Rumor: Jets trying to trade up in 2nd round for Stephen Hill - Page 2

51JetsFanInPA · 04-27-2012, 12:10 PM

I thought we desperately need a pass rusher?

PMarsico9 · 04-27-2012, 12:11 PM

Right tackle or GTFO.

PMarsico9 · 04-27-2012, 12:11 PM

[QUOTE=51JetsFanInPA;4449847]I thought we desperately need a pass rusher?[/QUOTE]

Did you watch the first round?

John_0515 · 04-27-2012, 12:13 PM

[QUOTE=51JetsFanInPA;4449847]I thought we desperately need a pass rusher?[/QUOTE]

Is this a joke? If the guy plays like he can, we drafted the next Jevon Kearse.

PMarsico9 · 04-27-2012, 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=John_0515;4449857]Is this a joke? If the guy plays like he can, we drafted the next Jevon Kearse.[/QUOTE]

Aim higher:

We drafted diet Julius Peppers.

Peebag · 04-27-2012, 12:15 PM

[QUOTE=PMarsico9;4449860]Aim higher:

We drafted diet Julius Peppers.[/QUOTE]

....;)

nycuse · 04-27-2012, 12:19 PM

[QUOTE=shuler82;4449769]Long time member here, and not one to usually start these type of threads.. but ...

I have some inside information that the Jets are "aggressively" trying to trade up in round 2 to grab Stephen Hill.

This same source correctly told me that the Jets were drafting Coples if he was there at #16 for them last night.[/QUOTE]

I wouldnt mind this if....

We sit tight and take either an OLB or RT with our current pick and then package something like our 3rd and a 6th to come back into the second round to take a WR like Hill or Jeffery.

Beerfish · 04-27-2012, 12:21 PM

[QUOTE=PMarsico9;4449852]Did you watch the first round?[/QUOTE]

Rex says he is going to be a DE, hand in the ground, DE ala wilkerson. Not an olb. Most 3-4's generate pass rush from OLB's. The guys question was legit because although coples is looked at as a pass rusher if he plays DE in the 3-4 he has to be a lot more disciplined and won't be given as much out right freedom to get after the QB.

Eckesg1 · 04-27-2012, 12:22 PM

[QUOTE=51JetsFanInPA;4449847]I thought we desperately need a pass rusher?[/QUOTE]

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AzJetFan · 04-27-2012, 12:24 PM

[QUOTE=John_0515;4449782]For real, because Sanchez can't run for his life all season again with Mario Williams lining up against Wayne Hunter....or Vlad Ducasse.[/QUOTE]

Sanchez and Tebow will split the running for their life plays so it will not be that bad.:D

MadCroatian · 04-27-2012, 12:26 PM

[QUOTE=chiefst2000;4449791]I hope not! There are 1st round talents available. Hill isnt one of them[/QUOTE]

[URL]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/tracker/best_available/index.html[/URL]

Piper · 04-27-2012, 12:26 PM

[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4449795]Thank You.

Not for nothing but that would be two very risky picks with the first two picks. AND I LOVE HILL. But still, come on we need OL. Going into camp with Hunter and Ducasse as your RT and first backup is gross negligence.

[/QUOTE]

This + alot:yes:

Kotch · 04-27-2012, 12:33 PM

Hill and Kendall Wright are the 2 most overrated WR prospects in the draft.

Hill is huge and fast, but was the only deep threat by design in that GT offense. Nobody has any idea of how he'll fare when he's asked to run precise routes against defenses that aren't pre-occupied with the option. There are better picks.

chiefst2000 · 04-27-2012, 12:35 PM

[QUOTE=Scoop24;4449819]What??? Everybody had this guy in the 1st in every single Mock.[/QUOTE]

The guy can't run routes. He also dropped a bunch of passes this year. He is an athletic freak project can't run routes and can't catch. Other then that he is awesome. We can't afford to take a WR on a 3 year project. Remember Dukasse? Cordy Glen is available and is a beast on the O-line.

Dcat · 04-27-2012, 12:43 PM

look, I would love to roll the dice on Hill, but I'm not giving up my 3rd rounder to do so. If he survives to 47, then fine (he won't), but he is NOT worth the risk of both our 2nd and 3rd round picks. No f-ing way. I will be pissed beyond imagination if they do this.

NPTJET53 · 04-27-2012, 12:49 PM

[QUOTE=PMarsico9;4449843]If you pay heed to Mock drafts, I got a really awesome car you may be interested in:

It's a brand new Chevy Vega. It's going to redefine the American Automobile.[/QUOTE]

Is that a Chevy that takes you to Vegas on 1/3 less gas?

PMarsico9 · 04-27-2012, 12:52 PM

[QUOTE=Beerfish;4449882]Rex says he is going to be a DE, hand in the ground, DE ala wilkerson. Not an olb. Most 3-4's generate pass rush from OLB's. The guys question was legit because although coples is looked at as a pass rusher if he plays DE in the 3-4 he has to be a lot more disciplined and won't be given as much out right freedom to get after the QB.[/QUOTE]

Last I checked while the base package is a 3-4, there's a lot of time where you don't know what the hell is going on with what Rex is throwing at you or the formation at the snap.

Suddenly the DT's are flying in from the secondary and stuff......I love watching Rex's defense. It's the most entertaining thing about the Jets.

PMarsico9 · 04-27-2012, 12:53 PM

[QUOTE=NPTJET53;4449960]Is that a Chevy that takes you to Vegas on 1/3 less gas?[/QUOTE]

LOL.

Yeah, hopefully you don't mind being covered in 3rd degree burns due to the car exploding as soon as you took it off the lot.

Scoop24 · 04-27-2012, 01:09 PM

You go with the best player available bottom line.

Every one claimed Maclin and Desean Jackson couldn't run routes when the came ether.. And would need time how did that work out for the eagles?

chops44 · 04-27-2012, 01:14 PM

[QUOTE=Kotch;4449917]Hill and Kendall Wright are the 2 most overrated WR prospects in the draft.

Hill is huge and fast, but was the only deep threat by design in that GT offense. Nobody has any idea of how he'll fare when he's asked to run precise routes against defenses that aren't pre-occupied with the option. There are better picks.[/QUOTE]

Some would argue that he's perfect for this team.
Put him in the wildcat packages and let him run around like at GT until he can develop into a complete player.

04-27-2012, 12:10 PM	#21
51JetsFanInPA I BELIEVE! Veteran Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 301	I thought we desperately need a pass rusher?

04-27-2012, 12:11 PM	#22
PMarsico9 This pit has no bottom All League Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,853	Right tackle or GTFO.

04-27-2012, 12:13 PM	#24
John_0515 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 21,219	[QUOTE=51JetsFanInPA;4449847]I thought we desperately need a pass rusher?[/QUOTE] Is this a joke? If the guy plays like he can, we drafted the next Jevon Kearse.

04-27-2012, 12:14 PM	#25
PMarsico9 This pit has no bottom All League Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,853	[QUOTE=John_0515;4449857]Is this a joke? If the guy plays like he can, we drafted the next Jevon Kearse.[/QUOTE] Aim higher: We drafted diet Julius Peppers.

04-27-2012, 12:15 PM	#26
Peebag ga;sdl;fja;;sdfj All Pro Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: great midwest -well not so great Posts: 7,185	[QUOTE=PMarsico9;4449860]Aim higher: We drafted diet Julius Peppers.[/QUOTE] ....;)

04-27-2012, 12:19 PM	#27
nycuse Veteran Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,292	[QUOTE=shuler82;4449769]Long time member here, and not one to usually start these type of threads.. but ... I have some inside information that the Jets are "aggressively" trying to trade up in round 2 to grab Stephen Hill. This same source correctly told me that the Jets were drafting Coples if he was there at #16 for them last night.[/QUOTE] I wouldnt mind this if.... We sit tight and take either an OLB or RT with our current pick and then package something like our 3rd and a 6th to come back into the second round to take a WR like Hill or Jeffery.

04-27-2012, 12:21 PM	#28
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,116	[QUOTE=PMarsico9;4449852]Did you watch the first round?[/QUOTE] Rex says he is going to be a DE, hand in the ground, DE ala wilkerson. Not an olb. Most 3-4's generate pass rush from OLB's. The guys question was legit because although coples is looked at as a pass rusher if he plays DE in the 3-4 he has to be a lot more disciplined and won't be given as much out right freedom to get after the QB.

04-27-2012, 12:22 PM	#29
Eckesg1 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,368	[QUOTE=51JetsFanInPA;4449847]I thought we desperately need a pass rusher?[/QUOTE] FACEPALM

04-27-2012, 12:24 PM	#30
AzJetFan Rookie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 580	[QUOTE=John_0515;4449782]For real, because Sanchez can't run for his life all season again with Mario Williams lining up against Wayne Hunter....or Vlad Ducasse.[/QUOTE] Sanchez and Tebow will split the running for their life plays so it will not be that bad.:D

04-27-2012, 12:26 PM	#31
MadCroatian Dollar goes in... Soda comes out.... ALIENS! Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 603	[QUOTE=chiefst2000;4449791]I hope not! There are 1st round talents available. Hill isnt one of them[/QUOTE] [URL]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/tracker/best_available/index.html[/URL]

04-27-2012, 12:26 PM	#32
Piper Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: L.I. NY (where the Jets used to be from) Posts: 13,197	[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4449795]Thank You. Not for nothing but that would be two very risky picks with the first two picks. AND I LOVE HILL. But still, come on we need OL. Going into camp with Hunter and Ducasse as your RT and first backup is gross negligence. [/QUOTE] This + alot:yes:

04-27-2012, 12:33 PM	#33
Kotch Veteran Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,899	Hill and Kendall Wright are the 2 most overrated WR prospects in the draft. Hill is huge and fast, but was the only deep threat by design in that GT offense. Nobody has any idea of how he'll fare when he's asked to run precise routes against defenses that aren't pre-occupied with the option. There are better picks.

04-27-2012, 12:35 PM	#34
chiefst2000 Champion of Common Sense All Pro Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,891	[QUOTE=Scoop24;4449819]What??? Everybody had this guy in the 1st in every single Mock.[/QUOTE] The guy can't run routes. He also dropped a bunch of passes this year. He is an athletic freak project can't run routes and can't catch. Other then that he is awesome. We can't afford to take a WR on a 3 year project. Remember Dukasse? Cordy Glen is available and is a beast on the O-line.

04-27-2012, 12:43 PM	#35
Dcat Out here we is stoned immaculate Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 8,184	look, I would love to roll the dice on Hill, but I'm not giving up my 3rd rounder to do so. If he survives to 47, then fine (he won't), but he is NOT worth the risk of both our 2nd and 3rd round picks. No f-ing way. I will be pissed beyond imagination if they do this.

04-27-2012, 12:49 PM	#36
NPTJET53 God hates Jets fans Practice Squad Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 432	[QUOTE=PMarsico9;4449843]If you pay heed to Mock drafts, I got a really awesome car you may be interested in: It's a brand new Chevy Vega. It's going to redefine the American Automobile.[/QUOTE] Is that a Chevy that takes you to Vegas on 1/3 less gas?

04-27-2012, 12:52 PM	#37
PMarsico9 This pit has no bottom All League Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,853	[QUOTE=Beerfish;4449882]Rex says he is going to be a DE, hand in the ground, DE ala wilkerson. Not an olb. Most 3-4's generate pass rush from OLB's. The guys question was legit because although coples is looked at as a pass rusher if he plays DE in the 3-4 he has to be a lot more disciplined and won't be given as much out right freedom to get after the QB.[/QUOTE] Last I checked while the base package is a 3-4, there's a lot of time where you don't know what the hell is going on with what Rex is throwing at you or the formation at the snap. Suddenly the DT's are flying in from the secondary and stuff......I love watching Rex's defense. It's the most entertaining thing about the Jets.

04-27-2012, 12:53 PM	#38
PMarsico9 This pit has no bottom All League Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,853	[QUOTE=NPTJET53;4449960]Is that a Chevy that takes you to Vegas on 1/3 less gas?[/QUOTE] LOL. Yeah, hopefully you don't mind being covered in 3rd degree burns due to the car exploding as soon as you took it off the lot.

04-27-2012, 01:09 PM	#39
Scoop24 Up in the clouds somewhere All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: brooklyn,NY Posts: 4,690	You go with the best player available bottom line. Every one claimed Maclin and Desean Jackson couldn't run routes when the came ether.. And would need time how did that work out for the eagles?

04-27-2012, 01:14 PM	#40
chops44 Po'g mo tho'in! Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Johnsburg Posts: 1,300	[QUOTE=Kotch;4449917]Hill and Kendall Wright are the 2 most overrated WR prospects in the draft. Hill is huge and fast, but was the only deep threat by design in that GT offense. Nobody has any idea of how he'll fare when he's asked to run precise routes against defenses that aren't pre-occupied with the option. There are better picks.[/QUOTE] Some would argue that he's perfect for this team. Put him in the wildcat packages and let him run around like at GT until he can develop into a complete player.