The Ghosts of Drafts Past

Supeli Malamala · 04-22-2012, 10:16 PM

I am going to the draft on Friday, got a couple of gift VIP tickets. Its my first time at the event and I am very excited. I did a little research of the [B]Jets 2nd Round Draft History[/B] .... It is Brutal !!! Since 1995 ....

1995 – Matt O’Dwyer OG Northwestern ( Pick number 1 in second round)
1996 – Alex Van Dyke WR Nevada (Pick number 1 in second round)
1997 – Rick Terry DT North Carolina (Pick number 1 in second round)
1998 – Dorian Boose DE Washington ST
1999 – Randy Thomas OG Miss St
2000 - NONE
2001 – Lamont Jordan RB Maryland
2002 – Jon McGraw S K-State
2003 – Victor Hobson LB Michigan
2004 - NONE
2005 – Mike Nugent K Ohio St, Justin Miller CB/KR Clemson
2006 – Kellen Clemens QB Oregon
2007 – David Harris LB Jets
2008 - NONE
2009 - NONE
2010 – Vlad Ducasse OL UMASS
2011 - NONE

No long term investment in any player. I would say only Thomas, Jordan, Hobson, and Miller were worth the paper there name was written on....

johnnysd · 04-22-2012, 10:23 PM

David Harris was a very solid pick

10PennyToColes87 · 04-22-2012, 10:23 PM

[QUOTE=Supeli Malamala;4442365]I am going to the draft on Friday, got a couple of gift VIP tickets. Its my first time at the event and I am very excited. I did a little research of the [B]Jets 2nd Round Draft History[/B] .... It is Brutal !!! Since 1995 ....

1995 – Matt O’Dwyer OG Northwestern ( Pick number 1 in second round)
1996 – Alex Van Dyke WR Nevada (Pick number 1 in second round)
1997 – Rick Terry DT North Carolina (Pick number 1 in second round)
1998 – Dorian Boose DE Washington ST
1999 – Randy Thomas OG Miss St
2000 - NONE
2001 – Lamont Jordan RB Maryland
2002 – Jon McGraw S K-State
2003 – Victor Hobson LB Michigan
2004 - NONE
2005 – Mike Nugent K Ohio St, Justin Miller CB/KR Clemson
2006 – Kellen Clemens QB Oregon
2007 – David Harris LB Jets
2008 - NONE
2009 - NONE
2010 – Vlad Ducasse OL UMASS
2011 - NONE

No long term investment in any player. [B] I would say only Thomas, Jordan, Hobson, and Miller were worth the paper there name was written on....[/B][/QUOTE]

Harris, too :confused:

Batmans A Scientist · 04-22-2012, 10:23 PM

[QUOTE=Supeli Malamala;4442365]I am going to the draft on Friday, got a couple of gift VIP tickets. Its my first time at the event and I am very excited. I did a little research of the [B]Jets 2nd Round Draft History[/B] .... It is Brutal !!! Since 1995 ....

1995 – Matt O’Dwyer OG Northwestern ( Pick number 1 in second round)
1996 – Alex Van Dyke WR Nevada (Pick number 1 in second round)
1997 – Rick Terry DT North Carolina (Pick number 1 in second round)
1998 – Dorian Boose DE Washington ST
1999 – Randy Thomas OG Miss St
2000 - NONE
2001 – Lamont Jordan RB Maryland
2002 – Jon McGraw S K-State
2003 – Victor Hobson LB Michigan
2004 - NONE
2005 – Mike Nugent K Ohio St, Justin Miller CB/KR Clemson
2006 – Kellen Clemens QB Oregon
2007 – David Harris LB Jets
2008 - NONE
2009 - NONE
2010 – Vlad Ducasse OL UMASS
2011 - NONE

No long term investment in any player. I would say only Thomas, Jordan, Hobson, and Miller were worth the paper there name was written on....[/QUOTE]

Uh... David Harris?

Owen Reed · 04-22-2012, 10:23 PM

Like moths to a flame.

joe willie · 04-22-2012, 10:24 PM

Um....??? Harris ??? :)

iahawkeyejet · 04-22-2012, 10:29 PM

[QUOTE=Supeli Malamala;4442365]I am going to the draft on Friday, got a couple of gift VIP tickets. Its my first time at the event and I am very excited. I did a little research of the [B]Jets 2nd Round Draft History[/B] .... It is Brutal !!! Since 1995 ....

1995 – Matt O’Dwyer OG Northwestern ( Pick number 1 in second round)
1996 – Alex Van Dyke WR Nevada (Pick number 1 in second round)
1997 – Rick Terry DT North Carolina (Pick number 1 in second round)
1998 – Dorian Boose DE Washington ST
1999 – Randy Thomas OG Miss St
2000 - NONE
2001 – Lamont Jordan RB Maryland
2002 – Jon McGraw S K-State
2003 – Victor Hobson LB Michigan
2004 - NONE
2005 – Mike Nugent K Ohio St, Justin Miller CB/KR Clemson
2006 – Kellen Clemens QB Oregon
2007 – David Harris LB Jets
2008 - NONE
2009 - NONE
2010 – Vlad Ducasse OL UMASS
2011 - NONE

No long term investment in any player. I would say only Thomas, Jordan, Hobson, and Miller were worth the paper there name was written on....[/QUOTE]

Harris is the best of the bunch, but Jesus they whiffed on nearly every second round pick in the mid-late 90's.

Supeli Malamala · 04-22-2012, 10:32 PM

Too many Pilsners at the Biergarten !! YES ! Harris is the BEST ! ... APOLOGIES

Dreamers · 04-22-2012, 10:37 PM

Jordan wasn't bad either we just never needed him.

kennyo7 · 04-22-2012, 11:22 PM

Odwyer and Randy Thomas were both very good Guards. I wouldnt mind having guys like that on this team right now.

Woody56 · 04-22-2012, 11:25 PM

Thomas and Harris are the only gems.

JB1089 · 04-22-2012, 11:43 PM

I still can't believe we picked a kicker in the 2nd round.

A KICKER

BamaJets · 04-23-2012, 07:35 AM

Glad you stopped at 1995. Don't look any further back into the past. Though D Byrd in '89 was well on his way. And Gastineau in '79! But really, the Jets have been awful historically in Rd 2. Maybe that's why we have been trading that pick so often in recent years!

sg3 · 04-23-2012, 07:58 AM

the past is nice to look at but irrelevant

since 2006 the Jets have been one of the BEST teams in the NFL at handling the annual draft

Ferguson, Mangold, Revis, Harris, Sanchez, Greene, Keller, Slaussen, Wilson, McKnight, Connor, Wilkerson, Ellis, Powell, Kerley

sure, nobody is perfect and Gholston was a huge bust and Vlad might be a second one...

but overall, two hall of famers and multiple probowlers is a very good haul by NFL standards

JB1089 · 04-23-2012, 08:40 AM

[QUOTE=sg3;4442485]the past is nice to look at but irrelevant

since 2006 the Jets have been one of the BEST teams in the NFL at handling the annual draft

Ferguson, Mangold, Revis, Harris, [B]Sanchez[/B], [B]Greene[/B], Keller, [B]Slaussen[/B], [B]Wilson[/B], [B]McKnight[/B], [B]Connor[/B], Wilkerson, [B]Ellis[/B], [B]Powell[/B], [B]Kerley[/B]

sure, nobody is perfect and Gholston was a huge bust and Vlad might be a second one...

but overall, two hall of famers and multiple probowlers is a very good haul by NFL standards[/QUOTE]

Not sure what those guys are doing on the list. I didn't know you praise for selecting middling players. And I was being generous by not including Wilkerson, who had a very good rookie year, who needs to take a step forward this year before we can really call him a great pick.

PatsFanTX · 04-23-2012, 08:47 AM

[QUOTE=sg3;4442485]

since 2006 the Jets have been one of the [B][U]BEST teams in the NFL[/U][/B] at handling the annual draft

Ferguson, Mangold, Revis, Harris, Sanchez, Greene, Keller, Slaussen, Wilson, McKnight, Connor, Wilkerson, Ellis, Powell, Kerley

[/QUOTE]

That's too funny.

southparkcpa · 04-23-2012, 09:00 AM

[QUOTE=Supeli Malamala;4442365]I am going to the draft on Friday, got a couple of gift VIP tickets. Its my first time at the event and I am very excited. I did a little research of the [B]Jets 2nd Round Draft History[/B] .... It is Brutal !!! Since 1995 ....

1995 – Matt O’Dwyer OG Northwestern ( Pick number 1 in second round)
1996 – Alex Van Dyke WR Nevada (Pick number 1 in second round)
1997 – Rick Terry DT North Carolina (Pick number 1 in second round)
1998 – Dorian Boose DE Washington ST
1999 – Randy Thomas OG Miss St
2000 - NONE
2001 – Lamont Jordan RB Maryland
2002 – Jon McGraw S K-State
2003 – Victor Hobson LB Michigan
2004 - NONE
2005 – Mike Nugent K Ohio St, Justin Miller CB/KR Clemson
2006 – Kellen Clemens QB Oregon
2007 – David Harris LB Jets
2008 - NONE
2009 - NONE
2010 – Vlad Ducasse OL UMASS
2011 - NONE

No long term investment in any player. I would say only Thomas, Jordan, Hobson, and Miller were worth the paper there name was written on....[/QUOTE]

I thought I was alone on the island of VLAD IS A BUST.

Also, notice the lack of picks from 2008 forward..... current management trades picks like candy for older veterans.

Batmans A Scientist · 04-23-2012, 10:28 AM

[QUOTE=southparkcpa;4442516]I thought I was alone on the island of VLAD IS A BUST.

Also, notice the lack of picks from 2008 forward..... current management trades picks like candy for older veterans.[/QUOTE]

Veterans, once... Older? Not really

2008 - Jets trade up for Dustin Keller
2010 - Jets trade up for Mark Sanchez
2011 - Jets trade for Antonio Cromartie (Age 27)

In fact the other Jets recent trades for higher draft picks

Braylon Edwards (Age 26)
Santonio Holmes (Age 25)
Kris Jenkins (age 29) - Only exception.

sg3 · 04-23-2012, 10:32 AM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4442509]That's too funny.[/QUOTE]

could have been worse, Mike

they could have pissed away something like 60 picks since 2006 on Hall of Famer high rounders like Lawrence Maroney, Chad Jackson, Brandon Meriwether, Kareem Brown, Patrick Chung, Devin McCourty and Nate Solder

detjetsfan · 04-23-2012, 11:01 AM

[QUOTE=JB1089;4442435]I still can't believe we picked a kicker in the 2nd round.

A KICKER[/QUOTE]

The '05 draft has to go down as one of the biggest monuments to ineptitude. If it wasn't for Kerry Rhodes you can say the Jets would not have added one productive player as a result of that entire draft.

04-22-2012, 10:16 PM	#1
Supeli Malamala Waterboy Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 88	The Ghosts of Drafts Past I am going to the draft on Friday, got a couple of gift VIP tickets. Its my first time at the event and I am very excited. I did a little research of the [B]Jets 2nd Round Draft History[/B] .... It is Brutal !!! Since 1995 .... 1995 – Matt O’Dwyer OG Northwestern ( Pick number 1 in second round) 1996 – Alex Van Dyke WR Nevada (Pick number 1 in second round) 1997 – Rick Terry DT North Carolina (Pick number 1 in second round) 1998 – Dorian Boose DE Washington ST 1999 – Randy Thomas OG Miss St 2000 - NONE 2001 – Lamont Jordan RB Maryland 2002 – Jon McGraw S K-State 2003 – Victor Hobson LB Michigan 2004 - NONE 2005 – Mike Nugent K Ohio St, Justin Miller CB/KR Clemson 2006 – Kellen Clemens QB Oregon 2007 – David Harris LB Jets 2008 - NONE 2009 - NONE 2010 – Vlad Ducasse OL UMASS 2011 - NONE No long term investment in any player. I would say only Thomas, Jordan, Hobson, and Miller were worth the paper there name was written on....

04-22-2012, 10:23 PM	#2
johnnysd Founding Member of the Geno Bandwagon Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,140	David Harris was a very solid pick

04-22-2012, 10:23 PM	#3
10PennyToColes87 Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2005 Location: SoFla Posts: 15,374	[QUOTE=Supeli Malamala;4442365]I am going to the draft on Friday, got a couple of gift VIP tickets. Its my first time at the event and I am very excited. I did a little research of the [B]Jets 2nd Round Draft History[/B] .... It is Brutal !!! Since 1995 .... 1995 – Matt O’Dwyer OG Northwestern ( Pick number 1 in second round) 1996 – Alex Van Dyke WR Nevada (Pick number 1 in second round) 1997 – Rick Terry DT North Carolina (Pick number 1 in second round) 1998 – Dorian Boose DE Washington ST 1999 – Randy Thomas OG Miss St 2000 - NONE 2001 – Lamont Jordan RB Maryland 2002 – Jon McGraw S K-State 2003 – Victor Hobson LB Michigan 2004 - NONE 2005 – Mike Nugent K Ohio St, Justin Miller CB/KR Clemson 2006 – Kellen Clemens QB Oregon 2007 – David Harris LB Jets 2008 - NONE 2009 - NONE 2010 – Vlad Ducasse OL UMASS 2011 - NONE No long term investment in any player. [B] I would say only Thomas, Jordan, Hobson, and Miller were worth the paper there name was written on....[/B][/QUOTE] Harris, too :confused:

04-22-2012, 10:23 PM	#4
Batmans A Scientist Watching the American East Championship All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Manhattan, NY Posts: 8,510	[QUOTE=Supeli Malamala;4442365]I am going to the draft on Friday, got a couple of gift VIP tickets. Its my first time at the event and I am very excited. I did a little research of the [B]Jets 2nd Round Draft History[/B] .... It is Brutal !!! Since 1995 .... 1995 – Matt O’Dwyer OG Northwestern ( Pick number 1 in second round) 1996 – Alex Van Dyke WR Nevada (Pick number 1 in second round) 1997 – Rick Terry DT North Carolina (Pick number 1 in second round) 1998 – Dorian Boose DE Washington ST 1999 – Randy Thomas OG Miss St 2000 - NONE 2001 – Lamont Jordan RB Maryland 2002 – Jon McGraw S K-State 2003 – Victor Hobson LB Michigan 2004 - NONE 2005 – Mike Nugent K Ohio St, Justin Miller CB/KR Clemson 2006 – Kellen Clemens QB Oregon 2007 – David Harris LB Jets 2008 - NONE 2009 - NONE 2010 – Vlad Ducasse OL UMASS 2011 - NONE No long term investment in any player. I would say only Thomas, Jordan, Hobson, and Miller were worth the paper there name was written on....[/QUOTE] Uh... David Harris?

04-22-2012, 10:23 PM	#5
Owen Reed Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 671	Like moths to a flame.

04-22-2012, 10:24 PM	#6
joe willie Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,133	Um....??? Harris ??? :)

04-22-2012, 10:29 PM	#7
iahawkeyejet On Iowa All League Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,651	[QUOTE=Supeli Malamala;4442365]I am going to the draft on Friday, got a couple of gift VIP tickets. Its my first time at the event and I am very excited. I did a little research of the [B]Jets 2nd Round Draft History[/B] .... It is Brutal !!! Since 1995 .... 1995 – Matt O’Dwyer OG Northwestern ( Pick number 1 in second round) 1996 – Alex Van Dyke WR Nevada (Pick number 1 in second round) 1997 – Rick Terry DT North Carolina (Pick number 1 in second round) 1998 – Dorian Boose DE Washington ST 1999 – Randy Thomas OG Miss St 2000 - NONE 2001 – Lamont Jordan RB Maryland 2002 – Jon McGraw S K-State 2003 – Victor Hobson LB Michigan 2004 - NONE 2005 – Mike Nugent K Ohio St, Justin Miller CB/KR Clemson 2006 – Kellen Clemens QB Oregon 2007 – David Harris LB Jets 2008 - NONE 2009 - NONE 2010 – Vlad Ducasse OL UMASS 2011 - NONE No long term investment in any player. I would say only Thomas, Jordan, Hobson, and Miller were worth the paper there name was written on....[/QUOTE] Harris is the best of the bunch, but Jesus they whiffed on nearly every second round pick in the mid-late 90's.

04-22-2012, 10:32 PM	#8
Supeli Malamala Waterboy Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 88	Too many Pilsners at the Biergarten !! YES ! Harris is the BEST ! ... APOLOGIES

04-22-2012, 10:37 PM	#9
Dreamers The angry poster All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,396	Jordan wasn't bad either we just never needed him.

04-22-2012, 11:22 PM	#10
kennyo7 All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,402	Odwyer and Randy Thomas were both very good Guards. I wouldnt mind having guys like that on this team right now.

04-22-2012, 11:25 PM	#11
Woody56 Purifying myself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka All League Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island Posts: 3,067	Thomas and Harris are the only gems.

04-22-2012, 11:43 PM	#12
JB1089 Now is the time... All Pro Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5,710	I still can't believe we picked a kicker in the 2nd round. A KICKER

04-23-2012, 07:35 AM	#13
BamaJets Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,777	Glad you stopped at 1995. Don't look any further back into the past. Though D Byrd in '89 was well on his way. And Gastineau in '79! But really, the Jets have been awful historically in Rd 2. Maybe that's why we have been trading that pick so often in recent years!

04-23-2012, 07:58 AM	#14
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,369	the past is nice to look at but irrelevant since 2006 the Jets have been one of the BEST teams in the NFL at handling the annual draft Ferguson, Mangold, Revis, Harris, Sanchez, Greene, Keller, Slaussen, Wilson, McKnight, Connor, Wilkerson, Ellis, Powell, Kerley sure, nobody is perfect and Gholston was a huge bust and Vlad might be a second one... but overall, two hall of famers and multiple probowlers is a very good haul by NFL standards

04-23-2012, 08:40 AM	#15
JB1089 Now is the time... All Pro Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5,710	[QUOTE=sg3;4442485]the past is nice to look at but irrelevant since 2006 the Jets have been one of the BEST teams in the NFL at handling the annual draft Ferguson, Mangold, Revis, Harris, [B]Sanchez[/B], [B]Greene[/B], Keller, [B]Slaussen[/B], [B]Wilson[/B], [B]McKnight[/B], [B]Connor[/B], Wilkerson, [B]Ellis[/B], [B]Powell[/B], [B]Kerley[/B] sure, nobody is perfect and Gholston was a huge bust and Vlad might be a second one... but overall, two hall of famers and multiple probowlers is a very good haul by NFL standards[/QUOTE] Not sure what those guys are doing on the list. I didn't know you praise for selecting middling players. And I was being generous by not including Wilkerson, who had a very good rookie year, who needs to take a step forward this year before we can really call him a great pick.

04-23-2012, 08:47 AM	#16
PatsFanTX JI Resident Troll Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 52,068	[QUOTE=sg3;4442485] since 2006 the Jets have been one of the [B][U]BEST teams in the NFL[/U][/B] at handling the annual draft Ferguson, Mangold, Revis, Harris, Sanchez, Greene, Keller, Slaussen, Wilson, McKnight, Connor, Wilkerson, Ellis, Powell, Kerley [/QUOTE] That's too funny.

04-23-2012, 09:00 AM	#17
southparkcpa I see the 88 to 97 period all over again. Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NC Posts: 15,707	[QUOTE=Supeli Malamala;4442365]I am going to the draft on Friday, got a couple of gift VIP tickets. Its my first time at the event and I am very excited. I did a little research of the [B]Jets 2nd Round Draft History[/B] .... It is Brutal !!! Since 1995 .... 1995 – Matt O’Dwyer OG Northwestern ( Pick number 1 in second round) 1996 – Alex Van Dyke WR Nevada (Pick number 1 in second round) 1997 – Rick Terry DT North Carolina (Pick number 1 in second round) 1998 – Dorian Boose DE Washington ST 1999 – Randy Thomas OG Miss St 2000 - NONE 2001 – Lamont Jordan RB Maryland 2002 – Jon McGraw S K-State 2003 – Victor Hobson LB Michigan 2004 - NONE 2005 – Mike Nugent K Ohio St, Justin Miller CB/KR Clemson 2006 – Kellen Clemens QB Oregon 2007 – David Harris LB Jets 2008 - NONE 2009 - NONE 2010 – Vlad Ducasse OL UMASS 2011 - NONE No long term investment in any player. I would say only Thomas, Jordan, Hobson, and Miller were worth the paper there name was written on....[/QUOTE] I thought I was alone on the island of VLAD IS A BUST. Also, notice the lack of picks from 2008 forward..... current management trades picks like candy for older veterans.

04-23-2012, 10:28 AM	#18
Batmans A Scientist Watching the American East Championship All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Manhattan, NY Posts: 8,510	[QUOTE=southparkcpa;4442516]I thought I was alone on the island of VLAD IS A BUST. Also, notice the lack of picks from 2008 forward..... current management trades picks like candy for older veterans.[/QUOTE] Veterans, once... Older? Not really 2008 - Jets trade up for Dustin Keller 2010 - Jets trade up for Mark Sanchez 2011 - Jets trade for Antonio Cromartie (Age 27) In fact the other Jets recent trades for higher draft picks Braylon Edwards (Age 26) Santonio Holmes (Age 25) Kris Jenkins (age 29) - Only exception.

04-23-2012, 10:32 AM	#19
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,369	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4442509]That's too funny.[/QUOTE] could have been worse, Mike they could have pissed away something like 60 picks since 2006 on Hall of Famer high rounders like Lawrence Maroney, Chad Jackson, Brandon Meriwether, Kareem Brown, Patrick Chung, Devin McCourty and Nate Solder

04-23-2012, 11:01 AM	#20
detjetsfan Supports Coach Ryan All League Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4,006	[QUOTE=JB1089;4442435]I still can't believe we picked a kicker in the 2nd round. A KICKER[/QUOTE] The '05 draft has to go down as one of the biggest monuments to ineptitude. If it wasn't for Kerry Rhodes you can say the Jets would not have added one productive player as a result of that entire draft.