Gun Carrying Man Ends Stabbing Spree - Page 3

Winstonbiggs · 04-30-2012, 01:12 PM

[QUOTE=dickkotite;4454853]ahhhhh straw purchases.

ok so a person legally able to buy a gun buys one from a dealer. legal.

then, that person does something illegal after he leaves the shop.

a problem? yes.

but what did the dealers do wrong?[/QUOTE]

If they're able to trace back a huge number of the guns used in crimes to a relatively small percentage of the dealers, the dealers should be shut down.

dickkotite · 04-30-2012, 01:23 PM

hmmmmmmmm. maybe. if it is super clear they are involved in constant questionable trades and in fact in "cohoots" with the straw guy

i dunno id have to hear all the evidence

Austin · 04-30-2012, 01:30 PM

[QUOTE=dickkotite;4454743][B]fair, but the right to bear arms was included so that people could defeat their own military should govt decide to turn against them. thats all pretty clear in the federalist papers. so really, asking for a ak with a 30 round clip is not asking too much imo.[/B]
besides there are tens of thousands of these out there. maybe more. there is no gun problem in this country. in some areas? yea, but that is unavoidable. in 95% of the rest of the nation? nobody lives in daily fear of being shot. if they did, i would agree with you and look for a solution[/QUOTE]

You're right. We wouldn't want radical right wing terrorists to be at a disadvantage when they're waging ware against the government.

dickkotite · 04-30-2012, 01:31 PM

[QUOTE=Austin;4454890]You're right. We wouldn't want radical right wing terrorists to be at a disadvantage when they're waging ware against the government.[/QUOTE]

or radical leftists.....lets not forget them

DeanPatsFan · 04-30-2012, 01:36 PM

[QUOTE=dickkotite;4454853]ahhhhh straw purchases.

ok so a person legally able to buy a gun buys one from a dealer. legal.

then, that person does something illegal after he leaves the shop.

a problem? yes.

[b]but what did the dealers do wrong?[/b][/QUOTE]

Nothing... no more more than the store owner who legally sells a six pack to an of age adult who turns around and sells it to a minor...

Austin · 04-30-2012, 01:36 PM

[QUOTE=dickkotite;4454895]or radical leftists.....lets not forget them[/QUOTE]

Eh, the far left would rather occupy things.

But seriously, you're basically advocating that the Timothy McVeighs of the world should have the right to own the same guns as the military because it wouldn't be fair to their terrorist attacks/rebellion if they were outgunned?

DeanPatsFan · 04-30-2012, 01:38 PM

[QUOTE=Austin;4454910]Eh, the far left would rather occupy things.

[/QUOTE]

Bill Ayers says hi....

dickkotite · 04-30-2012, 01:39 PM

[QUOTE=Austin;4454910]Eh, the far left would rather occupy things.

But seriously, you're basically advocating that the Timothy McVeighs of the world should have the right to own the same guns as the military because it wouldn't be fair to their terrorist attacks/rebellion if they were outgunned?[/QUOTE]

small arms is about the least you can give and thats about all you can get.

you cant punish everyone because of a few bad apples. tim never used a gun anyway

cr726 · 04-30-2012, 02:04 PM

[QUOTE=DeanPatsFan;4454906]Nothing... no more more than the store owner who legally sells a six pack to an of age adult who turns around and sells it to a minor...[/QUOTE]

Unless there is a pattern.

PatriotReign · 04-30-2012, 05:24 PM

[QUOTE=cr726;4454945]Unless there is a pattern.[/QUOTE]

Your argument should be geared toward stricter license requirements for dealers and buyers. I think the gun dealer/purchase laws in the southern states are rather lax but the only pattern they have to worry about is complying with the laws in their respective state. You can't go after them if the gun eventually ends up in a criminal's hand at some point if they complied with said state law in the sale.

dickkotite · 04-30-2012, 05:43 PM

[QUOTE=PatriotReign;4455158]Your argument should be geared toward stricter license requirements for dealers and buyers. I think the gun dealer/purchase laws in the southern states are rather lax but the only pattern they have to worry about is complying with the laws in their respective state. You can't go after them if the gun eventually ends up in a criminal's hand at some point if they complied with said state law in the sale.[/QUOTE]

a private citizen can sell a pistol to anybody.

i had a piece i didnt really care for. put it on CL and this biker gave me cash. no questions asked

so if any of you get shot with a star BM 9mm, dont come a bittchin

gunnails · 04-30-2012, 06:14 PM

[QUOTE=dickkotite;4455187][B]a private citizen can sell a pistol to anybody.[/B]

i had a piece i didnt really care for. put it on CL and this biker gave me cash. no questions asked

so if any of you get shot with a star BM 9mm, dont come a bittchin[/QUOTE]

===================================================

True only to an extant. It is a federal crime to sell to some one you believe is a felon, crazy, not a resident of you're state. not a US citizen. The purchaser must also be 21 years of age if you are selling a hand gun, or 18 for shotguns and rifles.

Craigslist policy prohibits selling firearms, and PayPal prohibits transactions for firearms, not saying it doesn't some times happen.

Seems there is something about sellin to people with restraining orders also.

PlumberKhan · 04-30-2012, 08:44 PM

[QUOTE=gunnails;4455227]Craigslist policy prohibits selling firearms...[/QUOTE]

Sold a Mossberg 500 and a .30-06 on CL last month....

gunnails · 04-30-2012, 08:46 PM

[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4455382]Sold a Mossberg 500 and a .30-06 on CL last month....[/QUOTE]

==================================================
That's great, But I do know most firearm adds get flagged. I'm all for buying and selling guns on CL.

PlumberKhan · 04-30-2012, 08:51 PM

[QUOTE=gunnails;4455386]==================================================
That's great, But I do know most firearm adds get flagged. I'm all for buying and selling guns on CL.[/QUOTE]

Ahh...

I see what you're getting at.

I listed mine in "sports"....

Gotta be clever :)

dickkotite · 04-30-2012, 09:04 PM

you have to list it in code so only those who know will read like: home protection or 1911 or s&w or fourty five

then it stays up for a while

well, for good measure i did take the guys license plate down and put that info in my gun safe just in case

04-30-2012, 01:12 PM	#41
Winstonbiggs Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,923	[QUOTE=dickkotite;4454853]ahhhhh straw purchases. ok so a person legally able to buy a gun buys one from a dealer. legal. then, that person does something illegal after he leaves the shop. a problem? yes. but what did the dealers do wrong?[/QUOTE] If they're able to trace back a huge number of the guns used in crimes to a relatively small percentage of the dealers, the dealers should be shut down.

04-30-2012, 01:23 PM	#42
dickkotite SAR1 is my son..... All Pro Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 8,330	hmmmmmmmm. maybe. if it is super clear they are involved in constant questionable trades and in fact in "cohoots" with the straw guy i dunno id have to hear all the evidence

04-30-2012, 01:30 PM	#43
Austin WINNING All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Upper East Side Posts: 6,186	[QUOTE=dickkotite;4454743][B]fair, but the right to bear arms was included so that people could defeat their own military should govt decide to turn against them. thats all pretty clear in the federalist papers. so really, asking for a ak with a 30 round clip is not asking too much imo.[/B] besides there are tens of thousands of these out there. maybe more. there is no gun problem in this country. in some areas? yea, but that is unavoidable. in 95% of the rest of the nation? nobody lives in daily fear of being shot. if they did, i would agree with you and look for a solution[/QUOTE] You're right. We wouldn't want radical right wing terrorists to be at a disadvantage when they're waging ware against the government.

04-30-2012, 01:31 PM	#44
dickkotite SAR1 is my son..... All Pro Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 8,330	[QUOTE=Austin;4454890]You're right. We wouldn't want radical right wing terrorists to be at a disadvantage when they're waging ware against the government.[/QUOTE] or radical leftists.....lets not forget them

04-30-2012, 01:36 PM	#45
DeanPatsFan Lib Free Or Die..... All Pro Annoying Chowd Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,123	[QUOTE=dickkotite;4454853]ahhhhh straw purchases. ok so a person legally able to buy a gun buys one from a dealer. legal. then, that person does something illegal after he leaves the shop. a problem? yes. [b]but what did the dealers do wrong?[/b][/QUOTE] Nothing... no more more than the store owner who legally sells a six pack to an of age adult who turns around and sells it to a minor...

04-30-2012, 01:38 PM	#47
DeanPatsFan Lib Free Or Die..... All Pro Annoying Chowd Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,123	[QUOTE=Austin;4454910]Eh, the far left would rather occupy things. [/QUOTE] Bill Ayers says hi....

04-30-2012, 01:39 PM	#48
dickkotite SAR1 is my son..... All Pro Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 8,330	[QUOTE=Austin;4454910]Eh, the far left would rather occupy things. But seriously, you're basically advocating that the Timothy McVeighs of the world should have the right to own the same guns as the military because it wouldn't be fair to their terrorist attacks/rebellion if they were outgunned?[/QUOTE] small arms is about the least you can give and thats about all you can get. you cant punish everyone because of a few bad apples. tim never used a gun anyway

04-30-2012, 02:04 PM	#49
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,295	[QUOTE=DeanPatsFan;4454906]Nothing... no more more than the store owner who legally sells a six pack to an of age adult who turns around and sells it to a minor...[/QUOTE] Unless there is a pattern.

04-30-2012, 05:24 PM	#50
PatriotReign Asterisks of Excellence *** All League Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Boston area Posts: 4,353	[QUOTE=cr726;4454945]Unless there is a pattern.[/QUOTE] Your argument should be geared toward stricter license requirements for dealers and buyers. I think the gun dealer/purchase laws in the southern states are rather lax but the only pattern they have to worry about is complying with the laws in their respective state. You can't go after them if the gun eventually ends up in a criminal's hand at some point if they complied with said state law in the sale.

04-30-2012, 05:43 PM	#51
dickkotite SAR1 is my son..... All Pro Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 8,330	[QUOTE=PatriotReign;4455158]Your argument should be geared toward stricter license requirements for dealers and buyers. I think the gun dealer/purchase laws in the southern states are rather lax but the only pattern they have to worry about is complying with the laws in their respective state. You can't go after them if the gun eventually ends up in a criminal's hand at some point if they complied with said state law in the sale.[/QUOTE] a private citizen can sell a pistol to anybody. i had a piece i didnt really care for. put it on CL and this biker gave me cash. no questions asked so if any of you get shot with a star BM 9mm, dont come a bittchin

04-30-2012, 06:14 PM	#52
gunnails All League Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,516	[QUOTE=dickkotite;4455187][B]a private citizen can sell a pistol to anybody.[/B] i had a piece i didnt really care for. put it on CL and this biker gave me cash. no questions asked so if any of you get shot with a star BM 9mm, dont come a bittchin[/QUOTE] =================================================== True only to an extant. It is a federal crime to sell to some one you believe is a felon, crazy, not a resident of you're state. not a US citizen. The purchaser must also be 21 years of age if you are selling a hand gun, or 18 for shotguns and rifles. Craigslist policy prohibits selling firearms, and PayPal prohibits transactions for firearms, not saying it doesn't some times happen. Seems there is something about sellin to people with restraining orders also.

04-30-2012, 08:44 PM	#53
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,013	[QUOTE=gunnails;4455227]Craigslist policy prohibits selling firearms...[/QUOTE] Sold a Mossberg 500 and a .30-06 on CL last month....

04-30-2012, 08:46 PM	#54
gunnails All League Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,516	[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4455382]Sold a Mossberg 500 and a .30-06 on CL last month....[/QUOTE] ================================================== That's great, But I do know most firearm adds get flagged. I'm all for buying and selling guns on CL.

04-30-2012, 08:51 PM	#55
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,013	[QUOTE=gunnails;4455386]================================================== That's great, But I do know most firearm adds get flagged. I'm all for buying and selling guns on CL.[/QUOTE] Ahh... I see what you're getting at. I listed mine in "sports".... Gotta be clever :)

04-30-2012, 09:04 PM	#56
dickkotite SAR1 is my son..... All Pro Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 8,330	you have to list it in code so only those who know will read like: home protection or 1911 or s&w or fourty five then it stays up for a while well, for good measure i did take the guys license plate down and put that info in my gun safe just in case