Peyton Manning throws hard at workout - Page 2

DDNYjets · 03-03-2012, 09:41 AM

I also think that Goodell is all over this situation. I think he has been in contact with the Mannings and has spoken to their doctors. He does not want something to happen on the field to Manning. That would be unforgivable for the NFL and a PR nightmare that would take years to overcome, if ever.

I am sure that they will evaluate every pimple on his @ss to be a sure as they can be that he will hold up.

TechJet · 03-03-2012, 09:55 AM

If I was Tannanbaum I'd be stalking Manning on Thursday morning early like maybe even 4 am. till the Colts make a decision, then give him the keys to our facilities at Florham park the rest should be history.

Manning should have been a Jet but Parcells fuged it up!

GMCJETS · 03-03-2012, 10:15 AM

[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4382588]I know a lot about spinal fusions and nerve damage relative to the average fan.[/QUOTE]

You fail to mention the risk the other levels are at in the cervical spine. Anytime you are fused the upper and lower levels take on the burden of the fused level. Its very easy to blow out the surrounding levels under stress.

Nerve damage if there was any nerve impigment sometimes never recovers fully.

DDNYjets · 03-03-2012, 10:28 AM

[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4382661]You fail to mention the risk the other levels are at in the cervical spine. Anytime you are fused the upper and lower levels take on the burden of the fused level. Its very easy to blow out the surrounding levels under stress.

Nerve damage if there was any nerve impigment sometimes never recovers fully.[/QUOTE]

We can talk for hours about the issues. I don't feel like wearing out my finger tips.

BTW, you are right. There are many dangers. I am not going to pretend to be an expert. But I do have a little experience with the procedures. And if his doctors are going to say he is at no greater risk than I am going to concede to them. Obviously if they consult many Doctors, there will be some that disagree. But I would like to think that Peyton is going to make the right decision.

k.Rhodes25 · 03-03-2012, 10:29 AM

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GMCJETS · 03-03-2012, 10:30 AM

[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4382670]We can talk for hours about the issues. I don't feel like wearing out my finger tips.

BTW, you are right. There are many dangers. I am not going to pretend to be an expert. But I do have a little experience with the procedures. And if his doctors are going to say he is at no greater risk than I am going to concede to them. Obviously if they consult many Doctors, there will be some that disagree. But I would like to think that Peyton is going to make the right decision.[/QUOTE]

The Drs may rule against it and Peyton may decide to go AMA -against medical advice. Many who have this procedure are never fully allowed back to normal activities. Playing in the NFL is not a normal activity. Just sayin...

Untouchable · 03-03-2012, 10:34 AM

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GMCJETS · 03-03-2012, 10:38 AM

Hes 36 years old and will demand money we cannot afford. I dont see the NYJETS persuing Peyton Manning.

DDNYjets · 03-03-2012, 10:47 AM

[QUOTE=Untouchable;4382678]Arm strength doesn't seem to be an issue.

If Manning's health checks out we'd be stupid not to make a serious play for him.[/QUOTE]

Has this been confirmed. Is it really him?

I am going to look at some videos of his mechanics to see if they match.

My first impression is that Peyton always sprints to the mesh point, even when he is just practicing. Looked a little slow but obviously there are plenty of explanations for that.

I did see his "happy feet" though.

Dimitri_0515 · 03-03-2012, 11:11 AM

GMC , when did you become the most realistic poster on this board. My God, everything you posted was a breath of fresh air.

Play2Win · 03-03-2012, 12:29 PM

[QUOTE=revischrist;4382635]How many times has a hit forced him to miss a game? If he can throw like he normally can and we don't, at least, send out feelers we are morons. And I am a Sanchez apologist, I Defend the kid all the time, but Peyton Manning is an all time great.[/QUOTE]

when did I ever say manning is not an all time great. if manning is signed then you have to cut Sanchez far cap relief. 2nd if manning gets hurt and yes I do consider risky, your season is done . which may not be a bad thing. Sanchez is gone and you get a high draft pick.

DDNYjets · 03-03-2012, 12:36 PM

[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4382676]The Drs may rule against it and Peyton may decide to go AMA -against medical advice. Many who have this procedure are never fully allowed back to normal activities. Playing in the NFL is not a normal activity. Just sayin...[/QUOTE]

I dont think Goodell would let that happen. I think Manning will have to be cleared. I think Goodell and the owners would even collude to prevent it from happening. The league could not afford for this to end badly and then have a leak that he went against doctors wishes. Everything will be on the up and up.

GMCJETS · 03-03-2012, 12:39 PM

[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4382806]I dont think Goodell would let that happen. I think Manning will have to be cleared. I think Goodell and the owners would even collude to prevent it from happening. The league could not afford for this to end badly and then have a leak that he went against doctors wishes. Everything will be on the up and up.[/QUOTE]

Goodell will do whatever he feels is best for the NFL its a business. I dont think there are any injury rules for anything but a concussion. Manning will find a Dr to clear him, watch and see.

Bocajetfan68 · 03-03-2012, 12:43 PM

[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4382813]Goodell will do whatever he feels is best for the NFL its a business. I dont think there are any injury rules for anything but a concussion. Manning will find a Dr to clear him, watch and see.[/QUOTE]

Manning has bin cleared by Dr. to resume his rehab. So I don't think this is an issue.

GMCJETS · 03-03-2012, 12:46 PM

[QUOTE=Bocajetfan68;4382822]Manning has bin cleared by Dr. to resume his rehab. So I don't think this is an issue.[/QUOTE]

Rehab vs playing? I dont think hes been cleared to play. Link?

Bocajetfan68 · 03-03-2012, 12:56 PM

[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4382824]Rehab vs playing? I dont think hes been cleared to play. Link?[/QUOTE]

No link, rehab is first step. Players have had the same prosedure and bin cleared to play in the past. If I recall Manning was in contact with a former Florida QB (forget his name) that had this procedure and continued playing.

Buzzsaw · 03-03-2012, 12:56 PM

[QUOTE=Play2Win;4382798]when did I ever say manning is not an all time great. if manning is signed then you have to cut Sanchez far cap relief. 2nd if manning gets hurt and yes I do consider risky, your season is done . which may not be a bad thing. Sanchez is gone and you get a high draft pick.[/QUOTE]

Not a bad thing? That sounds like a nightmare scenario

jetssjumets · 03-03-2012, 01:00 PM

[QUOTE=Buzzsaw;4382832]Not a bad thing? That sounds like a nightmare scenario[/QUOTE]

+1000000000000000000000000000000000

Exactly. Then watch as Sanchez develops into an all pro with another team...just the Jets luck. :mad: This is a stupid idea.

GMCJETS · 03-03-2012, 01:12 PM

[QUOTE=Bocajetfan68;4382831]No link, rehab is first step. Players have had the same prosedure and bin cleared to play in the past. If I recall Manning was in contact with a former Florida QB (forget his name) that had this procedure and continued playing.[/QUOTE]

Each spinal injury and operation is different. As is the person who had it. Everyone heals differently.

The NYJETS have alot of money invested in a young promising QB if he can return to 2009-2010 form. Manning will want more money than the NYJETS can afford. There are way too many other glaring needs on this team.

Bocajetfan68 · 03-03-2012, 01:22 PM

[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4382856]Each spinal injury and operation is different. As is the person who had it. Everyone heals differently.

The NYJETS have alot of money invested in a young promising QB if he can return to 2009-2010 form. Manning will want more money than the NYJETS can afford. There are way too many other glaring needs on this team.[/QUOTE]

As for Manning to the Jets it is a no brainer the answer is NO!!!!!!!!!!!! to that. As to if Manning will continue his playing day's it is YES!!!!!!!!!!. Phins are being called a front runner and this would be phoolish for him unless he is more about money.

03-03-2012, 09:41 AM	#21
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,210	I also think that Goodell is all over this situation. I think he has been in contact with the Mannings and has spoken to their doctors. He does not want something to happen on the field to Manning. That would be unforgivable for the NFL and a PR nightmare that would take years to overcome, if ever. I am sure that they will evaluate every pimple on his @ss to be a sure as they can be that he will hold up.

03-03-2012, 09:55 AM	#22
TechJet Still waiting for the next Jet SB crown. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Fr:NYC to Mid Ga. Posts: 8,548	If I was Tannanbaum I'd be stalking Manning on Thursday morning early like maybe even 4 am. till the Colts make a decision, then give him the keys to our facilities at Florham park the rest should be history. Manning should have been a Jet but Parcells fuged it up!

03-03-2012, 10:15 AM	#23
GMCJETS Been there done that. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,658	[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4382588]I know a lot about spinal fusions and nerve damage relative to the average fan.[/QUOTE] You fail to mention the risk the other levels are at in the cervical spine. Anytime you are fused the upper and lower levels take on the burden of the fused level. Its very easy to blow out the surrounding levels under stress. Nerve damage if there was any nerve impigment sometimes never recovers fully.

03-03-2012, 10:28 AM	#24
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,210	[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4382661]You fail to mention the risk the other levels are at in the cervical spine. Anytime you are fused the upper and lower levels take on the burden of the fused level. Its very easy to blow out the surrounding levels under stress. Nerve damage if there was any nerve impigment sometimes never recovers fully.[/QUOTE] We can talk for hours about the issues. I don't feel like wearing out my finger tips. BTW, you are right. There are many dangers. I am not going to pretend to be an expert. But I do have a little experience with the procedures. And if his doctors are going to say he is at no greater risk than I am going to concede to them. Obviously if they consult many Doctors, there will be some that disagree. But I would like to think that Peyton is going to make the right decision.

03-03-2012, 10:29 AM	#25
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03-03-2012, 10:30 AM	#26
GMCJETS Been there done that. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,658	[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4382670]We can talk for hours about the issues. I don't feel like wearing out my finger tips. BTW, you are right. There are many dangers. I am not going to pretend to be an expert. But I do have a little experience with the procedures. And if his doctors are going to say he is at no greater risk than I am going to concede to them. Obviously if they consult many Doctors, there will be some that disagree. But I would like to think that Peyton is going to make the right decision.[/QUOTE] The Drs may rule against it and Peyton may decide to go AMA -against medical advice. Many who have this procedure are never fully allowed back to normal activities. Playing in the NFL is not a normal activity. Just sayin...

03-03-2012, 10:34 AM	#27
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03-03-2012, 10:38 AM	#28
GMCJETS Been there done that. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,658	Hes 36 years old and will demand money we cannot afford. I dont see the NYJETS persuing Peyton Manning.

03-03-2012, 10:47 AM	#29
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,210	[QUOTE=Untouchable;4382678]Arm strength doesn't seem to be an issue. If Manning's health checks out we'd be stupid not to make a serious play for him.[/QUOTE] Has this been confirmed. Is it really him? I am going to look at some videos of his mechanics to see if they match. My first impression is that Peyton always sprints to the mesh point, even when he is just practicing. Looked a little slow but obviously there are plenty of explanations for that. I did see his "happy feet" though.

03-03-2012, 11:11 AM	#30
Dimitri_0515 Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,182	GMC , when did you become the most realistic poster on this board. My God, everything you posted was a breath of fresh air.

03-03-2012, 12:29 PM	#31
Play2Win Act as if... Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Long Island Posts: 1,508	[QUOTE=revischrist;4382635]How many times has a hit forced him to miss a game? If he can throw like he normally can and we don't, at least, send out feelers we are morons. And I am a Sanchez apologist, I Defend the kid all the time, but Peyton Manning is an all time great.[/QUOTE] when did I ever say manning is not an all time great. if manning is signed then you have to cut Sanchez far cap relief. 2nd if manning gets hurt and yes I do consider risky, your season is done . which may not be a bad thing. Sanchez is gone and you get a high draft pick.

03-03-2012, 12:36 PM	#32
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,210	[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4382676]The Drs may rule against it and Peyton may decide to go AMA -against medical advice. Many who have this procedure are never fully allowed back to normal activities. Playing in the NFL is not a normal activity. Just sayin...[/QUOTE] I dont think Goodell would let that happen. I think Manning will have to be cleared. I think Goodell and the owners would even collude to prevent it from happening. The league could not afford for this to end badly and then have a leak that he went against doctors wishes. Everything will be on the up and up.

03-03-2012, 12:39 PM	#33
GMCJETS Been there done that. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,658	[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4382806]I dont think Goodell would let that happen. I think Manning will have to be cleared. I think Goodell and the owners would even collude to prevent it from happening. The league could not afford for this to end badly and then have a leak that he went against doctors wishes. Everything will be on the up and up.[/QUOTE] Goodell will do whatever he feels is best for the NFL its a business. I dont think there are any injury rules for anything but a concussion. Manning will find a Dr to clear him, watch and see.

03-03-2012, 12:43 PM	#34
Bocajetfan68 All League Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Boca Raton Fl. Posts: 2,560	[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4382813]Goodell will do whatever he feels is best for the NFL its a business. I dont think there are any injury rules for anything but a concussion. Manning will find a Dr to clear him, watch and see.[/QUOTE] Manning has bin cleared by Dr. to resume his rehab. So I don't think this is an issue.

03-03-2012, 12:46 PM	#35
GMCJETS Been there done that. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,658	[QUOTE=Bocajetfan68;4382822]Manning has bin cleared by Dr. to resume his rehab. So I don't think this is an issue.[/QUOTE] Rehab vs playing? I dont think hes been cleared to play. Link?

03-03-2012, 12:56 PM	#36
Bocajetfan68 All League Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Boca Raton Fl. Posts: 2,560	[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4382824]Rehab vs playing? I dont think hes been cleared to play. Link?[/QUOTE] No link, rehab is first step. Players have had the same prosedure and bin cleared to play in the past. If I recall Manning was in contact with a former Florida QB (forget his name) that had this procedure and continued playing.

03-03-2012, 12:56 PM	#37
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26,293	[QUOTE=Play2Win;4382798]when did I ever say manning is not an all time great. if manning is signed then you have to cut Sanchez far cap relief. 2nd if manning gets hurt and yes I do consider risky, your season is done . which may not be a bad thing. Sanchez is gone and you get a high draft pick.[/QUOTE] Not a bad thing? That sounds like a nightmare scenario

03-03-2012, 01:00 PM	#38
jetssjumets Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,993	[QUOTE=Buzzsaw;4382832]Not a bad thing? That sounds like a nightmare scenario[/QUOTE] +1000000000000000000000000000000000 Exactly. Then watch as Sanchez develops into an all pro with another team...just the Jets luck. :mad: This is a stupid idea.

03-03-2012, 01:12 PM	#39
GMCJETS Been there done that. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,658	[QUOTE=Bocajetfan68;4382831]No link, rehab is first step. Players have had the same prosedure and bin cleared to play in the past. If I recall Manning was in contact with a former Florida QB (forget his name) that had this procedure and continued playing.[/QUOTE] Each spinal injury and operation is different. As is the person who had it. Everyone heals differently. The NYJETS have alot of money invested in a young promising QB if he can return to 2009-2010 form. Manning will want more money than the NYJETS can afford. There are way too many other glaring needs on this team.

03-03-2012, 01:22 PM	#40
Bocajetfan68 All League Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Boca Raton Fl. Posts: 2,560	[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4382856]Each spinal injury and operation is different. As is the person who had it. Everyone heals differently. The NYJETS have alot of money invested in a young promising QB if he can return to 2009-2010 form. Manning will want more money than the NYJETS can afford. There are way too many other glaring needs on this team.[/QUOTE] As for Manning to the Jets it is a no brainer the answer is NO!!!!!!!!!!!! to that. As to if Manning will continue his playing day's it is YES!!!!!!!!!!. Phins are being called a front runner and this would be phoolish for him unless he is more about money.