw for 460 yards against the 49ers - arguably the best defense in the league. [B]And as for his coach and his surrounding cast, you can say that about every great QB. Montana had Jerry Rice and Bill Walsh. Manning had Tom Moore, Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison[/B].[/QUOTE] You can't possibly be correct because based on thousands of posts out here and their pounding of Sanchez that a "Great" QB frequently take subpar talent in the NFL and simply "will" their teams to SB wins:rolleyes: Why just take a look at.Ummmmm ....Look at ummmm Wait give me a minute I will come up with a QB .Ummmmmm.hmmmmm WAIT just give me some time!!!:P

03-02-2012, 02:15 PM	#32
Greensleeves Veteran Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,132	[QUOTE=Joe W. Namath;4381594]No, we do not mortage the future for an aging qb who struggles outdoors and in the cold. We play outside in cold weather. We wouldnt be getting the same qb you see in new orleans.[/QUOTE] I don't think we've played in "cold" weather for quite a while at home. This is becoming a moot point. We aren't in Vermont or Maine.

03-02-2012, 02:31 PM	#33
JStokes Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen County, NJ Posts: 20,126	[QUOTE=Greensleeves;4382031]I don't think we've played in "cold" weather for quite a while at home. This is becoming a moot point. We aren't in Vermont or Maine.[/QUOTE] Do you go to games? We've had some totally crappy rainy cold games the past 3 years. I know--I've sat in the weather. _

03-02-2012, 02:35 PM	#34
Ruby2 Patron and Grapefruit Juice Bitchess!!! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jerseystrong Posts: 17,010	Brees is a top 5 QB any given season regardless of coaching staff or location. This thread is so dumb it makes dumb threads look not dumb.

03-02-2012, 02:39 PM	#35
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26,293	[QUOTE=TurkJetFan;4381868]I would in a heartbeat, not taking the cap into consideration of course.[/QUOTE] Well of course, this is the offseason at JI, we don't pay attention to no stinkin' salary cap :yes:

03-02-2012, 02:41 PM	#36
JStokes Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen County, NJ Posts: 20,126	[QUOTE=Buzzsaw;4382071]Well of course, this is the offseason at JI, we don't pay attention to no stinkin' salary cap :yes:[/QUOTE] I say we sign Brees and Peyton and let them battle it out for the starters job. That way, if Manning goes down, we can have Brees backing him up. Then Sanchez. Then Henne. Then Flynn. _

03-02-2012, 02:42 PM	#37
ASG0531 Veteran Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,711	[QUOTE=Ruby2;4382067]Brees is a top 5 QB any given season regardless of coaching staff or location. This thread is so dumb it makes dumb threads look not dumb.[/QUOTE] Didn't you get the memo? Everyone who isn't a Jet needs to be qualified as "aging," "unproven," "only good in a dome," "only good with weapons and an OL," etc. And yet we see all the threads wishing Sanchez became anything remotely like Brees. :rolleyes:

03-02-2012, 02:46 PM	#38
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,209	[QUOTE=JStokes;4382073]I say we sign Brees and Peyton and let them battle it out for the starters job. That way, if Manning goes down, we can have Brees backing him up. Then Sanchez. Then Henne. Then Flynn. _[/QUOTE] Sanchez would be 5th on that depth chart. ;)

03-02-2012, 03:07 PM	#39
Down, Set, Haiku Is doling out Izuna Drops Practice Squad Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 480	[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4382079]Sanchez would be 5th on that depth chart. ;)[/QUOTE] Sanchez wouldn't even make it out of May OTAs on that depth chart ;)

03-02-2012, 03:28 PM	#40
Dreamers The angry poster All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,395	Brees is the 2nd best QB in the league right now and will likely retire with every single passing yards record in the book. If they dont want to pay him top 3 money I can name at least 25 teams that would. Sign him and stop being stupid. You hold 0 cards if you actually want him back. If someone is willing to give up 2 1st for friggen GR3 don't you think they'd give up a 1st and 3rd for a future HOF QB? Heck what did Washington give up for McNabb or us for Farve. They were never half as good IMO.