This organization hates OLB's

jamesangleton · 04-27-2012, 09:13 PM

I don't get it. We have been a 3-4 team since Mangini now a 3-4 hybrid with Ryan. I thought that OLB was a premium position in this system. Every year we all say "this is it" and we are convinced we will get a blue chip pass rusher but we never do. This was supposed to be the year instead we draft a 5 tech. DE. The Giants draft stud pass rushers almost every year. We try and get cute with the Jamaal Westerman, Ricky Sapps of the world. Next year's OLB sack production will be about 9 sacks..Maybin will get 8 of those..

Dunnie · 04-27-2012, 09:14 PM

[QUOTE=jamesangleton;4451202]I don't get it. We have been a 3-4 team since Mangini now a 3-4 hybrid with Ryan. I thought that OLB was a premium position in this system. Every year we all say "this is it" and we are convinced we will get a blue chip pass rusher but we never do. This was supposed to be the year instead we draft a 5 tech. DE. The Giants draft stud pass rushers almost every year. We try and get cute with the Jamaal Westerman, Ricky Sapps of the world. Next year's OLB sack production will be about 9 sacks..Maybin will get 8 of those..[/QUOTE]

DL sacks will be huge.

Untouchable · 04-27-2012, 09:15 PM

Build a badass DL and you don't need a stud OLB.

jamesangleton · 04-27-2012, 09:17 PM

[QUOTE=Untouchable;4451206]Build a badass DL and you don't need a stud OLB.[/QUOTE]

Do you think Coples will make that much of a difference? I hope so. Maybe they feel confident about Maybin but I cant believe Bryan Thomas is still here

Untouchable · 04-27-2012, 09:20 PM

[QUOTE=jamesangleton;4451210]Do you think Coples will make that much of a difference? I hope so. Maybe they feel confident about Maybin but I cant believe Bryan Thomas is still here[/QUOTE]

If he fulfills his potential, hell yes.

Coples and Hill are both risky picks, but their upsides are out of this world.

I love it.

You can't just go with the safe pick all the time. The guy with a solid floor but a very low ceiling.

Go big or go home.

Funaz · 04-27-2012, 09:20 PM

[QUOTE=Untouchable;4451214]If he fulfills his potential, hell yes.

Coples and Hill are both risky picks, but their upsides are out of this world.

I love it.

You can't just go with the safe pick all the time. The guy with a solid floor but a very low ceiling.

Go big or go home.[/QUOTE]

Gotta remember they are rookies. Don't expect too much from either.

Untouchable · 04-27-2012, 09:22 PM

[QUOTE=Funaz;4451218]Gotta remember they are rookies. Don't expect too much from either.[/QUOTE]

Neither will most likely blow us away right out of the gate.

But they will definitely contribute in year one.

Beerfish · 04-27-2012, 09:26 PM

I don't mind our picks this year but I do agree with jamesangleton 100%. You get most of your sacks from 4-3 DE's or rush olbs.

LesterLyles · 04-27-2012, 09:34 PM

We used the 6th overall pick in 08 on one. I don't think they could use another first round pick on one in 09 or 10. I guess you could have argued it last year but de was a bigger need. Now with the emergence of Maybin, I don't think it was needed this year.

eastsidejetsfan · 04-27-2012, 09:36 PM

Maybe they just draft the best available player. I will reserve judgement on Coples to see how he develops but the upside is huge. I also think from the more a read the more I feel the drop in production might have been because of the circumstances around him at NC his senior year.

SafetyBlitz · 04-27-2012, 09:44 PM

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Untouchable · 04-27-2012, 09:46 PM

[QUOTE=SafetyBlitz;4451321][IMG]http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/rendered/blog/wysiwyg/Ronnell-Lewis.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Hmmmm

Forgot Lewis was still on the board.

Massie or Lewis

04-27-2012, 09:13 PM	#1
jamesangleton Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 475	This organization hates OLB's I don't get it. We have been a 3-4 team since Mangini now a 3-4 hybrid with Ryan. I thought that OLB was a premium position in this system. Every year we all say "this is it" and we are convinced we will get a blue chip pass rusher but we never do. This was supposed to be the year instead we draft a 5 tech. DE. The Giants draft stud pass rushers almost every year. We try and get cute with the Jamaal Westerman, Ricky Sapps of the world. Next year's OLB sack production will be about 9 sacks..Maybin will get 8 of those..

04-27-2012, 09:14 PM	#2
Dunnie still waiting ... All League Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,180	[QUOTE=jamesangleton;4451202]I don't get it. We have been a 3-4 team since Mangini now a 3-4 hybrid with Ryan. I thought that OLB was a premium position in this system. Every year we all say "this is it" and we are convinced we will get a blue chip pass rusher but we never do. This was supposed to be the year instead we draft a 5 tech. DE. The Giants draft stud pass rushers almost every year. We try and get cute with the Jamaal Westerman, Ricky Sapps of the world. Next year's OLB sack production will be about 9 sacks..Maybin will get 8 of those..[/QUOTE] DL sacks will be huge.

04-27-2012, 09:15 PM	#3
Untouchable Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22,403	Build a badass DL and you don't need a stud OLB.

04-27-2012, 09:17 PM	#4
jamesangleton Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 475	[QUOTE=Untouchable;4451206]Build a badass DL and you don't need a stud OLB.[/QUOTE] Do you think Coples will make that much of a difference? I hope so. Maybe they feel confident about Maybin but I cant believe Bryan Thomas is still here

04-27-2012, 09:20 PM	#5
Untouchable Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22,403	[QUOTE=jamesangleton;4451210]Do you think Coples will make that much of a difference? I hope so. Maybe they feel confident about Maybin but I cant believe Bryan Thomas is still here[/QUOTE] If he fulfills his potential, hell yes. Coples and Hill are both risky picks, but their upsides are out of this world. I love it. You can't just go with the safe pick all the time. The guy with a solid floor but a very low ceiling. Go big or go home.

04-27-2012, 09:20 PM	#6
Funaz Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,404	[QUOTE=Untouchable;4451214]If he fulfills his potential, hell yes. Coples and Hill are both risky picks, but their upsides are out of this world. I love it. You can't just go with the safe pick all the time. The guy with a solid floor but a very low ceiling. Go big or go home.[/QUOTE] Gotta remember they are rookies. Don't expect too much from either.

04-27-2012, 09:22 PM	#7
Untouchable Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22,403	[QUOTE=Funaz;4451218]Gotta remember they are rookies. Don't expect too much from either.[/QUOTE] Neither will most likely blow us away right out of the gate. But they will definitely contribute in year one.

04-27-2012, 09:26 PM	#8
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,066	I don't mind our picks this year but I do agree with jamesangleton 100%. You get most of your sacks from 4-3 DE's or rush olbs.

04-27-2012, 09:34 PM	#9
LesterLyles All Pro Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 5,092	We used the 6th overall pick in 08 on one. I don't think they could use another first round pick on one in 09 or 10. I guess you could have argued it last year but de was a bigger need. Now with the emergence of Maybin, I don't think it was needed this year.

04-27-2012, 09:36 PM	#10
eastsidejetsfan Rookie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 606	Maybe they just draft the best available player. I will reserve judgement on Coples to see how he develops but the upside is huge. I also think from the more a read the more I feel the drop in production might have been because of the circumstances around him at NC his senior year.

04-27-2012, 09:44 PM	#11
SafetyBlitz Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,997	[IMG]http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/rendered/blog/wysiwyg/Ronnell-Lewis.jpg[/IMG]

04-27-2012, 09:46 PM	#12
Untouchable Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22,403	[QUOTE=SafetyBlitz;4451321][IMG]http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/rendered/blog/wysiwyg/Ronnell-Lewis.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Hmmmm Forgot Lewis was still on the board. Massie or Lewis